Audi e-tron 55 Black Edition 1000 km challenge
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- Опубліковано 9 гру 2024
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With more and more EV's coming on the road, I believe chargers should be fixed in 24h. People are depending on them to work during a journey.
I think there is 3 things which has to be done because there is more ev's on the road.
1 more chargers
2 fixed chargers within 24/48 hours
3 every charger has to be equipped with card payment option no freaky apps and rfid/subscriptions
It’s incredible how much driving you do. Love your videos.
Bjørn is singlehandedly melting the ice at the poles with all this wasted energy :-D
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@@andreasjacobsen2814 this is also what I am thinking😅
These chargers should be fixed within 24 hrs in my opinion. People are counting on them. If you would have 20 stalls, it is Ok if two are not working, but if 50 % are not working it is very bad.
Tesla Supercharger FTW!
yes superchargers have better reliability but in the US, they don't even have the ccs plug :/
So theyre completely useless for any non tesla ev, and tesla isn't rolling them out to all evs like they are doing in Europe
Could you add a column with the amount of stops in the 1000 km challenge excel?
Still amazing car in 2022. Audi was way ahead of competitors.
When I see this high consumption it seems you always drive uphill :) a few weeks ago, I drove 570km with an e-tron, average speed over this distance was 121km/h! The consumption was 32,4kWh/100km. I drove a lot of time 160km/h and it was cold too. Another trip over this distance, slower and with temperatures around 5-10C with an average speed of 91km/h, the consumption was 22,7kWh/100km. Both trips with 19" winter tires.
These 1000km videos are the best. I hope you can make these still, and would be great if you could drive to Finland someday :). I currently own Tesla Model Y 21, and i have been watching now all of the E-Tron videos from the tubes. The E-Tron 2020/2021 models are much cheeper now in Finland and i am missing the quality when driving Tesla Model Y.
I have also an audi e tron 55.But i always have it on effeciency or whatever its called and ut actually helps u with the battery,it puts all the climate controls in eco and also the gearbox in eco.Ur putting ur car in comfort and putting the gear in sports mode,no need for that.Theres also a help mode to get like 5+ km extra
Hej Bjørn, I was my route from Larvik to Ølen (Rogaland) last saturday. At least one charger at each Ionity charging station was defective. It was the same in Denmark. It seems that Ionity has a problem. In my opinion, an issue should be resolved within 48 hours.
Experience has taught me that the Audi Etron is the most efficient with mode: E-efficiency drive mode select. I personally never use the S-Comfort for long distances. Has this Audi already had the range update?
Driving in efficiency mode the car will be lowered to max level already at speed over 80 km/h, consequently lowering the consumption.
Driving in comfort mode the suspension goes to the lower level only above 140km/h.
*economical* ;)
@@lucabraglia2321 exactly. That is why I drive on the highway in either Efficiency or Dynamic
I actually drive in those two almost all the time
@@J0hn1o1o 😂
Data taken from Audi E-tron self-study program SSP 675.
The charger needs to be repaired in a few days.
If this is the future we can't have 1 week or more downtime on chargers.
I enjoy your videos very much.
Have your road trips list on play often.
It's because of you I own a Peugeot E-2008 today 🍻
I would say in normal times, two weeks downtime is max. One week for the owner to recognize the problem, diagnose the problem, and properly submit a service ticket. One week for the service field team to order supplies, travel, and fix. In pandemic times, I will say six weeks: add four more weeks for logistics delays.
Interesting video as always :-)
One thing worth mentioning though, is that even with the low temperature, your consumption seems to be on the high side.
I think it might be down to driving the entire trip in sports- and comfort mode.
The E-tron will disengage the front motor in “normal driving mode”, as Audi puts it, which I guess could mean that it does not do it when driving in sports mode?
Also when the car is in comfort, the ride height is higher than in Effecient or Dynamic, which adds drag.
It would be interesting to see the test done in the summer and with everything in Effeciancy mode :-) I think you could possibly beat your old time by a bit.
Nope. Incorrect assumption. The e-tron uses *exact* same energy in D and S mode. I already tested it.
@@bjornnyland Have you tested it since end of 2021? There was a software update released for the fat E-tron, which released more usable battery for the earlier models and also changed some things regarding the motor control and thermal management.
You can find more about it if you google something like "E-tron software update" :-)
If it has made a difference regarding the S vs E for the motors, i do not know, but from what Audi says, it sounds like it might have...
@@bjornnyland didn’t you drive it in comfort?
The point is that only in those two modes (Efficiency & Dynamic) does the Ur e-tron lower at smaller highway speed
You are right that the D and S mode do not make any difference.
But we are talking about the Audi drive select modes (Offroad, allroad, Efficiency, Comfort, Auto and Dynamic)
@@XesserX it's currently 2022 and he just tested the e tron??
and he mentioned multiple times in the other e tron videos about more usable batter capacity in this one compared to the one he initially tested a while ago
Just driven 200 miles today, eTron 55 sportback, 21" tyres, mostly on the motorway (UK) at 70mph, some cross country, 7 degrees, heavy rain at times, i got 23.1 per 100km. That level of efficiency happens frequently. Had the car set at 22 degrees hvac, no hypermiling, drafting or whatever, just driving motorway, A or B road speeds, not sure why your figures are so bad (temperature?). On the m'way I was driving in efficiency and cross country in dynamic. My trip computer average over 25,000 miles is 24.85 kWh per 100km. Not the best but nothing like the inefficiency you are getting. In -3 or -4 temperatures, on winter tyres, I was getting around 25.89 on a similar trip. BTW, I set off on the last 186 mile segment, car said I'd arrive with 3%, got home with 5% (started with 87percent - getting slightly more on arrival, than predicted at the start, is a welcome and frequent experience. Nice to see someone showing some appreciation for the fat eTron, it's a great car., despite being a 3 yr old design. Chargers need to be fixed in 24 hrs, IMO.
13:50 Chargers should be fixed at least in one week.
If its a busy location in 48h should be possible better 24h
Chargers should be fixed inmediately,meaning within 24hours or up to 2 days.Do these charging companies monitor these chargers if they were broken/kaputt or do we need to inform them?
Dear Björn, in my opinion chargers should be fixed at most in three working days. Otherwise, the interest in the charging stations is not particularly great ;)
I’m so glad you got real raggars in your video ❤ Love that fatron too, think I will buy one too 😊
I wonder how much better the 2023 model e tron refresh will be.
I'm excited to see the wave of vw group evs with good efficiency *and* good charging speeds (Audi/Porsche PPE platform cars)
i have the e-tron and i love this car. but you're right, today the efficiency is outdated. But the new will come at the end of this year or beginning of 2023. With 600 km range :-) cant' wait!
Bjorn, you should indicate in your google sheet that the test was done at night because the consumption is higher at night than during the day for the same temperature.
It's interesting that e.on, as a German charge point operator is directly selling power via debit/credit card cheaper than when using a charging cards,. In Germany, we see a lot of opposition to mandatory bank card terminals at DC chargers, arguing that nobody will use them as ad-hoc prices are always more expensive than when using a charging card. However, given the huge overhead of charging cards (which, in the end, usually get the money from the very same account linked to the debit/credit card), it might be that card payment at the charger is cheaper. Maybe Norway will - again - be an example for that.
Wow! That consumtion was through the roof! I just dont get it. I am on my fourth e-tron now, have one identical to this one, a black edition 22 mod. And i have never seen numbers this high. I also work at Møller bil selling these used and was really surprised by the consumption. I commute 80km to work every day, mostly highway and i feel that this new 22 has a slightly better average than the other ones ive had. Its almost like i suspect something faulty with the one you where given. Even though its probably fine 😂
Anyways, good work as usual Bjørn 💪🏻
I've been driving my 2019 E-tron 55 almost the exact same route as the 1000 km challenge countless times, in all kinds of temperatures and conditions, and I've never even been close to the consumption Bjørn is getting. It's very weird.
@@henrikingvarsson3863 Yeah. I drive the same 160km every day my self, and i push 130kph whenever i can and i rarely push 30kwh. Even over the winter. Had a few days on 31/32kwh, but thats on the worst days.
@@Rostinhi Been touching the 30+ kWh mark a few times, but very rarely. 27-28 is usually the case. Around 130 kph on the speedo (closer to 140 south of Varberg...) if the traffic allows it. Always using the Efficiency mode when driving longer stints on motorways though.
I usually turn the car off when charging however, and I notice that Bjørn left the "ignition" on. When standing still in a queue for example, I have seen that the consumption keeps climbing surprisingly fast, even when not moving. I wonder if this can have anything to do with the extreme consumption figures Bjørn is getting?
@@henrikingvarsson3863 Yes. I saw someone else commented on the same, leaving the car on during charging and he had an explanation for it. I have never done the maths of standing still for two hours with everything on. Either way we have the same experience and i cant help but feel that the consumption he had on this trip was not representative of the actual performance of the car.
No doubt its a thirsty mf. But 36-40kwh? Thats caravan terretory.
@@Rostinhi Yes, the figures are beyond my grasp. I don't think I could reach those numbers even if I tried.
I'd say that chargers should be fixed within 24-48 hours. Kaputt chargers seems to be a far too regular phenomenon.
This is the one big reason i did NOT get another car then Tesla i don´t want to have a bunch of diffrent accounts from diffrent charging places and ionity really sucks when it comes to service there chargers , the rest of the charging places don´t have that problem keeping there chargers open.
As the e-tron counts travelling time and calculates average (lower) speed if you leave the car switched on during the charging stops and even get it heated during that time - I guess this fully spoils your average consumption as the heated waiting time goes into the calculation.
Not much. Total charging time was about 2 hours. If the car pulls 1 kW on average for heating, that's just 2 kWh total. Spread that across 1000 km and you get 2 Wh/km increase. A drop in the ocean.
@@bjornnyland Tyres, because they are so big/wide?
great video, thanks
Do you have a the # of stops? that would be very useful
On my way to work is one service station on motorway with 50 kw type 2 charger. This charger is broken for lease one year🤣 funny to watch zoe 22kw and 40 kw owners when they arrive with low battery🤣 there is no other charger in the range of 15 miles🤣
please test i4 edrive 40 range compared to m50 version.
Ok, e-tron is thirsty - there is no way around it, but why to drive in Comfort + S mode? I've driven e-tron 55 for a year and there _is_ a difference in consumption when driving Comfort+S vs. Efficiency+E. I've even checked with OBDeleven that in the S mode the both of the motors are awake almost all the time, whereas in E mode the front motor is almost always asleep and is woken only when there is quite a much higher demand for torque/acceleration. Maybe it wouldn't impact in 1000 km challenge, but still...
I tested D vs S Mode and there was *no* difference in efficiency.
@@bjornnyland I agree. No difference between D and S. But there is a difference between D/S vs. E. Partially because of in the Efficiency mode the air susp goes to the lowest possible setting and partially because the car then mostly uses the rear motor and it uses it also very conservatively. Go pedal is very much tuned down and the car feels extremely sluggish. But still... I get ~2ish kWh/100 km less in E mode. Do I use it often? No. I didn't get e-tron so that I can drive economically. Typically it's S & Comfort.
@@villho For me, on the motorway or dual carriageways, I use efficiency, no real need for anything else, off the motorway, I use dynamic or comfort (some of our roads are really bad!) I'm going to test efficiency v D+S myself
I've always wondered if OK gas stations in Sweden are the same as Circkle K? I mean... O is a circle :)
I have always wondered why OK did not sue Statoil when they changed name.
Circle K is a Canadian corporation, so basically Statoil sold their stations to Circle K. And afaik it’s not the same as OK.
Nice video ( as always) , can you give playlist of music (Shazam not find all)
Chargers should be down for no longer than petrol pumps are down. That is the standard EV chargers should be working towards.
Rumors that new fat etron will have over 300 mile range, and shoudl be more efficient. I Love the etron. I'm in US and was looking at the Rivian R1T, but beause the price on that car increased, I may look for an etron to pruchase instead? Beautiful car as well.
must do artic circle road trip
Charger downtimes should be resolved within 24 hours. Chargers are critical infrastructure and the expectations of reliability are suitably high.
Can you make 1000km challenge with e-2008? It has some updates this year.
Tritium should apply 6 nines like 3 minute per year downtime
Hur mycket kostar uppladdningarna? är det svindyrt att snabbladda?
Bjorn, when you account for cars misreporting distance, do you test more than once to make sure the difference is linear and not random or something?
It's consistent.
That’s right… the PHAT e-tron.
Short question.
What to chose BMW iX40 or this fat E-tron55 ?
I am driving approx 50 000 kilometers / year in Sweden and Norway.
Bjorn. What real world range do you think the Model Y SR will do 90 and 120km? And Wh/km?
I have only figures for model Y LR it is 183Wh/km @10 degrees Celsius. I think Model Y SR Will do slightly better (180Wh/km) because of the lower weight.
hi Mr Bjorn of all your EV reviews, i think you should sell your tesla and go for the fat Etron :D
Acceptable? Not even a day. If a charger is broken it should be fixed immediately. Its the same with normal pump stations. And if they want everybody to go electric yet this was still happening (chargers being broken for weeks) than there will be massive lines waiting for charging.
There is a reason why I keep driving diesel for a while. And this is one of them. Next to distant on a full battery/fuel tank. Convenience of fueling/inconvenience of charging and charging times.
Why are you standing at those chargers with full front lights on?
Because when the car is on, the lights are on.
This car win the highest consumption car ever😂
Also one of the most comfortable cars to drive. Quiet, air suspension, ventilated seats with massage and driver's assistance stuff (auto high beam, rain sensor, lane keep assistant, night vision camera, lane change warning, HUD, traffic sign recognition etc.) that work without clitches.
I talked to Ionity and they said that they are missing parts. Electronic parts are not possible to get, så chargers cant`t be fixed ???
Theu also say that it`s not correct when you tell them that chargers are not working, they answer that the log say the chargers are working. Ionity are the worst of them all ..
How is it hard to believe that they dont get electronic parts in the current world situation?!
Some industry electronic components have an expected delivery time of one year when 2 years ago it was only a few weeks.
@@maxihacky I believe them when it comes to missing parts, but they say chargers work when they don`t, that`s not good ;-)
@@jrnhagen5621 I can agree on that :)
The cost of driving this car is astronomical. 300Wh/100 km. 🤔450Wh. 😁
Is it more comfy than eqs ?
Why do you call the e-Tron "fat eTron". Just wondering. Thank you.
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What did you smear on your sausage, Bjorn? Looked … interesting.
Max en dag är acceptabelt
Is there any reason you drive in comfort mode and not Dynamic or Efficiency mode ? Dynamic and Efficiency mode lowers the car.
i would guess because the car drives more comfortably
@@raphi25895
Ha ha, yes .. but it affects the consumption ;-)
@@raphi25895 The last time he tested this car back in 2019 "Model X vs e-tron 1000 km challenge part 2" he drove in Efficiency mode, so if he compares the two tests and wants to use them as a summer / winter test like he sais in the video, he should run in the same mode both tests ;-)
@@jrnhagen5621 Of course, the question is how much do the different modes actually make up in terms of consumption.
Incorrect assumption. Dynamic Mode and Efficiency Mode uses *exact* same energy. Proof:
ua-cam.com/video/A7pVQMQlspA/v-deo.html
I think one week is acceptable for a charger to be down.
audi's tech ui looks so old tired, comapared to other competitorr ev, even with chinese ev looks much modern
that's what she said...🤣
That was my reason not to get the e-tron - it is totally ridiculus how inefficient this car is. I don't care how fast it loads, that's completely besides the point. Pretending to do smth for the environment by driving ev and then using double as much as other cars - no go.
I would trade my LR Model 3 for an Etron anytime. The thing is, no one at our company (with an Etron) wants to switch cars.
It’s so much more car. Bigger, more comfort, quality is way better. I don’t care about consumption. Never did before.
If you care about consumption, go for the fiat edition Ioniq, or a Mii Electric.
@@theinsiders4561 My wife is driving the Kona e which is brilliant regarding consumption. There lies my dilemma - I care about efficiency but I believe I never said I only cared about efficiency. I do like quality in materials and wish for a good combination.
I don't know why but Bjorn's economy figures are a lot worse than mine over 25,000 miles. It seems other owners also have much better economy.
@@philhartley7564 I would hope so - the numbers seem extremely high, no matter which mode he's driving in. I mean it's still Norway / Sweden smooth driving with speed limits.