Troubadours d'Italie, Italian Troubadours - Trob'Art Ensemble
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
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Album: Canso viva - Les Troubadours d'Italie XIIº et XIIIº siècles
Video: Ms. 854
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Canso Viva is a work of the maestro, musician and researcher Gérard Zuchetto.
In this album poems by some Italian troubadours are brought back to life or of those who had a close link with Italy. Considering the few characters available, I'll briefly tell facts about some of these troubadours. Raimbaut de Vaqueiras (1165/1207) opens the play: joglar from an early age, he learned the art of trobar at the court of Guilhèm del Bauç. He arrived in Italy in 1190. While he's in Genoa he writes the famous Sirventes between him and a Genoese woman who refuses his love, insulting his rough "Provençal" manners. He passes through Tortona and reaches the Malaspina court. Here a new and amusing Sirventes is born with the marquis and troubadour Albertz dei Malaspina who, after having listened to his Sirventes with the Genoese, makes fun of him. Finally in 1192 he arrives in Monferrato where he will be a privileged guest and esteemed troubadour at the court of Bonifacio. The artistic level of the court was very high, there were great troubadours such as Gaucelm Faidit - who's also present in this collection -, trobairitz, poets and jesters; and it is precisely from a group of jesters that Raimbaut listens for the first time to the estampie Kalenda Maya, milestone of medieval music, to which he will add the words. Raimbaut becomes a close friend of the Marquis, they travel and fight together from Piedmont to Sicily, and falls in love with the Marquis' sister Beatrice. Lastly he leaves with his friend and they die together in Romania, during the fourth crusade. Ramberti de Buvalel, or rather Rambertino di Guido Buvalelli (1170/1221) originally from Bologna, is the first of the Lombard podestà-troubadours from the 13th century. We have ten Occitan poems by him. He's included among the first Italian troubadours together with Cossezen and Peire de la Caravana. Shortly after earning a law degree in Bologna, he enters into the good graces of Beatrice d'Este, who is celebrated in all of his poems. He was an enthusiast of the themes of the courtly love and among his many troubadour friends the figure of Elias Cairel stands out, to whom he asked to bring and perform the poem "Toz m'era de chantar gequiz" at the court of Beatrice d'Este. It was Rambertino's ability to sing about love that prompted Peire Raimon de Tolosa to dedicate his "De fin'amor son tuit mei pessamen" to him, which has been described as "one of the best descriptions of courtly love". "Un cavalier se Jaizia" is a work of dubious attribution between Gaucelm Faidit and Bertran D'Alamanon, a troubadour of Provençal origin but a regular at he court of Charles I of Anjou in Italy. He wrote several Tensos with his friend Sordel. Exactly to Sordel two compositions from this collection belong. Originally from Mantua, precisely from Goito, Sordel became a jester at a young age. In 1220 he was involved in an inn brawl in Florence and left the city. In 1221 he lived in Ferrara at the court of Azzo II d'Este and there Rambertino Buvalelli taught him the first rudiments of poetic art. In 1225 he moved to Verona from the Count Riccardo di Sambonifacio: the partimens with Guilhem de la Tor in which he defends the theses of courtly love date back to this period. In 1226, he's again in Verona, he was at the head of the expedition to steal Riccardo di Sambonifacio's wife Cunizza da Romano on the orders of the woman's brothers. He married the noblewoman Otta degli Strasso and in 1229 he left the court of the Da Romano to go, following various political events, to Spain, Portugal and Provence, where Count Ramon Berenguer IV elected him a knight giving him some fiefs. In 1245 Ramon Berenguer IV died and Sordel remained with his heir Charles I of Anjou following him in Italy in 1265. His life is full of interesting anecdotes, I recommend you to deepen his figure and his poetry. Peire de la Mula, closes the record, on which there is little information, it is known that he was active in Piedmont and that he could be originally from Mantua. Foulquet de Marsillia, Bonifacio Calvo, Lanfranc Cigala and many other Italian troubadours unfortunately are missing in this splendid work, but Gérard Zuchetto sang their verses in other works by him that I invite you to search, listen and buy.
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1 RAIMBAUT DE VAQUEIRAS, Altas ondas que venez suz la mar
2 BONIFACI DE CASTELLANA, Sitot m'es fort gaya la sazos
3 RAMBERTI DE BUVALEL, Ges de chantar n.om voill gequir
4 En sai la flor plus bella d'autra flor
5 BERTRAN D'ALMANON, Un cavaliers si jaza
6 SORDEL, Puois trobat ai qi conois et enten
7 Ai las e que fan miey huelh
8 PEIRE DE LA MULA, Dels Joglars servir mi laisse
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Canso Viva è un'opera del maestro, musicista e ricercatore Gérard Zuchetto.
In questo disco vengono riportate in vita poesie di alcuni trovatori italiani o che hanno avuto stretti rapporti con l'Italia. Considerando i pochi caratteri a disposizione, racconterò brevemente qualche fatto su alcuni dei trovatori presenti. Apre l'opera Raimbaut de Vaqueiras (1165/1207), joglar fin da giovanissimo, apprende l'arte del trobar alla corte di Guilhem del Bauç. Arriva in Italia nel 1190. Giunto a Genova scrive il celebre Sirventese tra lui ed una donna Genovese che rifiuta il suo amore, insultando i suoi modi rozzi "da Provenzale". Passa per Tortona e giunge alla corte dei Malaspina. Qui nasce un nuovo e divertente sirventese con il marchese e trovatore Albertz dei Malaspina che, dopo aver ascoltato il suo sirventese con la Genovese, lo prende in giro. Finalmente nel 1192 giunge nel Monferrato dove sarà ospite privilegiato e trovatore stimato alla corte di Bonifacio. Il livello artistico della corte era molto alto, vi erano grandi trovatori come Gaucelm Faidit -anche lui presente in questa raccolta-, trobairitz, poeti e giullari e proprio da un gruppo di giullari Raimbaut ascolta per la prima volta l'istampitta Kalenda Maya, pietra miliare della musica medievale, alla quale lui aggiungerà le parole. Raimbaut ed il marchese diventano molto amici, viaggiano e combattono insieme dal Piemonte alla Sicilia, si innamora di Beatrice, sorella del marchese, ed infine partono e muoiono insieme in Romania, durante la quarta crociata. Ramberti de Buvalel, o per meglio dire Rambertino di Guido Buvalelli (1170/1221) originario di Bologna, è il primo dei podestà-trovatori lombardi del XIII secolo. Di lui abbiamo dieci poesie in occitano. Annoverato tra i primi trovatori italiani insieme a Cossezen e Peire de la Caravana. Poco dopo aver conseguito una laurea in diritto a Bologna entra nelle grazie di Beatrice d'Este, celebrata in tutte le sue poesie. Amante dei temi dell'Amor Cortese, tra i suoi molti amici trovatori spicca la figura di Elias Cairel, al quale chiese di portare ed eseguire alla corte di Beatrice d'Este la poesia Toz m'era de chantar gequiz. Fu l'abilità di Rambertino a cantare d'amore che spinse Peire Raimon de Tolosa a dedicargli il suo De fin'amor son tuit mei pessamen, che è stato descritto come "una delle migliori descrizioni dell'amor cortese". Un cavalier se Jaizia è un opera di dubbia attribuzione tra Gaucelm Faidit e Bertran D'Alamanon, trovatore di origine Provenzale ma presente in Italia al seguito della corte di Carlo I d'Angiò. Scrisse varie Tensos con l'amico Sordel (Bertrans, lo joy de dompnas e d'amia e Mout m'es greu d'En Sordel, car l'es faillitz sos senz). Proprio a Sordel appartengono due composizioni di questa raccolta. Originario di Mantova, precisamente di Goito, Sordel si fece giullare in giovane età. Nel 1220 fu coinvolto in una rissa in una locanda di Firenze ed abbandonò la città. Nel 1221 visse a Ferrara alla corte di Azzo II d'Este e qui Rambertino Buvalelli gli fece da maestro insegnandogli i primi rudimenti dell'arte poetica. Nel 1225 si spostò a Verona dal conte Riccardo di Sambonifacio: risalgono a questo periodo i partimens con Guilhem de la Tor nei quali porta a difesa le tesi dell'amor cortese. Nel 1226, sempre a Verona, fu a capo della spedizione per sottrarre a Riccardo di Sambonifacio la moglie Cunizza da Romano su ordine dei fratelli della donna. Sposò la nobildonna Otta degli Strasso e nel 1229 lasciò la corte dei Da Romano per recarsi, in seguito a varie vicende politiche, in Spagna, Portogallo e Provenza, dove il conte Raimondo Berengario IV lo nominò cavaliere donandogli alcuni feudi. Nel 1245 morì Raimondo Berengario IV e Sordel rimase con il suo erede Carlo I d'Angiò seguendolo in Italia nel al 1265. La sua vita è piena di aneddoti interessanti, consiglio di approfondire la sua figura e la sua poesia. Chiude il disco Peire de la Mula sul quale si hanno poche informazioni, si sa che fu attivo in Piemonte e che potrebbe essere originario di Mantova. Foulquet de Marsillia, Bonifacio Calvo, Lanfranc Cigala e molti altri trovatori italiani purtroppo mancano in questa splendida opera, però Gérard Zuchetto ha cantato i loro versi in altre sue opere che vi invito a cercare, ascoltare ed acquistare.
Volpe Mirko, Musica Medievale 🌹
Just a comparison :my country - India - is having hundreds of languages, traditions, customs and cultures, and colors of the people varies from brown to black. I am having a transferable job with posting in different places, speaking different languages. Each place has different folklore or folksongs. Wherever I go I make it a point to listen and enjoy these, the beauty of which varies from one tradition or language to another. I don't know how to describe their styles of singing which usually don't require any modern musical instruments or drums. Likewise, here the singing or recitation kept me spell bound. It is said that this kind of recitation takes us closer to God (eg., Gregorian chants). The recitation or singing prompted me to think that I was attending a church service although there is no church or chapel nearby. This kind of unusual recitation or singing cools my mind or as they say soothes our souls! It is absolutely amazing that, without any video or modern technology, the recital dragged me into a stage of immersing fully in it. Wonderful. Gracias.
Thank you so much, I'm really glad that you felt these sensations listening to this music. I want to suggest you this video, I hope that it can interest you: ua-cam.com/video/FfcMfPwVbDI/v-deo.html
What a wonderful appreciation for beauty. So many just pass by and let it go unnoticed. Be blessed.
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this kind of music transports me to a kind of no place no time ... just being . Not even happiness , just being . Thank you fot your text . I do agree and love whay you wrote.
As a Russian i wanna say that this is so f**king AMAZING and beautiful. Viva la Europe
00:00 1 RAIMBAUT DE VAQUEIRAS, Altas ondas que venez suz la mar
08:11 2 BONIFACI DE CASTELLANA, Sitot m'es fort gaya la sazos
11:59 3 RAMBERTI DE BUVALEL, Ges de chantar n.om voill gequir
19:11 4 En sai la flor plus bella d'autra flor
26:27 5 BERTRAN D'ALMANON, Un cavaliers si jaza
32:39 6 SORDEL, Puois trobat ai qi conois et enten
38:01 7 Ai las e que fan miey huelh
46:14 8 PEIRE DE LA MULA, Dels Joglars servir mi laisse
Thank you.
One of the greatest channels on UA-cam!
Indeed!!
Certamente!
Grazie 🌹
Another Tour de force from you Mirko! Last night I was out accompanying the local Morris dancers on my 120-year-old violin and came home to play music on my lute, written by Cutting in the 1580s but you have dwarfed these ancient links by your journey back to the Troubadour sources of the 1200s and the fascinating accounts of the lives of the Trobaritz and this amazing movement of the Provençal poets across the divide into your beloved northern Italia and even to Sicily; all so beautifully evoked in words and music. Thanks for being there to bring me such things at dawn in 21st century Western Australia.
Martin
Thank you so much for this, Gallo italic and Gallo romance culture of northern Italy like this music is often overlooked but magical
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Che meraviglia questa musica! Questo canale è come uno scoglio in un mare in tempesta. Grazie.💗
Grazie 🌹
Fa affondare le navi
I call this another era music thanks for this beautiful music.musique de l'an de grace..
Thank you. I am enjoying being entertained by these musicians while I have my dinner. Which is as it should be, no?
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Raimbaut de Vaqueiras (1165/1207)
Ramberti de Buvalel, o per meglio dire Rambertino di Guido Buvalelli (1170/1221)
Peire de la Mula
Amici. Siete veri artisti e musicisti.
Ti ricordiamo e ti apprezziamo.
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Grazie infinite per questa musica meravigliosa!!!
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So much resemblance with nowadays' North-Western Italian dialects... and a very valid historical document, this music and the research behind it.
You are absolutely right. 🌹
Most of thoses Dialects, especially in western, didn't evolved very much.
It still very medieval.
Im Nissard from a Cuneese family, i speak and write Nissard, but more the pre annexion / that joke of Mistral impised by 1931.
I can talk with a Mentunasc, i can understand a Munegasc, im very confortable in Imperia Region, with also Camporosso and DolceAcqua that were part of the Contea di Nizza.
In the Cuneese valleys, its like also we talk almost the same tongue.
When i was limited in Piemontese , i talked Nissard, and people weren't like " I don't get this or that ".
A genovese can understand me at 50% but Genovese evolved, so around that aera, its more difficult.
Western Ligurian languages stayed much more archaic than Genovese and such..
Its conservative.
However i notice also that Nissard as even Genovese shares few southern features as well.
In Nissard and Sicilian old, some pronoms shares the same diluality.
Ieu Iu
Tu Tu
Eu / ella Iddu / Idda
Nautre. Nuiatre
Vautre Vuiatre
Ellu / Elli Iddi
And certain variations terms , as well than Meschin for mesirable, Meschinu in Sicilian that came from Amazighen Meskine. Itself.
I guess the coast aspect maybe played a role in exchanges too
@@Nissardpertugiu This was very interesting, sir; thank you for the so much detailed testimony!
This poetry wasn't written in the local dilects, but directly in Occitan because that was the "fashionable" literary language of the period.
The resamblance is due to the close linguistic relationship between Occitan and the Northern Italian languages (Gallo-Italic).
@@nicolocrippa8514 Frankly, I hadn't said this poetry is written in the local north-western Italian dialects. I merely pointed out the similarities. But then again, the Insubrian and Gallo-Italic dialects did delve deep in this, say, common ancestor, anyway thanks a lot for the veeery precise and very welcome clarification, sir...
Buon giorno a voi! Brano rilassante e fa viaggiare nel tempo! Grazie! 🤗❤️🤗🌸🌸🌸🌸🤗
Allez hop un petit tour en Italie. Merci. Genial . Bonne inspiration pour déstresser d une dure semaine. 👍 👏👏👏👏
Grazie! 🌹
Merci pour cette chaîne, elle berce mon âme lorsque j'ai besoin d'inspiration ou de calme. :)
Che meraviglia! davvero questo è uno dei canali più belli e utili su UA-cam - grazie per il vostro lavoro, di incalcolabile valore.
Grazie, faccio del mio meglio! 🌻
@@MusicaMedievale Tutto da solo? Complimenti di cuore!! Lavoro meritorio come pochi.
@@rossanopinelli5150 Grazie! Se ci sono amore e passione, il lavoro è un piacere. 🌹
Playing catch up with this gem =----> TY
This is great. Thank You!
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The best Channel on the UA-cam
Thank you!
@UCw9CLkBHqDMIqBUciTEmODg has become my new fave YT channel; thank you so very much for the incredible variety!
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Thank you for this beautiful unusual music
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très beau ! merci !
So beautiful
In risposta al tuo commento precedente, in Brasile ci sono le culture precolombiane che sono incredibilmente interessanti. 🌹
@@MusicaMedievale grazie per il riconoscimento
@@PauloVictor-vu2bt Tutto il mondo dovrebbe riconoscerlo.
Ciò che è accaduto dopo Colombo è stata una delle più grandi vergogne dell'umanità.
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A Joubert through time nas space
Pardon my ignorance, but I was wondering why songs labeled as Italian have titles that look like medieval French to me.
Were the two languages that close in the 11th & 12th centuries?
Because the troubadours of northern Italy sang in Occitan, Occitania included northern Italy, Spain and southern France. If you look for the vidas of the troubadours you will find that most of them moved continuously in these territories.
@@MusicaMedievale yes, the dialects of northern Italy resemble Occitan closely. Some more than others. ie Milanese is very influence by Spanish. Piamontes is 'very French' etc
Italian as we know it didn't existed.
Occitan and Ligure substrat share also common origins.
Thats why they re similar.
Rather coming from Occitan ( unfortunally which comunity have imperialist tendencies by classifying everything from Catalogna and to certain languages of Si as Oc , centralising, when none of one or another get domination dialect wise ) theres things that travelled from the ligure tribes that migrated to the west..
That crossover and latin thing archaic gave similarities, and exganges within troubadours..
At that time, most of romance languages were similar.
However, Lombard, Piemontese ( North and south aren't the same, south is more harmonious than Turin ), Ligurian related , as well than sister tongurs such Provenzal, , Occitan and Catalan, and also Southern features that aren't that lets say separated as some cliches north vs south would suggest later, Sardinian, Old Sicilian , Corsican ... Thoses languages predate official languages Soanish, Portuguese , French and Italian all together.
The first Piemontese writing were BC for example.
Not forgetting the enigmatic Cuneese speaking , la lenga d'Oe , which origin or group is still practicly unknown.
That language, as few of the Ponente stuff, is very similar to Medieval Nissard for exemple.
Old french have some similarities with Gallo Itallic languages .
It may be not understandable from a current french , but not impossible to undersrand for us in some many ways
But to remember things, Dante was inspired by joining nobles particularism of languages he knew.
Old Sicilian, troubadours, and Fiorentine , but also Corsican gave the Tuscan Language , than we know as italian.
Its more 13 th century.
As i said, thoses songs here are in languages before Italian Tuscan was created and structured .
@@MusicaMedievale the Occitania centralised of one block is mainly a doubious politiv notions and quite recent concept .
Thank you a lot for posting these!
I am curious: Almost all of the music I see on this channel is from the High/Late Medieval period. Will you ever post early Medieval music (like 6th-9th century), or is that just not possible because next to nothing survives from that time period besides monastic chants?
Oh and have you considered posting Byzantine music? I think that'd be fascinating!
Watch the other videos of the channel! You will find music from both the early Middle Ages and the Byzantine Empire 🌹
@@MusicaMedievale oh thanks! I‘m glad to hear!
Do you have some links to music you could recommend? I have some trouble finding music specifically from the early middle ages 😅
@@halflifeger4179 Of course! Check the other videos from this channel 🌹
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Queste canzoni vengono con la musica ? I always wonder if these old songs have original music. I know some add music resembling what came to us, like the mentioned ones. I understand Italian but it has been a long time! Thanks for uploading !
Thank you!
Fortunately, many original melodies have survived in the manuscripts, but often poems without music are also set to music using contemporary melodies and musical instruments to emulate the type of sound and taste. 🌹
Thoses songs are in languages that predated and inspired the building of italian as we know it by Dante
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Does troubadour mean poet?
More or less... Read the info of this video: ua-cam.com/video/-ZZLuin-ro4/v-deo.html
Bellissima...
Cantava in milanese ?
Occitan...lenga romana
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do they connect in anyway to the ancient Romans, and if so, how?
No, this is Medieval music much later than Ancient Rome.
@@elenagasper571 I know. was wondering if there was some connection in time (linear) and style elements.
@@henrifischer1119 Drifts yes, but with some changes and external influences.
The populations of thoses aeras didn't originated from Romans.
They re ligures or Celto Ligures