Why Erik Ten Hag's Ajax Are So Good

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  • @Rogarcai
    @Rogarcai 3 роки тому +563

    He's already a big manager at a big club. I know some say it doesn't count unless he manages West Ham on a cold, windy night in Burley but in reality he doesn't have to manage West Ham in order to be one of the best.

    • @andrew7taylor
      @andrew7taylor 3 роки тому +85

      Ajax's history is incomparable to almost every club in the world. In the Premier League only Liverpool and MU are bigger than them. Plus Chelsea and Man City if you count the money.

    • @ishan2001
      @ishan2001 3 роки тому +16

      @@andrew7taylor Man City got no history

    • @andrew7taylor
      @andrew7taylor 3 роки тому +35

      @@ishan2001 Would love to agree with you. Unfortunately I can't.
      They've won the 5th most trophies out of all the English clubs. More than anyone except MU, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea.

    • @Rogarcai
      @Rogarcai 3 роки тому +14

      @@andrew7taylor
      I agree, but aparentently it doesn't count unless you're premier league proven (tm) in the eyes of many folks. Even so called "experts" most of whom don't even see European football unless it's the champions league. Back when my eyes were bleeding under Valverde, I heard many people say that Barcelona still played "tiki taka." We haven't done that consistently since Luis Enrique back in 16-17. Right now it's that we're starting to get back on track.
      As for Ten Hag, the only upgrades in terms of status would be Liverpool and Man United, Bayern currently. He could also go to Chelsea or Man City in a year or two once Pep decides he's had enough but that wouldn't be a bigger club he would be moving into.

    • @liam00
      @liam00 3 роки тому +2

      @@Rogarcai it was hardly tiki taka under Enrique because they bypassed the midfield, that wasn't a problem just a different style. Valverde on the other hand 🤦‍♂️🥱

  • @florisdevries8235
    @florisdevries8235 3 роки тому +409

    I think the two main tactical ideas of Ten Hag aren’t explained that well. 1. During the build-up, berghuis and Gravenberch will often become two number tens, with Gravenberch often dropping deep. At the left side, Blind can easily progress the ball to the two tens, target man Haller or Tadic. But when Timber has the ball, Mazraoui tends to push up in the half space, leaving the passing line open to Anthony. So the left back has to choose between keeping the pitch narrow or leaving Mazroui free between the lines. So consequently, Anthony has a lot of space to dribble with this left foot like Arjen Robben or play a through pass to the running Mazraoui. Either way, they can create space to get a (low) cross to the striker or the two tens, who are running between the lines. 2 By pressing at the goal kick quite narrowly, the full backs will be left free. But if a long ball will reach them, one of Ajax backs had already left their position to pressure the opponent’s back. When Alvarez drops deep between the two central defenders, the back four (3+ Alvarez) is allowed to step out very aggressively to the winger or the striker. This is of course a very high risk/high reward strategy but the big compliment to Ten Hag is how perfectly everyone is cooperating as a machine.

    • @colouredIncognito
      @colouredIncognito 3 роки тому +59

      Tifo has gotten extremely simplistic the last few years

    • @strangedragon9018
      @strangedragon9018 3 роки тому +37

      @@colouredIncognito that's because majority of people wants to know more information in less time they are just capitalising on it

    • @colouredIncognito
      @colouredIncognito 3 роки тому +6

      @@strangedragon9018 they just offer less information than before though

    • @shawngillogly6873
      @shawngillogly6873 3 роки тому +11

      It's high risk/high reward, but unlike most Total Football, where the problem was, "What happens when your attackers are caught defending?" With all these legitimate multi-positional players across the back (all of Timber, Blind, Alvarez, and Martinez can play centerback or the 6, and are comfortable at one of, if not both, fullback spots), there isn't the ability to target a weak player who gets caught 1v1 defensively.
      Which massively helps the defensive solidity of the club, as they can hold up when they are caught in transition.

    • @albertobuckley9646
      @albertobuckley9646 3 роки тому +5

      Sounds like he very much tries to do the same thing Pep does at City, each of them adjusting the path to do it according to the profiles of their respective players. Antony seems like a perfect Mahrez replacement at some point.

  • @leniesta2392
    @leniesta2392 3 роки тому +335

    Berghuis progression since leaving Rotterdam is amazing. Don’t get me wrong he was great at Feyenoord but he took Ajax (and himself by doing so) to a new level, the wonderful recruitment policy of Ajax struck once again… they play beautiful football but they are run even better

    • @2229JMAN
      @2229JMAN 3 роки тому +8

      Burghuis 🐍🐍🐍🐍

    • @ICULooking
      @ICULooking 3 роки тому +3

      It's funny because at the time of the De Jong/Ligt sales, leadership was very unstable but they turned it around by making tough personnel choices

    • @vincentlieve9251
      @vincentlieve9251 3 роки тому +1

      Ik weet niet naar welke wedstrijden jij zit te kijken..

    • @rh.m6660
      @rh.m6660 2 роки тому

      Are you high? Berghuis has been VERY disappointing as of late.

    • @walnoot1234
      @walnoot1234 2 роки тому

      Sorry, don't agree. Berghuis started reasonably well, contributed in some big games in a meaningful way (goals, assists) but it goes to far to say that he took Ajax to a new level. If anything, I feel he has to be at his best to be at the level required. Not that he is elevating others around him to a higher level. And let's not forget the many games where he is substituted because it's simply not enough what he's showing at the 10 position at Ajax.

  • @veydaantkhanna
    @veydaantkhanna 3 роки тому +70

    Lovely to see Joe learn about football in real time

  • @jeffrueter94
    @jeffrueter94 3 роки тому +41

    It's great to see Joe using what he learned from Alex's "Why you should care about Johan Cruyff" seminar.

  • @montibeats
    @montibeats 3 роки тому +73

    He is a Great trainer but above him Overmars and V d Sar are building behind the scenes this Ajax team over again, with new stars.. just how Cruijff wanted this with them. If yu see how many stars Ajax brings into the world its Amazing sick!! So many left like frenkie ziyech de Ligt and still they killing the CL with another team🔥🔥

    • @waggna469
      @waggna469 2 роки тому +2

      @Thierry Parte no one was talking about the overall history of Ajax mate. But you did your research so cheers

  • @souravsinghbhandari9699
    @souravsinghbhandari9699 3 роки тому +42

    I remember Ten hag because of the amazing performance that Ajax put in 2018-19 champions league season that was a magical team.

  • @HEROplanetX
    @HEROplanetX 3 роки тому +89

    Can’t call tadic a Southampton failure. He did rather well there right?

    • @Icekiller7
      @Icekiller7 3 роки тому +52

      Yeah I was about to say. Calling Tadic a failure at Southampton is a total mischaracterization.

    • @AntagoProta
      @AntagoProta 3 роки тому +40

      Southamptom didn't even want to lose Tadic and tried to convince him to stay, he just wanted to play for Ajax.

    • @davidsaville5239
      @davidsaville5239 3 роки тому +24

      During Tadic's time at the Saints they twice qualified for the Europa League

    • @-mikabe834
      @-mikabe834 3 роки тому +5

      @@AntagoProta And we are very happy with Tadic. 😊

    • @SJMMA
      @SJMMA 2 роки тому +1

      Failure? No? Success? Again, probably no. Good footballer, always was, and it was obvious that he was. But the others in that squad always got the credit (Mane, Wanayama, JWP, Big Virge. He just didn’t have the pace to play on the wing, or the energy and defensive output to play centrally. Now in a better team that could’ve been covered more, but in that squad it wasn’t. Never a failure though, just not a success

  • @mrtada8101
    @mrtada8101 2 роки тому +15

    It's amazing how he copes with so many players leaving all the time

  • @chrisborst4488
    @chrisborst4488 3 роки тому +209

    Nice that you mention that ten Hag is coaching a team with former unsuccesfull mid-table premier league players and getting extremely succesfull in the UCL with them. Something that I noticed is that the players he was succesfull with in 18/19 (de Jong, de Ligt, van de Beek, Ziyech, Tagliafico, and Neres) might, with hindsight, not be as good as they seemed under ten Hag. Perhaps another indicator that ten Hag is an incredibly good manager.

    • @djdewaal289
      @djdewaal289 3 роки тому +41

      Don't underestimate Ziyech, he was good before Ten Hag.

    • @chrisborst4488
      @chrisborst4488 3 роки тому +31

      @@djdewaal289 Ziyech was indeed incredible before ten Hag, as well.

    • @theenilenation
      @theenilenation 3 роки тому +23

      De jong and ziyech are incredible

    • @Winalways-tn3dc
      @Winalways-tn3dc 3 роки тому +4

      @@theenilenation de Jong is meh he’s not where he should be for the wages he gets and his time he’s already seen in the field seems to not be getting better

    • @slungellife
      @slungellife 3 роки тому +53

      @@Winalways-tn3dc De jong played a very good first season at barca, but has since been deployed literally everywhere on the pitch, except for his preferred position which is as a deep defending midfielder. How well would Busquets fare if you would ask him to play as an attacking midfielder?

  • @jakeparker6610
    @jakeparker6610 3 роки тому +43

    Great video. As a United fan I feel we've always been behind on appointing managers due to the inept clowns in charge. Moyes wasn't good enough, Van Gaal & Mourinho were managers past their best, we didn't go for Poch when he was on the up and then carried on with Ole for way longer than we should have.
    It's about time we targeted the best up and coming boss in the game and Ten Hag fits the bill. Brilliant football, a demanding winner and a modern football mind, he ticks a lot of boxes. Wishful thinking maybe but fingers crossed Rangnick's arrival & Woodward's 'departure' can hopefully start putting us in the right direction, and the prospect of Ralf sorting the football side out with Ten Hag as manager is very exciting.
    The worry is that he'll wait it out for Pep's job but after all, another King Eric at United has a nice ring to it

    • @phillyrockz
      @phillyrockz 3 роки тому +2

      Pipe dream.🤷🏻

    • @YoungGzBlitz
      @YoungGzBlitz 2 роки тому +14

      @@phillyrockz This didn't age well

    • @phillyrockz
      @phillyrockz 2 роки тому

      @@YoungGzBlitz Indeed it didn't. Apparently I gave him more credit than he deserved.🤷🏻

    • @Cantona77-08
      @Cantona77-08 2 роки тому +1

      Yep, good manager on the up.
      Van Gaal and Mourinho are past their best.
      We need a new direction

    • @patrickkairu7752
      @patrickkairu7752 2 роки тому +1

      @@phillyrockz this did not age well 🤣🤣

  • @WongaCoup173
    @WongaCoup173 2 роки тому +6

    Ten Hag is an amazing manager. He ensures performance in the light of some very serious personnel issues at Ajax, especially last year. Onana out for months due to doping, Haller (biggest incoming transfer ever) was not registered for Europe last season, Promes being prosecuted for allegedly knifing his cousin in the knee (and subsequently and suddenly being dumped at Spartak Moskou, in a country with which the Netherlands has no extradition treaty).
    2021 was a horrible year for Ajax as a consequence of poor personnel management and Ten Hag still managed to secure the championship. Amazing.

  • @senyongaeric1948
    @senyongaeric1948 7 місяців тому +9

    Funny how two years laters these same guys are slating the man.. Pundits and analysts are a fickle lot I dare say

  • @chrispickens9719
    @chrispickens9719 3 роки тому +81

    The most natural transition for him would be to City or Barca, but with the United job not only open but being completely rebuilt in the next 3 years he could make it in his imagine something that might appeal to him lo g term.

    • @stormlord23
      @stormlord23 3 роки тому +15

      Football will always be about the players interpreting ideas.
      The most amazing thing about ten hag is how he looks at Alvarez and Martinez and says "I like the way you play, you both can be also midfielders". And then he adapts them to being midfielders....
      Same with de Jong. Who Barça see as an 8... Well...
      Anyway. He turned Berghuis into a attacking midfielder, he turned tadic from being a very limited player to an all around attacker
      And he he used Haller on a style of play similar to Eintracht... But he plays nothing like them. He just see what the athletes are good at and uses it

    • @waggna469
      @waggna469 2 роки тому

      The rebuild during a rebuild. Finished club

    • @tiggz8762
      @tiggz8762 Рік тому +1

      @@waggna469 aged well :)

  • @MylesB93-
    @MylesB93- 3 роки тому +107

    Because they play so WIDE

  • @treasuren
    @treasuren Рік тому +4

    Very interesting how JJ compared Martinez's progressive passing to Lindelof's who came on to replace Martinez when he was injured at the end of the 22/23 season

  • @JimTheFly
    @JimTheFly 3 роки тому +6

    JJ's opening comments never fail to make me chuckle.

    • @mss11235
      @mss11235 3 роки тому

      Every video? First time I noticed. But maybe it was because Recruiter Goblins was my favorite. (Ringleader, Warchief, the lot)

  • @jdjphotographynl
    @jdjphotographynl 3 роки тому +62

    I still believe Klaassen never really got a fair chance at Everton. He played his games when Koeman was around (and may have not been as good as he was at Ajax, but give somebody some time to adjust to life in the Premier League please), but the moment Allardyce came in, it simply was game over for Klaassen.
    Having said that, I always believed Klaassen is the kind of player that would fit well in the Bundesliga, and that's where he did end up doing alright at Werder Bremen. Shame Werder Bremen itself wasn't doing too well though.

    • @janmoritzz
      @janmoritzz 3 роки тому +9

      As a Bremen fan, I think Klaassen played very well there for the circumstances. And after he was gone, they played significantly worse and then also got relegated.

    • @-mikabe834
      @-mikabe834 3 роки тому +4

      See what is happening to v/d Beek, de Ligt in the beginning was also not so best now the say good be one of the best defenders. Some players need time to adept.

    • @jdjphotographynl
      @jdjphotographynl 3 роки тому +7

      @@-mikabe834 I always had the impression Van de Beek was bought by Manchester United in case Pogba would leave, except Pogba never left...
      Other than that, I believe Van de Beek, like Klaassen, would be a better fit in the Bundesliga, where they tend to rate hard working running box to box midfielders a bit more than they do in the Prem. Problem for Van de Beek is his 40 million euro price tag, something probably only Bayern can afford, however they don't need him. If Manchester United could settle for 20-25 million, Van de Beek could be a good addition to clubs like Dortmund, Leverkusen, or Wolfsburg.

  • @henryhayward6485
    @henryhayward6485 3 роки тому +14

    Sorry but Tadic was class for Southampton. In his first 2 seasons he was one of the best for creating chances in the league and when you look at how many assists he got for a team like Southampton, I think it's totally wrong to say he was 'alright' or a 'failier'. Ajax bought him for a reason.

    • @phillyrockz
      @phillyrockz 3 роки тому +3

      They also don't factor in clubs buying players that don't suit their DNA at all and Ajax doing exactly that. Haller didn't fail Westham, Westham failed Haller. They spent 50 million on a killer in the box and then just told him we are gonna keep playing our super defensive counter ish football and we want you to constant runs into pace and to kinda be a Kluivert type of striker also on top of that. The man showed everywhere he's a cold blooded scoring machine. Westham was not his fault.

  • @tyneadik7189
    @tyneadik7189 3 роки тому +19

    Can we have more goblin talk next time, feel like you got carried away with the Ten Hag portion of the video

  • @Rhoonae
    @Rhoonae 3 роки тому +2

    Cold opens are actually hilarious and I love them

  • @moistpeanut5986
    @moistpeanut5986 3 роки тому +77

    I am surprised he is still at Ajax. I thought he would go to Barca before Koeman and Bayern before Flick.

    • @imanafdar
      @imanafdar 3 роки тому +13

      dont worry, United will take care of him next season

    • @1337menno
      @1337menno 3 роки тому +17

      @@imanafdar Nah. Don't see Ten Hag going to Man U

    • @ishan2001
      @ishan2001 3 роки тому +2

      @@imanafdar Yes he will .... He already said that he is ready for bigger challenge in the summer

    • @j.d.bolick8657
      @j.d.bolick8657 3 роки тому +6

      @@ishan2001 the "right" challenge, which United isn't. Ten Hag doesn't speak much English and he loathes dealing with the media, and the latter is something that any United manager must do endlessly. Also, the roster does not fit what he wants to do at all. It is possible that United could offer so much money that he would go anyway, but I strongly doubt that he would accept that job.

    • @celtic69
      @celtic69 3 роки тому +1

      @@j.d.bolick8657 he interviewed for the spurs job, he’d 100% go to United

  • @HominisLupis
    @HominisLupis 2 роки тому

    What an exceptional video. Well done Messrs Joe Devine and JJ Bull!

  • @dylanbrady9925
    @dylanbrady9925 3 роки тому +65

    I can't imagine too many scenarios that goblins wouldn't be accepted.
    Maybe an anti-Goblin march? Probably wouldn't go down well there.

    • @liamdevine8063
      @liamdevine8063 3 роки тому +5

      If you know goblins like I do though you know that's exactly where they will turn up the bastards.

    • @buxycat
      @buxycat 3 роки тому +1

      Goblins are bad for your Elf.

  • @anantvarmanprasad881
    @anantvarmanprasad881 Рік тому +4

    14:50 aged well

  • @vovkabondarev7416
    @vovkabondarev7416 7 місяців тому +4

    Just got recommended this video lol

  • @JoeMamasBasement
    @JoeMamasBasement 2 місяці тому +4

    Lmao no way this got recommended to me in late October 2024… 😂😂😂

  • @miistercrayon
    @miistercrayon 3 роки тому +55

    I think there is value in having “soft” games to really drill down play tactics in competitive games but easier games and then take that oiled machine to tougher games.
    Also it seems like he’s a coach who can create good systems which elevate players. It’s interesting in the past how much transfer value has been placed on players where later it feels like their value was actually elevated above their actual quality (hi Werner!)

    • @dddgtsd
      @dddgtsd 3 роки тому +1

      Literally came to comment this before even watching the video. Whilst it may be tough to get his team up to speed for high intensity competitive matches, he can experiment and rotate more in the league to then get the best out of them in the Champions League. Right, now to watch the video.

    • @smogma
      @smogma 2 роки тому +2

      @@dddgtsd i mean our league is not as tough as the prem but acting like there are no teams that can beat you is a bit foolish. If you have a lesser day most teams will be able to hold you back and maby even win. ajax wins most of theire league games quite eazy but if they fail to show up it has shown to cost them points. they let in 5 goals but have droped 12 points. the moment they dont defend that well the opponents will punish you. the eredevisie is not a walk in the park even in that champions league season they where placed 2nd until the last 3 games. PSV, AZ and FEIJNOORD will perform well in the league every season and to beat them you need to play your best every week.

    • @dddgtsd
      @dddgtsd 2 роки тому

      @@smogma not saying no one can beat you but it's a less competitive league than say Italian/Spanish/English. Not saying there aren't tough games but there are more games where the top teams could hypothetically rotate or test out new systems with less of an impact on their season. I wasn't disrespecting the league just something to consider.

    • @smogma
      @smogma 2 роки тому

      @@dddgtsd that's fair just wanted to let you know the Eredivisie is not as bad as people think. Most of the time the big teams make a lot of early changes when they are ahead rather than changing the starting eleven. Most of the time the starting eleven is changed before a game because it's an easy game it will come back to hount you

    • @dddgtsd
      @dddgtsd 2 роки тому

      @@smogma I'm not one of these Prem fans who assumes other leagues are weak. I also think the impatient owners and pressure of some leagues stops clubs from experimenting or implementing new philosophies. Perhaps in the Netherlands, the owners understand this stuff better and allow their managers to try different tactics knowing it will be fruitful in the long term.

  • @adimudiraj
    @adimudiraj 11 місяців тому +13

    Funny how the same manager is clueless as per you guys now that he’s having some serious player attitude issues, the non-stop media pressure, injuries and inept owners (INEOS still not approved as minority owners at the time of writing). How could the same manager not been given some leeway after seeing what he can conjure up, if given the right structure and time?

    • @JD-ee4df
      @JD-ee4df 2 місяці тому

      What do you think now

  • @petervandersanden1374
    @petervandersanden1374 3 роки тому +5

    As a PSV fan, I watched this with a begrudged interest

    • @md-run
      @md-run 3 роки тому +1

      I’m intrigued by Dutch football, how do other Dutch clubs see Ajax? Is it an intense rivalry or do they all get along?

    • @ThaDoggo
      @ThaDoggo 3 роки тому +4

      @@md-run the toxic fans hate the other toxic fans nothing much. Its also a fact that the eredivisie is a lot better than most ppl think. (Az vitesse psv and feyenoord. The biggest rivalry is feyenoord and ajax.

    • @-mikabe834
      @-mikabe834 3 роки тому

      That's because psv fans are not the smartest people. 🤭

    • @mikevanos4229
      @mikevanos4229 2 роки тому

      In the dutch competition Ajax is always the team to beat during the season. Ajax has dominant periods shared with PSV or Feijnoord in the dutch competition but in European football Ajax shows what they are made for.

  • @Tomow20
    @Tomow20 3 роки тому +16

    As a United fan despite how well Rangnick does Ten Hag has to be brought in, in the summer. Rangnick goes upstairs, and Ten Hag comes in as a long term project manager. Hope he also bring some Ajax players with him

    • @1337menno
      @1337menno 3 роки тому +17

      You don't deserve Ten Hag

    • @ishan2001
      @ishan2001 3 роки тому

      @@1337menno Shut up ... Man Utd are still the biggest team in premier league 🤡

    • @j.d.bolick8657
      @j.d.bolick8657 3 роки тому +5

      99% of managers would kill to get the United job but ten Hag is in the 1% who would not be interested. He wants to coach, not to deal with intense media scrutiny.

    • @footballvideos4246
      @footballvideos4246 2 роки тому

      Doesn't matter how great a manager is, United will find a way to ruin their career.

  • @guilhermebittar917
    @guilhermebittar917 3 роки тому +12

    I'm surprised a PL team or Barcelona haven't signed him from Ajax yet. He is perfect for what Barça wants or United if Rangnick really steps down from the manager role.

    • @shawngillogly6873
      @shawngillogly6873 3 роки тому +16

      Why would he leave Ajax for a Premier League team with an uncertain structure or a Barca team that is in massive debt and can't buy players?
      ETH isn't an extrovert who needs all the power. He's a technical coach, who likes to drill down on that aspect. As such, he needs a club with a solid Continental Model. At Ajax he has Van Der Saar and Overmars, both of whom are very good at their jobs. And all three are comfortable in their roles. If he goes to Barca, he walks into crisis. If he goes to United, what's the footballing structure? In fact, I'd submit the ONLY English club that has the roles that would enable him to succeed is Chelsea. But it already has Tuchel. Otherwise, his best landing place (Bayern) just took a new manager of similar profile.

    • @tamunotamuno3564
      @tamunotamuno3564 3 роки тому +1

      u mean when he steps up 😂

    • @j.d.bolick8657
      @j.d.bolick8657 3 роки тому +1

      Ten Hag doesn't want to go to the Premier League. Tottenham tried to get him but he stayed at Ajax instead because here he can coach without spending so much time answering questions from the media. When he leaves, it will probably be for the Bundesliga.

    • @najmuddinnazaharuddin9911
      @najmuddinnazaharuddin9911 3 роки тому

      @@shawngillogly6873 what about city after pep leaves? They both play the same style of football

    • @KEN-tf9sr
      @KEN-tf9sr 2 роки тому

      @@shawngillogly6873 Ralf is trying to build that structure Ralf is going to build the foundation and squad for the next manager he isnt here to to just be another manager he is trying to change man utd

  • @Michaelkaydee
    @Michaelkaydee 2 роки тому +1

    United need to close this out and make the dream combination of Ten Hag in the dugout and Rangnick upstairs

  • @Robin-uh6zo
    @Robin-uh6zo 2 роки тому

    Nice to see this as an Ajax fan.

  • @daanvanlaerhoven546
    @daanvanlaerhoven546 3 роки тому +1

    Big Ajax fan. Great video

  • @chrisscollick261
    @chrisscollick261 2 роки тому +1

    He's interviewed for the Man Utd role.
    I Hope we do appointment him and the board give him time (2-3 years) to pretty much rebuild the team, like he has done with Ajax.

  • @demensclay6419
    @demensclay6419 2 роки тому

    The tactical expanation is very good, correct and to the point

  • @theredjediknight
    @theredjediknight Рік тому +3

    He's here at United and has transformed us, he's even improved Harry Maguire!!

    • @catgladwell5684
      @catgladwell5684 Рік тому +2

      As a fellow Red I am daily thankful that this incredible manager has come to us. It will take some seasons for us to challenge City, with our useless owners velcroed to their seats and the dregs of former managers' teams still under contract, but Erik will get us there, whoever our new owners are. He's every bit as good a manager as Pep.

    • @Loopholeso
      @Loopholeso Рік тому

      It's not going well guys 😢

  • @martinpees
    @martinpees 2 роки тому

    About Overmars and Vd Sar; Cruyff was the one who said, you should have people who played football in your management. At the revolution at 2010, it were vd Sar, Overmars, F de Boer, Jonk and Bergkamp

  • @deanslife1
    @deanslife1 3 роки тому +19

    The disrespect for Ajax annoys me or maybe you aren't disrespecting them and just sharing your surprise Ten hag is still at Ajax. The truth is Ajax are bigger than man utd, they have more european cups/CL than them, they are bigger than man city, arsenal, spurs, chelsea and have more european success than of all of them put together. There is a great foundation at Ajax with Overmars and Van der sar runnings things nicely and Ten hag is at a big club, remember it's the league that is small, not the club, so i get annoyed with people saying "come to man utd" it makes me want a european super league, so Ajax will be in the same league as man u and co and then there will be less people saying " I am suprised he still at Ajax" Ajax are going to win the CL this season and that will really show all those of bags of money clubs.

    • @franalytics5995
      @franalytics5995 2 роки тому +1

      Can I have some of the stuff you are smoking, Ajax are not bigger than most of the teams you mentioned at all I hate it when people think they know about something

    • @franalytics5995
      @franalytics5995 2 роки тому

      Ajax are not winning the Ucl even in the next 10 years you probably are a deluded Ajax fan even Cruyff left you guys for barca

    • @Stayfocused1325
      @Stayfocused1325 2 роки тому +1

      Did you say ajax are bigger than Utd? Utd is part of the elite 4. Barca real Utd munchen

    • @deanslife1
      @deanslife1 2 роки тому

      @@Stayfocused1325 Ajax are bigger than man utd in terms of European silverware

    • @franalytics5995
      @franalytics5995 2 роки тому

      @@deanslife1 yh but three of those ucls were from the 70s they have history but over the past 20 years they've been rubbish

  • @eribaik
    @eribaik 2 роки тому

    he's got flexible approach to the game can defined united this season

  • @davidlean1060
    @davidlean1060 3 роки тому +5

    JJ commenting on Lindelof's progressive passing is, honestly, the first time I've heard anyone say Lindelof was 'very good' at anything on a pitch!

  • @kakashihatake3324
    @kakashihatake3324 3 роки тому +13

    I actually want Ajax to win champions league won’t even be mad if they do even though I’m a Liverpool fan,they really play exciting football and they always developing new talent year in year out.I can only imagine how good they would’ve been if they still had the likes of Frankie de jong,Donny van de beek and hakim ziyech 🤯😮‍💨.

    • @nielsvanpoortvliet9161
      @nielsvanpoortvliet9161 3 роки тому +4

      De ligt too, man he was so good at ajax

    • @YouthAmphia
      @YouthAmphia 3 роки тому

      it was better that they left because thats how ajax runs

    • @RvdW22
      @RvdW22 3 роки тому

      @@YouthAmphia Yah - Timber and Gravenberch aren’t what they are now If they hadn’t left…

  • @thejungwookim
    @thejungwookim 3 роки тому +12

    But why does the drawing look like Pep 🤣

  • @NotAfraidToQuestionThings
    @NotAfraidToQuestionThings 2 роки тому +1

    I'm a Dutch Ajax fan and am very pleased with Ten Hag but I think he won't succeed with a big club... maybe if it's Bayern Munich.
    His English is poor, he's a humble guy, he doesn't have the credit yet so he'd have to immediately start winning and he's used to manage small names, not superstars.
    I would be truly impressed of he would be able to lift a big club to a higher level.

  • @conormclaughlin9731
    @conormclaughlin9731 3 роки тому +2

    Ange Postecoglou video next plsssss! Nice one lads

  • @PaxBisonica89
    @PaxBisonica89 2 роки тому +1

    9:36 that's highly debatable, Ajax became champion 2 points ahead of PSV who faced feyenoord a week before in a highly controversial draw which if PSV won that game, they would have been ahead of Ajax and probably would have ended up being champions.
    And it was PSV who only 2 weeks ago beat Ajax in the cup final, so a lot being said is factually not true.

  • @tolgayardimci1669
    @tolgayardimci1669 2 роки тому

    One small thing; Ajax and Ten Hag were not playing positional play. What they were doing were against the rules of positional play most of the time, but it was for sure attractive and efficient.

  • @russdavies2268
    @russdavies2268 3 роки тому +1

    When the dreaded time comes and Pep eventually leaves us Erik Ten Haag is the perfect replacement and a natural fit.

    • @sathvic5174
      @sathvic5174 2 роки тому

      He is united bound brother with respect but obv city will have top manager

  • @drell3813
    @drell3813 3 роки тому +4

    I do find it kind of hilarious as a Watford fan that you were talking about Premier League failures and completely forgot Berghuis being an unbelievable flop for us.
    Signed him due to his form in the Eredivisie and hoped he would be this amazing creative player going forward and he couldn't even get in the team.
    Also funny how his main issue with us was being lazy defensively and now he's doing well in a high pressing team.

    • @tonymctonyps3
      @tonymctonyps3 2 роки тому

      Pressing forward vs running behind

  • @MrDriss1986
    @MrDriss1986 2 роки тому

    Ten hag was so nervous in front of the camera when he just started at ajax.
    I think overmars had a lot of faith in him from the beginnng, because he even fired a well performing trainer to get ten hag.
    Also , at this point , when ajax is in good form, which they are often, they can defeat any team in the world.
    Im sure they can hurt even man city and liverpool when on they are on their Agame

  • @gamingundco.2303
    @gamingundco.2303 3 роки тому +17

    I wish I had Ten Hag's name. It just sounds so powerful, like a Celtic spell or a the name of a important Morrowind Villanger. Every time I look in the mirror, I cry a little that that's not my name. I scream "Ten Haag" at myself when I unscrew the toothpaste tube in the evening. "Ten Haaag", I scream when I wake up and wash my face in the morning.
    Edit: I have now set everything in motion to replace my shameful name with "Ten Haaaag". My wife doesn't understand why I am doing this, but what does she know. I feel like she understands me less and less. She refuses to call me "Ten Haaaaag", no matter how many times I explain that I hate my birth name and don't want to be called that. I think she does it on purpose to humiliate me. But soon she will not be able to do otherwise, she will have to call me what my name certificate will say: Ten Haaaaaag. Soon it will be.

    • @holt253
      @holt253 2 роки тому

      In The HEDGE !!

    • @EyesArePlanets
      @EyesArePlanets 2 роки тому

      This made me laugh, well done...
      ...Ten Haaaag. :)

  • @inekechroom560
    @inekechroom560 2 роки тому +7

    All great football coaches and players are inspired by, JOHAN CRUIJFF the true master.
    Ajax would win the champions leaque many times, if there players weren't bought by foreign clubs. There academy is the best in te world.

  • @kafkaten
    @kafkaten 3 роки тому

    These opening lines are the best.

  • @mumandubula1788
    @mumandubula1788 3 роки тому +3

    Coaching this high quality Ajax with top players and management, UCL, why leave for a small team ? Bayern,Real, Barca, Atletico,PSG, Juve, Inter, Milan, City,Liverpool, Chelsea, City and Man Utd are the only teams truly big enough for Ten Haag, Utd seems like the best option at the moment it's available, plenty money, seems to be heading towards better management with Murtough and Fletcher.

    • @oldskoolmusicnostalgia
      @oldskoolmusicnostalgia 3 роки тому +2

      Those guys are idiots, they think managing Crystal Palace or Southampton is a more prestigious position than Ajax. Ajax are the Dr. Dre of football, they transformed it.

  • @shawngillogly6873
    @shawngillogly6873 3 роки тому +24

    I would suggest ETH is already a big manager. He's just happy at Ajax. So he won't move for anything but the right situation. And I think that's something that needs to be discussed. Ten Hag is a brilliant COACH. But he isn't the player acquisition guy. He's not the press face of the club. He's not the traditional English manager. He needs the Continental Structure. Because his personality isn't suited to being out front, much like Tuchel hated all the politics of PSG, and was much better off when he could just focus on coaching at Chelsea.
    The kind of club Ten Hag would thrive at isn't one that uses the English model. I don't think he'd do well at United as its currently structured (or unstructured). He would be best at a club like Bayern, with a clear front office and set transfer policy. But they just hired a manager of similar profile. Chelsea once Tuchel leaves would also be a great landing place for him. And I hate naming both of those clubs. But it is what it is. He's not a manager for a club without a clear hierarchy.

    • @tamunotamuno3564
      @tamunotamuno3564 3 роки тому +1

      what about when Rangnick is the dof?

    • @its_jawnney
      @its_jawnney 3 роки тому +4

      I agree, however, seems like with Ragnick stepping into an executive role next season United might be constructing that hierarchy for ETH to settle into

    • @shawngillogly6873
      @shawngillogly6873 3 роки тому +5

      @@tamunotamuno3564 If Rangnick is actually allowed to become DOF, with final authority to control football operations? Then that becomes a possibility.
      If Rangnick is one voice in an already overcrowded boardroom, then that's a bad job for him.

    • @tamunotamuno3564
      @tamunotamuno3564 3 роки тому +4

      @@shawngillogly6873 if rangnick isnt listened 2. He would just resign. He isnt afraid of walking away. Look at what he did at schalke. He resigned bcos they sold gustavo without his consent

    • @shawngillogly6873
      @shawngillogly6873 3 роки тому +2

      @@tamunotamuno3564 I don't disagree Rangnick would walk away. But what his "consultancy" will look like still is clear as mud.

  • @vipul3840
    @vipul3840 10 місяців тому +2

    bruno and rashford could never pull this .. let alone having maguire and evans in the back ...... no wonder why we are so bad
    \

  • @hb3393
    @hb3393 3 роки тому +4

    Gravenberch ALWAYS blows up on my FM saves, fully expect the FM elders are right on him

    • @Klaasvaak44379
      @Klaasvaak44379 3 роки тому

      They aren't, he's probably the most overrated Dutch talent since Affelay

  • @anubhav111196
    @anubhav111196 3 роки тому +9

    I want to see a video on Marco Rose's Dortmund and since his departure, mönchengladbach has suffered and will he be the perfect successor for the dreadful day Klopp leaves us

    • @oldskoolmusicnostalgia
      @oldskoolmusicnostalgia 3 роки тому +1

      Dortmund have been shocking this season. Schooled by Ajax, outsmarted by Sporting in CL. Not exactly outstanding in the Bundesliga either.

    • @anubhav111196
      @anubhav111196 3 роки тому

      @@oldskoolmusicnostalgia yeah, don't know what happened to Dortmund, they need good defenders and good CDMs too

    • @alexsupertramp5600
      @alexsupertramp5600 2 роки тому

      @@anubhav111196 Injuries happened. A lot of them, and they're already quite thin on some spots, and the squad was already quite imbalanced coming out of the transfer period.

  • @mariosimas
    @mariosimas 3 роки тому +2

    you shoul also do a video analysis on Ruben Amorim from Sporting Club of Portugal. only 36 yeas old.

    • @DanieloLobo
      @DanieloLobo 3 роки тому +1

      Won the league in his first season coaching!

  • @za-ky7il
    @za-ky7il 3 роки тому +4

    Erik Ten Hag at Manchester City would be interesting to watch. I mean we all saw what he did to rebuild Ajax. Imagine Erik Ten Hag at City after Pep set a philosophy on how to play which links to Ten Hag's style of play. Not only that but this time he will have a large budget at his disposal. The perfect Pep Guardiola replacement.
    I don't really see him at United as the way United play wouldn't really suit Ten Hag. The likes of Pochettino or Brendan Rodgers would be suitable for United rather than Erik Ten Hag, he be better of to manage Man City.
    edit: Ralf Ragnick is also suitable for United if you see how United play compared to when Ole was in charge (ignore match vs wolves).

  • @TheBusbyBabes
    @TheBusbyBabes 3 роки тому

    the intros are always great :D

  • @jamesjeffery2656
    @jamesjeffery2656 2 роки тому

    Great video but I think there could be some improvements. In a lot of Tifo videos you go over concepts such as positional play and high pressing. Here for example positional play was mentioned and kind of explained but not fully. I know I've seen Tifo videos in the past where you have gone into more depth. So what you could do is for example say Ajax are great at positional play, a one sentence summary ('player's movements on the pitch are structured according to maintaining strict spatial distribution') and then link to the in depth video. This way you don't repeat yourselves every time, are guaranteed to fully explain the concept and then have more time to talk about Ajax.
    The other thing I would mention about this Ajax side and which you did to a certain extent is emphasise firstly just how good the defence is at playing the ball. You saw at the Euros that almost all of Holland's build up was through Blind, the man just has incredible vision and can put the ball on a 10c piece with his left foot. Martinez is similarly talented. Blind's clear and obvious drawbacks in his speed and overall physicality are made up by Alvarez's tackling and tenacity. I think all of Ajax's younger members have futures at Europe's top clubs, but in an age where CBs' ability to pass is becoming more and more important, Martinez is one to watch imo.

  • @glenrobinson10
    @glenrobinson10 3 роки тому +31

    He could very well be to Manchester United what Klopp was to Liverpool & Pep was to Manchester City.

    • @CaptainCreampie69
      @CaptainCreampie69 3 роки тому +2

      😂🤣😂That United team are hopeless. The only players worthy of that jersey are Ronnie and Fernandes. Rashford should’ve been a spectacular player by now but as is usual, English players are over hyped.

    • @za-ky7il
      @za-ky7il 3 роки тому

      You don't think of the way United play. It doesn't really suit United's style of play and the players they have in key positions that Pep/Erik Ten Hag priorities. Pochettino or even Brendan Rodgers or even Ralf Ragnick are perfect for United. Look at Ralf compared to Ole. The changes are showing in the player's attitude (well not for every player such as the ones with big egos but in time they will).

    • @phillyrockz
      @phillyrockz 3 роки тому +2

      Erik is definitely not leaving Ajax for that Circus. The United fanbase needs to let go and move on. It's not happening.

    • @sathvic5174
      @sathvic5174 2 роки тому

      @@phillyrockz did he told u stop the cap even romano said erik might leave for united if united offer love u hate tho

    • @KEN-tf9sr
      @KEN-tf9sr 2 роки тому

      @@za-ky7il man utd need to adapt in order to succeed man utd need to change

  • @donalex7553
    @donalex7553 3 роки тому

    3:41 depay is 3rd at most key passes ?

  • @PresidentSquigglyMiggly
    @PresidentSquigglyMiggly 3 роки тому +2

    Seb Haller had the movement of a fence post at West ham, can't believe he's pressing and scoring goals now

  • @aaronshibu1450
    @aaronshibu1450 3 роки тому +1

    Can anyone tell me what website or app that tifo is using on the football tactical pad? I would really be grateful if you helped, thank you.

  • @lukemusto896
    @lukemusto896 3 роки тому +2

    Would be interesting to see how you would recommend playing against this system. Other than having the best players in the world, how would you tactically look to counteract this system

    • @abdullahlangcua6210
      @abdullahlangcua6210 2 роки тому +1

      The best way is probably a Mourinho-like park the bus tactic like the smaller clubs do in the Netherlands lately when they play against Ajax. Ajax have lost quite a few points in the first half of this season because of teams that play like that.

  • @kierran5021
    @kierran5021 3 роки тому +1

    I don't care what Joe and JJ talk about in these videos. 1) It's fantastically insightful 2) the absolute apathy both display at different point in regards to differing point and issues is the best chemistry since the covid vaccine was put together

  • @abdellahafkir
    @abdellahafkir 3 роки тому +1

    There is one thing for sure. If Ten Hag gets the Manchester United job, given the fact that he prob. needs 3 or 4 years and pulls it off... He'll be a legendary manager and pure top class

  • @jarvis911
    @jarvis911 3 роки тому

    Your intros crack me up!

  • @benjaminkuhn2878
    @benjaminkuhn2878 3 роки тому

    Has Joe been to the football tactics bootcamp? He knows the words now.

  • @mikegreen3485
    @mikegreen3485 3 роки тому +1

    According to the credits, Alex was in this video? Very convincing JJ costume

  • @StanleyNjoroge-v5w
    @StanleyNjoroge-v5w 4 місяці тому +4

    Right now they are making fun of him

  • @chinonsoonwunaje7180
    @chinonsoonwunaje7180 2 роки тому +1

    Well he's the Manager of Manchester United now 💯💯💯

  • @strawhatbraw
    @strawhatbraw 2 роки тому

    God, the opening cracked me up.

  • @mvanzijderveld3826
    @mvanzijderveld3826 2 роки тому +1

    Aged nicely

  • @matthewross1494
    @matthewross1494 3 роки тому

    Great content. Shame you can’t use footage as examples. Keep up the great analysis.

  • @slmtz2458
    @slmtz2458 3 роки тому

    One of the best managers

  • @gamesinperfection
    @gamesinperfection 3 роки тому

    KNVB should now talk to Ten hag and make him the coach after Louis van Gaal for the dutch national team

  • @RV-sx9tt
    @RV-sx9tt 2 роки тому

    He already reached that point

  • @MrSjoerdwitteveen
    @MrSjoerdwitteveen 3 роки тому

    Cool crew it is!!

  • @Pur3picness12
    @Pur3picness12 3 роки тому +4

    I'm very interested in this goblin conversation

  • @adityaup14
    @adityaup14 2 роки тому

    So if we (Manutd) appoint ETH we are gng back to the LVG era.. where multi functional players are required instead of Mou's positional expert players?😐

  • @duoose5395
    @duoose5395 2 роки тому +1

    the overmars "cool lads" thing has not aged well

  • @zefe3886
    @zefe3886 2 роки тому

    You will hear that ten hag is not proven and eredivisie is a farmer's league. But with the players ten hag have in Ajax, bare in mind, none of Ajax current players are world class and most of them are either raw young talents or flop players in other leagues. Ten Hag made them play like they are class, even in the champions league. His tactic is top notch. If he is given the opportunity to manage a bigger club, he can be in the same class as pep and klopp. Have watched all Ajax games under him and his tactics are really that good. His in games tactics are good as well, changing according to the opponent and how the game progresses.

  • @Nefariousbig
    @Nefariousbig 3 роки тому

    You know how if you hold a seashell up to your ear they say you can hear the sea?
    If you hold Joe Devine up to your ear you can hear Albatross by Fleetwood Mac

  • @yellow6ird
    @yellow6ird 3 роки тому

    Please do one on Ange Postecoglou at Celtic.

  • @aomoussynonymous8712
    @aomoussynonymous8712 3 роки тому

    14:53 its a silly point repeated time & again because no player should be given importance over a club and its unlikely that the top teams will let their elite coaches join our club so if we can't get a top coach who plays attacking football Manchester United will need to hire an upcoming coach. Best City players will respect ten Hag and best United players won't these statements are absolutely preposterous.

  • @Xavyer13
    @Xavyer13 3 роки тому

    LoL the intertext at the start XD

  • @HJB.23
    @HJB.23 2 роки тому +1

    The Overmars' comment aged well :/

  • @Mauri-jb9up
    @Mauri-jb9up 3 роки тому +2

    Ten Hag would be perfect for Liverpool after Klopp leaves in 2024

  • @otto_jk
    @otto_jk 3 роки тому +6

    Erik Ten/Ten Hag

  • @QazwerDave
    @QazwerDave 3 роки тому +3

    Who takes over after Klopp ?
    This guy ?

  • @deanslife1
    @deanslife1 3 роки тому

    I am not going to watch this as I love Ajax and I love what Ten hag is doing with them, no doubt you will say he could go to the prem and manage a big 6 club and that he has been linked to a big club like man utd, well Ajax are a big club and a more successful club in Europe than them but if you talk about ten hag winning the CL with Ajax this season and do it again next season then I will listen

  • @agdgdgwngo
    @agdgdgwngo 2 роки тому

    TBH I remember Tadic as scoring some niche goals for Southampton

  • @lucastegers
    @lucastegers 3 роки тому

    Joe around 9:30 ….. currently Ajax arent leading the Eredivisie. People should stop talking about Ajax when they dont tell the whole story…. I mean Ajax played Madrid in the 18/19 rounds of 16…. Like atleast put some effort in the story you are trying to tell.
    To give an example about Ajax their centerbacks giving progressive passes the first goal in the away game against Besiktas… Martinez played a ball across 30-40 meters that cut straight through 3 lines off Besiktas.
    As an Ajax fan I have always loved TIFO for their Ajax related content. But this just feels lazy!

  • @casadelosotte
    @casadelosotte 3 роки тому +2

    Chanceless discussion to see foreigners trying to understand the way we Dutch look at football. Those players are not failures, their managers did not let them play in their power. Is like using Usain Bolt as a swimmer and say he sucks. Who sucks? The one that lets him swim, obviously.

  • @manojku232
    @manojku232 2 роки тому

    Watching this after Man Utd Vs Liverpool game. Ten Hag is good at what he does. To be fair, you cannot say Glazers didn't spend on the squad. Actually they did but it was done by Non Football people. As Jose said "Man Utd lack structure in its management to be a modern football team". If Glazers wanted Man Utd on top of the world they should leave everything to the people who knew what they were doing. Their tendency to micro manage everything inside the club has destroyed it completely. It's time they leave things to people like Darren, Ten Hag, and etc.

  • @pruthvi5
    @pruthvi5 3 роки тому

    What app they are using on that screen??