Why is Xadaa so Agitated?
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- All of a sudden, 2-yr-old Xadaa starts bucking and running around - what's the matter? What does she need? A GREAT book on the racehorse industry and what they do to these little ones, from a former owner/participant is: "Saving Baby" by Jo Anne Normile and Lawrence Lindner
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Dear Xadaa 😊. One of my semi-feral mares was still nursing at age 3 when we got her and her mother on our property. We let the two of them decide how they wanted to live. The 3 year old met new friends of her age in the pastures, while her mother also met new mamas. Eventually she stopped nursing, but I can’t remember when. I think it happened gradually when she began to discover all the interesting things a barn and a property can provide. She socialized more and more with her friends and ventured away from mama for longer periods of time, while her mama enjoyed some well needed rest in the sun with her new group of mamas friends. The mother and the filly would meet casualy during the day. One day someone said « did you see Liane nurse today? - No, not me » and the following day, and the day after and that was it. The mother and the daughter always kept their strong bond. The filly grew up into a very balanced adult.
Beautiful. I think SO many issues could be avoided altogether simply by leaving foals with their mother for at least 2 years minimum. 4 years minimum would be ideal (this is what Icelandic breeders do). And of course, what would be REALLY ideal would be to stop separating families altogether ;)
I’m glad you demonstrated this for people. Humans always put their own often money focussed agenda ahead of the well-being of horses.
I have to say xaada is so gorgeous! How many hands would you say she is now? And cobra! What a different being than when he first arrived. Big soft relaxed eyes.gorgeous ❤️
This was a few days after a VERY intense tapping session I did with him for his anger/abuse. When you see that video, you will be even more amazed at the softness here ;) And I should measure her, but there's a pic of her in my latest blog post and she even with Aude, so at least 16 hh
@@ListenToYourHorse oh I so look forward to seeing that! I'll be meeting a horse with a difficult/traumatic past soon so that might really help me help them xo
Interesting. My now 10 year old mare never got sperated from her mom and even though the herd includes 4 other horses. My mare chooses to stand right next to her mom for most of the time.
She has no problem to be separated from her mom when I go to get her, but they share such a strong bond! 🌻
How beautiful and how wonderful that you kept them together xo
It’s so amazing that attachment in horses is quite strong. Just like our own babies, it’s like her nursing was connection seeking and return to her secure base and safe haven. ❤️
I am inspired and moved by each of your videos. Blessings to you and your equine family.
Thank you!
Such a simple, enlightening video. Don't stop!
So glad you're enjoying them!
Kaliah is so calm and undeterred by Xadaa's behaviour - though I noticed Cobra had to have a say about space issues :D
Right?? Cobra LOL
Very interesting. The horses are so calm around you now.
Yes it's remarkable how easily 8 horses can be managed with no halters, ropes etc. when they're all treated like reasonable, intelligent beings! And of course, this is all choice - sometimes they say No, and sometimes things get a bit crazy, but overall, it's pretty much like this :)
Ooow wow! So much to learn still! Thank you for sharing this! You're awesome! 👏💖🙏🏻🌞🧚🏼♀️🍀
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you....Enjoyed .
Separation anxiety. Okay mama...calm the girl❤💯
Except that Xadaa had already been in the arena for over an hour with Cobra (without her mum). I think it just suddenly hit her that she REALLY needed to nurse now! Plus she couldn't see Kaliah when she was down the barn road, because the blackberries are so high, so then she couldn't figure out where she'd gone.
They're so fine for Mustangs I'm not used to seeing that shape of horse does anyone else think that she moves a little like a Tennessee walker?
The range they were on intersects with First Nations land - who turn their own horses out to roam. So who knows what bloodlines got mixed in?
@@ListenToYourHorse that makes sense I really wonder I mean their faces don't look similar but the way they move reminds me of it they're so beautiful
Still nursing at 2 years old? Wow
Juno nursed until age 4, when he then weaned himself.
@@ListenToYourHorse Wow, that's pretty cool!! Also, I wanted to say that your horses beautiful 😍
@@ListenToYourHorse that's interesting. I've never known horses to do that, as well I've never been able to let them in an environment for that to happen. Is this something you always have done? Any good references materials about this? I'm a life long equestrian and horse lover and this intrigues me.
Thank you as always.. I understand comments get you brownie points or dollars so even though I have no magic words but always want to leave a comment. Lame or not 🙏🏼
UA-cam has a weird algorithm... I think the number of comments help UA-cam decide whether to "suggest" your video to others, but I'm not sure how the revenue works. I've heard from others that you only get the ad revenue if people watch the entire ad (without skipping it) but I'm not sure if that's true. All I know is that it all worked better before Google bought UA-cam! LOL. Anyway, no worries, just do what feels good to you xo
They still nurse at that age? So weird
Not usually NO 5 to 7 months is the longest a foal should nurse for. A 2 year old is like seeing a 5 yr old child still nursing on its mom, so creepy weird and unhealthy! But in the horse world its always "to each their own" no matter how damaging and hurtful it is to the horse, cos people are the WORST animal!
Nothing creepier than a person that doesn’t realize how important mother’s milk is to their young! Btw they don’t have to hang off the breast!’
Blessed are the wet nurses that donate their milk to babies that have a hard time thriving
how do you protect the honeys from coyotes and bears?
There are not a lot of bears located in this area. As for the coyotes, they know not to approach such big and powerful animals. My dogs will also secure and protect the area when I bring them with me.
Perhaps she is growing?
It shows just how little we really know about horse behaviour. I read articles from the cloud foundation and they have a lot of interesting things to say but they don't get to see things as often or as closely as you. We see what happens to young stallions and assume that's the norm cause I've never heard of a horse nursing for so long and the mum let's her so that makes me wonder if in the wild if she would have another foal by now or? I think the cloud foundation documented a stallion who was still in his father's herd, claimed one of the mares and was still drinking from his mother so the dad couldn't get rid of him without losing two mares
Yes there have been reports of wild mothers nursing the current and previous year's foal. I think it must depend on the health of the mother and food supply. That's why I'm curious to see what these wildies do, with plenty of nutrition and not pregnant - what do they CHOOSE to do?
I'm really confused. A 2 year old nursing off mom? I've worked on breeding farms, and usually by 4-6 months the moms had enough, and there weaned.....can you shed a little more insight on this for me? Articles,books to reference. I've never seen or heard of this b4, I'm curious. Thank you.
@@ingridfitz6671 yes and no. Most youngsters are weaned by 6 months on any given farm, breeding or not. The moms sometimes actually start getting annoyed with there youngsters, we usually waited till we seen signs that moms had enough, baby is ready to be on it's own. Though if in a natural state, such as mustangs, which roam wild untouched in there herds, I thought I seen documentary that that's what the Mares do in the wild, start pushing there foal away around 6 months? I'm not certain though that's why am I'm asking. Horses in there natural state will def do things there own way vs how man does things. I'm open to new info😊
You can watch the Cloud documentary, also read the work by equine ethologist Lucy Rees and/or watch her videos with the wild herd in Spain (here on UA-cam - fabulous!). I think the mare's behaviour is going to be environment-specific. In the case of wild herds, there's numerous reports of mares nursing last year's and this year's foal. But I would think that would depend on the health of the mother and the food supply. But if you watch the Cloud series in particular, many of the mares look absolutely broken down from having a foal every year. Reminded me of my grandma with 8 children - brutal on the body, especially when you don't have adequate nutrition. That's why I was so curious to see what these wild mamas did with plenty of food and no pressure/opportunity to breed. And let me tell you, they show NO desire to stimulate the males when they come into heat! I don't have much experience with stabled horses, breeding farms and where horses are essentially profitable slaves, but I suspect the environment is fairly stressful. And once a horse has had a few foals removed, never to be seen again, and is repeatedly raped for AI or chained live breeding... what emotional/psychological/spiritual state is the mare in? So when a being has suffered repeated abuse, loss of family, and an unnatural environment, perhaps many of them "check out" mentally/emotionally. I know of one mare at a hunter/jumper stable where my friend's daughter was training. I saw her a week after she'd birthed (her 4th foal in a row) in a big stall in the middle of this busy stable with music playing, people all over the place - like being in the middle of train station! I commented that she looked absolutely exhausted and the owner said, "Oh yes, she won't lie down, she just stands guard over her foal, she's such a good mama." I was horrified. This mare's foals sold for over $150K each so no way were they ever going to give her a rest. I literally couldn't see a way out of the prison-camp life this mare was living. She died in childbirth, with the foal, a year later. But that's us humans! As soon as we monetize animals (or humans) we are unable to see them clearly, humanely, or with compassion/connection.
ListenToYourHorse as an animal communicator, I was called on a cattle farm once because the cows werz killing their babies and/or they were found missing a few days after birth. This behaviour was costing lots of money to the owners so they turned to animal communication as their last hope to « reason » the cows so they would stop that behavior. The herd of cows explained exactly what you said about breed farms!
A) they were raped every year
B) they had the awareness of being slaved
C) they knew their babies were stolen from them to be killed so humans could feast over their flesh
In that situation, what do you think any mother would do? Exactly.
They were HIDING their babies in the bushes whenever possible (for those who had the luxury to be in a pasture) and the rest of them would lie down over their baby while they were asleep to softly and lovingly suffocate them so they would never have to experience the slaughter house.
I must add that cows and babies keep communicating at all time no matter the distance that separates them, and that the mothers actually percieve everything that their baby is experiencing in the slaughterhouse. So imagine the terror of the mothers!
Have anyone been in a slaughetrhouse? Animals are crying. With real tears. It is a devastating experience to witness.
I have had the EXACT same feedbacks from mares and foals who were bred for sport purposes. I have dozens of examples. Last one came last week! Mare of 18 repeatedly raped a foal stolen everytime to make money.
Exact same feedbacks from breeder’s dogs.
I also have had a dog who had become sexually impotent at age 3 because he was emotionnaly and physically traumatised of what people would make him do. The owners were even about to take him to the vet everyday to manually stimulate him so they could collect his seeds. And they were mocking him for being « the sluggy one ».
The dog was ashamed and traumatised. He was dissiociates most of the time and wanted to hide from everyone because they were blaming him for not bringing money in! The dog tried several times to kill himself.
@@ListenToYourHorse I cried reading your post. Because your right. That is exactly what happens in a breeding stables. And your right it takes a huge toll on the mares. And all for profit. Even more sad is the fact that I was taught this was all normal, and the way things are. For many stables today,it still is. You know, I actually quit riding for a while because I was eventing a quarter horse tb cross, and she colicked severely on me due to stress. I realized then the pressure that is put on these horses to perform, and I was guilty and accountable. From that day forward I stopped competing, and looked at things in a whole new light. I still feel guilty to this day, even though the mare recovered and was fine. Us humans😞so happy I came across your channel, its beautiful to see more and more people looking at horses to be in a more natural state. I will look into the Cloud documentary and that ladys channel. Thank you for the info. Did you ever read the book The Tao of Equus by Linda Kohonav? If not, it's a Fantastic book! Highly recommend😊
@@vivresalumiere that's horrifying.i cried reading this one too.But its real,sadly. Makes me look at things so much differently. That's amazing the work you do. If I may ask how did you get into animal communication? I've had some rather interesting experiences with horses in the past, one told me he was 18, I asked the owner and she was like how did you know. Then I had another horse tell me I was a fool lol. I heard these messages though, clearly in my Spirit. I've considered getting into animal communication, honing my skills somehow. Any information or suggestions would be greatly appreciated 💖