And if you guys remember. He also have a grappling cord That can aid him in scaling moutains buildings, And spacecrafts. He can also use that cord To attack his enemies.
Master Chief. This isn't a comparison unless you over sell Capt. Which you did here. You took his peak accolades from every universe and sold that as him in a single person.
This is why I don't argue with comic book guys when it comes to DC/Marvel, or Legends guys when it comes to Star Wars. There's always one or two obscure/outlandish stories that boost characters' power levels to completely and utterly insane, unobtainable heights because the comic writer wanted them to be OP. I use the MCU Cap as a genuinely accurate representation of what Captain America could achieve, because at the end of the day Cap is peak-human, the best of what a completely biological and pure human could ever be. Chief is a step above that, augmented beyond peak human, and honestly when Mjolnir is thrown into the picture, it shouldn't even be that close. Unarmored, Chief can match Cap's speed and strength. With armor, I'm sorry Cap fans, there's not much of a contest. But they'll always point to some one-off comic where cap fought a god or blew up a star or some other laughable, ridiculous feat and try to use that as the rule. So don't even bother. 😂
I don't think we accounted for the fact that master chief could literally grab caps shield the second cap throws it and either use it or chuck it really far away because I think master chief and his Ai are smart enough to know that the shield that seems really powerful doesn't need to be in caps hands
I feel like master chief has unlimited stamina bc he doesn't put in any effort, mulnir armor does all the work. So if they are evenly matched as military men, then John halo wins due to being able to outlast cap
@@KillTheDragon05 play halo mate , its an amazing franchise and it you play halo 1 , 2 , and 3 , youll see that chief is invincible to almost everything
What's crazy is that he isn't even the best Spartan II. Not the biggest, strongest, fastest, smartest, best shot, best CQC fighter, or anything really besides perhaps leadership. He is considered to be the luckiest. And what's crazy is that the Elite enemies are all physically stronger and faster than any Spartan.
@@revan0890 Elites are physically equal to a suited Spartan in strength, but are notably slower both in speed and reaction time, and also are just worse fighters overall hence why 1 spartan is equal to many elites. Brutes on the other hand are physically able to easily overpower spartans and are extraordinarily durablee, hence them usually being Spartan-killers
@@revan0890while most of that is true, if you were to take any one of those class S spartans and put them without any squad, essentially solo, they will not survive as long as MC. They might have one skill on lock, but hes the best solo spartan in the UNSC
Iron Man is a normal human relying on a suit. Master Chief is a super human that just happens to be outfitted with a super suit. Beating up Iron Man is like fighting an empty shell of a robot, it's all mechanical might. Cheif would man handle Steve because he has superior augments and super soldier training.
@@benjaminyang8476 Depends on whether you’re low balling Iron Man or not. Comic book Iron Man has a number of feats that can put him WAY higher than Chief, like tanking nukes, and knocking out the likes of She-Hulk.
@@donellebullock7404cap has never and can never beat hulk.yall stop pulling feats outta nowhere coz u like your favorite to win. cap fans are becoming rabid like Batman fanbois😤
@@LuckyDoggo4 Those scales on his suit are made of the similar metals that make his shield, which is a combination of vibranium and other metals, in some variants. Usually, though, it's Kevlar and titanium mix.
You need to remember that MC was trained from age 6 in advanced military tactics. Everyone thinks of the Spartans as tanks, but that’s just not true. They are the most advanced and highly trained special operations units in the UNSC’s history. The best special forces unit in the UNSC for normal soldiers is the ODST’s and they have beef with the Spartans because of how much better the Spartans are. Spartans are the best not because they are strong but because they always get the job done.
There is a race that is exactly this is Marvel called the Skull. Who do think wins that fight with Cap? Spartans are just a the B team minor op in the Marvel universe.
@@morganherr6621 Glad he is not too. Cap has depth. Chief if flat and boring. Not to mention a Mary Sue. Halo itself is just a weak ip. I cant be 'butt hurt' from people with no logical thought. lol. If any of you could actually could make a valid point I might think twice about your side. However Halo just does not stand up to Marvel. Thanos army in Avengers is what the spartans are equal to. Cap domes those chumps left and right. What makes you think that Chief could do anything to Cap?
@@jamesmedina5177 Actually, Thanos's entire army is far weaker than your Average Brute Chieftain, Thanos might be on par with your average Brute, but Chief is still going to win 100 times over, ontop of that Chief has more depth to him than you think, and is far from a Marry Sue, if Chief is then Cap is a bigger Marry Sue, that or the Skrull are just the weakest most pathetic military in the MCU, in which case Cap would lose to the far superior Grunts from Halo. Cap has LESS skills than Chief, and is far less lucky than Chief in fights, Chief fucking slaughters Cap.
Master chief regularly falls from orbit on his feet no problem and flips tanks and cars with ease. Captain America is good but he’s not that good. Edit: yes, Controversy. Ps. if you start comparing Captain America to Thanos, hulk, etc. then I guess he would win but I personally don't think he's even close to on par with any of those guys.
Except Tony's armor does that and more, the Cap just rips it apart. Kee in mind that the energy shield is the main reason Chief's armor is as good as it is, and since it has neural links, one good shot to the base of the neck, and Chief's dead. Caps' suit is made of vibranium as well, which is far better than Chief's suit. Cap survived blast far more powerful than terminal velocity.
It's not close. Don't forget, as a 14yr old kid, John ACCIDENTALLY killed several ODST troopers and permanently injured one in the weight room for trying to bully him long before the first time he ever wore the armor, in a fight that only lasted less than a minute. Cap would have had a much longer fight, and no one would've died from his punches.
UA-cam creator is… Bro… It’s not close. Chief petty officer John - 117 wins every single time against Captain America. “Regardless of physics or science” No. you need physics and science to make this video. No point in making this video if you don’t. Video loses credibility. Master chief’s augmentations are much more clearly defined than Steve Rogers. John’s augmentations are heavily documented and his weight and speed and height are all public knowledge too. Everything’s there. Look it up. Keep the comic book magic out of it and you’ll have a more interesting video. Less interesting otherwise. Assuming we’re talking fair and square Canon stats. No Magic plot armor super powers protecting Captain America via magic invulnerability or magic super power super strength. None of that. Just fully geared up pure raw Captain America with no shield against adult active duty John 117 in his Mjolnir armor with NO GUNS. No guns. No Captain America fancy super powers from his comics. No Captain America plot armor shield. No guns. Hand to hand only. Read John’s Canonical statistics. John can crush human skulls and rip limbs from torsos. Canonically he’s much heavier than Captain America and simply stepping on Captain America without stomping, just stepping on him, would crush Captain America’s bones. John’s canon speed is faster than Captain America’s speed too. John’s augmentations were superior to Captain America’s augmentations. John’s muscles are stronger, faster, more resilient, and his bones too. John can run faster and longer. John’s armor allows him to fall from orbit and survive via armor lock and other basic protections Doctor Catherine Elizabeth Halsey installed into her babies: Mjolnir. Only a Space Marine from Warhammer could stand a chance against John because a space marine is on the same level or higher than Atriox from HaloWars 2 yet even then John was heavily nerfed by ignorant developers from 343 Industries. Only Bungie era books and games can be relied upon for accuracy. 343 industries don’t respect the source material. I love Captain America. But he loses to John every time. Iron man man puts up more of a fight to John but still loses in Iron Man’s standard suit. No fancy hulk suit. The standard suit. Atriox and Warhammer Space Marines are the ones who stand a much better chance against Spartans 2s. Spartan 3s and 4s are pathetically easy for Atriox and Warhammer Space Marines. Spartan 2s are the best of the best and they can only be beaten by Space Marines and Atriox and above. Nothing less than that.
Master Chief wins this no contest. Keep in mind that I am in fact a Marvel fan for decades, but the difference in feats is vast. Also while both are super soldiers, Chief has NO problem going all out to win his fights as fast and as efficient as possible. Cap has a strong “ no killing “ rule that limits what he does. Cap has killed but it’s extremely rare. Going by the comics here. Chief has survived orbital laser strikes, jumps from orbit to earth side than walks it off. Both have training in hand to hand but Cap is only adept at it while Chief is again fast and efficient having started training at 6 years old. Cap was a teen when he got the serum and started his training. Chief can react at light speed levels and has proficiency with vast number weapons, human and alien. Can’t forget recharge shields on the armor Chief has. Finally I got to mention the incredible luck that Chief has, able to find whatever he needs to win.
To put it Into context, chief out of armour is basically the winter soldier. Chief in armour is Bucky in an iron man suit with Ultron level ai. Spartans don't even 'move' while in armour. What their Brain thinks the armour will do faster than the body can. So chief is faster stronger and because of ai smarter (probably smarter without ai too). It's a stupid question. Tbh it's not fair for captain.
@@demonic_myst4503spartans beat most warhammer space marines outside of the top 1%, spartans are much faster, stronger, and have faster reaction times as a baseline. But warhammer has too much inconsistency in lore and runs on "rule of cool" too much to apply real world physics and make comparisons (especially in the upper limits where its "space magic go bullshittery" and my special imaginary material is uber stronk because i say it is, and thus physics doesnt apply to it.)
Cap would first have to break through Chief’s energy shield. Then he’d somehow have to crack his titanium alloy armor that can resist impacts from orbit and small-arms fire. And even after all that, you’d still have a Chief that’s at least as strong as Cap outside his armor, if not stronger. Plus he has luck on his side.
@@codegeass5847 Yeah. I mean, Steve could *possibly* crack it (considering he gave Iron Man a whooping and a half), but that won’t happen before Chief beats him.
@@swolecapybara honestly, I don't think he could. Iron man's armour is just titanium alloys while chief's armour is molecularly strengthened titanium alloy.
@@kianrodgeclaud120 Isn’t Tony’s a titanium-gold alloy? Not like it helps because gold is super weak lol. But yeah, Cap doesn’t have anything to break Chief’s armor. He’d be lucky to even bring down the energy shield.
I think Master Chief is too fast even without his armor for Cap to get a significant edge against him: I haven't seen Steve pull off anything that could be compared to "Spartan time" as described in the Halo novels
I had to look it up and do math, captains reaction time is 10 times faster than a regular human, a regular human reaction time is 250 miliseconds, spartans have a reaction time of 20 miliseconds. Tldr captain is 10x average at 25 miliseconds Chief is 12.5x average at 20 miliseconds
@@ABenAbides in every metric I found that an average spartan has cap beat, I think sprint speed is the only advantage cap has, but he looses strength, durability, reaction time, and even battle experience (spartans regularly spar with each other when not on mission both in and out of armor). And the reaction time is without am ai augmenting it so it could be really bad with an ai assistant.
@@morgankuikka4940 That's where the incredibly low ~5ms reaction times get quoted iirc. The Mjolnir armor system's 'cushioning' layer is a supercomputer fluid, it's the gel layer mentioned in the opening sequence for Halo 2. That part is what allows top tier AI like Cortana to function fully within the suit, it's supposed to be the equivalent of running on a ship's AI mainframe/computers. When a Spartan-II has an AI on-board, the AI can process and crunch data from all the suit's sensors and send a pulse to the Spartan's neural implant to warn them about incoming attacks and effectively circumvent the spartan having to think about it themselves. The suit responds to the Spartan's input faster than there own body does, which is the other part of getting a meaningful effect from near instantaneous reflexes. I will say though, it's been quite a while since I did a deep dive on Halo lore, so I may be out of date if 343 or an author decided to retcon the Bungie era info.
@@Darth_Adi Not at all, Brutes alone were enough of a match for the Chief. And look what Atriox did to Chief, and he was just a stronger and slightly more intelligent Brute.
C'mon... you're saying MC, whose secret superpower is being "lucky", doesn't benefit from plot armor. Gtfo, Mjolnir armor didnt save the other spartans and it didnt save chief, plot armor did.
First, highly disrespectful to say that Chief can’t match Cap in hand to hand combat when he is one of the toughest fighters in hand to hand combat, Chief spent 8 years learning how to be a Spartan which includes highly advanced military fighting styles but he doesn’t need to fight hand to hand most of the time because of how skilled he is. Another thing, it’s crazy to say that Chief and Cap are equal in terms of raw physicality because Chief is definitely stronger, when the Chief was 14 he accidentally killed 4 ODST’s in a brawl with one punch, he caved in the skull of one, collapsed the chest cavity of another, and punched one so hard he snapped their spine and died, also one of the ODST’s that was watching the fight had said that when the Chief threw his punches he could hear the flesh and bones of his comrades tearing and shattering under the force of the Chief’s fist and all this happened when the Chief was 14 and at his weakest in his entire career without Mjolnir armor, in recent books one of Chief’s strength feats was stopping a mountain from collapsing and was holding it up by himself and granted it was in Mjolnir armor that increased his strength by a multiple of five but the even with the Mjolnir armor that is an extremely incredible feat. Not to mention you didn’t even say anything about Chief having Spartan time.
@@andylaw3222 For the books, no, for the games, nearly, but if 343 manages to turn their shit around and actually make a halfway decent game they might save the franchise.
He is talking just skill. As he said, Captain America is a master of every fighting style and martial art. If he seen a Spartan soldier fight, he would learn that style in minutes.
@@michaelholt8590 Realistically styles have limitations on how much they help a weaker person; no unarmed martial art is going to let a normal person take on a healthy, full grown elephant no matter how familiar that person is with the elephant’s fighting style
@@annodomini2012 Realistically? That's an unusual word to use in comparing two utterly fictional characters. The question of who is a more skilled fighter is not the same as asking who would win in a fight.
Important thing that people forget, captain america got a couple of MONTHS of training, most of his fights are carried by super strenght and speed, chief have a decade of super training
And youre forgetting chief started the most advanced hand to hand since 6 and advanced military tactics. And hes been fighting till 50 years old. @mariobadia4553
@@mariobadia4553okay….and how does that compare to someone who didn’t go to sleep and instead fought an interstellar war for decades against a superior force, and also an ancient parasite made out of god dust?
Did this dude just say Captain America is a better hand to hand fighter then say chief is a better fighter? Chief is a better hand to hand fighter hands down
@@JyFK_ He's not. You're going off the game cutscenes, at which point you might as well be comparing him to MCU Capt. Lore master chief vs comic book steve is what were doing, not what we see on screens. Chief is faster, their blurry to their opponents.
@@JyFK_ Spartans reaction time is almost incalculable because of the speed before they get into their mjolnir armor and Spartans also spar with other Spartans.
@@JyFK_ Spartans move so fast they see things in “spartan time” which means Caps speed would be slower and plus Chief has been a solder and fighting for so much longer than Cap
That's in the movies where, because they didn't have the rights to the X-Men at the time, the shield is just made of a Vibranium alloy. Adamantium is treated as an X-Men thing, so Marvel didn't have the rights to use it when they started the MCU. In the comics, the shield is made of an alloy of Vibranium and Adamantium.
@@guyveromega27 The shield is only made of Vibranium in the movies. In the comics its made of an alloy of Adamantium and Vibranium. Disney didn't own the rights to anything from The X-Men when they made the first Captain America movie, so they couldn't even mention Adamantium.
Thor dented it previously in the comics when he was king of Asgard. During some attack on his people and Steve tried to step in like Naruto with "I was just like you" got bitch slapped and got Thor angry again so he hit him slightly harder than casual and dented it. Later in Ragnarok his uncle, the serpent, broke it. Lifted it and tore it in half. Same story where Bucky got one shot by someone wielding a serpent hammer.
even better, the guy said chief had little to no technical skill but that cant be far from truth, he was literaly trained sinsce he was a kid by elite special operation soldiers, and its considered a really skilled fighter on hand to hand combat ans strategies, the games dont depict well at all that aspect where he feels more like a brute but the guy in reality its a beast, even the developers of the game had said that they are not able to depict just how strong the guy is in the games, but on the novels its better shown,(yes halo has novels/books) where even one time when he was barely testing the armor for the first time just casually punched a missile, to survive, that time he got just slightly injured on his arm but his current armor he can basically tank anything and make look the durability of most ironman's armors like a child play
Spartan Niome smashed thru a enemy stronghold ceiling to rescue one of the odsts on her team and was able to grab him and launch out of said stronghold
Even though each character is from a different world (or universe) we need to also consider what is peak human performance in order to judge super human performance. At one time, running faster than a 4 minute mile was considered impossible and yet there are peak performers who can do that now. It used to also be considered impossible to break the 20 mph barrier and now the record is over 23 mph. In the 90s figure skaters were considered in peak performance if they could land a triple jump, now quadruple jumps are the standard. This last year, 18 swimming time records were broken. Peak human performance is constantly changing and we can see that happening around us each year. Captain America is considered super human by our standards but Master Chief is considered super human not just by our standards but also 500 more years of evolution in peak human performance.
And what about Batman? He started the whole peak human superhero thing but people refer to him as a regular joe when he is anything but that. Cap needed a drug for him to become peak human but Batman got his status by learning techniques from monks to enhance his physical performance. Same thing with Daredevil.
Me and my coworker were just talking abt this the other day. I’m not a big halo fan so I was saying cap cuz his shield can resist a lot. Then my coworker gave me the rundown on cheif… I didn’t know he was like that lol. Also doesn’t he have some sort of luck on his side or something which is why he survives the orbit fall and stuff?? Kinda like the opposite of black cat, I was told he has some AI named Cortana who would calculate everything for cheif like iron man does
@zzirfamo24 Master Chief just becomes more powerful in ever game that comes out which includes in the lore. In the halo universe the spartans are seen as demigods.
Super soldier type characters have always interested me because I feel like it could be the next step in human evolution, it’s the most realistic, humans are constantly evolving and breaking records.
Yeah but our next step wont happen unless we move to another planet are threatened by a new species. Or in the super soldier route we need to modify genetics and probably some cybernetics at least for the first 4-5 generations maybe less.
Something that isn't mentioned is the raw destructive power of the SPNKR rocket launcher and the frag grenade. The Frag canonically leaves 4 foot deep holes, while the SPNKR has enough explosive yield to leave a 4 meter wide crater that's deep enough for chief to crawl out of. That shield may protect from the initial blast, but not the shockwave or superheated air around him. He'd be literally cooked alive There's also the Mk88 and Mk11 Spartan Tactical Knife. A superdense alloy capable of retaining an atomically sharp ege, resist the abuse of a demigod, and is strong and sharp emough to tear through the hyperdense alloy on Forerunner ships. Ships that very casually take a 10 ton tungsten Warhead travelling at the speed of 7% light. It's the bullshit knife. It could definitely pierce that shield
Comparing the Ironman armor to Master Chief's armor is like Comparing a scorpion tank to the spirit of fire. You also forget chief has batch mates with blue team and Jerome, fucking Jerome. Yet you have the gall to say chief had no one on his level to fight? Chief and Jerome lead the teams they do because Halsey realized how great of strategic minds John and Jerome are.
Saying an iron man suit is worse than mjolnir purely because of the age gaps really show how smart a halo fan can be at time,first off it’s irrelevant since different universe have different level of tech,oh are you gonna tell me the ultimate nullifier is obsolete compared to a mac canon because it appears in 21st century?I can write a steampunk novel with tech level that can laugh at 40k if I want,secondly in term of feats an iron man suit is way more advanced and powerful than even gen 3 mjolnir,most weapons that would prove fatal to a mjolnir users was like an inconvenience to an iron man suit,you can list every functionality of mjolnir here and i can debunked all of them,that’s just how bad mjolnir is compared to a 21st century junk made by a man in a cave with a box of scrap,high end iron man suit basically turn the user into a city to planet buster threat
@@decade9026 Master Chief in the books has actual super human powers. Dude can run fast than a scout vehicle and lift literal mountains. It would probably come down to AI vs AI, and if the other can disable the suit. tony is a normal human without his, Chief's armour is an augment to his already insane prowess.
@@decade9026mjolnir has energy shields, a gel layer that changes density and absorbs energy, has life support as it kept chief alive in the vacuum of space for six months, durable enough that it's completely invulnerable to small arms fire, and incredibly resistant to energy and plasma fire, the plasma pistol alone is like 3000 degrees Celsius, and can survive falls in orbit. Can you debunk this?
I wouldn't bet on Cap even if Chief was out of his armor. We're talking a trained from birth cybernetically and chemically enhanced biological weapon. Nearly incalculable reaction speed, truly superhuman strength and speed, and years of top special forces combat, tactics, AND hand-to-hand/martial arts training. He's a tall order of fuck around and find out, and THEN they put him in nearly a ton of super armor that makes all of that BETTER and allows a sentient AI to ride shotgun. No matter how talented and well trained Cap us, it's extremely unlikely that he actually has more training or combat experience than Chief does, and for everything else Chief's augmentations and gear are superior.
I should day trained nearly from birth. And on that point, the Spartan candidates were chosen specifically because they were exceptional even as normal children, and even then very few survived the augmentation process.
Unless they have some fantastical power, the Chief can solo them. The Halo lore puts a Spartan 2 on par with a frigate in terms of usefulness and expense to the war effort. Chief, as a veteran spartan 2 with a tonne of experience, is invaluable to humanity. No one ground level superhero matches that level. Remember, there is only two spartans that have the "hyper lethal" tag in the UNSC database; Master Chief and Noble 6. Hyper lethal basically being "this person stacks bodies so high and so fast that we need to find bigger graveyards anywhere these two are deployed."
Thor destroys entire planets in the comic books. This is a ridiculous statement. No, chief could not take on hero’s or villains like Thor, Hulk, Thanos, etc….
@SkyNinja759 I have to ask every member of blue team are very skilled in quite a few ways where chief is a jack of all trades and the luck of a hero (even losing the girl as part of the hero luck) but I forget his name the guy other guy on blue team. I remember chief saying that he was essentially better than chief in everyway but they just chose not to take the spot light or something. Why weren't him or the other considered hyper lethal in their own way or is the status of hyper lethal given more to amount of confirmed kills with efficiency, cause if it was efficiency more so then the other members of blue team would fill that role right? I am not that greatly knowledgeable but I also don't find any real answer for this question I have.
@@benjaminyang8476 Hyper lethal is a track record achievement. It's like getting your jump master wings, you have to cross an imaginary bar of X amount of jumps to get the tag. I don't know if you're talking about Fred, Blue team's leader when Chief was away doing the events of Halo, or Sam, the biggest/strongest Spartan 2. Fred was a step in, and Chief always had the "luck" X factor, Fred never stacked bodies as high to my knowledge. Sam died fairly early on, but he was just physically the biggest and strongest in the Spartan 2 program. You could be referring to Jerome, which is basically Halo's secondary spartan mascot at this point. I don't know much about him other than the entire Spirit of Fire ship being M.I.A. to the UNSC for decades until they returned in Halo Wars 2.
All he needs is a plasma grenade. One stick and the super heated air takes Steve out of the fight. Steve is like a Spartan 4 without armour, Chief is a unit of a Spartan 2.
brother, Chief would walk up to Cap, rip the shield from his hands and casually frisbee throw it to Mars. Cap's shield is literally not even a hint of a factor in any sort of fight against Chief lol.
Chief isn’t on the level of “scratching” his shield…. He just physically rips it and the arms it’s on off of Steve’s body and beats him to death with it.
Master chief was actively training against the best soldiers a multi-planetary government could provide since he was ten. He's lived nothing but war and war-adjacent topics his entire life. He is far more experienced than Steve, not merely in total but also specifically when it comes to combating enhanced super soldiers and alien combatants beyond human physical ability. Soon as Cap's shield is gone he is cooked.
Master Chief as fast enough reflexes to catch the shield and strong enough to. and he could probably use the shield with more strength not as much technique but Master Chief is easily coming out on top I like cap but it's kind of in the bag for chief
@@JyFK_Cortana is going to be scanning vitals like "this man has a weak knee, cripple it and the fightis over." Chief is Iron Man on steroids, the suit doesn't have missiles or beams like Tony's but it's giving him a huge edge.
Tbf it probably wouldn't take long for chief to be as good or even better with the shield than cap One thing Spartan 2s, especially chief, are known for, is just how fast they are able to adapt to combat situations, which is why they were able to come out on top against far superior enemies, due to being able to adapt and also use their own tech against them
we seem to forget how combat has developed in the past 500 years, and how much it will change in the next 530 years. as howard stark said "im limited by the technology of my time". cap may be a master of todays fighting, but with the extreme time gap between the 2 its safe to say chief would have better hand to hand knowledge even without the suit. at age 14, without mjonlir, chief tanked a round from a magnum straight to the gut. despite being a pistol, the magnum fires a .50 cal semi armour piercing high explosive round. yes it slowed him down heavily but he still completed his mission with his team.
Ok to all of you who are saying “Oh CaPtAiN aMeRiCa BeAtEd tHe HuLk aNd IrOn mAn He BeAtS cHiEf.” First of all you flipping tanks and vehicles in the game is canon, second of all imagine the Hulk, with year of military training, and a brain and you’ll get the Master Chief. Not to mention the Chief does all of his feats in heavy armor which I believe not alone enhanced his strength and speed but it’s also so powerful that if a normal person used it they would die. Oh and it’s like 1,000 pounds or 450kg also when Cap went against the Centari (Spelt that wrong but oh well) he was running out of breath and was hurting, meanwhile Chief is going against hordes of covenant which is basically super soldiers in their own (More so the Brutes, Elites, and Hunters) and beats them like it’s a normal day. And Cap got his Super solider serum from the 1940-1945 (I forgot the exact date) meanwhile Chief is from the far future so it’s just gonna be better overall, not to mention better tech but eh. Also at the age of 14 John killed 2 ODST’s and injured the rest and mind you ODST’s were humanities Finest before the Spartans and 2 died and the rest injured. Oh and Chief falls from orbit about every game and survives without a scratch
Don’t forget that any Spartan, not just chief can flip an entire fucking Elefant which is just crazy ridiculous. Also if you play around with halo CE you can give chief the ability to fly pelicans and if you have it upside down. He can flip it. Just to say the pelican is bigger than an AC-130 gunship and is heavier by tens of tons.
@@hellacoorinna9995 It’s Canon, how I know this? I’ve read lots of the books and I know practically all the lore. It’s 100% canon. Hell any Spartan can flip vehicles like tanks. There’s this vehicle called the elefant and it is absolutely massive plus heavier then the scorpion tank in the game yet any Spartan can flip it in less then a second.
@@The-Master-Chief I''m not saying you're _wrong._ But Spartans are supposed to be faster, too. I've read some of the books. But there's an element of seperation between book and games. Although I suspect the "Flip scorpion" in the games is because it's coded like the other vehicles. So you can flip it, even though as a tank it's significantly heavier than a warthog or a Banshee. But that still doesn't discount my question regarding 'if X then whynot Y?" Hell, I'm not the only one to ask this question. You only need to search on your search-engine of choice: *why can master chief flip tanks but he's affected by recoil*
@@hellacoorinna9995 yea although it is canon about the scorpion as it’s meant to be flipped, same with the Elefant, it’s an Easter egg as it’s hard to make it fall over but flipping it is as easy as a mongoose. About the recoil I think it’s just a dumb game feature in the newer games from reach to infinite and I don’t think that’s canon unless it’s a high calibre weapon.
If Cap gets his shield in this fight, them Master Chief gets his armor. So without it, I still think Master Chief would still win because he has been training and fighting for longer than Cap, but it would be pretty close. With his armor, would not be close. Chief grew up with the armor so you cannot compare the suit to iron man’s because he built it and is not a trained fighter so its not a good comparison
I don't know if it'd be close without the shield or armour. Chief is legitimately a meta human. Withut his armour he can still outrun Steve and Chef's reaction time is far better. If we ignore strength based feats, which Chief would still rock Steve in, Steve still wouldn't land a punch. Chief basically has spider sense, he can perceive the world in slow motion. Steve isn't landing a punch on that.
In comics Cap is roughly 87 ish and has spent most of his life fighting. I don't think Cap would win this fight but he does have a lot more fighting and training time than Chief.
Master Chief is like if you stick Captain America in an Ironman suit and trade out the thrusters for energy shields. Oh and multiply his strength and speed a few times
At 14 chief could punch with 4 tons of force and kick with twice that. He was effortlessly shattering the bones of the odst that attacked him. This was right after he recovered from his augmentations. He didn't realize how strong he became. At 40+ yrs old he gotta be atleast double that(outside of armor)
His shield is an alloy and it's been stated in comics and on screen that stronger metals exist. It's also broken numerous times in comics and broken apart on screen it's not indestructible
People don't realize how strategically minded Chief is, I mean, he literally can just out strategize cap and can very easily use his shield against him. This is why we read the books (:
100%. most elites are as strong if not stronger physically than spartans in early forms of the MK powered armor and brutes are much stronger (RIP Grace 093).
I feel like a covenant energy blade might be able to cut or stab through caps Vibranium shield I mean, vibraniums Melting point is 5,475 degrees Fahrenheit and since the covenant energy blade is made of plasma, that would make it extremely hot I mean, the plasma torches we use in real life can reach temperatures of 45,000° Fahrenheit So that energy blade should have no problem against cap shield, and would probably take his arm off too if he was still holding it
@@SkyNinja759 Captain America is almost always wearing Vibranium infused body armor. It's the scale mail you can see in some of the shots in this vid :)
@@firelord6659enlisted have never done as much as non comms, or they would be non comms. Chief is a non comm...and he wasn't enlisted, he was forcibly conscripted at age 6.
@@laurenfazenbaker9777This couldn’t be more inaccurate. First of all “Chief”and “Master Chief” are shorthands for the ENLISTED rank of Master Chief Petty Officer (E-9) the highest ENLISTED rank in the Navy. Second, non comms are enlisted. Non comm is short for non commissioned officers aka NCOs. Enlisted personnel, dependent on the branch, I will speak for the Marines here. Are NCOs after achieving the rank of Cpl and above. For the Navy I’m fairly sure it’s Petty Officer 3rd class. Could be wrong.
Captain America has two advantages. His hand-to-hand fighting and his shield. Chief: So what you're saying is, I need to take his shield away. Game, Set, Match.
@@benandring365 that is if he throws one. What if he throws one on his shield, and one behind him? Then he could follow of with 2 more nades right after that. His shield is a non factor here!
@@JosephYoung1830cap has hit an ICBM with a shield throw from the ground. You think he couldn't handle a couple grenades after being in ww2 and everything else since then?
Hello Major Halo Fan Here: So I already said Master Chief would win before the video started. I know enough about Captain America but I know everything about Master Chief. I played all the haloes, Seen all his fights and seen him literally destroy a Capitol Ship by Himself. In the Halo Books, he and His Fireteam took out a Covenant Mega Structure 3X the size of Earth and blew it up along with Many Capital Ship Fleets. This Guy is Unstoppable, He is Classified as HyperLethal in Halo Lore which means he’s the most important and powerful soldier in the entire UNSC. He was seen as Traitor Once, but the UNSC Cannot defeat him so they had to kinda let him do his thing, same with a lot of Other Spartans who are practically Slightly Weaker versions of Master Chief. Captain America is a great fighter and fought Gods and Universal Level Beings, but he never actually defeated them By HIMSELF, just puts up a Good Fight. Also Master Chiefs Armor alone with Out the Overshields and the additional Armor Abilities Is practically impenetrable, Only super Hot Plasma and Plasma Needles could actually Penetrate and Captain America doesn’t have that. The armor Abilities is too long to explain if you never played Halo, but it’s GG for Captain America if Chief haves Overshields which is an additional Shield over his already hard to penetrate Shields over his already Hard to penetrate Armour.😂😂😂 Like I can tell the @DanCo doesn’t play halo because this is a complete wash out. Chief was trained from when he was 6 Years Old to his like 56 Year Old Self, His Augmentation and yes That Armour Along with AI Cortana Which he simps for, and THE ARMOUR ABILITIES!??😅 Captain Getting his ass whooped. DanCo says Captain America is gonna get the edge off of will Power, No my friend Master Chief is called the Devil because he literally takes your Will Power and pummels you with it. That shield isn’t gonna do a damn thing If Master Chief haves an Energy Sword or Brute Hammer. Master Chief has the Ultimate Offensive and Defensive Weapon, which is why the UNSC lets him make the decision because he’s practically God in the Halo Universe. Literally the Forerunners are ancient aliens who basically Created the Humans and the Other Aliens, The Librarian in Halo 4 who is A Promethean said that “Master Chief is the works of a Thousand LifeTimes of Planning” He’s literally JESUS In the Halo Universe🤣🤣🤣 He was part of the Prophecy of the Forerunners The Forerunners are the Creators of the Existence which is The Halo Universe. So yeah Halo Jesus vs Captain America?? Easy Blow Out.
cap having his shield in the fight is just another weapon cheif can take to use against him too lol like imagine if cheif throw that shield at cap? fuckin flying pizza cutter piss missile XD
Master Chief destroys all the super soldier serum people from marvel and dc at the same time. Sentry excluded. But other soldier from games aka Doomslayer solos the whole of marvel dc and db at the same time anyways.
Cap has depth in the MCU, Chief also has Depth but people disregard that depth in favor for flat empty personality just to fit their OWN personality in his shoes. He has depth, I love when he has it in Halo 4, and Infinite. Shows the side of humanity he never shows anyone, no one except Cortana. I loved that so much especially when he fought a practical god amongst men, The Didact.
These are two of my favorite characters and as much as it pains me to say it master chief wins his transformation is much more drastic and beyond peak human physicality by comparison to captain America. Chief in his Mjolnir Powered Assault Armor can run faster than Cap. However they aren’t so different to be incomparable Chief just has more done to him.
Yes. Chief and the Spartans are literally like gods cap and other super soldiers haven’t reached that type of status. What I love about halo it has lore deep enough to go against other universes
I agree with your assessment and it is a breath of fresh air to see someone assess Cap by his comic book feats. Many people use Marvel’s reference material and categorize him as peak human. However, even the 616 version of Steve, by his accomplishments in the comic books, is solidly at superhuman levels. The man regularly demonstrates lift feats of around 2 tons. He dodges bullets because he can see their trajectory in real time and react in that time phase. His brain is a super computer that can process through mounds of data in a tactical environment so he can formulate well thought out plans in the middle of a fight. His shield throws are fully calculated, every bounce off every target (even moving ones) to where he will be when his plan dictates he will need it. And you covered it all. So thank you for doing Cap justice.
Personal opinion: Chief win outside of Mjolnir because he has taken down people inside power with punches and kicks hard enough to crack and disable the armor which was an early generation of Mjolnir Chief win easily in every Mjolnir Power Assault Armor except maybe gen II because it is capped at the base strength of a Spartan-II Chief with Mjolnir and AI whether it’s Cortana or the new Chief slaught Cap
Not to mention Cortana is inside his brain in the TV show so even without the armor he is still smarter and can counter a lot of caps attacks , and chief can analyze his surroundings quite well to his advantage
Masterchef (Halo) Vs Deathstroke (DC) Legolas (lord of the rings) vs Miles Quaritch (Avatar) Lady Deathstrike (Marvel) Vs Major Motoko Kusanagi (Ghost in the shell) Dark Angel (Dark Angel) Vs Black Widow (Marvel) Ironman (Marvel) Vs Batman Beyond (DC) Spiderman 2029 (Marvel) Vs Predator (Dark horse) Craven the hunter (Marvel) Vs Nightwing (DC) Spiderman (Marvel ) Vs Midnighter (DC) Mantoloking (Starwars) Vs Masterchief (Halo)
I agree with the outcome Master Chief is Cap, but better, but what version of Master Chief did you use in the video? Because if it's before Halo 4, then that's not him at his strongest. Remember, in Halo 4, he was made to be back to the level humans were before they were de-evolved by the Forrunners. So if you use Master Chief after Halo 4, I'd say even without his armor, he's beating Cap if they fight and unlike Cap Master Chief always has luck on his side it's actually a part of his character. I know people don't like using luck in fights, and yes, I don't myself in most cases, but it is a part of Chief's character and why Cortana chose him to be her partner.
As a Halo nerd, I don't see Halo 4 as fully canon. It rewrote a lot of the lore when it came out. Even then, Chief pre-"awakening" still solo's Steve easily. One is a super serum that enhances the patient to peak humanity. The other is physical treatments over a long period of time to enhance someone past what a human should be capable of doing. Then add in that Chief has sci-fi training regiments and a born/raised soldier. While Steve had WW2 era training, then recent/brief S.H.I.E.L.D. after he was thawed out. Chief basically has intense combat experience from 6 years old to his current self (49yrs), where he's been put in cryogenic stasis beween fights to preserve himself. Making more of his waking moments some sort of combat test or military formality. Steve is like a reservist to Master Chief's full time combat vet. They both serve but Chief's a bonified badass.
@SkyNinja759 I feel a bit of the same way as you when it comes to stuff to do with 343 but was just saying that depending on if the guy used pre Halo 4 or Halo 4 and after Chief with or with out the armor he'd win against Cap easily. And even though I think he could without the armor before Halo 4, I just mentioned it because of the fact he was given a power up by being returned to humans' full evolved capabilities and because weather we like it or not most making videos like this will use the stuff added by 343.
TBF John-117 is also a genius according to Halsey with a photographic memory. And he has just as much determination. He was trained since he was 6 with all forms of combat and a good portion was hand to hand. And the biggest factor I would say that would give chief the edge even out of armor is his Luck and his different mindset. Cap is a hero. Chief is an indomitable force that won’t pull his punches. He was trained to be a machine and later trained to be human by a machine(Cortana) “Before this is all over, promise me you'll figure out which one of us is the machine.” Cortana to John before …
MC is litterally Cap, but with Mjolnir armor, futuristic gear and weapons, and is colder. There's no way cap wins this, he's much like Sgt. Johnson. A superhuman, but not a goddamn Spartan! Actually, Johnson vs. Cap would be an interesting fight.
Technicaly ubderselling mc here , mc is the super soldeir of a futuristic society that can fuether enhance him and is deemed supee by standards of a dpace faring society Capt is a super soldeir by ww2 standards
Project Orion (Spartan 1, I would pluralize but it's just Johnson that survived) is basically the Marvel super soldier project of Halo. So I agree, have Steve verse Johnson. That would be a more even fight.
Master cheif is in his 60s and has been fighting for 50 of those years, he has super speed, strengh and durability, cap also has these but not to the same extent, and 117 has been trained in hand to hand combat scince he was six, not to mention Johns luck and the energy sheilds. Brutes and promethians have a tough time cracking his sheilds. Master cheif win with hardly any difficulty
Master chief is basically an all around better, more advanced version of cap from 500 years in the future. Chief wins. Chief began training at the age of 6.. Not including the time he was frozen chief has more fighting experience. Willpower is a toss up
Well when discussing feats. And looking at the enemies, cap has been a soldier for many years but chief has been a soldier basically all his life. Not to mention all he has to do is say boo, and his enemies are already terrified
Chief is the better fighter. He has been training in intense combat and warfare since a child. He was a super soldier before cap was even an enlisted soldier
I think deathstroke would have much faster reflexes though. I even think Cap has much faster reflexes than Chief, but these are all still great matches nonetheless.
@@Kyle72396 mastercheif swiped a missle out of the air with his arm and lived. His reflexes and reaction time is greater than both captain America and deathstroke and that's saying something
I think Chief’s best advantages against Cap is his strength & durability, but although very fast, I don’t think he has any speed feats or overall combat skill capabilities that are on the same level as Cap or Deathstroke imo.
@@Kyle72396u haven’t discovered what “spartan time” is in halo lore. These guys are way faster than the average enhanced supersoldiers in comics. The only superhero that isnt a speedster that is faster than the average spartan is Spider-Man. Death stroke is not keeping up with this guy
Lets not forget master chief was able to hold up a warthog sized boulder under a mountain while injured from his leg, and lifted a scarab that weighs 12k pounds that was on his leg. Master Chief can even speed blitz Captain America using spartan time which makes master chief see everything in slow motion including bullets and maybe lasers. Yeah Captain America is never winning against master chief.
I understand why you think Cap would win in hand to hand combat against Chief but I don’t even think that’s close. Chief had literally been training to fight since he was a child, constantly sparring with the children who are on par with him all the way up until blue team was separated. I think chief take it on hand to hand combat and it’s not even close
You forgot about Master Chiefs Luck. It's his superpower.
That's why Cortana Chose Him because out of everyone he had the most luck.
😊 Great point forgot about that one.
And if you guys remember. He also have a grappling cord That can aid him in scaling moutains buildings, And spacecrafts. He can also use that cord To attack his enemies.
Luck & exploding stuff
No, its not his Superpower, it's what differentiates him from the rest of the spartan 2s
Master Chief. This isn't a comparison unless you over sell Capt. Which you did here. You took his peak accolades from every universe and sold that as him in a single person.
It's kind of what this guy does.
This is why I don't argue with comic book guys when it comes to DC/Marvel, or Legends guys when it comes to Star Wars. There's always one or two obscure/outlandish stories that boost characters' power levels to completely and utterly insane, unobtainable heights because the comic writer wanted them to be OP.
I use the MCU Cap as a genuinely accurate representation of what Captain America could achieve, because at the end of the day Cap is peak-human, the best of what a completely biological and pure human could ever be. Chief is a step above that, augmented beyond peak human, and honestly when Mjolnir is thrown into the picture, it shouldn't even be that close. Unarmored, Chief can match Cap's speed and strength. With armor, I'm sorry Cap fans, there's not much of a contest. But they'll always point to some one-off comic where cap fought a god or blew up a star or some other laughable, ridiculous feat and try to use that as the rule. So don't even bother. 😂
Stop ruining their personal fantasy, this guy thinks hes gonna get a vat tank treatment to super soldier
I don't think we accounted for the fact that master chief could literally grab caps shield the second cap throws it and either use it or chuck it really far away because I think master chief and his Ai are smart enough to know that the shield that seems really powerful doesn't need to be in caps hands
Man said cpt americas shield wasn’t broken by thanos😭😭
Captain America: “I can do this all day, Chief.”
Master Chief: “Like Hell you are.”
Not with a hand grenade stuck in his bootie, he can't. 😂😂😂
@@redfaux74tanks the hand grenade snaps Steve’s neck
LMAO these replies 💀💀💀
@@ILikeToHatemaster clap
I feel like master chief has unlimited stamina bc he doesn't put in any effort, mulnir armor does all the work. So if they are evenly matched as military men, then John halo wins due to being able to outlast cap
So basically, Master Chief is ridiculously overpowered. And then they gave him a suit to make him invincible.
@@KillTheDragon05 play halo mate , its an amazing franchise and it you play halo 1 , 2 , and 3 , youll see that chief is invincible to almost everything
When you’re playing it on the easiest setting, it’s basically lore accurate Master Chief 😂
What's crazy is that he isn't even the best Spartan II. Not the biggest, strongest, fastest, smartest, best shot, best CQC fighter, or anything really besides perhaps leadership. He is considered to be the luckiest. And what's crazy is that the Elite enemies are all physically stronger and faster than any Spartan.
@@revan0890 Elites are physically equal to a suited Spartan in strength, but are notably slower both in speed and reaction time, and also are just worse fighters overall hence why 1 spartan is equal to many elites. Brutes on the other hand are physically able to easily overpower spartans and are extraordinarily durablee, hence them usually being Spartan-killers
@@revan0890while most of that is true, if you were to take any one of those class S spartans and put them without any squad, essentially solo, they will not survive as long as MC. They might have one skill on lock, but hes the best solo spartan in the UNSC
Knocking iron Man around is very different than knocking chief around
I checked and yeah chief in armor weighs(1000 pounds) over double Iron Man's weight(425 pounds) while in armor
@@legion5737not to mention he can still run, jump, slide, flip, and do more while in said suit
@OmegaCT55555 while being heavier other than flying especially with cortana he out classes iron man overall
Iron Man is a normal human relying on a suit. Master Chief is a super human that just happens to be outfitted with a super suit.
Beating up Iron Man is like fighting an empty shell of a robot, it's all mechanical might. Cheif would man handle Steve because he has superior augments and super soldier training.
@@benjaminyang8476
Depends on whether you’re low balling Iron Man or not. Comic book Iron Man has a number of feats that can put him WAY higher than Chief, like tanking nukes, and knocking out the likes of She-Hulk.
"Press X to flip tank". My money is on the guy that can easily flip a tank and then proceed to punish his enemies with it.
Mine's on he guy with armor on par with Wakanda'a and beats planet-busters like Hulk.
@@donellebullock7404same he can slice the tank in half with the shield he did it multiple times
@donellebullock7404 His suit is not made of vibranium only his shield is.
@@donellebullock7404cap has never and can never beat hulk.yall stop pulling feats outta nowhere coz u like your favorite to win. cap fans are becoming rabid like Batman fanbois😤
@@LuckyDoggo4 Those scales on his suit are made of the similar metals that make his shield, which is a combination of vibranium and other metals, in some variants. Usually, though, it's Kevlar and titanium mix.
You need to remember that MC was trained from age 6 in advanced military tactics. Everyone thinks of the Spartans as tanks, but that’s just not true. They are the most advanced and highly trained special operations units in the UNSC’s history. The best special forces unit in the UNSC for normal soldiers is the ODST’s and they have beef with the Spartans because of how much better the Spartans are. Spartans are the best not because they are strong but because they always get the job done.
There is a race that is exactly this is Marvel called the Skull. Who do think wins that fight with Cap? Spartans are just a the B team minor op in the Marvel universe.
@@jamesmedina5177 don't sound so butt hurt that your man lost cap is great but he ain't chief
@@morganherr6621 Glad he is not too. Cap has depth. Chief if flat and boring. Not to mention a Mary Sue. Halo itself is just a weak ip. I cant be 'butt hurt' from people with no logical thought. lol. If any of you could actually could make a valid point I might think twice about your side. However Halo just does not stand up to Marvel. Thanos army in Avengers is what the spartans are equal to. Cap domes those chumps left and right. What makes you think that Chief could do anything to Cap?
@@jamesmedina5177chief is niether flat nor boring he has more depth in his thighs than most iterations of captain america has in his entire run
@@jamesmedina5177 Actually, Thanos's entire army is far weaker than your Average Brute Chieftain, Thanos might be on par with your average Brute, but Chief is still going to win 100 times over, ontop of that Chief has more depth to him than you think, and is far from a Marry Sue, if Chief is then Cap is a bigger Marry Sue, that or the Skrull are just the weakest most pathetic military in the MCU, in which case Cap would lose to the far superior Grunts from Halo. Cap has LESS skills than Chief, and is far less lucky than Chief in fights, Chief fucking slaughters Cap.
Avengers: master chief, can you tell us why you’re on that ship?
Chief: sir, finishing this fight.
See the funny what he said sir I have absolutely no f***ing idea🤣
@@aminyahouse3616 the scene he's on the ship
@@fictionrumble you both confused eachother lol.
@@zerrierslizer1 😆
Master chief regularly falls from orbit on his feet no problem and flips tanks and cars with ease. Captain America is good but he’s not that good.
Edit: yes, Controversy. Ps. if you start comparing Captain America to Thanos, hulk, etc. then I guess he would win but I personally don't think he's even close to on par with any of those guys.
L comment. I love master chief more but still L comment u jus don’t know
Cap regularly beats characters with similar abilities in the marvel Univiverse.
Except Tony's armor does that and more, the Cap just rips it apart. Kee in mind that the energy shield is the main reason Chief's armor is as good as it is, and since it has neural links, one good shot to the base of the neck, and Chief's dead. Caps' suit is made of vibranium as well, which is far better than Chief's suit. Cap survived blast far more powerful than terminal velocity.
@@cohenchavo951capt counters tank with his shield.he sliced tanks in half with it countless times
Nah, having fought the Hulk instantly puts Cap at a higher level than Chief.
It's not close. Don't forget, as a 14yr old kid, John ACCIDENTALLY killed several ODST troopers and permanently injured one in the weight room for trying to bully him long before the first time he ever wore the armor, in a fight that only lasted less than a minute. Cap would have had a much longer fight, and no one would've died from his punches.
Oh yeah he was still adjusting to very dangerous augmentation so can say he was weaker then
Finally a man of lore
Also his suit weighs 1k lbs, and he runs FASTER then the marines no problem.
UA-cam creator is… Bro… It’s not close.
Chief petty officer John - 117 wins every single time against Captain America.
“Regardless of physics or science” No. you need physics and science to make this video. No point in making this video if you don’t. Video loses credibility.
Master chief’s augmentations are much more clearly defined than Steve Rogers. John’s augmentations are heavily documented and his weight and speed and height are all public knowledge too. Everything’s there. Look it up.
Keep the comic book magic out of it and you’ll have a more interesting video. Less interesting otherwise.
Assuming we’re talking fair and square Canon stats. No Magic plot armor super powers protecting Captain America via magic invulnerability or magic super power super strength. None of that.
Just fully geared up pure raw Captain America with no shield against adult active duty John 117 in his Mjolnir armor with NO GUNS. No guns. No Captain America fancy super powers from his comics. No Captain America plot armor shield. No guns.
Hand to hand only.
Read John’s Canonical statistics.
John can crush human skulls and rip limbs from torsos. Canonically he’s much heavier than Captain America and simply stepping on Captain America without stomping, just stepping on him, would crush Captain America’s bones.
John’s canon speed is faster than Captain America’s speed too. John’s augmentations were superior to Captain America’s augmentations. John’s muscles are stronger, faster, more resilient, and his bones too.
John can run faster and longer.
John’s armor allows him to fall from orbit and survive via armor lock and other basic protections Doctor Catherine Elizabeth Halsey installed into her babies: Mjolnir.
Only a Space Marine from Warhammer could stand a chance against John because a space marine is on the same level or higher than Atriox from HaloWars 2 yet even then John was heavily nerfed by ignorant developers from 343 Industries.
Only Bungie era books and games can be relied upon for accuracy. 343 industries don’t respect the source material.
I love Captain America.
But he loses to John every time.
Iron man man puts up more of a fight to John but still loses in Iron Man’s standard suit. No fancy hulk suit. The standard suit.
Atriox and Warhammer Space Marines are the ones who stand a much better chance against Spartans 2s. Spartan 3s and 4s are pathetically easy for Atriox and Warhammer Space Marines. Spartan 2s are the best of the best and they can only be beaten by Space Marines and Atriox and above. Nothing less than that.
Silent storm was an amazing book… but to be fair those ODST’s are normal people. Not exactly captain America level😂
Master Chief wins this no contest. Keep in mind that I am in fact a Marvel fan for decades, but the difference in feats is vast. Also while both are super soldiers, Chief has NO problem going all out to win his fights as fast and as efficient as possible. Cap has a strong “ no killing “ rule that limits what he does. Cap has killed but it’s extremely rare. Going by the comics here. Chief has survived orbital laser strikes, jumps from orbit to earth side than walks it off. Both have training in hand to hand but Cap is only adept at it while Chief is again fast and efficient having started training at 6 years old. Cap was a teen when he got the serum and started his training. Chief can react at light speed levels and has proficiency with vast number weapons, human and alien. Can’t forget recharge shields on the armor Chief has. Finally I got to mention the incredible luck that Chief has, able to find whatever he needs to win.
To put it Into context, chief out of armour is basically the winter soldier. Chief in armour is Bucky in an iron man suit with Ultron level ai. Spartans don't even 'move' while in armour. What their Brain thinks the armour will do faster than the body can. So chief is faster stronger and because of ai smarter (probably smarter without ai too). It's a stupid question. Tbh it's not fair for captain.
Master Chief punched a nuke, nuff said
Cap is great but spartans and space marines are a rung above the super soldiers created by his serum
This master cheif is like second best supernsoldeir in fixtion just after warhammer space marines
@@demonic_myst4503 is doom guy considered a supersoldier?
@@m4x927probably a Super soldier mixed with a God
@@m4x927 no he wasnt created by some project for a pourpose he just a suoer human
@@demonic_myst4503spartans beat most warhammer space marines outside of the top 1%, spartans are much faster, stronger, and have faster reaction times as a baseline.
But warhammer has too much inconsistency in lore and runs on "rule of cool" too much to apply real world physics and make comparisons (especially in the upper limits where its "space magic go bullshittery" and my special imaginary material is uber stronk because i say it is, and thus physics doesnt apply to it.)
Cap would first have to break through Chief’s energy shield. Then he’d somehow have to crack his titanium alloy armor that can resist impacts from orbit and small-arms fire. And even after all that, you’d still have a Chief that’s at least as strong as Cap outside his armor, if not stronger. Plus he has luck on his side.
Chief suit uses spacewarship grades titanium alloy armour as armour,there is no way cap getting through,
Whoever says cap getting through is capping.
@@codegeass5847 Yeah. I mean, Steve could *possibly* crack it (considering he gave Iron Man a whooping and a half), but that won’t happen before Chief beats him.
@@swolecapybara honestly, I don't think he could. Iron man's armour is just titanium alloys while chief's armour is molecularly strengthened titanium alloy.
@@kianrodgeclaud120 Isn’t Tony’s a titanium-gold alloy? Not like it helps because gold is super weak lol. But yeah, Cap doesn’t have anything to break Chief’s armor. He’d be lucky to even bring down the energy shield.
@@swolecapybara I think it was nickel titanium or something mixed with aluminum. At least in the mcu
I think Master Chief is too fast even without his armor for Cap to get a significant edge against him: I haven't seen Steve pull off anything that could be compared to "Spartan time" as described in the Halo novels
I had to look it up and do math, captains reaction time is 10 times faster than a regular human, a regular human reaction time is 250 miliseconds, spartans have a reaction time of 20 miliseconds.
Tldr captain is 10x average at 25 miliseconds
Chief is 12.5x average at 20 miliseconds
@@morgankuikka4940 Nice! Thanks for doing that! So it's closer than we thought, but Spartans still have a slight edge
@@ABenAbides in every metric I found that an average spartan has cap beat, I think sprint speed is the only advantage cap has, but he looses strength, durability, reaction time, and even battle experience (spartans regularly spar with each other when not on mission both in and out of armor).
And the reaction time is without am ai augmenting it so it could be really bad with an ai assistant.
@@morgankuikka4940 That's where the incredibly low ~5ms reaction times get quoted iirc. The Mjolnir armor system's 'cushioning' layer is a supercomputer fluid, it's the gel layer mentioned in the opening sequence for Halo 2. That part is what allows top tier AI like Cortana to function fully within the suit, it's supposed to be the equivalent of running on a ship's AI mainframe/computers. When a Spartan-II has an AI on-board, the AI can process and crunch data from all the suit's sensors and send a pulse to the Spartan's neural implant to warn them about incoming attacks and effectively circumvent the spartan having to think about it themselves. The suit responds to the Spartan's input faster than there own body does, which is the other part of getting a meaningful effect from near instantaneous reflexes.
I will say though, it's been quite a while since I did a deep dive on Halo lore, so I may be out of date if 343 or an author decided to retcon the Bungie era info.
@@morgankuikka4940Was gonna mention that smart AIs actually increase that reaction time even further. Most likely in the range of 10-15 milliseconds
Cap would be folded like an 8 layerd lasagna
Lmao so true brother. 😂 chief is just a mean machine!
@@abhishekmukherji2332 i believe the term your looking for is the classification of "hyper lethal"
@@StrifeA217 hell ya brother
@@StrifeA217 not just "Hyper Lethal" but a "Hyper Lethal Vector"
Cap or a Spartan 4 would probably be a better fight
This is like comparing Iron Man in his suit, versus a 14 year old who trained a bit in karate
😂
Some of the elites and brutes that he's killed could have torn captain america to fucking shreds
Correction. EVERY brute! 😅
I think chief wins too but your lowballing cap here
@@Darth_Adi Not at all, Brutes alone were enough of a match for the Chief. And look what Atriox did to Chief, and he was just a stronger and slightly more intelligent Brute.
@Darth_Adi
Every single Brute in Halo is comparable to Thanos in strength
And he goes into battle with them very often & wins
@@valediction9174 Brother fucking what? Is your source "trust me bro", Thanos would literally pull Brutes apart with his bare hands.
Captain America has plot armor. Unarmored Chief can easily take his shield and slap the bitch out of Captain America with it.
This comment has no right making me laugh that hard. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Lol I'm dieing, and that's true af
C'mon... you're saying MC, whose secret superpower is being "lucky", doesn't benefit from plot armor. Gtfo, Mjolnir armor didnt save the other spartans and it didnt save chief, plot armor did.
@@chill_will9816 ?? It has saved cheif. Several of times, when he fell from orbit, TWICE, when he got his ass wiped by Atriox, and so on.
First, highly disrespectful to say that Chief can’t match Cap in hand to hand combat when he is one of the toughest fighters in hand to hand combat, Chief spent 8 years learning how to be a Spartan which includes highly advanced military fighting styles but he doesn’t need to fight hand to hand most of the time because of how skilled he is. Another thing, it’s crazy to say that Chief and Cap are equal in terms of raw physicality because Chief is definitely stronger, when the Chief was 14 he accidentally killed 4 ODST’s in a brawl with one punch, he caved in the skull of one, collapsed the chest cavity of another, and punched one so hard he snapped their spine and died, also one of the ODST’s that was watching the fight had said that when the Chief threw his punches he could hear the flesh and bones of his comrades tearing and shattering under the force of the Chief’s fist and all this happened when the Chief was 14 and at his weakest in his entire career without Mjolnir armor, in recent books one of Chief’s strength feats was stopping a mountain from collapsing and was holding it up by himself and granted it was in Mjolnir armor that increased his strength by a multiple of five but the even with the Mjolnir armor that is an extremely incredible feat. Not to mention you didn’t even say anything about Chief having Spartan time.
There are still new Halo books???????
Isn't the series dead?
@@andylaw3222 For the books, no, for the games, nearly, but if 343 manages to turn their shit around and actually make a halfway decent game they might save the franchise.
He is talking just skill. As he said, Captain America is a master of every fighting style and martial art. If he seen a Spartan soldier fight, he would learn that style in minutes.
@@michaelholt8590 Realistically styles have limitations on how much they help a weaker person; no unarmed martial art is going to let a normal person take on a healthy, full grown elephant no matter how familiar that person is with the elephant’s fighting style
@@annodomini2012 Realistically? That's an unusual word to use in comparing two utterly fictional characters.
The question of who is a more skilled fighter is not the same as asking who would win in a fight.
Important thing that people forget, captain america got a couple of MONTHS of training, most of his fights are carried by super strenght and speed, chief have a decade of super training
You're really forgetting about the fact That after he wakes up. He starts training in many, many different forms of combat..
@@mariobadia4553but it was stated that he never mastered them if I recall
And youre forgetting chief started the most advanced hand to hand since 6 and advanced military tactics. And hes been fighting till 50 years old. @mariobadia4553
@@mariobadia4553okay….and how does that compare to someone who didn’t go to sleep and instead fought an interstellar war for decades against a superior force, and also an ancient parasite made out of god dust?
Did this dude just say Captain America is a better hand to hand fighter then say chief is a better fighter? Chief is a better hand to hand fighter hands down
Chief is slower in hand to hand but faster in maneuvering
@@JyFK_ He's not. You're going off the game cutscenes, at which point you might as well be comparing him to MCU Capt.
Lore master chief vs comic book steve is what were doing, not what we see on screens. Chief is faster, their blurry to their opponents.
@@JyFK_ Spartans reaction time is almost incalculable because of the speed before they get into their mjolnir armor and Spartans also spar with other Spartans.
@@JyFK_ Spartans move so fast they see things in “spartan time” which means Caps speed would be slower and plus Chief has been a solder and fighting for so much longer than Cap
@@Hybred exactly, they can’t put a lore accurate character as great and powerful as a true spartan In a game
"His shield is literally indestructible." If this is true how did it break during end game xD
That's in the movies where, because they didn't have the rights to the X-Men at the time, the shield is just made of a Vibranium alloy. Adamantium is treated as an X-Men thing, so Marvel didn't have the rights to use it when they started the MCU. In the comics, the shield is made of an alloy of Vibranium and Adamantium.
Disney can't figure out how lightsaber work. I chalk it up to Disney not understanding the properties they appropriate.
@@guyveromega27 The shield is only made of Vibranium in the movies. In the comics its made of an alloy of Adamantium and Vibranium. Disney didn't own the rights to anything from The X-Men when they made the first Captain America movie, so they couldn't even mention Adamantium.
Thor dented it previously in the comics when he was king of Asgard. During some attack on his people and Steve tried to step in like Naruto with "I was just like you" got bitch slapped and got Thor angry again so he hit him slightly harder than casual and dented it. Later in Ragnarok his uncle, the serpent, broke it. Lifted it and tore it in half. Same story where Bucky got one shot by someone wielding a serpent hammer.
Read the comics for the original source material. The shield cannot be broken. Comic book Cap and Master Chief would be a much closer fight.
Chief is like Cap in Ironman's armor. And Cortana is his secret weapon. Sorry, Cap is going down.
even better, the guy said chief had little to no technical skill but that cant be far from truth, he was literaly trained sinsce he was a kid by elite special operation soldiers, and its considered a really skilled fighter on hand to hand combat ans strategies, the games dont depict well at all that aspect where he feels more like a brute but the guy in reality its a beast, even the developers of the game had said that they are not able to depict just how strong the guy is in the games, but on the novels its better shown,(yes halo has novels/books) where even one time when he was barely testing the armor for the first time just casually punched a missile, to survive, that time he got just slightly injured on his arm but his current armor he can basically tank anything and make look the durability of most ironman's armors like a child play
Iron man's armor is obsolete compared to chiefs
@@RRagan Well the flying would come in useful. And Ironman's armor can form weapons. But Chief's armor is just armor, and it excels at protection.
@@ripstakeyou haven’t read kilo seven series then because canonically Spartans can fly
Spartan Niome smashed thru a enemy stronghold ceiling to rescue one of the odsts on her team and was able to grab him and launch out of said stronghold
Even though each character is from a different world (or universe) we need to also consider what is peak human performance in order to judge super human performance. At one time, running faster than a 4 minute mile was considered impossible and yet there are peak performers who can do that now. It used to also be considered impossible to break the 20 mph barrier and now the record is over 23 mph. In the 90s figure skaters were considered in peak performance if they could land a triple jump, now quadruple jumps are the standard. This last year, 18 swimming time records were broken. Peak human performance is constantly changing and we can see that happening around us each year. Captain America is considered super human by our standards but Master Chief is considered super human not just by our standards but also 500 more years of evolution in peak human performance.
And what about Batman? He started the whole peak human superhero thing but people refer to him as a regular joe when he is anything but that. Cap needed a drug for him to become peak human but Batman got his status by learning techniques from monks to enhance his physical performance. Same thing with Daredevil.
Also big diference between muscles growing by a serum vs cubernetic enhancments and psychological confitioning feom childhood
Me and my coworker were just talking abt this the other day. I’m not a big halo fan so I was saying cap cuz his shield can resist a lot. Then my coworker gave me the rundown on cheif… I didn’t know he was like that lol. Also doesn’t he have some sort of luck on his side or something which is why he survives the orbit fall and stuff?? Kinda like the opposite of black cat, I was told he has some AI named Cortana who would calculate everything for cheif like iron man does
@zzirfamo24 Master Chief just becomes more powerful in ever game that comes out which includes in the lore. In the halo universe the spartans are seen as demigods.
Cortana? My Lenovo Computer had the same speech assistant
@@spawn2414 And
Did he give some additional power from the librarian Made him even more invincible against Front runner Attacks.
yeah Cortana is like Friday from iron mans suit but 10x better and smarter
@@JyFK_ and 100X more homicidal.
Super soldier type characters have always interested me because I feel like it could be the next step in human evolution, it’s the most realistic, humans are constantly evolving and breaking records.
Yeah but our next step wont happen unless we move to another planet are threatened by a new species. Or in the super soldier route we need to modify genetics and probably some cybernetics at least for the first 4-5 generations maybe less.
Something that isn't mentioned is the raw destructive power of the SPNKR rocket launcher and the frag grenade. The Frag canonically leaves 4 foot deep holes, while the SPNKR has enough explosive yield to leave a 4 meter wide crater that's deep enough for chief to crawl out of. That shield may protect from the initial blast, but not the shockwave or superheated air around him. He'd be literally cooked alive
There's also the Mk88 and Mk11 Spartan Tactical Knife. A superdense alloy capable of retaining an atomically sharp ege, resist the abuse of a demigod, and is strong and sharp emough to tear through the hyperdense alloy on Forerunner ships. Ships that very casually take a 10 ton tungsten Warhead travelling at the speed of 7% light. It's the bullshit knife. It could definitely pierce that shield
Thank you for describing the high tech, I mean SUPER high tech variant of Thanos’ sword.
Nobody ever shot Cap in the head in the movies for a reason, end titles would start
Fax headshot from Spartan John and it’s over
Comparing the Ironman armor to Master Chief's armor is like Comparing a scorpion tank to the spirit of fire. You also forget chief has batch mates with blue team and Jerome, fucking Jerome. Yet you have the gall to say chief had no one on his level to fight? Chief and Jerome lead the teams they do because Halsey realized how great of strategic minds John and Jerome are.
Chief has fought the flood. A galactic bio-horror with insane levels of strength.
Chief has tested his mettle. He's more experienced than Steve.
Saying an iron man suit is worse than mjolnir purely because of the age gaps really show how smart a halo fan can be at time,first off it’s irrelevant since different universe have different level of tech,oh are you gonna tell me the ultimate nullifier is obsolete compared to a mac canon because it appears in 21st century?I can write a steampunk novel with tech level that can laugh at 40k if I want,secondly in term of feats an iron man suit is way more advanced and powerful than even gen 3 mjolnir,most weapons that would prove fatal to a mjolnir users was like an inconvenience to an iron man suit,you can list every functionality of mjolnir here and i can debunked all of them,that’s just how bad mjolnir is compared to a 21st century junk made by a man in a cave with a box of scrap,high end iron man suit basically turn the user into a city to planet buster threat
@@decade9026 Master Chief in the books has actual super human powers. Dude can run fast than a scout vehicle and lift literal mountains.
It would probably come down to AI vs AI, and if the other can disable the suit. tony is a normal human without his, Chief's armour is an augment to his already insane prowess.
@@decade9026mjolnir has energy shields, a gel layer that changes density and absorbs energy, has life support as it kept chief alive in the vacuum of space for six months, durable enough that it's completely invulnerable to small arms fire, and incredibly resistant to energy and plasma fire, the plasma pistol alone is like 3000 degrees Celsius, and can survive falls in orbit.
Can you debunk this?
Can the iron man suit survive being shot with forerunner weapons?
I wouldn't bet on Cap even if Chief was out of his armor. We're talking a trained from birth cybernetically and chemically enhanced biological weapon. Nearly incalculable reaction speed, truly superhuman strength and speed, and years of top special forces combat, tactics, AND hand-to-hand/martial arts training. He's a tall order of fuck around and find out, and THEN they put him in nearly a ton of super armor that makes all of that BETTER and allows a sentient AI to ride shotgun. No matter how talented and well trained Cap us, it's extremely unlikely that he actually has more training or combat experience than Chief does, and for everything else Chief's augmentations and gear are superior.
I should day trained nearly from birth. And on that point, the Spartan candidates were chosen specifically because they were exceptional even as normal children, and even then very few survived the augmentation process.
Master chief can take on most heroes and villains in MCU.
Unless they have some fantastical power, the Chief can solo them.
The Halo lore puts a Spartan 2 on par with a frigate in terms of usefulness and expense to the war effort. Chief, as a veteran spartan 2 with a tonne of experience, is invaluable to humanity.
No one ground level superhero matches that level.
Remember, there is only two spartans that have the "hyper lethal" tag in the UNSC database; Master Chief and Noble 6. Hyper lethal basically being "this person stacks bodies so high and so fast that we need to find bigger graveyards anywhere these two are deployed."
Thor destroys entire planets in the comic books. This is a ridiculous statement. No, chief could not take on hero’s or villains like Thor, Hulk, Thanos, etc….
@@Viper31300 he said unless they have fantastical power, that included thor etc and hulk more angry he gets stronger etc
@SkyNinja759 I have to ask every member of blue team are very skilled in quite a few ways where chief is a jack of all trades and the luck of a hero (even losing the girl as part of the hero luck) but I forget his name the guy other guy on blue team. I remember chief saying that he was essentially better than chief in everyway but they just chose not to take the spot light or something. Why weren't him or the other considered hyper lethal in their own way or is the status of hyper lethal given more to amount of confirmed kills with efficiency, cause if it was efficiency more so then the other members of blue team would fill that role right?
I am not that greatly knowledgeable but I also don't find any real answer for this question I have.
@@benjaminyang8476 Hyper lethal is a track record achievement. It's like getting your jump master wings, you have to cross an imaginary bar of X amount of jumps to get the tag.
I don't know if you're talking about Fred, Blue team's leader when Chief was away doing the events of Halo, or Sam, the biggest/strongest Spartan 2. Fred was a step in, and Chief always had the "luck" X factor, Fred never stacked bodies as high to my knowledge. Sam died fairly early on, but he was just physically the biggest and strongest in the Spartan 2 program.
You could be referring to Jerome, which is basically Halo's secondary spartan mascot at this point. I don't know much about him other than the entire Spirit of Fire ship being M.I.A. to the UNSC for decades until they returned in Halo Wars 2.
"None of chiefs weapons will scratch his shield"
Master chief with spartan laser: no need to leave a scratch, ill leave a scortch mark!
Pretty sure a rocket launcher would do the job too lol
All he needs is a plasma grenade. One stick and the super heated air takes Steve out of the fight.
Steve is like a Spartan 4 without armour, Chief is a unit of a Spartan 2.
i was like "just aim for the not shield areas???"
brother, Chief would walk up to Cap, rip the shield from his hands and casually frisbee throw it to Mars. Cap's shield is literally not even a hint of a factor in any sort of fight against Chief lol.
Chief isn’t on the level of “scratching” his shield…. He just physically rips it and the arms it’s on off of Steve’s body and beats him to death with it.
Master chief was actively training against the best soldiers a multi-planetary government could provide since he was ten. He's lived nothing but war and war-adjacent topics his entire life. He is far more experienced than Steve, not merely in total but also specifically when it comes to combating enhanced super soldiers and alien combatants beyond human physical ability. Soon as Cap's shield is gone he is cooked.
Title: Isn't Even Close. 13:26 : "It's a close fight."
Title isn’t even CLOSE
Master Chief as fast enough reflexes to catch the shield and strong enough to. and he could probably use the shield with more strength not as much technique but Master Chief is easily coming out on top I like cap but it's kind of in the bag for chief
IMO Cortana is probably gonna analyze that cap uses his shield a lot and she is gonna advise chief to take it out of his hands
@@JyFK_Cortana is going to be scanning vitals like "this man has a weak knee, cripple it and the fightis over."
Chief is Iron Man on steroids, the suit doesn't have missiles or beams like Tony's but it's giving him a huge edge.
Tbf it probably wouldn't take long for chief to be as good or even better with the shield than cap
One thing Spartan 2s, especially chief, are known for, is just how fast they are able to adapt to combat situations, which is why they were able to come out on top against far superior enemies, due to being able to adapt and also use their own tech against them
we seem to forget how combat has developed in the past 500 years, and how much it will change in the next 530 years. as howard stark said "im limited by the technology of my time". cap may be a master of todays fighting, but with the extreme time gap between the 2 its safe to say chief would have better hand to hand knowledge even without the suit. at age 14, without mjonlir, chief tanked a round from a magnum straight to the gut. despite being a pistol, the magnum fires a .50 cal semi armour piercing high explosive round. yes it slowed him down heavily but he still completed his mission with his team.
Ok to all of you who are saying “Oh CaPtAiN aMeRiCa BeAtEd tHe HuLk aNd IrOn mAn He BeAtS cHiEf.” First of all you flipping tanks and vehicles in the game is canon, second of all imagine the Hulk, with year of military training, and a brain and you’ll get the Master Chief. Not to mention the Chief does all of his feats in heavy armor which I believe not alone enhanced his strength and speed but it’s also so powerful that if a normal person used it they would die. Oh and it’s like 1,000 pounds or 450kg also when Cap went against the Centari (Spelt that wrong but oh well) he was running out of breath and was hurting, meanwhile Chief is going against hordes of covenant which is basically super soldiers in their own (More so the Brutes, Elites, and Hunters) and beats them like it’s a normal day. And Cap got his Super solider serum from the 1940-1945 (I forgot the exact date) meanwhile Chief is from the far future so it’s just gonna be better overall, not to mention better tech but eh. Also at the age of 14 John killed 2 ODST’s and injured the rest and mind you ODST’s were humanities Finest before the Spartans and 2 died and the rest injured. Oh and Chief falls from orbit about every game and survives without a scratch
Don’t forget that any Spartan, not just chief can flip an entire fucking Elefant which is just crazy ridiculous.
Also if you play around with halo CE you can give chief the ability to fly pelicans and if you have it upside down. He can flip it.
Just to say the pelican is bigger than an AC-130 gunship and is heavier by tens of tons.
_"First of all you flipping tanks and vehicles in the game is canon"_
So then why is John affected by the recoil of UNSC weapons?
@@hellacoorinna9995 It’s Canon, how I know this? I’ve read lots of the books and I know practically all the lore. It’s 100% canon. Hell any Spartan can flip vehicles like tanks.
There’s this vehicle called the elefant and it is absolutely massive plus heavier then the scorpion tank in the game yet any Spartan can flip it in less then a second.
@@The-Master-Chief
I''m not saying you're _wrong._
But Spartans are supposed to be faster, too.
I've read some of the books.
But there's an element of seperation between book and games.
Although I suspect the "Flip scorpion" in the games is because it's coded like the other vehicles. So you can flip it, even though as a tank it's significantly heavier than a warthog or a Banshee.
But that still doesn't discount my question regarding 'if X then whynot Y?"
Hell, I'm not the only one to ask this question.
You only need to search on your search-engine of choice: *why can master chief flip tanks but he's affected by recoil*
@@hellacoorinna9995 yea although it is canon about the scorpion as it’s meant to be flipped, same with the Elefant, it’s an Easter egg as it’s hard to make it fall over but flipping it is as easy as a mongoose. About the recoil I think it’s just a dumb game feature in the newer games from reach to infinite and I don’t think that’s canon unless it’s a high calibre weapon.
If Cap gets his shield in this fight, them Master Chief gets his armor. So without it, I still think Master Chief would still win because he has been training and fighting for longer than Cap, but it would be pretty close. With his armor, would not be close. Chief grew up with the armor so you cannot compare the suit to iron man’s because he built it and is not a trained fighter so its not a good comparison
Actually, he grew up without it he had already seen combat. Without it, he had a decent record without the armor,
I don't know if it'd be close without the shield or armour.
Chief is legitimately a meta human. Withut his armour he can still outrun Steve and Chef's reaction time is far better.
If we ignore strength based feats, which Chief would still rock Steve in, Steve still wouldn't land a punch.
Chief basically has spider sense, he can perceive the world in slow motion. Steve isn't landing a punch on that.
In comics Cap is roughly 87 ish and has spent most of his life fighting. I don't think Cap would win this fight but he does have a lot more fighting and training time than Chief.
Master Chief is like if you stick Captain America in an Ironman suit and trade out the thrusters for energy shields. Oh and multiply his strength and speed a few times
Even tho the armor itself is actually heaptimes better than iron man's armor. The armor is the same titanium alloy used in halos space ships
Don't forget the enhanced reaction speeds the armor provides by tapping directly into the nervous system
At 14 chief could punch with 4 tons of force and kick with twice that. He was effortlessly shattering the bones of the odst that attacked him. This was right after he recovered from his augmentations. He didn't realize how strong he became. At 40+ yrs old he gotta be atleast double that(outside of armor)
Master Chief wipes the floor with captain America even outside the suit. John 117 has titanium bones and superhuman strength and mental capability.
His shield is an alloy and it's been stated in comics and on screen that stronger metals exist. It's also broken numerous times in comics and broken apart on screen it's not indestructible
People don't realize how strategically minded Chief is, I mean, he literally can just out strategize cap and can very easily use his shield against him. This is why we read the books (:
Honestly i feel like Cap would lose to some elites in the halo universe
he would lose to most brutes
100%. most elites are as strong if not stronger physically than spartans in early forms of the MK powered armor and brutes are much stronger (RIP Grace 093).
I feel like a covenant energy blade might be able to cut or stab through caps Vibranium shield I mean, vibraniums Melting point is 5,475 degrees Fahrenheit and since the covenant energy blade is made of plasma, that would make it extremely hot I mean, the plasma torches we use in real life can reach temperatures of 45,000° Fahrenheit So that energy blade should have no problem against cap shield, and would probably take his arm off too if he was still holding it
The energy swords are hot enough that Chief was able to feel the heat through his armor
Just use any AoE weapon and Capt is done. Chief has armour, Steve is out here running around in spandex.
@@SkyNinja759 Captain America is almost always wearing Vibranium infused body armor. It's the scale mail you can see in some of the shots in this vid :)
Not only is chief a better fighter but his arms also weight several hundred pounds
Enlisted man vs officer. Good fight.
we all know enlisted do all the work
@@firelord6659enlisted have never done as much as non comms, or they would be non comms. Chief is a non comm...and he wasn't enlisted, he was forcibly conscripted at age 6.
Ncos are still enlisted@@laurenfazenbaker9777
@@laurenfazenbaker9777non coms are still enlisted
@@laurenfazenbaker9777This couldn’t be more inaccurate. First of all “Chief”and “Master Chief” are shorthands for the ENLISTED rank of Master Chief Petty Officer (E-9) the highest ENLISTED rank in the Navy. Second, non comms are enlisted. Non comm is short for non commissioned officers aka NCOs. Enlisted personnel, dependent on the branch, I will speak for the Marines here. Are NCOs after achieving the rank of Cpl and above. For the Navy I’m fairly sure it’s Petty Officer 3rd class. Could be wrong.
Never bring a shield to a gun fight
Once Chief throws a sticky grenade to cap's shield he has to either ditch it or lose, either way it would be over right there
@@Sikorsky1111what is a grenade going to do against a shield that can take hits from mjolnir?
How about with the hammer of thor
@@Sikorsky1111not if Cap throws the shield at chief. Then chief go 💥
@@140theguy but the MJOLNIR MK VI armor suit, comes with an energy shield. So, I’m not so sure about that…..
Captain America has two advantages. His hand-to-hand fighting and his shield.
Chief: So what you're saying is, I need to take his shield away.
Game, Set, Match.
Comic books vs classic Sci-Fi power scaling is usually pretty hard to gauge, but comics tend to go off the rails with it.
I think you didn't cover how much the reaction time would let master chief just steamroll cap.
I’d like to see cap try to deflect a sticky grenade from halo that shit gonna stick😂
and it's going to stick to the front, and Caps going to close the distance, and us MC's own grenade against him.
@@benandring365 that is if he throws one. What if he throws one on his shield, and one behind him? Then he could follow of with 2 more nades right after that. His shield is a non factor here!
@@JosephYoung1830cap has hit an ICBM with a shield throw from the ground. You think he couldn't handle a couple grenades after being in ww2 and everything else since then?
@@JosephYoung1830why not throw five or ten? C’mon! Cap can take explosions. Anything can happen when playing with your action figures.
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Hello Major Halo Fan Here: So I already said Master Chief would win before the video started. I know enough about Captain America but I know everything about Master Chief. I played all the haloes, Seen all his fights and seen him literally destroy a Capitol Ship by Himself. In the Halo Books, he and His Fireteam took out a Covenant Mega Structure 3X the size of Earth and blew it up along with Many Capital Ship Fleets. This Guy is Unstoppable, He is Classified as HyperLethal in Halo Lore which means he’s the most important and powerful soldier in the entire UNSC. He was seen as Traitor Once, but the UNSC Cannot defeat him so they had to kinda let him do his thing, same with a lot of Other Spartans who are practically Slightly Weaker versions of Master Chief. Captain America is a great fighter and fought Gods and Universal Level Beings, but he never actually defeated them By HIMSELF, just puts up a Good Fight. Also Master Chiefs Armor alone with Out the Overshields and the additional Armor Abilities Is practically impenetrable, Only super Hot Plasma and Plasma Needles could actually Penetrate and Captain America doesn’t have that. The armor Abilities is too long to explain if you never played Halo, but it’s GG for Captain America if Chief haves Overshields which is an additional Shield over his already hard to penetrate Shields over his already Hard to penetrate Armour.😂😂😂 Like I can tell the @DanCo doesn’t play halo because this is a complete wash out. Chief was trained from when he was 6 Years Old to his like 56 Year Old Self, His Augmentation and yes That Armour Along with AI Cortana Which he simps for, and THE ARMOUR ABILITIES!??😅 Captain Getting his ass whooped. DanCo says Captain America is gonna get the edge off of will Power, No my friend Master Chief is called the Devil because he literally takes your Will Power and pummels you with it. That shield isn’t gonna do a damn thing If Master Chief haves an Energy Sword or Brute Hammer. Master Chief has the Ultimate Offensive and Defensive Weapon, which is why the UNSC lets him make the decision because he’s practically God in the Halo Universe. Literally the Forerunners are ancient aliens who basically Created the Humans and the Other Aliens, The Librarian in Halo 4 who is A Promethean said that “Master Chief is the works of a Thousand LifeTimes of Planning” He’s literally JESUS In the Halo Universe🤣🤣🤣 He was part of the Prophecy of the Forerunners The Forerunners are the Creators of the Existence which is The Halo Universe. So yeah Halo Jesus vs Captain America?? Easy Blow Out.
cap having his shield in the fight is just another weapon cheif can take to use against him too lol like imagine if cheif throw that shield at cap? fuckin flying pizza cutter piss missile XD
Steve: getting up"i can do this all day"
John: "okay.."
There is literally nothing that Captain America can do so much as stop master chief, much less beat him in a fight.
Master Chief destroys all the super soldier serum people from marvel and dc at the same time.
Sentry excluded. But other soldier from games aka Doomslayer solos the whole of marvel dc and db at the same time anyways.
😊 Interesting think he could take on death Stroke
Doomslayer is taking everyone on from every universe from every DC and Marvel universe , and chief as well
Cap has depth in the MCU, Chief also has Depth but people disregard that depth in favor for flat empty personality just to fit their OWN personality in his shoes. He has depth, I love when he has it in Halo 4, and Infinite. Shows the side of humanity he never shows anyone, no one except Cortana. I loved that so much especially when he fought a practical god amongst men, The Didact.
These are two of my favorite characters and as much as it pains me to say it master chief wins his transformation is much more drastic and beyond peak human physicality by comparison to captain America. Chief in his Mjolnir Powered Assault Armor can run faster than Cap. However they aren’t so different to be incomparable Chief just has more done to him.
Master Chief vs Captain America is a fight that isn't even fair. A better one would be Master Chief vs Iron man.
@@spawn2414 no, master chief Vs spider man in iron man tech suit
Master chief can knock out aliens , was harder for cap to beat the giant alien that was thanks servant
@@Onwuka_0 Cortana would just hack the iron spider suit
Yes. Chief and the Spartans are literally like gods cap and other super soldiers haven’t reached that type of status. What I love about halo it has lore deep enough to go against other universes
I agree with your assessment and it is a breath of fresh air to see someone assess Cap by his comic book feats. Many people use Marvel’s reference material and categorize him as peak human. However, even the 616 version of Steve, by his accomplishments in the comic books, is solidly at superhuman levels. The man regularly demonstrates lift feats of around 2 tons. He dodges bullets because he can see their trajectory in real time and react in that time phase. His brain is a super computer that can process through mounds of data in a tactical environment so he can formulate well thought out plans in the middle of a fight. His shield throws are fully calculated, every bounce off every target (even moving ones) to where he will be when his plan dictates he will need it. And you covered it all. So thank you for doing Cap justice.
Not indestructible. Thanos broke the shield.
Only in the Disney-written movies. Read the comic books.
Personal opinion:
Chief win outside of Mjolnir because he has taken down people inside power with punches and kicks hard enough to crack and disable the armor which was an early generation of Mjolnir
Chief win easily in every Mjolnir Power Assault Armor except maybe gen II because it is capped at the base strength of a Spartan-II
Chief with Mjolnir and AI whether it’s Cortana or the new Chief slaught Cap
Not to mention Cortana is inside his brain in the TV show so even without the armor he is still smarter and can counter a lot of caps attacks , and chief can analyze his surroundings quite well to his advantage
@@JyFK_ I didn’t know that was have they did in the show but it makes me dislike even more
@@Archangel1862 man they screwed it up so bad , I didnt like it , I did like 343 guilty sparks voice actor tho
The Gen 2 suit was not capped to the strength of the Spartans, it increased their strength by five
@@osets2117 it has a set strengthen multiplier so that Spartans 4s would be on par with 2s
Masterchef (Halo)
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Spartan time is one of the most busted abilities the Spartan 2's got
That was a GREAT breakdown man, genuinely enjoyed it and I tend to agree, well done 👏
I agree with the outcome Master Chief is Cap, but better, but what version of Master Chief did you use in the video? Because if it's before Halo 4, then that's not him at his strongest. Remember, in Halo 4, he was made to be back to the level humans were before they were de-evolved by the Forrunners. So if you use Master Chief after Halo 4, I'd say even without his armor, he's beating Cap if they fight and unlike Cap Master Chief always has luck on his side it's actually a part of his character. I know people don't like using luck in fights, and yes, I don't myself in most cases, but it is a part of Chief's character and why Cortana chose him to be her partner.
As a Halo nerd, I don't see Halo 4 as fully canon. It rewrote a lot of the lore when it came out.
Even then, Chief pre-"awakening" still solo's Steve easily.
One is a super serum that enhances the patient to peak humanity. The other is physical treatments over a long period of time to enhance someone past what a human should be capable of doing.
Then add in that Chief has sci-fi training regiments and a born/raised soldier. While Steve had WW2 era training, then recent/brief S.H.I.E.L.D. after he was thawed out.
Chief basically has intense combat experience from 6 years old to his current self (49yrs), where he's been put in cryogenic stasis beween fights to preserve himself. Making more of his waking moments some sort of combat test or military formality.
Steve is like a reservist to Master Chief's full time combat vet. They both serve but Chief's a bonified badass.
@SkyNinja759 I feel a bit of the same way as you when it comes to stuff to do with 343 but was just saying that depending on if the guy used pre Halo 4 or Halo 4 and after Chief with or with out the armor he'd win against Cap easily. And even though I think he could without the armor before Halo 4, I just mentioned it because of the fact he was given a power up by being returned to humans' full evolved capabilities and because weather we like it or not most making videos like this will use the stuff added by 343.
Human Torch (Rise of the Silver Surfer) vs Iceman (X-Men: Day of Future Past)
Not even close. Iceman would win for sure
The incredibles family vs the fantastic four Is not even close
@owenscott6159 Jack -Jack and Franklin fight in next round
@@jprice6419cap all day bro lol
I'm a fan of both but it's another wierd Sunday for Marvel's First Family.
@@jprice6419@jprice6419 Franklin, as a kid, was creating pocket dimensions, and now he's a multiversal threat. There's no fight here.
I know about Mr. Franklin's powers :"Come to me my Galactus!" I do not know how crazy strong Mr. Jack will be at 30.
TBF John-117 is also a genius according to Halsey with a photographic memory. And he has just as much determination. He was trained since he was 6 with all forms of combat and a good portion was hand to hand. And the biggest factor I would say that would give chief the edge even out of armor is his Luck and his different mindset. Cap is a hero. Chief is an indomitable force that won’t pull his punches. He was trained to be a machine and later trained to be human by a machine(Cortana)
“Before this is all over, promise me you'll figure out which one of us is the machine.” Cortana to John before …
I just think Cheif would grab the shield the second time or third time its tossed at him and probably beat Cap with it
MC is litterally Cap, but with Mjolnir armor, futuristic gear and weapons, and is colder.
There's no way cap wins this, he's much like Sgt. Johnson. A superhuman, but not a goddamn Spartan!
Actually, Johnson vs. Cap would be an interesting fight.
Technicaly ubderselling mc here , mc is the super soldeir of a futuristic society that can fuether enhance him and is deemed supee by standards of a dpace faring society
Capt is a super soldeir by ww2 standards
Project Orion (Spartan 1, I would pluralize but it's just Johnson that survived) is basically the Marvel super soldier project of Halo.
So I agree, have Steve verse Johnson. That would be a more even fight.
Chief: I need a weapon
Cap:I seem to have lost mine(he used to stay strapped).😂
Didn't Thanos knock chunks outta the sheld before?
Because glove
Because of Guantlet
@tonyslicer7399 he didn't have the glove when he did it
@@tonyslicer7399 He used his sword, not the Gaunlet.
Thanos has godlike physical strength so it makes sense he can break the shield.
Master cheif is in his 60s and has been fighting for 50 of those years, he has super speed, strengh and durability, cap also has these but not to the same extent, and 117 has been trained in hand to hand combat scince he was six, not to mention Johns luck and the energy sheilds. Brutes and promethians have a tough time cracking his sheilds. Master cheif win with hardly any difficulty
I think that a better match up would be chief vs doom guy
Even if master chief was not wearing his armor, given his lifelong training, that experience, and reaction time, I think he still takes the win.
Plus, the armour only amplifies Chief’s already augmented body by 5x
Wolverine vs Lizard
Master chief is basically an all around better, more advanced version of cap from 500 years in the future. Chief wins. Chief began training at the age of 6.. Not including the time he was frozen chief has more fighting experience. Willpower is a toss up
Well when discussing feats. And looking at the enemies, cap has been a soldier for many years but chief has been a soldier basically all his life. Not to mention all he has to do is say boo, and his enemies are already terrified
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Red hood vs winter soilder ?
Or
Master cheif vs Batman
Chief is the better fighter. He has been training in intense combat and warfare since a child. He was a super soldier before cap was even an enlisted soldier
Steve rogers is a spartan 4 without the armor, Master chief is a spartan 2. Master chief would beat up Steve Rogers even before his body enhancements.
Master Chief vs Deathstroke
Same result unless deathstroke uses ikon armor
I think deathstroke would have much faster reflexes though. I even think Cap has much faster reflexes than Chief, but these are all still great matches nonetheless.
@@Kyle72396 mastercheif swiped a missle out of the air with his arm and lived. His reflexes and reaction time is greater than both captain America and deathstroke and that's saying something
I think Chief’s best advantages against Cap is his strength & durability, but although very fast, I don’t think he has any speed feats or overall combat skill capabilities that are on the same level as Cap or Deathstroke imo.
@@Kyle72396u haven’t discovered what “spartan time” is in halo lore. These guys are way faster than the average enhanced supersoldiers in comics. The only superhero that isnt a speedster that is faster than the average spartan is Spider-Man. Death stroke is not keeping up with this guy
"Press X to flip Elephant" tells you all you need to know.
Master chief can literally process caps movents as they are coming and would disarm cap of his shield and then its a one way fight
Title caption "not even close."
End result "it's a close fight."
Cmon man
😄 I was going to say the same thing.
Click bait alarm
Lets not forget master chief was able to hold up a warthog sized boulder under a mountain while injured from his leg, and lifted a scarab that weighs 12k pounds that was on his leg.
Master Chief can even speed blitz Captain America using spartan time which makes master chief see everything in slow motion including bullets and maybe lasers. Yeah Captain America is never winning against master chief.
He needed Kelly to help lift it off the ground.
Cap regularly is a bullet timer.
Okay boys boys boys boys
aren't we forgetting something really important what about Master Chief's AI
Doesn't matter... neither are besting the Adeptus Astartes 💯
Mjolnir body armor? No, it's Mjolnir Power Armor B-)
0:12 Does Master chief win?
Yeah
Yes
Master Chief without his armor would be a better 1v1 for Cap.
Either circumstance is a severe ass whooping for Cap, Bro - he just gets the benefit of eye contact in one and not the other. Lmao
Master chief vs mcu iron man who wins?
Chief, is captain America, in a suit, but 4x stronger out of it. Master Chief dog walks Cap without the suit, with his MJOLNIR armor cap is done.
The shield was literally broken when he was facing THANOS.....
Why Raven vs Starfire (both comics) isn’t even close
Wolverine (MCU) vs Venom (Sony)
Well, Venom is basically made of slime, so I don’t see what Wolverine could do against him.
Captain America VS Predator
You haven't done this one yet.
Yautja?
I understand why you think Cap would win in hand to hand combat against Chief but I don’t even think that’s close. Chief had literally been training to fight since he was a child, constantly sparring with the children who are on par with him all the way up until blue team was separated. I think chief take it on hand to hand combat and it’s not even close
Halo ce pistol is putting a hole right through caps shield 😂😂
Martian Manhunter vs Gladiator