Activision and Tencent have cooperation. Tencent also helped develop the COD mobile game. This is tacitly agreed. Activision also cooperates with this game.@@Shsj272
Kinda yes but kinda no. While gun movement itself is straight COD but slowed the arms/hands movement is not. Its very similar but looks like that part was made by DFHO team.
@@MaskAnimations Ofc its not okay. I think "tweaking" is not a good word there, guess they just had to re-do the arms anims. Ps. I love how they actually destroyed the revolver reloads... Like who tf did that...
Most likely, since this breaks the ToS regarding using COD's asset in other projects which basically states that it's no bueno if said project makes money (which I'm assuming this game is, idk much about this game) while it's perfectly okay to use it in projects that don't make money (Ports and other stuff) Edit: yeah I'm wrong, reply below me has a more accurate answer
WTH are you even talking about. Tencent contributed most of the weapon animation in COD 16, 19 and 20. Just because you don't know that it doesn't mean you can make false accusations.
@@o_Olwhat is bro yapping about?? did bro forgot hyper and his team animate all of the animations 😂😂😂😂😂 the cc tenclown only animate a few amount of shit. 😂😂😂😂 did bro also did not care about the asset rip holy shit 😂😂😂😂
For those curios at 0:38 the AK reload is using an aftermarket AK saftey called the KREBs enhanced AK safety (there's also a few others like it), it has a little cut out in it that can hold the charging handle back. I have one on an IRL build, to be honest while its a neat reload for a game I wouldn't wanna try it IRL cause it can be annoying to mess with and it makes the safety very stiff because of the spring tension form the bolt being back.
40$ for a piece of metal with a notch for safety that already in the gun itself. extra step for reduce the spring quality just to hold the bolt carrier.
I saw a comment that said this studio is the same studio that worked on CoD Mobile and they're using the animations as place holder for the beta while their animation team works on the actual animations. I hope that's the case because from what I can tell from the animations that arren't taken from MW they have good animators so I hope we'll be able to see more of their work in the full game.
@@RainFall800 what makes you think good animation can't be used as placeholders? Placeholder just means that it will be replaced in the future, the quality of what holds its place doesn't matter. I see it being absolutely plausible for them to use MW anims while original animations are being made.
@@mattc7420 They’re not the same animators. MW viewmodel animations were made for MW with Activision’s money by Activision employees, are you implying they bought assets online?
@@bigshobe If i dont remember pretty bad... This game is published by some company that works with CODM soooo in a bit of theory they used their assets
Some after market magazine can archive bolt lock feature, although it's only on the magazine, it can make the user use the safety to lock the bolt easier, which may give a purpose for it
You mean that there's finally no autism shake? I agree, even if these animations are copies, they made them look not as cringy shaken and I appreciate that
tencent has a stake in acti stock, and are responsible for CODM. Acti cant do shit even if they cared to do so, because if they do, tencent could easily kill off CODM which is their biggest COD when it comes to profit
Before people start freaking out, the developers of this Delta Force entry, are the same developers who did COD Mobile, and COD Mobile has almost all animations from Call of Duty MW2019. So yeah, that's why you see many of COD's animations in Delta Force, they're just re-using assets.
Except that COD Mobile directly ported most of the weapons all the way down to its anims, so they are all exactly the same as their respective origin games. In other words, DF "indirectly" copied COD anims.
the most creative thing they did was repurpose the mp7 reload into the uzi reload. some of them are definitely remakes but much more of them are genuinely just straight up ported animations. I hope they're placeholders.
Sad thing is that the ones that aren’t copies are actually good and interesting. Like someone in there does have talent but can’t show it because copying is easier or to trick people.
Its because this is Timi, the same people who made CoD Mobile lol Its not "Copied" its placeholder from animations they already have. In Alpha gameplay you can see they use different animations
@@totalguardian1436He always does that to mobile games because "PC or Console is better". I mean, it's kinda obvious but not mentioning the limitations of mobile devices. I saw his comments first-hand on Combat Master when it just released that time.
@@stealthkills "be grateful" is the most bot shit things I've seen on this platform 😂😂😂😂 how about no thanks, i ain't playing alme cheap chinese cod copy paste that borrowed the delta force ip 😂😂😂
@@rexconnorisacvck lmfao, after the constant rip offs and false promises that cod has delivered for the past 4 years you really think those sc*m deserves any respect or support from people like you? Truth be told, if this new Delta Force game can replace cod that will be great regardless of whether it came from China or not. If this game does turn out to be as good as MW19 I am all for it. If you want to constantly pay money and get ripped off for games like mw2 and mw3 which all s*ck a** compared to mw19 then go be that guy. Nothing but downgrades from those f*ckers.
Part of me wants to believe that the guns using MW:19/MWII animations are placeholders given how stylish and great the ones made from scratch are (the P90 oh mah...). So instead of half baking and making BOCW ass animations they used their convenient rights of using MW:19/MWII animations since they co-develop COD Mobile that ports those animations/guns which I just see as a dub. TIme will tell if they eventually replace all animations, if else at least its the best type of placeholder.
Hopefully the cod anims are just placeholders bc I remember seeing early alpha footage of this game and every gun used cod anims, now some of them have unique reloads
@@veekay_t Yeah in some of the early footage they used the same reload animations as COD, I noticed that the AKM used COD MW2 reload animations and now they changed it to this stylized version
They don’t have the rights to use Activison assets in any game they make just because they worked on CoD Mobile, these comments are so misinformed about how game ownership works.
I do not hope these animations are place holders. They're being used in good looking models now and looks so much better. I don't give a f if they're copying Activision, they have been copying MW19 for 4 years now and selling it but making it worse.
do you have desiese to not understand what you read? i said they're co-dev for CODM so which means they have acces to the animations, what you need to understand here is they're not accessing CODM animations, they have access to every animation that cod have okay?@@Kenny-hy5pj
People you think they just stole animations from call of duty, you're wrong, Operators from Delta Force: Hawk Ops they learned how to reload weapons on youtube by watching the channel "Fire Mountain" when he shows reload animations every season in Call of duty P.S.-Not the developer of Delta Force: Hawk Ops
Is this a satire post? I've seen similar ones but people were serious about it It's not about the reload techniques but the animation itself, which is 100% identical (slightly edited in some cases, but identical for the most part) You won't be able to make it identical unless you know how to copy it frame by frame, which would be harder to do than making your own from scratch
@@HeySlickThatsMe My God, dude, it's such a joke that the operators from game, not the developers, allegedly watched the reloads from Call of duty on youtube and therefore they do it identically. I'm jokingly kind of justifying the developers of Delta Force: Hawk Ops. And yes, they are goats that they just imported into their game
@@HeySlickThatsMemost probably Timi studio responsible for Codm could have licensed the Animation Of MW for both Codm and DF . Simple . PPL just don't get it
So what’s interesting is that the developers for Delta Force also created COD Mobile…do they have a partnership with Activision? Thought I would share that
@Kenny-hy5pj They do. Tencent, the publishers/developers behind Delta Force, also have worked on COD Mobile, which also ports models and animations, so it's very likely they have the legal rights to use it. Lazy, but legal. Could be placeholder animations, but we'll only know with time.
If they do have the rights to use them cause they co-developed Call of Duty Mobile then that would make sense, it saves on animation costs. But even if they don't have the rights, I still wouldn't be surprised. Cause trying to sue a company in China for animation theft, it's like fuckin' impossible due to how the laws work in China.
there's no chance activision would give the developers or tencent the rights to animation or other assets for a competing game. tencent owns a stake in activsion, they own stock. they do not own the company. they get a seat at the shareholder meetings, they do not get to dictate usage of activsion ip. just because the team is also developing cod mobile right now doesn't mean the project can't change hands, and it def. doesn't mean they can use those assets in other projects. activision could remove them from development duties. however tencent could sell their stake in activsion and send the share price down, so I'm not sure how this is all going to play out.
It can be considered stealing. It depends on if Activision wants to sue them or not. They can get away with this as long as Activision doesn't feel too bothered with it.
@@BruhElementIt’s not legal, they can’t just straight up steal another game’s animations from another publisher unless they received permission (which is extremely unlikely). I assume they didn’t just copy paste the animations and animated them from scratch while following MW, I don’t know if that’s legal.
There's two things to point out 1. These are the same people who made CoD Mobile, so thats how they have these animations 2. These are place holders for the early alpha, and are no longer in the game anymore.
When it comes to realism I have no issue if they are the same reloads i mean theres only so many ways you reload a gun anyways. It be interesting to see what happens legally.
Did they reuse the same animations of mw19 and mwii or did they copy those animations? Cause these are two very different things. They must have had permission to reuse them cause theres no way they remade them and were able to make them identical
For those who don't know, TiMi worked on Call of Duty Mobile. That might be why most of the animations/assets are really identical with Modern Warfare!
The explanation to this is the devs that are making hawk ops are using the cod engine and have access to it because they previously worked on cod mobile stuff. Regardless this pisses me off. You can see the difference in skill when it comes to their own animations
I had a feeling that they used new MW animations. It turns out that they used the same thing because this game was developed by a subsidiary of Tencent.
For those who don't know, the one who made animation for Delta Force is also the one who made animation for COD Mobile. COD Mobile animation is almost same as COD PC so there is nothing strange when Delta Force have similar animations to COD.
Literally every key frame of the animations are copied, I don't know what Activision's gonna do for this but copying someone's hardwork is definitely not something to be proud of. Delta Force Hawk Ops has just blatantly copied CoD MW and Battlefield 2042 just like Palworld did to Pokemon 😂
Okay real question though, why do they have access to these animations? Because this clearly isn’t just copied, they’ve straight up been ported entirely. Even the most talented animators couldn’t replicate animations one to one like that.
TiMi studios worked on CoD Mobile. They most likely had these assets directly from Activision to use when needed. That or they just did what any other person that ported those animations over to other places such as GMod and Roblox did.
1:25 That is actually a cool, unique reload. Why not make more unique reloads instead of clearly copying something else. It could be a better game than CoD, but because you copied, most people will be annoyed
U know i think its very hard to make a "different" way of reloading a weapon without making it look exactly the same as everyone else can do bc theres only one way the mag could get in and out of it yk? What i mean is theres only one method of reloading a certain weapon and can only do so little with it.
Are these actually straight up stolen animations, or are they the 3d equivalent of "tracing" where they reanimated it over ripped MW reloads so it "technically isn't stolen?"
Something I'd like to mention about the Spear. COD's version has proper picatinny rails to it, while Delta Force uses a pseudo Battlefield 2042 type rail. They can't even copy COD correctly.
8 місяців тому
When you have perfect animations, why make different ones?
Yknow whats funny, i noticed this all the way back in this game's trailer with the M16 grip position. Everyone called me crazy. BUT LOOK WHOS LAUGHING NOW
Why are there mostly complaints about copied animations? It’s the same developers from COD mobile and Delta force is supposedly free to play. Sure as hell looks much more fun than cod and battlefield with their current status.
It’s a company owned by tencent the people who made and is charge with CoDM and took quite a big part of WZM so they must’ve bought the right for these
Think about it this way, it’s running on MW Quake engine but with a downgrade of graphics visual effects. Like the in this video, you can tell MW2 has more graphics fidelity. After all DF will be a free to play
How do they think that its a good idea to take not just the anims (not 100% Sure but im pretty positive) but the gun framework / system as well im surprised Activision hasn't done anything yet
A lot of people saying these animations were straight up ripped from cod. With knowing that the developers worked on codm id have to say they not only were probably able to have access to purchasing the rights but also just understood that you cant really improve on perfection. These animations are about as perfect as you can get. Not only that but not all the animations were straight rips from cod
So many uninformed comments putting bad rep on them. Learn licensing laws. If call of duty didnt purchase exclusive rights or create the animations then lots of other games can use them. Idk if this is the case, but just because the animations are the same doesnt mean its illegal or wrong to do.
Question is: did they rip the animations or just copy them? Because if they copied them then i feel like that would be mor work than just making your own
The company that made DF worked on CoDM and get help or helped with WZM also with Tencent and which Yk almost every company goes to if they wanna poet their game to mobile safe to assume they have the rights or bought the rights for this
@@Wyn3e Working with a publisher doesn't automatically give them ownership of the publisher's assets to use in an unrelated game They probably ripped off CoD, plain and simple
They probably take the “Why work hard when we can work smart” to it maximum capacity
Well said
Except this is straight up illegal. These are stolen cod assets.
They own the assets they are part of COD subsidiary. Still lazy though
Chinese games and products in a nutshell.
Yeah but for this case its okay because fuck call of duty @Noxis07
How much like COD do you require the animations to be?
Delta Force: yes
Chinese stealing as usual😂 what’s new?
@@Shsj272not them eating dogs
Activision and Tencent have cooperation. Tencent also helped develop the COD mobile game. This is tacitly agreed. Activision also cooperates with this game.@@Shsj272
When you copy the homework but forget to change it up a bit
Kinda yes but kinda no. While gun movement itself is straight COD but slowed the arms/hands movement is not. Its very similar but looks like that part was made by DFHO team.
@@SlaYeR5530ok…that doesn’t make it okay even if it’s slightly tweaking the animation. It’s still a straight up copy-cat.
@@MaskAnimations Ofc its not okay. I think "tweaking" is not a good word there, guess they just had to re-do the arms anims.
Ps. I love how they actually destroyed the revolver reloads... Like who tf did that...
They are animation kits. Cod used the library first, I believe.
@@ph1ni422 what?
This is so egregious, way too many of these reloads are just straight up copies. Could the developers get in actual trouble for this?
Most likely, since this breaks the ToS regarding using COD's asset in other projects which basically states that it's no bueno if said project makes money (which I'm assuming this game is, idk much about this game) while it's perfectly okay to use it in projects that don't make money (Ports and other stuff)
Edit: yeah I'm wrong, reply below me has a more accurate answer
Nope they're co-developers for COD Mobile that have rights to use the animations.
@@acoolrocket *doubt.*
@@imjustaguypassingthrough6260cod mobile does port animations so uh yeah, if they own the rights, they own the rights
@@imjustaguypassingthrough6260 more like their parent company i think coz its tencent and tencent made COD Mobile
I knew I wasn’t the only one who thought the animations were “similar”.
why work hard when they can work smart😂
I was shocked at how NOONE was mentioning the fact that it was straight up just copied from CODMW animations
I LITERALLY SAW THE DEAGLE ANIM WAS THE SAME IN THE TRAILER. I WASN'T HALLUCINATING.
Noticed the deagle animation aswell lol.
Si me to I literally though it modern warfare on mobile
"Corporate wants you to find the difference between this picture and this picture"
"They're the same picture"
Chinese dev: *Plagiarism is the key.*
WTH are you even talking about. Tencent contributed most of the weapon animation in COD 16, 19 and 20. Just because you don't know that it doesn't mean you can make false accusations.
You're right, but it still makes Chinese developers look like developers plagiarizing other games@@o_Ol
@@o_Olwhat is bro yapping about?? did bro forgot hyper and his team animate all of the animations 😂😂😂😂😂 the cc tenclown only animate a few amount of shit. 😂😂😂😂 did bro also did not care about the asset rip holy shit 😂😂😂😂
@@F.haique When Tencent is not able to plagiarize, they buy. Money is the ultimate Thanos snap.
@@o_Olthey buy what? the animation? do you have proof with that?
1:54 xD
For those curios at 0:38 the AK reload is using an aftermarket AK saftey called the KREBs enhanced AK safety (there's also a few others like it), it has a little cut out in it that can hold the charging handle back. I have one on an IRL build, to be honest while its a neat reload for a game I wouldn't wanna try it IRL cause it can be annoying to mess with and it makes the safety very stiff because of the spring tension form the bolt being back.
finally someone who noticed
40$ for a piece of metal with a notch for safety that already in the gun itself. extra step for reduce the spring quality just to hold the bolt carrier.
I saw a comment that said this studio is the same studio that worked on CoD Mobile and they're using the animations as place holder for the beta while their animation team works on the actual animations. I hope that's the case because from what I can tell from the animations that arren't taken from MW they have good animators so I hope we'll be able to see more of their work in the full game.
That's completely made up lol, these are clearly not placeholders
these are S tier industrial animation, there arent placeholders lol
@@RainFall800 what makes you think good animation can't be used as placeholders? Placeholder just means that it will be replaced in the future, the quality of what holds its place doesn't matter. I see it being absolutely plausible for them to use MW anims while original animations are being made.
It's not even beta though
i mean it seems reasonable enough, the AUG and MP5 have diff reload animations
Saw the comment asking for a comparison, that was fast
bruhh
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they should have at least gave credits to Infinity Ward Animation Team
Why would they do that, then they’re basically admitting they stole them lol
They are china team
They only copy but no giving credit
They also sue the original
That is china
They're the same animators. You know asset libraries are a thing, right?
@@mattc7420 They’re not the same animators. MW viewmodel animations were made for MW with Activision’s money by Activision employees, are you implying they bought assets online?
@@bigshobe If i dont remember pretty bad... This game is published by some company that works with CODM soooo in a bit of theory they used their assets
i play this video on 1.25x speed. and it was so smooth
Fire mountain slowed down the video to better see the animations
ADHD animations 🤨
@@Mr.LeoNov I mean. The video is slowed down, so not really adhd so much as watching them at their proper speed lol
that cursed AK reload 0:38
Cursed but charming and stylish, would prefer wayyy over like PUBG or BF 2042.
I've seen someone say that an aftermarket part allows the bolt to function like that. It makes a unique animation so I'd say it's pretty cool.
@@ron1n308yup, it’s possible with modified safety level which does exist in real life. But the only advantage is that it look cool.
Although this could work, It's still uncomfortable to see they bring "taticool" to this level
Some after market magazine can archive bolt lock feature, although it's only on the magazine, it can make the user use the safety to lock the bolt easier, which may give a purpose for it
Honestly, A CoD game with reloads this paced would be pretty interesting.
You mean that there's finally no autism shake? I agree, even if these animations are copies, they made them look not as cringy shaken and I appreciate that
Activision on about to go call Saul Goodman right now
tencent has a stake in acti stock, and are responsible for CODM. Acti cant do shit even if they cared to do so, because if they do, tencent could easily kill off CODM which is their biggest COD when it comes to profit
Before people start freaking out, the developers of this Delta Force entry, are the same developers who did COD Mobile, and COD Mobile has almost all animations from Call of Duty MW2019. So yeah, that's why you see many of COD's animations in Delta Force, they're just re-using assets.
oh jeez thanks for that man I thought they just ripped it out.
Except that COD Mobile directly ported most of the weapons all the way down to its anims, so they are all exactly the same as their respective origin games.
In other words, DF "indirectly" copied COD anims.
this is giving me "copy my home work but change it a little bit so the teacher wont notice" kind of energy
They didn't even change the wording at all
the most creative thing they did was repurpose the mp7 reload into the uzi reload. some of them are definitely remakes but much more of them are genuinely just straight up ported animations. I hope they're placeholders.
and the MP-7 animations shouldn't realistically even work on the Uzi because the mag catches are on completely different parts of the gun too smh
They are
Timi worked on CoD Mobile so thats how they got the animation, and if you watch newer alpha gameplay the animations are different
This will be crazy! Thanks for the find!
I definitely noticed similarities in their first trailer like their deagle and tac sprint but god damn lmao
Sad thing is that the ones that aren’t copies are actually good and interesting. Like someone in there does have talent but can’t show it because copying is easier or to trick people.
yea the mp5 ones look great
Probably stolen from somewhere else.
@@johnmatteson2590unless shown. I’m calling them legit because I’m not that cynical.
Its because this is Timi, the same people who made CoD Mobile lol
Its not "Copied" its placeholder from animations they already have. In Alpha gameplay you can see they use different animations
Ngl the P90 reload is lovely
Out all the animation the partial reload is close to what every game uses but that empty reload is amazing
why would you even consider lying?
@@salazar778 Bro who hurt you
@@totalguardian1436He always does that to mobile games because "PC or Console is better". I mean, it's kinda obvious but not mentioning the limitations of mobile devices.
I saw his comments first-hand on Combat Master when it just released that time.
Woah that's crazy... using COD reloads as placeholders. I am glad they replaced them all.
Ah yes, Chinese developers at their finest.
We are getting a free cod, be grateful
@@stealthkills "be grateful" is the most bot shit things I've seen on this platform 😂😂😂😂 how about no thanks, i ain't playing alme cheap chinese cod copy paste that borrowed the delta force ip 😂😂😂
@@rexconnorisacvck lmfao, after the constant rip offs and false promises that cod has delivered for the past 4 years you really think those sc*m deserves any respect or support from people like you?
Truth be told, if this new Delta Force game can replace cod that will be great regardless of whether it came from China or not. If this game does turn out to be as good as MW19 I am all for it. If you want to constantly pay money and get ripped off for games like mw2 and mw3 which all s*ck a** compared to mw19 then go be that guy. Nothing but downgrades from those f*ckers.
The same chinese developers are also co-leads on COD mobile
@@adrianthe402nd
Is that mean they can copy COD MW2 3 animation?
Part of me wants to believe that the guns using MW:19/MWII animations are placeholders given how stylish and great the ones made from scratch are (the P90 oh mah...). So instead of half baking and making BOCW ass animations they used their convenient rights of using MW:19/MWII animations since they co-develop COD Mobile that ports those animations/guns which I just see as a dub.
TIme will tell if they eventually replace all animations, if else at least its the best type of placeholder.
Hopefully the cod anims are just placeholders bc I remember seeing early alpha footage of this game and every gun used cod anims, now some of them have unique reloads
It’s Chinese. It’s not placeholder it is, of course, stolen and copied
@@veekay_t Yeah in some of the early footage they used the same reload animations as COD, I noticed that the AKM used COD MW2 reload animations and now they changed it to this stylized version
They don’t have the rights to use Activison assets in any game they make just because they worked on CoD Mobile, these comments are so misinformed about how game ownership works.
I do not hope these animations are place holders. They're being used in good looking models now and looks so much better. I don't give a f if they're copying Activision, they have been copying MW19 for 4 years now and selling it but making it worse.
the company that made it was a co-dev for COD Mobile, so they had access to the animations
Lol CODM reload animation is totally different to MW2 reload animation
do you have desiese to not understand what you read? i said they're co-dev for CODM so which means they have acces to the animations, what you need to understand here is they're not accessing CODM animations, they have access to every animation that cod have okay?@@Kenny-hy5pj
@@Kenny-hy5pjalso they same people that helped or got help with WZM and also with tencent safe to assume they were able to get the rights for it
good thing TiMi and Activision work together so Delta Force wont get taken down :D
Yes but still………………
It’s still copyright
People you think they just stole animations from call of duty, you're wrong, Operators from Delta Force: Hawk Ops they learned how to reload weapons on youtube by watching the channel "Fire Mountain" when he shows reload animations every season in Call of duty
P.S.-Not the developer of Delta Force: Hawk Ops
Is this a satire post? I've seen similar ones but people were serious about it
It's not about the reload techniques but the animation itself, which is 100% identical (slightly edited in some cases, but identical for the most part)
You won't be able to make it identical unless you know how to copy it frame by frame, which would be harder to do than making your own from scratch
@@HeySlickThatsMe My God, dude, it's such a joke that the operators from game, not the developers, allegedly watched the reloads from Call of duty on youtube and therefore they do it identically. I'm jokingly kind of justifying the developers of Delta Force: Hawk Ops. And yes, they are goats that they just imported into their game
@@HeySlickThatsMemost probably Timi studio responsible for Codm could have licensed the Animation Of MW for both Codm and DF . Simple . PPL just don't get it
So what’s interesting is that the developers for Delta Force also created COD Mobile…do they have a partnership with Activision? Thought I would share that
Nope
I don't think they would
No but Delta Force is under Tencent, which is a Chinese company that has license to use AV Assets.
@Kenny-hy5pj They do. Tencent, the publishers/developers behind Delta Force, also have worked on COD Mobile, which also ports models and animations, so it's very likely they have the legal rights to use it. Lazy, but legal. Could be placeholder animations, but we'll only know with time.
If they do have the rights to use them cause they co-developed Call of Duty Mobile then that would make sense, it saves on animation costs. But even if they don't have the rights, I still wouldn't be surprised. Cause trying to sue a company in China for animation theft, it's like fuckin' impossible due to how the laws work in China.
there's no chance activision would give the developers or tencent the rights to animation or other assets for a competing game. tencent owns a stake in activsion, they own stock. they do not own the company. they get a seat at the shareholder meetings, they do not get to dictate usage of activsion ip. just because the team is also developing cod mobile right now doesn't mean the project can't change hands, and it def. doesn't mean they can use those assets in other projects. activision could remove them from development duties. however tencent could sell their stake in activsion and send the share price down, so I'm not sure how this is all going to play out.
Shoutout to the MW Devs for animating the guns for Delta Force. Looks great!
At least Delta Force’s Vector looks like a Vector
Blud ignored the whole copy animation from cod 😂
So... same animations, but with weapons more similar to the real ones? I'm in
(is what they did legal?)
They made COD Mobile, so i don't think it's entirely illegal, as long as they asked permission or something
It can be considered stealing.
It depends on if Activision wants to sue them or not.
They can get away with this as long as Activision doesn't feel too bothered with it.
@@BruhElementIt’s not legal, they can’t just straight up steal another game’s animations from another publisher unless they received permission (which is extremely unlikely).
I assume they didn’t just copy paste the animations and animated them from scratch while following MW, I don’t know if that’s legal.
@@bigshobeso Chinese developers just stole animations from Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 2019?
The devs are Chinese, it's what they're best at.
I would like to point out that Delta Force has changed the reload animations with their own
Sprint animations still identical, they only changed the egregious ones, the locomotion and other stuff is still 1:1.
lots of comments on the visual element but is the audio is the same too? still amped for the extraction mode no matter what
Delta force has some changes to empty reloads but the shadow as well wasn’t synchronized with the reloads
I never really thought about it, but damn they really “borrowed” the wrong animation set for the Uzi
The real question is .... are both brought from a vendor who does reload animations?
The animations they didn't stole are actually good, so why did they steal them in the first place?
There's two things to point out
1. These are the same people who made CoD Mobile, so thats how they have these animations
2. These are place holders for the early alpha, and are no longer in the game anymore.
Most of the reloads have changed, but the firing, sound, and idle animations are still there. They did half the work and are still using IW assets.
@TheJazzGuy75 idk, to me it looks different.
However it is still in Alpha, and probably will change
@@TheJazzGuy75 Nah firing animation is different too
@@TheJazzGuy75 Sound is too
When it comes to realism I have no issue if they are the same reloads i mean theres only so many ways you reload a gun anyways. It be interesting to see what happens legally.
Stop saying this bullshit
0:38 One of only two reloads in this video that isn’t a complete copy, but then again, I never seen an AK reload like that (right side)…
Its fucking cursed i dont think you can do that
@@TheParadoxGamer1actually you can with some modification with a file
@@zhivnoy_pivot well shit. Still cursed tho.
this is crazy ,even the HUD is COD-Like
Damn now i know why i thought on call of duty seeing this game
"These are the same pictures" moment
Very good high quality animations maked from zero using a mo cap ❤
Did they reuse the same animations of mw19 and mwii or did they copy those animations? Cause these are two very different things. They must have had permission to reuse them cause theres no way they remade them and were able to make them identical
I can see why they were able to get a good number of weapons into the game. Just had to Ctrl + C then Ctrl + V
The only improvement seems to be that they reduced the shaky ass cam, and that's about that
at least they look like real guns in Delta Force
For those who don't know, TiMi worked on Call of Duty Mobile. That might be why most of the animations/assets are really identical with Modern Warfare!
"Why make it yourself when you can straight up steal it"
Gamers finding out theres a very limited number of ways to reload a firearm: 😮
😑
Now we know where all those devs who quit cod went
I still remember when delta force was a novalogic game
The explanation to this is the devs that are making hawk ops are using the cod engine and have access to it because they previously worked on cod mobile stuff. Regardless this pisses me off. You can see the difference in skill when it comes to their own animations
last time i checked, CoDM was using Unity engine, and animations can be easily ported over. still, this is bad.
COD: copy my homework but dont make it too obvious
The homework:
This looks like Pacific Rim synchronized training🤣
Tencent: "Yo, can I copy your homework?"
Activision: "Yeah, but make sure to change it up a little."
Tencent: *this*
watching this in vr to give myself blindness
Comments was heated up bro had to make a comparison
I had a feeling that they used new MW animations. It turns out that they used the same thing because this game was developed by a subsidiary of Tencent.
For those who don't know, the one who made animation for Delta Force is also the one who made animation for COD Mobile. COD Mobile animation is almost same as COD PC so there is nothing strange when Delta Force have similar animations to COD.
Lol they don't make animation
They buy from Activision
And yes CODM reload animation is same to COD MW 2019 but NOT CODMW2 CODMW2
@@Kenny-hy5pj yes, they bought it.
@@jeremie_gamingboy
For 2019 yes they bought it
For DF ?
Any prove ?
@@Kenny-hy5pj they bought the license for the animation, but not buy from Activision, they bought it from animators.
@@jeremie_gamingboy
Well than hope this game force Activision making better game and die after it
Literally every key frame of the animations are copied, I don't know what Activision's gonna do for this but copying someone's hardwork is definitely not something to be proud of. Delta Force Hawk Ops has just blatantly copied CoD MW and Battlefield 2042 just like Palworld did to Pokemon 😂
Okay real question though, why do they have access to these animations? Because this clearly isn’t just copied, they’ve straight up been ported entirely. Even the most talented animators couldn’t replicate animations one to one like that.
TiMi studios worked on CoD Mobile. They most likely had these assets directly from Activision to use when needed. That or they just did what any other person that ported those animations over to other places such as GMod and Roblox did.
@@ycgoh603 Well, I sure hope for their sake that it’s not the latter. Otherwise they’re gonna be in some legal trouble
0:37 what was that ak reload
Wdym? You play as doctor strange so you can move shit with your mind. Fuck reloading manually
@@joogwoogit's very weird, the dude hits the mag release with the edge of his thumb, it looks so bad 💀💀
@@RealOny and locks back the charging handle on an ak
1:25 That is actually a cool, unique reload. Why not make more unique reloads instead of clearly copying something else. It could be a better game than CoD, but because you copied, most people will be annoyed
they will replace placeholder one when the game release remeber the game will be beta
U know i think its very hard to make a "different" way of reloading a weapon without making it look exactly the same as everyone else can do bc theres only one way the mag could get in and out of it yk? What i mean is theres only one method of reloading a certain weapon and can only do so little with it.
Keyboard lawyers actually think the animators stole from a trillion-dollar company 🤦♂️
well, 90% of them are genuine copycat and well.....
Keyboard lawyers actually think they didn’t steal from a trillion-dollar company 🤦♂️
Misinformed restart thinks it wasn't stolen despite frame by frame video evidence, absolute midwit.
It's great that both of these games are cross-platform!
But the shadows in Hawk Ops are terrible, I hope this will be fixed
Are these actually straight up stolen animations, or are they the 3d equivalent of "tracing" where they reanimated it over ripped MW reloads so it "technically isn't stolen?"
Well no wonder those animations in DF:HW look so familiar. Lol
Timi studios (owned by tencent) studio made CoD mobile so they probably have the rights for the animations
Hahaha, some animations don't seem to have 3rd person animations, the shadow doesn't move at all, and some don't even match with the shadows.
Here after they changed all the animations, so it really was just placeholders
Hay recargas que son exactamente las mismas, esto no tiene CompyRight.
Porque no son parecidas, sin las mismas
Something I'd like to mention about the Spear. COD's version has proper picatinny rails to it, while Delta Force uses a pseudo Battlefield 2042 type rail. They can't even copy COD correctly.
When you have perfect animations, why make different ones?
this is literally what happens when you compressed the animation 10 times
Oh they really didn't even try to hide the laziness, they're worse than I was in high school 💀
I’m just curious how this isn’t grounds for a lawsuit? It’s clear they literally just copy and pasted the animation assets
Is there a beta test of the game?
Yknow whats funny, i noticed this all the way back in this game's trailer with the M16 grip position.
Everyone called me crazy.
BUT LOOK WHOS LAUGHING NOW
Why are there mostly complaints about copied animations? It’s the same developers from COD mobile and Delta force is supposedly free to play. Sure as hell looks much more fun than cod and battlefield with their current status.
so these are suppose to be just like placeholder right? there just aint no way they shamelessly copied cod
It’s a company owned by tencent the people who made and is charge with CoDM and took quite a big part of WZM so they must’ve bought the right for these
its like copying programming codes in assignment but change the variables.
How they aren't sued yet??
@Firemountain asking if i could have permission to use your gameplay in my youtube video
This game is made by Tencent, which also owns COD:M. So is this practically plaigarism?
I remember what they did to the new Type 19 reusing the Grau anim from empty reload. Not surprised anymore.
So do they own COD MW2?
It is.
Think about it this way, it’s running on MW Quake engine but with a downgrade of graphics visual effects. Like the in this video, you can tell MW2 has more graphics fidelity. After all DF will be a free to play
How do they think that its a good idea to take not just the anims (not 100% Sure but im pretty positive) but the gun framework / system as well im surprised Activision hasn't done anything yet
Nvm it's the Chinese ofc they Gon steal n copy stuff
A lot of people saying these animations were straight up ripped from cod. With knowing that the developers worked on codm id have to say they not only were probably able to have access to purchasing the rights but also just understood that you cant really improve on perfection. These animations are about as perfect as you can get. Not only that but not all the animations were straight rips from cod
So many uninformed comments putting bad rep on them. Learn licensing laws. If call of duty didnt purchase exclusive rights or create the animations then lots of other games can use them. Idk if this is the case, but just because the animations are the same doesnt mean its illegal or wrong to do.
Ah yes, the age-old question of placeholders or a sternly worded message from Infinity Ward or Activision's legal team
Question is: did they rip the animations or just copy them? Because if they copied them then i feel like that would be mor work than just making your own
The company that made DF worked on CoDM and get help or helped with WZM also with Tencent and which Yk almost every company goes to if they wanna poet their game to mobile safe to assume they have the rights or bought the rights for this
@@Wyn3e Nah they probably just ripped off CoD
@@bigshobe they work with them doubt
@@Wyn3e Working with a publisher doesn't automatically give them ownership of the publisher's assets to use in an unrelated game
They probably ripped off CoD, plain and simple
Wait which one is Delta force and which one is call of duty'
The MOST important thing about this is we FINALLY get these awesome animations with AUTHENTIC NAMED WEAPONS. Not that forge tac bs.
Ah yes, them using real gun names justifies theft. Fantastic.
They’re not dodging the plagiarism allegations with this one 🗣️
Do people know what a placeholder is?