Thanks for posting the RX-8 again. I’d love to see you find the sweet spot between tire size, grip and suspension setup. The sliding looked very fun. My RX-8 has much more grip on the track. Toyo R888R tires and function form type 3 coil overs make a world of difference. Keep working on fine tuning it please! Film the new mods and progress, make us RX-8 owners proud! Hahaha!
I ran this exactly how I have it for the street. Tires would certainly change a lot but that's not my intention for this car. I want to be able to hook safely on the street.
@@TheSlipAngle Goodyear eagle F1 supersport in 245/40R18 are crazy tires both in dry and surprisingly on wet. I daily that and its such an upgrade to any other that I tried (including mich ps4)... But yes grip is not equal to more fun :)
This is the car that brought me to your channel doing the header install. It’s always good to see the Rx8. A V6 mustang, doesn’t fit in on the track or the dragstrip. LOL
Thank you for these wonderful images of your rx-8 sliding around! I also daily my Series2 rx-8 and I love how much fun you can have on the streets without being at irrational high speeds
Seeing you in the Rx8 always makes me click faster than ever !!! I am sure you know this already , but that close hairpin brings out the factory induced under steer the RX8's are known for. You can do certain things to get rid of that ... Also please note that the more tyre you give it, both in width and compound the RX8 can fully utilize it no problems ... Your time will dramatically drop once you add serious levels of grip ... Its not the slowest of your cars especially in such a tight course , i can guarantee that ;)
It's just a deficiency of the Achilles ATR Sport 2s. They are low grip tires and this track in particular really heats the fronts up. Once that happens it's understeer city for most cars. A grippier tire would dial a lot of that out but I wouldn't be able to play with the chassis in oversteer either so it's give and take lol
My 8s a garage queen, I do maybe 3000kms per year in it. I mostly drive my wrx which has cool noises and a bunch more power...... but the 8 driving dynamics, seating position and the front wheel arch look from the drivers seat is something else. And who doesn’t like to rev to 9k rpm!
8s are fantanstic cars, amazing balance and proper fast laptime with decent tune and a weightcut, I think the time will be much better if proper rubbers were used.
Awesome video as always, love the project GR8 daily stuff! Great insight into everything Quinn and also gorgeous shots by Matchew. Easily my favourite youtube channel. Btw love that you used Empire Seasons song for the sliding shot and telemetry data part, just like in the intro of the RX8 spotlight episode. I like details like that haha. It kind of became RX8 theme song for me, I listen to it sometimes when I drive mine 😂. Keep it up guys!
I'm glad you put that warning up because I was thinking 'watch out for that...is he gonna slow...why would he do that?! lol'. I can totally understand the adrenaline especially with an accomplished driver though. ANYWAY, thanks for sharing more rotary music with us! You've done such a great job with that car (and your others). 👌
Love your work. What do you think of adding 'Ultimate Driver balance testing' to your title. I think it would affect your marketing in an immeasurable way.
Rx8 is definetly a great car. It does appear that the tires were struggling for grip. I believe that of the rotary and v6 rx8 had the same tires the rotary car would be faster. With that said I think it I think it would be very close. Brap on
They are low grip Achilles for fun on the street. They don't like being overheated. Street driving totally fun, balanced and not nearly as much understeer. It's all in the heat.
Wow, mustang tried to get you twice. Which is strange since Mustangs never spin out or crash being they have a reputation as such stable cars. Nice video! Would love to see more RX8 focused stuff.
An ajustable sway bar could be nice to get some more rotation for this type of track, and then have it softer for faster tracks or the road. Looks like hilarious fun on the low grip tyres in the end, seems pretty well matched for the ammount of power available. To much grip and flat out everywhere isn't necessarily more fun, even if its faster.
i wonder if a properly done K swap would affect the balance a lot, somewhat keeps the character while providing reliability, if COG remained low and centered, I'd honestly consider getting one
Did you ever tweak the alignment at all from the previous video? Getting mine adjusted shortly and struggling to find decent figures to aim for anywhere. Much conflict in RX8 land.
I did my first track day on the atr sport 2s and i definitely didnt get them hot enough. So they held up fine. For my next one i plan to take my fds 17s with some federal 595s on them That should be better right? Car feels so good in the corners. This vid pumped me up!
Loved seeing the 8 again! Your wheel color is perfect for the car. I'm trying to find good shades of brown/bronze for my wheels right now. I have sparkling black mica paint. I know you've saved some weight in the 8 with a lighter battery and probably wheels, but have you considered lighter seats? Maybe not because it's your comfortable DD.. The GT seats are something like 86 lbs each 😅
Looking for a suspension for a good mix of beat up NYC streets and smooth canyon roads. Any suggestions? I feel ohlins will be a waste of money for this. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks
The Teins would be okay if only they were a little higher spring rates. I don't have a good in between recommendation but I also am not up to snuff with everything else out there. I'll probably eventually move to Ohlins but I don't put a lot of miles on this car so until then I'll just continue dealing with the Teins bottoming out the rears every now and then lol
This thing seems like an absolute blast. My daily got wrecked so my rx8 fund has sadly turned in to a "cheap, reliable and sort of fun daily" fund. But.....ONE day.
They are low grip Achilles ATR Sport 2 for fun on the street. They don't like being overheated. Street driving totally fun, balanced and not nearly as much understeer. It's all in the heat.
I wonder how good a Renesis 20B would be. The extra displacement helping to compensate for the lack of overlap/low speed torque. Would you still have to rev it to the limiter to squeeze power out of it? Probably. But just imagine the sound!
@@Icemann336 You have to understand first what differentiates a Renesis from a “standard” 20B or even a 13B. The exhaust ports on a Renesis are not in the rotor housings, they are in the side housings. The 20B has a “fat” iron/side housing because of how the intake ports are arranged, and there was never a production Renesis 20B, so there is no Renesis fat iron. So you need a 20B eccentric shaft (not impossible to find) but you also need a “one of” Renesis fat iron and you need to find someone who cares enough to make you one. People have made a 20B Renesis without that 20B iron, but one rotor gets screwed with 2 small intake ports and worse, 2 small Siamese exhaust ports.
Fantastic RX8. You definitely need some better tires or you have some suspension geometry issues, an RX8 should not understeer like this :). My hillclimb RX8 handles like on rails, but I'm using full soft slicks Yoko A005.
They are low grip Achilles ATR Sport 2 for fun on the street. They don't like being overheated. Street driving totally fun, balanced and not nearly as much understeer. It's all in the heat.
@@tylerhackman6832 i feel you... i am around 3.25 and maybe a bit more since the car is hella low ... i couldnt stand the understeer on stock alignment settings ... the rx8/nc platform is really underrated and only shines when you do certain things ... then it can make 400hp cars look slow on track !!! The NC for me is the best MX5 of all and hate it when fanboys that know shit of real track work call it off with poor arguments ...
@@TheSlipAngle for sure, you could sew the balance of the car was great but the tires especially the fronts just had absolutely nothing left to give the car
You're not saving much money over having a pro budget rebuild it unless you get lucky and just need to replace one seal or two. I'd rather look for a good car and engine for not much more money.
Mazda knows, doesn't have to be the highest HP, fastest car out there to be the best car to drive. Great video
Very true!
The car sounds so good, especially the outside shots, "The Crowd Killer" got real close to you wow! Keep up the great vid posting!
lol thank you brother
Drifts look addictive! Nice to see the RX8 again 👍
Thanks buddy 👍
Thanks for posting the RX-8 again. I’d love to see you find the sweet spot between tire size, grip and suspension setup. The sliding looked very fun. My RX-8 has much more grip on the track. Toyo R888R tires and function form type 3 coil overs make a world of difference. Keep working on fine tuning it please! Film the new mods and progress, make us RX-8 owners proud! Hahaha!
I ran this exactly how I have it for the street. Tires would certainly change a lot but that's not my intention for this car. I want to be able to hook safely on the street.
More grip is not always more fun :)
@@TheSlipAngle Goodyear eagle F1 supersport in 245/40R18 are crazy tires both in dry and surprisingly on wet. I daily that and its such an upgrade to any other that I tried (including mich ps4)... But yes grip is not equal to more fun :)
This is the car that brought me to your channel doing the header install. It’s always good to see the Rx8. A V6 mustang, doesn’t fit in on the track or the dragstrip. LOL
lol. Awesome brother!
Thank you for these wonderful images of your rx-8 sliding around! I also daily my Series2 rx-8 and I love how much fun you can have on the streets without being at irrational high speeds
Anytime man, thank you for watching!
Seeing you in the Rx8 always makes me click faster than ever !!! I am sure you know this already , but that close hairpin brings out the factory induced under steer the RX8's are known for. You can do certain things to get rid of that ... Also please note that the more tyre you give it, both in width and compound the RX8 can fully utilize it no problems ... Your time will dramatically drop once you add serious levels of grip ... Its not the slowest of your cars especially in such a tight course , i can guarantee that ;)
Can you detail some of the things you can do to reduce that understeer?
It's just a deficiency of the Achilles ATR Sport 2s. They are low grip tires and this track in particular really heats the fronts up. Once that happens it's understeer city for most cars. A grippier tire would dial a lot of that out but I wouldn't be able to play with the chassis in oversteer either so it's give and take lol
My 8s a garage queen, I do maybe 3000kms per year in it. I mostly drive my wrx which has cool noises and a bunch more power...... but the 8 driving dynamics, seating position and the front wheel arch look from the drivers seat is something else. And who doesn’t like to rev to 9k rpm!
Love the sound and how balance it is! I use to have mine as a daily and I really miss it! Keep the good content.
Thank you!
Good driving. The exhaust note is nice. Cool car.
8s are fantanstic cars, amazing balance and proper fast laptime with decent tune and a weightcut, I think the time will be much better if proper rubbers were used.
and this track is probably too small for the rx8 too, it's the high speed corners where the 8 can unleash his potential.
tires are everything, if you care about lap times
Awesome video as always, love the project GR8 daily stuff! Great insight into everything Quinn and also gorgeous shots by Matchew. Easily my favourite youtube channel.
Btw love that you used Empire Seasons song for the sliding shot and telemetry data part, just like in the intro of the RX8 spotlight episode. I like details like that haha. It kind of became RX8 theme song for me, I listen to it sometimes when I drive mine 😂.
Keep it up guys!
Thank you brother!
I'm glad you put that warning up because I was thinking 'watch out for that...is he gonna slow...why would he do that?! lol'. I can totally understand the adrenaline especially with an accomplished driver though.
ANYWAY, thanks for sharing more rotary music with us! You've done such a great job with that car (and your others). 👌
Thanks for watching!
Love to see the Mazda RX8.... Handle so well on the track!!! Rotary baby :D
Yeah brother!
Rx8 looks so good under rotation!!!I need one just scared of rotaries
With a little common sense and knowledge of the issues they are totally doable
My favorite series👍🔥 Want one of these so bad
That RX8 sounds like my vacuum cleaner trying to get the last bruschetta crumbs out of the fucking carpet. Jokes aside, Great stuff as always.
lol
Love your work. What do you think of adding 'Ultimate Driver balance testing' to your title. I think it would affect your marketing in an immeasurable way.
Rx8 is definetly a great car. It does appear that the tires were struggling for grip. I believe that of the rotary and v6 rx8 had the same tires the rotary car would be faster. With that said I think it I think it would be very close. Brap on
They are low grip Achilles for fun on the street. They don't like being overheated. Street driving totally fun, balanced and not nearly as much understeer. It's all in the heat.
did you say v6 rx8?
@@michaelwielenga8809 the red rx8 had a lfx v6 swap out of a newer camaro i believe
@@c.badalucco oohh i see
Thank you for your work and I do love the looks of your S1!
Thank you brother
Wow, mustang tried to get you twice. Which is strange since Mustangs never spin out or crash being they have a reputation as such stable cars. Nice video! Would love to see more RX8 focused stuff.
So weird right?!
Love the rx8 content! After watching your vids decided to get one last year..I'm in Bristol CT
Awesome brother! Is it purple?
@@TheSlipAngle it's phantom blue mica
Clearly an experienced racer who’s been around spun cars, stayed calm and moved past the incident.
Not my first rodeo lol
Cleanest Rx-8 on UA-cam!
Thank you!
An ajustable sway bar could be nice to get some more rotation for this type of track, and then have it softer for faster tracks or the road. Looks like hilarious fun on the low grip tyres in the end, seems pretty well matched for the ammount of power available. To much grip and flat out everywhere isn't necessarily more fun, even if its faster.
Rx8 is still a well-balanced car, You need to turbo it to get the torque numbers up. Make it your next series project.........
20b would be nice :)
i wonder if a properly done K swap would affect the balance a lot, somewhat keeps the character while providing reliability, if COG remained low and centered, I'd honestly consider getting one
@@TheSlipAngle rocketeer v6 would be awesome conversion
Love the sound of that lil revvy 13B
Finally seeing this beauty on the channel :)
When is the PP 13B miata coming?
Very soon!
Did you ever tweak the alignment at all from the previous video? Getting mine adjusted shortly and struggling to find decent figures to aim for anywhere. Much conflict in RX8 land.
Same alignment as before
I did my first track day on the atr sport 2s and i definitely didnt get them hot enough. So they held up fine.
For my next one i plan to take my fds 17s with some federal 595s on them
That should be better right?
Car feels so good in the corners.
This vid pumped me up!
how is your passenger dash not
crack? 😂
Climate control garage kept. ::fingers crossed::
Loved seeing the 8 again! Your wheel color is perfect for the car. I'm trying to find good shades of brown/bronze for my wheels right now. I have sparkling black mica paint. I know you've saved some weight in the 8 with a lighter battery and probably wheels, but have you considered lighter seats? Maybe not because it's your comfortable DD.. The GT seats are something like 86 lbs each 😅
I had, but I really like the look and comfort of the GT seats. Plus heat! lol
@@TheSlipAngle I agree they are great stock seats. Oh, and I double checked and the weight of a GT seat is closer to ~55 lbs
Looking for a suspension for a good mix of beat up NYC streets and smooth canyon roads. Any suggestions? I feel ohlins will be a waste of money for this. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks
The Teins would be okay if only they were a little higher spring rates. I don't have a good in between recommendation but I also am not up to snuff with everything else out there. I'll probably eventually move to Ohlins but I don't put a lot of miles on this car so until then I'll just continue dealing with the Teins bottoming out the rears every now and then lol
uhhhhh that looks incredible
Thank you brother!
This thing seems like an absolute blast.
My daily got wrecked so my rx8 fund has sadly turned in to a "cheap, reliable and sort of fun daily" fund.
But.....ONE day.
great footage
Glad you liked it!
Music chill af too
looks understeer on entry, and over on exit. is it caused by old tires or setup?
They are low grip Achilles ATR Sport 2 for fun on the street. They don't like being overheated. Street driving totally fun, balanced and not nearly as much understeer. It's all in the heat.
Happy to see the 8 again 🤘🤘🤘
Whats about the Shorai Battery you installed earlier, still works fine?
On number 3 lol. Don't let them over discharge
I wonder how good a Renesis 20B would be.
The extra displacement helping to compensate for the lack of overlap/low speed torque.
Would you still have to rev it to the limiter to squeeze power out of it? Probably.
But just imagine the sound!
The one and only 20B Renesis was in the Furai that went up in flames. It would be interesting, though.
@@VictorMPR
I'm sure somebody has made a replica 20B E-shaft before. No doubt after that it's just finding an extra rotor, housings and other bits
@@Icemann336 You have to understand first what differentiates a Renesis from a “standard” 20B or even a 13B. The exhaust ports on a Renesis are not in the rotor housings, they are in the side housings. The 20B has a “fat” iron/side housing because of how the intake ports are arranged, and there was never a production Renesis 20B, so there is no Renesis fat iron. So you need a 20B eccentric shaft (not impossible to find) but you also need a “one of” Renesis fat iron and you need to find someone who cares enough to make you one. People have made a 20B Renesis without that 20B iron, but one rotor gets screwed with 2 small intake ports and worse, 2 small Siamese exhaust ports.
I still think a custom rotrex setup would be a perfect fit for these cars.
Fantastic RX8. You definitely need some better tires or you have some suspension geometry issues, an RX8 should not understeer like this :). My hillclimb RX8 handles like on rails, but I'm using full soft slicks Yoko A005.
I think he has shitty tires on it since it's more fun in street driving :)
They are low grip Achilles ATR Sport 2 for fun on the street. They don't like being overheated. Street driving totally fun, balanced and not nearly as much understeer. It's all in the heat.
The gr yards g16 gts engine in a Rx8 would be killer.
What colour is the car? Black or is it deep crystal blue?
Brilliant Black
well a good mod is to replace the seats and saloon to a textile one. It weights significantly less.
I like my seat heaters :)
Can you guys test the gr86?
Matchew has one on order, so yes
Watching this vid makes me not want to sell my rx8
Don't do it! lol
YAY!!!! 🥰
Rx8 alignment specs?
-2.8 F -2.2 R, 1/16th toe in F and R, whatever we ended up with for caster at those specs.
@@TheSlipAngle REALLY GOTTA THROW SOME STICKY RUBBER ON HER AND GIVE HER A PROPER RUN AT LEADER BOARD TOO :)
Saw more of that mustang's headlights than tail lights 😆
lol
What tyres are on it?
Cheap Achilles ATR Sport 2. Fun on the street bad on track with heat management as you can see
Rx8 / NC need ALL the front camber. -3 or more. Otherwise they love to push.
You sir know your shit ;)
@@versus4582 haha, well I battled this for a while with my NC. Mazda offset bushings finally got me to -3 and now it’s a new car on track.
@@tylerhackman6832 i feel you... i am around 3.25 and maybe a bit more since the car is hella low ... i couldnt stand the understeer on stock alignment settings ... the rx8/nc platform is really underrated and only shines when you do certain things ... then it can make 400hp cars look slow on track !!! The NC for me is the best MX5 of all and hate it when fanboys that know shit of real track work call it off with poor arguments ...
-2.8 F here but these tires wash out pretty quickly with heat. On the street they are fine, not nearly as much understeer under normal temps.
@@TheSlipAngle for sure, you could sew the balance of the car was great but the tires especially the fronts just had absolutely nothing left to give the car
Is it worth buying a cheap non-running RX8 and teaching myself to rebuild/replace the engine? Does anyone know how that works out, financially?
You're not saving much money over having a pro budget rebuild it unless you get lucky and just need to replace one seal or two.
I'd rather look for a good car and engine for not much more money.
I'd buy the cleanest example you can afford because a blown engine car will properly have other things that were neglected or hacked.
tires are def useless for track times but great for slidin
Fo Sho
If you get bored of the wheels....send them to me for my Mazda 3....
Fun fun fun..
N x
Poetic justice that it's a mustang that spun out
its always a mustang!!! maybe stiffen up the rear better tires and pads? also REW swap....
Nah it's a street car. I don't care about lap times
No helmet required on this track? wow
Yeah and it's wonderful
Na 20b 😎
yes!
@@TheSlipAngle that’s my dream too I’ll stay posted
do it again with better tires.
Nah, these tires are plenty fun on the street where you don't get them nearly as hot or have the fronts wash out. It's a daily, not a track car.
always a mustang that spin out or crashes
That was a lot of work for a mediocre lap. But a good test of your skills…except for flying past a spun car. NO NO!!!
A lot of work but very fun. Eh that Mustang was doing that all day and I got tired of it.
You should turbo k swap this bad girl
20b :)
I love the 2nd -> 3rd shift fireballs
:)