I might be in the minority, but I've found Strange Book is almost always worth it. Not only because it enables your engineering stat to go crazy high, but also because it makes strange sausage insanely good. That also opens up other items to be good like piercing, snakes, etc, so your shops also get better. On top of that you're also taking more tier 1 items, making fairy even better. It snowballs super hard
I once played through with a mix of screwdriver and wrench. It's surprisingly easy. The explosion in small map combined with a few highly upgraded turrets made the game straight forward to focusing more on survival abilities. And the rest will be done by the system itself.
Mixing the two can be good! A few turrets help a *lot* to mitigate the problems with landmines, as indeed happened here when I got the flame turrets and tyler
Interesting how differentiating opinions are about this game. Many people on Reddit and Discord say that this is one of easiest options for Old, but people like you and me have struggled with this. I have yet to do this but hopefully I can do it someday. I actually struggled a lot with old. Most of the popular suggestions like screwdriver, wrench, and shotgun, just never worked for me. Ever. I had to use choppers to get my very first D5 win with this character. Since then I’ve diverged to planks, scissors, and pruners. Planks have been my personal favorite, just screwdriver but better.
To be honest, if they say this is the easiest way to win Old, I don't believe they're playing on D5 :P Screwdrivers are almost certainly in the bottom 3 weapons in the game for high difficulties, with pretty narrow exceptions (like cyborg, who can build them as melee weapons). Wrench and Shotgun are my go-to suggestions for the class, but it's deceptively hard if you don't get early harvesting, thanks to the economy penalty of low enemy spawns
I think a lot of people can't win with a lot of brotatoes because your videos already have all the items unlocked. I'd be interested in watching a video series on a brand new account. Seeing danger 5 videos from the beginning and seeing the route you take (which potatoes you unlock for which items and so on). I think that would be more relateable to most viewers. Especially new players like myself.
one question, how can i get different weapons? i pick the Ranger class and i pick the shredder/laser gun but when i go to the shop no matter how many times i reroll i always get SMG's, it doesn't even show a pistol which is the given gun, only SMG's goes the same with other characters like the brawler, you get a fist as a given and have an option to pick a hand or fist as a secondary but it only gives me fists and not a single hand
I don't understand the reasoning behind letting your % damage tank on this build. Your doing all these things that should scale well with increased % damage. While it doesn't matter against the smaller aliens, against things like ribcages, tenticles, and buff aliens in the later waves, being +10% rather than -25% could take you past the breakpoint where you're clearing tin 1-2 hits rather than 2-3. Is there an interaction with landmines and % damage that I"m not aware of yet?
I think passing on those Sunglasses in wave 7 wasn't optimal. Screwdrivers don't look like crit weapons because they're not Precise tagged, but they actually have a natively very high crit chance (20% at L3, 30% at L4), and sure enough that very shop you rolled a Tentacle to start improving your healing.
The crit chance only applies to the actual weapon attacks, which won't be very useful for much longer - similarly tentacle, since we'd need to actually kill stuff with a weapon crit for it to proc. Overall I'd rather have the armor and money.
I might be in the minority, but I've found Strange Book is almost always worth it. Not only because it enables your engineering stat to go crazy high, but also because it makes strange sausage insanely good. That also opens up other items to be good like piercing, snakes, etc, so your shops also get better. On top of that you're also taking more tier 1 items, making fairy even better. It snowballs super hard
it literally pained me to see him pass on it on "potential dmg loss" liek what are you even buying that loses you elemental damage anyway here???
I once played through with a mix of screwdriver and wrench. It's surprisingly easy. The explosion in small map combined with a few highly upgraded turrets made the game straight forward to focusing more on survival abilities. And the rest will be done by the system itself.
Mixing the two can be good! A few turrets help a *lot* to mitigate the problems with landmines, as indeed happened here when I got the flame turrets and tyler
Interesting how differentiating opinions are about this game. Many people on Reddit and Discord say that this is one of easiest options for Old, but people like you and me have struggled with this. I have yet to do this but hopefully I can do it someday.
I actually struggled a lot with old. Most of the popular suggestions like screwdriver, wrench, and shotgun, just never worked for me. Ever. I had to use choppers to get my very first D5 win with this character. Since then I’ve diverged to planks, scissors, and pruners. Planks have been my personal favorite, just screwdriver but better.
To be honest, if they say this is the easiest way to win Old, I don't believe they're playing on D5 :P Screwdrivers are almost certainly in the bottom 3 weapons in the game for high difficulties, with pretty narrow exceptions (like cyborg, who can build them as melee weapons). Wrench and Shotgun are my go-to suggestions for the class, but it's deceptively hard if you don't get early harvesting, thanks to the economy penalty of low enemy spawns
Screwdrivers with 200% and improved tools is one of my fav combo
200% what?
@@Erlewyn atack speed
I love screw driver. No matter how bad it is, land mines are my jam.
This the build that actually got me the win for Old. To kill them bosses you have to also stab them while kiting them into your bombs :P
Super cool challenge win! And you did it without the superspeed 😁
Just for you!
I think a lot of people can't win with a lot of brotatoes because your videos already have all the items unlocked. I'd be interested in watching a video series on a brand new account. Seeing danger 5 videos from the beginning and seeing the route you take (which potatoes you unlock for which items and so on). I think that would be more relateable to most viewers. Especially new players like myself.
Yea
Ceph casually referring to "The Old"
its really fun with screwdrivers. Wrench or double barrel may be easier but i only prefer mines
one question, how can i get different weapons? i pick the Ranger class and i pick the shredder/laser gun but when i go to the shop no matter how many times i reroll i always get SMG's, it doesn't even show a pistol which is the given gun, only SMG's
goes the same with other characters like the brawler, you get a fist as a given and have an option to pick a hand or fist as a secondary but it only gives me fists and not a single hand
Wait why did you not lock the alien baby wave 17?
This sounds like a fun run :)
It was fun this time! Less so when I was losing :P
I've never been able to make a pure screwdriver build work. Wrenches are easy, but screwdrivers, I always get overrun near wave 10 or so.
Dunno if you've tried it before but a dual class of apprentice and devil sounds like a bad time and thus good content.
i call it a get of my lawn run when i play the old with shotgun
Congrats!
Thanks!
I don't understand the reasoning behind letting your % damage tank on this build. Your doing all these things that should scale well with increased % damage. While it doesn't matter against the smaller aliens, against things like ribcages, tenticles, and buff aliens in the later waves, being +10% rather than -25% could take you past the breakpoint where you're clearing tin 1-2 hits rather than 2-3.
Is there an interaction with landmines and % damage that I"m not aware of yet?
Turrets and mines don't scale with % damage. All mines deal 10+100% eng. dmg. They do scale with explosion damage though.
Structures dont scale with % dmg at all
@@Dario__ tell me one damaging structure which isn't either a mine or a turret. And if you say the lil wizard dude you like men.
I want to see you play the Blind Gunner character from the Mashtato mod.
wait i just won my first old danger 5 run with screwdriver...
I think passing on those Sunglasses in wave 7 wasn't optimal. Screwdrivers don't look like crit weapons because they're not Precise tagged, but they actually have a natively very high crit chance (20% at L3, 30% at L4), and sure enough that very shop you rolled a Tentacle to start improving your healing.
The crit chance only applies to the actual weapon attacks, which won't be very useful for much longer - similarly tentacle, since we'd need to actually kill stuff with a weapon crit for it to proc. Overall I'd rather have the armor and money.
Algo food
Cheers!