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While I totally understand and agree with the Sebring slander, it is - dead serious - the ONLY TRACK IN FLORIDA THAT ISN'T AN OVAL. It is quite literally the most diverse, unique racing this state has to offer. Which is pretty pathetic, but I will ironically defend it with my life and unironically not defend it at all.
@@TomoG4ch4_Alan94 Nope. Homestead International, Freedom Factory, Orlando Speed World (latter 2 also have a drag strip), New Smyrna Raceway - just the notable picks from a long list of ovals here, most of the rest of which are tiny dirt ones. Good luck finding anything else that isn't a standalone drag strip, BMX, or go-kart track...or Sebring, of course.
I thought he'd stick specifically to F and E class. I thought this would be really hard - but then he was upgrading past E class and I realized this won't even be a problem
It's not that it would've been hard, just really boring for the stream audience. This is because of the way Forza 4 scales the prize money by race distance, Dustin would've had to grind the same three races over and over.
Yup, they even earned themselves a reputation in Colombia where they were sold as the Nissan "March" as quite the cheap but go fast car. People put turbos on them, and there is even a racing series that is dedicated exclusively to the Micra.
Doing a challenge on FM4 is so refreshing. It really is the best FM game to do this. I don't think the career modes of the latter games could support procedural narrative like setting up your own challenges. When I played FM7 the career mode felt so restrictive and I couldn't buy or build what I wanted to do.
That Suzuki was built by the same guy who built the Escudo, Nobuhiro "Monster" Tajima so it can really be called the Escudo's grandchild. It was the first car to break the 10 minute mark at Pikes Peak in 2011. It also made an appearance in Granturismo 6 along with Tajima's custom electric Pikes Peak car called the E-Runner. I recommend you try it out if you play GT6.
To add to that, Tejima works at Suzuki and was one of the designers of a normal SX4. Said car is also a light homologation special for WRC, featuring Swift Sport's engine (Europe) and AWD (2.0 engine in USA). It is also driveable only in Forza Motorsport 4 in its stock form, GT5 and 6 have only the rally car and the Pikes Peak versions.
All jokes aside i love your editor's work man,seriously the editing makes these videos genuinely tens of times more enjoyable and funnier with the memes and little funny bits and such.
Fun video! I should add: There is a small collection of E class cars in Forza Motorsport 2023, with the lowest PI I've seen being 181, and half a dozen more still under 250. Certainly no FM4 variety, but it's something!
>hating on the new Forza's car level system which requires to drive a car before upgrading it >"Right! Fuck! Before we upgrade a car, we should drive it first!" the duality of man
I just want to say good job as usual to Dustin and big props to James' editing skills, I simply love the sense of humour of you two guys. I don't know why watching these videos is so funny, I love them :D
@@JesseGTthe graphics are a mess. I’ve had maybe 2 or 3 times where I’ve genuinely thought the game looked great, after playing for multiple hours. I’m making myself suffer through the campaign for the reward cars. The game looks so flat most of the time. Broken reflections, broken textures, unrealistically blurry movements, etc. What a fkn mess. I’ve been playing Forza since I was a little kid back in 2005 on the OG Xbox. Oh, how the great have fallen…. So glad I didn’t pay for this, I’ve just been playing through Game Pass.
Did FM4 really look this good? It has been over 10 years since I played this last time and I'm surprised. In addition to the graphics the gameplay also seems overall good. No wonder this is beloved.
Relatively little known tip in this game, once you got the 100% discount with BMW you could also have sold all the upgrades on the 2002 for credits then re-installed them for free.
No joking, the Cheverolet Aveo with rwd swap and a LS1 v8 is a beast of a car and handles surprisingly well. That would be a fun car to try this with if you do it again.
8:10 people were begging for this wing to change because it’s the same since the original game now people say it looks so much better😭 i love hindsight
To explain The SX4 Yes. it IS a Descendant of the Escudo. Kind of. You see the Escudo and The SX4 Are Pikes Peak Altered cars created for the...Aforementioned Pikes Peak Hill Climb for the same person: Nobuhiro Tajima
Lmfao the kuru edit with the golf at 25m was so good hahaha. This has probably been one of my favourite videos of yours. I like that you kept damage on too. Kept it interesting. Lots of new ideas for playthroughs and challenge runs now.
God the nostalgia from seeing this game… I remember when I first played it on my xbox 360 I was about 7 at at the time and LORD did I love just going into the autoshop and buying 10 of the same car each with different designs lol! (I didnt know you could save decals back then)
I don't even play racing games that often, but I just love watching Eden and Kuru playing them. And also due to how often Eden's editors use Persona BGMs for videos, sometimes watching one of these videos reminds me that I need to finish my New Game+ save files at some point, gotta grind for that 100% compendium completion amirite Edit: ALSO, who else is hyped for Persona 3 Reloaded?!?!
I literally just bought a peugot 107 irl for my first car, and seeing it racing around here is hilarious! It is not the fastest car in the world, but get in the right gear and that thing will take off!
I support the Micra choice, since i have a 2013 Micra SR (here is called March SR, and I don't know if you guys have this exact version out there). This version got some "bodykit". Using the 1.6 engine, this have a decent performance for the price point, and with some love, maybe you can do even more
Ever since I got the game for Christmas 2023, and I saw your comment, I then proceeded to do your challenge, where I had to earn 10 million credits using only F, E, and D-Class cars, as your comment said. Therefore, I did that. On March 19th, I finally completed the challenge. I have officially earned 10 million credits using only F, E, and D-Class cars. It took me about three and a half months to do this, so the third part where I have to earn 100 million credits using only F, E, D, and C-Class cars is really hard and really long and stressful. So, I can not do that, but thanks for the challenge suggestion. If Dustineden does the same challenge that you just suggested on Forza Motorsport 4, I should go tell him that I did it first while he's doing this on UA-cam, and it's OK if he does this too. Remember, anyone can do the 'Can You Earn/Can You Beat' challenges, even me. But in conclusion, I finally earned 10,000,000 credits using only F, E, and D Class cars.
The Suzuka sx4 also had a fiat equivalent called the Sedeci. My dad had one in a sandy gold colour and I thought it was so cool as it was a 4x4. Man it was ugly looking back 😂
Okay, screw it, my ADHD is gonna speak out its mind, and I'm gonna fucking let it do it. I want a video game... where you LITTERARLY start from the VERY beginning, you don't pick a brand new car like you do in Forza 4, but you litterarly take a bare, rusted up junker from the junkyard, earning money by deliverying pizzas and other odd jobs, and once you have have your car driveable with the parts you find from the junkyard, you race around with it, and then when you manage to earn enough cash from winning races, you can either buy a beater car which is more reliable than the car you picked from the junkyard, OR you can keep using your junker by spending more money on better parts that breaks less and gives your car more performance. And then you keep grinding for money, and you buy a better car or upgrade your car even more, and finally after MONTHS of playing the game, you finally reach the top league where you use legit racecars like stock cars, single seater cars, and prototype cars to use in races. (And if you're VERY slim on cash, and you keep losing races, then you can just keep doing pizza deliveries & other odd jobs in order to earn some money to buy that one part you need in order to win races again.) Give me that kind of game, and I will be able to die a happy man!
38:00 I see you are a man of culture as well 😎Nice Rayman Arena plug. (Their best game btw, Rayman 3 is a close second) (Edit: And clearly a fan of Sonic X3)
I've been really slacking on warching this but glad to have caught the first few hours live. I absolutely love the city cars in this game since they often produced such close racing, the Smart ForTwo in particular is my favourite but unfortunately that was DLC. I did miss you getting kerbed however lmao, there's a lot of them in this game and even later entries that are absolutely lethal if you're running race suspension. I've still got Trauma from Sebring due to the Endurance Race there in FM7, was the last showcase I needed and what a chore it was. The Auto-Upgrade in the modern Forza Horizons is even more funky, it sometimes puts cars on Drift Suspension since it technically improved stats but you can guess the results. I've always loved the 2002 so I'm really glad it was the MVP of the endgame, super fun to drive in the modern games too. That Suzuki is the successor to the Escudo and unfortunately it has never returned in any of the newer titles so it's exclusive DLC for FM4.
So, for the most part, just a normal Tuesday for me when it comes to gameplay at least. I don't aim for money that much, but I do tend to prefer making slower cars be absolute units.
I got to go to the Sebring for the sro America weekend last month while I agree I don’t find driving the track in racing games that enjoyable but as a track to go to it is fantastic so many great views to watch and take pictures
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I couldn't stop laughing when he got Top Gear Co-Host achievement, joking bout Bottom Gear and then he did the Top Gear Co-Host thing
On this episode: Cars.
SLAM
While I totally understand and agree with the Sebring slander, it is - dead serious - the ONLY TRACK IN FLORIDA THAT ISN'T AN OVAL. It is quite literally the most diverse, unique racing this state has to offer. Which is pretty pathetic, but I will ironically defend it with my life and unironically not defend it at all.
damn
Sebring slander will not be tolerated it is literally an amazing track to drive on, at least in racing games
The only oval track in florida is daytona or more short tracks.
@@TomoG4ch4_Alan94 Nope. Homestead International, Freedom Factory, Orlando Speed World (latter 2 also have a drag strip), New Smyrna Raceway - just the notable picks from a long list of ovals here, most of the rest of which are tiny dirt ones. Good luck finding anything else that isn't a standalone drag strip, BMX, or go-kart track...or Sebring, of course.
@@JamVar well, i can't do that since i'm from another continent.
I thought he'd stick specifically to F and E class. I thought this would be really hard - but then he was upgrading past E class and I realized this won't even be a problem
It's not that it would've been hard, just really boring for the stream audience. This is because of the way Forza 4 scales the prize money by race distance, Dustin would've had to grind the same three races over and over.
The nissan micra in real life is genuinely weirdly sporty and isn't exactly fast to accelerate but can achieve a decent top speed
Yup, they even earned themselves a reputation in Colombia where they were sold as the Nissan "March" as quite the cheap but go fast car. People put turbos on them, and there is even a racing series that is dedicated exclusively to the Micra.
@@MeDicen_Rochathere's a massive community around modified k11 micras
@@friendlysnoworb6091They react well to mods, plus theyre super easy to work on.
Doing a challenge on FM4 is so refreshing. It really is the best FM game to do this. I don't think the career modes of the latter games could support procedural narrative like setting up your own challenges. When I played FM7 the career mode felt so restrictive and I couldn't buy or build what I wanted to do.
The Kuru cameo around 25:30 made me laugh so hard...
It was a 10/10 use of those clips, for sure.
That Suzuki was built by the same guy who built the Escudo, Nobuhiro "Monster" Tajima so it can really be called the Escudo's grandchild. It was the first car to break the 10 minute mark at Pikes Peak in 2011. It also made an appearance in Granturismo 6 along with Tajima's custom electric Pikes Peak car called the E-Runner. I recommend you try it out if you play GT6.
To add to that, Tejima works at Suzuki and was one of the designers of a normal SX4. Said car is also a light homologation special for WRC, featuring Swift Sport's engine (Europe) and AWD (2.0 engine in USA). It is also driveable only in Forza Motorsport 4 in its stock form, GT5 and 6 have only the rally car and the Pikes Peak versions.
interesting fact: in my country (italy) we have that suzuki sx4 Branded as Fiat, the car is the exact same, but the name is Fiat Sedici and not suzuki
All jokes aside i love your editor's work man,seriously the editing makes these videos genuinely tens of times more enjoyable and funnier with the memes and little funny bits and such.
Fun video! I should add: There is a small collection of E class cars in Forza Motorsport 2023, with the lowest PI I've seen being 181, and half a dozen more still under 250. Certainly no FM4 variety, but it's something!
yeah they're basically just for actually stupid slow cars now
Petition for dustineden to play through all the PGR games
>hating on the new Forza's car level system which requires to drive a car before upgrading it
>"Right! Fuck! Before we upgrade a car, we should drive it first!"
the duality of man
It's the forcing of how you play thats the issue
I just want to say good job as usual to Dustin and big props to James' editing skills, I simply love the sense of humour of you two guys. I don't know why watching these videos is so funny, I love them :D
5:15 looks like the track giving the middle finger lol
god this game is so much better than the new motorsport in so many ways..... how did turn 10 drop the ball so bad
Grafiks, no space for good stuff
Except it's not.
@@Momo4060i Honestly FM4 is, but FM8 isn't as bad as this guy says
@@Filipsyy
Yeh, it's worse.
I'm talking about 8 of course.
@@JesseGTthe graphics are a mess. I’ve had maybe 2 or 3 times where I’ve genuinely thought the game looked great, after playing for multiple hours. I’m making myself suffer through the campaign for the reward cars. The game looks so flat most of the time. Broken reflections, broken textures, unrealistically blurry movements, etc. What a fkn mess. I’ve been playing Forza since I was a little kid back in 2005 on the OG Xbox. Oh, how the great have fallen…. So glad I didn’t pay for this, I’ve just been playing through Game Pass.
47:25 That could not have been an even more perfect moment to be Bottom Gear. Holy shit.
A day without Dustin crashing would be a day when Dustin isn't driving lol
Did FM4 really look this good? It has been over 10 years since I played this last time and I'm surprised. In addition to the graphics the gameplay also seems overall good. No wonder this is beloved.
Relatively little known tip in this game, once you got the 100% discount with BMW you could also have sold all the upgrades on the 2002 for credits then re-installed them for free.
47:24 "Cars 😀" *flies away because of 7 tires*
ah yes, the Forza Motorsport with car levels done correctly
3:35 that nostalgic Spongebob movie game music
No joking, the Cheverolet Aveo with rwd swap and a LS1 v8 is a beast of a car and handles surprisingly well. That would be a fun car to try this with if you do it again.
The fucking "do it" "don't do it" "dyeh" bit got me so good lol
8:10 people were begging for this wing to change because it’s the same since the original game now people say it looks so much better😭 i love hindsight
I remember doing a similar challenge in GT4, back in the mid 2000s, with an MX-5.
25:30 cameo from Kuru the Speed King
To explain The SX4
Yes.
it IS a Descendant of the Escudo.
Kind of.
You see the Escudo and The SX4 Are Pikes Peak Altered cars created for the...Aforementioned Pikes Peak Hill Climb for the same person: Nobuhiro Tajima
I forgot how good this game actually was. Aged like fine wine
Lmfao the kuru edit with the golf at 25m was so good hahaha. This has probably been one of my favourite videos of yours. I like that you kept damage on too. Kept it interesting. Lots of new ideas for playthroughs and challenge runs now.
It would be really cool if someone could enable damage for AI cars too, and/or make damage persist between races.
God the nostalgia from seeing this game… I remember when I first played it on my xbox 360 I was about 7 at at the time and LORD did I love just going into the autoshop and buying 10 of the same car each with different designs lol! (I didnt know you could save decals back then)
It's funny that the million dollar car he bought is literally the suzuki that he never uses
Love the fm4 content here. As a huge fan of this game I would love to see more challenges on this game! Keep up your fantastic work.
24:17 almost choked on my drink LMAO
Sadly he did not go for the Aygo
Edit: i knew someone sabotaged the grass in my years of playing Forza!
I hate myself for laughing so hard at 'among us track' I wasn't ready for that one
I did not know the Suzuki SX4 Pikes Peak Special was in FM4.
The Two broke girls reference was unexpected
The kuru voice lines had me dead😂
32:28 GT3 Laguna do be GOATed for sure.. Did my first drift build there and managed to get a full lap drift in the Z concept
Michael Gambon tribute at Gambon, very well executed, cheers editor james!
I don't even play racing games that often, but I just love watching Eden and Kuru playing them.
And also due to how often Eden's editors use Persona BGMs for videos, sometimes watching one of these videos reminds me that I need to finish my New Game+ save files at some point, gotta grind for that 100% compendium completion amirite
Edit: ALSO, who else is hyped for Persona 3 Reloaded?!?!
47:24 Certified Bottom Gear moment
I literally just bought a peugot 107 irl for my first car, and seeing it racing around here is hilarious! It is not the fastest car in the world, but get in the right gear and that thing will take off!
the 2 broke girls sound was perfect for this
your editor keeps sneaking in sonic music (it's good)
that suzuki in the end doesn't have a lot of top speed because it's a rally car
I support the Micra choice, since i have a 2013 Micra SR (here is called March SR, and I don't know if you guys have this exact version out there). This version got some "bodykit". Using the 1.6 engine, this have a decent performance for the price point, and with some love, maybe you can do even more
The best Motorsport of all👌🏽❤ i miss Fujimi Kaido so bad😭
About 35:00 this track reminds me of the golf course in wii sports.
Dustin Eden has been pumping videos like a kids UA-camr lately
omg the 2 broke girls at 7:24 LOL
Part 2 of this please,
10,000,000 CR with only F, E and D Class cars?
Ever since I got the game for Christmas 2023, and I saw your comment, I then proceeded to do your challenge, where I had to earn 10 million credits using only F, E, and D-Class cars, as your comment said. Therefore, I did that. On March 19th, I finally completed the challenge. I have officially earned 10 million credits using only F, E, and D-Class cars. It took me about three and a half months to do this, so the third part where I have to earn 100 million credits using only F, E, D, and C-Class cars is really hard and really long and stressful. So, I can not do that, but thanks for the challenge suggestion. If Dustineden does the same challenge that you just suggested on Forza Motorsport 4, I should go tell him that I did it first while he's doing this on UA-cam, and it's OK if he does this too. Remember, anyone can do the 'Can You Earn/Can You Beat' challenges, even me. But in conclusion, I finally earned 10,000,000 credits using only F, E, and D Class cars.
Do this challenge in GT7 as well, it’s basically FM4 in 2024 but running on PS5
Sonic cd, daytona usa, and sega arcade soundtracks always slaps
If there's anything Forza Horizon has taught me, is that a BMW 2002 Turbo can and will beat a Koenigsegg
And any R3 car if you can block them from passing you.
25:17 i laugh so hard at this lol
1:52 omg fox my car
next you should do this challenge with only an ae86 as its actually fast enough to beat the r2 zonda R stock on easy
15:50 Mazda 2! Mazda 2! Mazda 2! (saving the planet from disaster)
😂 Forza 4 was awesome. I remember I played it once online with a supercharged Prius 👍
Finally I’ve been waiting for this video
Class Z, where you can actually just f@cking walk :D Lmao
Sonic Heros? Cultured Individual.
Man, FM4 was such an amazing game. Peak Forza imo. Great to see you play this. Brings back good memories, thnx for that. 😁
the voice crack at 1:10 lol
I recently started playing this again, i missed this game so much and noticed we have lost so much from FM2, FM3 and FM4 in the new ones
The Suzuka sx4 also had a fiat equivalent called the Sedeci. My dad had one in a sandy gold colour and I thought it was so cool as it was a 4x4.
Man it was ugly looking back 😂
Is that Rayman M/Arena music I hear at 38:00? Oh, I like you a lot, editor JamesVariety!
Okay, screw it, my ADHD is gonna speak out its mind, and I'm gonna fucking let it do it.
I want a video game... where you LITTERARLY start from the VERY beginning, you don't pick a brand new car like you do in Forza 4, but you litterarly take a bare, rusted up junker from the junkyard, earning money by deliverying pizzas and other odd jobs, and once you have have your car driveable with the parts you find from the junkyard, you race around with it, and then when you manage to earn enough cash from winning races, you can either buy a beater car which is more reliable than the car you picked from the junkyard, OR you can keep using your junker by spending more money on better parts that breaks less and gives your car more performance. And then you keep grinding for money, and you buy a better car or upgrade your car even more, and finally after MONTHS of playing the game, you finally reach the top league where you use legit racecars like stock cars, single seater cars, and prototype cars to use in races. (And if you're VERY slim on cash, and you keep losing races, then you can just keep doing pizza deliveries & other odd jobs in order to earn some money to buy that one part you need in order to win races again.)
Give me that kind of game, and I will be able to die a happy man!
Idk if Dustin noticed but he started in a Suzuki Sx4 and finished in a Sx4 pikes peak!
It was also in GT6 and gave u free wins in like the wind
around 4 mins in, i noticed that spongebob squarepants movie game music! when driving the krabby patty mobile!
32:03 that sound effect sounds really familiar but don't know where from...
2 Broke Girls
@@JamVar thnks!
15:56
James. Please. Holy crap. What did you do to Sonic Boom?
Sonic Boom is dead. Long live Sonic Zoom-Zoom
They did sell the Suzuki SX4 in the US and they were apparently pretty good for what they were.
38:00 I see you are a man of culture as well 😎Nice Rayman Arena plug. (Their best game btw, Rayman 3 is a close second)
(Edit: And clearly a fan of Sonic X3)
Back when Forza was actually good.
You dont like 90 degree corners? Spa: r90 , S , r90, l90, r90, r180 , l90, l180, r90, l90, r180, l45, l45, r90, l90.
7:15 ALL HAIL MATA
Driving on Nurburgring curbs : So you have chosen death?
I've been really slacking on warching this but glad to have caught the first few hours live.
I absolutely love the city cars in this game since they often produced such close racing, the Smart ForTwo in particular is my favourite but unfortunately that was DLC.
I did miss you getting kerbed however lmao, there's a lot of them in this game and even later entries that are absolutely lethal if you're running race suspension.
I've still got Trauma from Sebring due to the Endurance Race there in FM7, was the last showcase I needed and what a chore it was.
The Auto-Upgrade in the modern Forza Horizons is even more funky, it sometimes puts cars on Drift Suspension since it technically improved stats but you can guess the results.
I've always loved the 2002 so I'm really glad it was the MVP of the endgame, super fun to drive in the modern games too.
That Suzuki is the successor to the Escudo and unfortunately it has never returned in any of the newer titles so it's exclusive DLC for FM4.
Finishing on the amongus track, how fitting for the final race. xD
Hands down the best Motorsport game they have created.. if only they would reembody it..
I see James is a fellow Mata fan. I knew he was a good dude.
So, for the most part, just a normal Tuesday for me when it comes to gameplay at least.
I don't aim for money that much, but I do tend to prefer making slower cars be absolute units.
7:10 the MATA
(Atlântica)
24:25 guilty gear mentioned
I got to go to the Sebring for the sro America weekend last month while I agree I don’t find driving the track in racing games that enjoyable but as a track to go to it is fantastic so many great views to watch and take pictures
The vw fox genuinely has potential as a b class menace with a bit of tuning. Least thats what I remember it being years ago.
Dude the cash sound from 2 Broke Girls is golden
24:57
We all remember our first time with. ALL of us.
I really love the edits and the jokes of this channel
The existence of this video is itself commentary on the quality of the brand new Forza Motorsport, lol
I think we need a curb compilation as a short.
Okay that webview 2 joke got me lol
14k for a delorean
In germany we say:
Pack ein damit
U should do more FM4 vids!
Micra is the only proper car there , I wish they added the k10 and k11 in the horizon series
He's back!
I like hearing the background music in your videos. I heard some Sonic music. I swear I heard Rayman Rush music around 39:45