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Right in the beginning of the video, I had many doubts. But only a genius teacher knows how to drive the lecture so that by the end, all doubts are cleared; and I found one!
This was a great article. Going over to the Wikipedia site and over the mathematics behind the Bloom filters is very enlightening, and I would recommend that to everyone, because you get an idea of how many items you need in order to fill this Bloom filter and make false positives very probable
Another problem is that we have a state here. When we delete an user, we need to make sure to update bloom filter accordingly and it can get quite messy quickly, because each bucket represents a cluster of users not only one so then you also need to synchronized that, somehow.
If each bucket stores count then this can be solved, but updates has to be synchronized. So I think if you create list of AtomicInteger then this would solve this problem in java
Hey. I was looking up what Bloom filters is. I was at a cafe without any earphones, so i was watching it with just subtitle, and your face popped up near the end hahaha. Great video man. Keep up the good work!
I find following information related to Bloom and Cuckoo filters from my notes today, ( not sure, where I copied this text to credit that person :) ) - Bloom and Cuckoo filters utilizes multiple hash functions 00:08:06 - Bloom and Cuckoo filters can efficiently save the cache from a significant amount of this storage waste. 00:01:58 Thanks @Hussien for Great Content as usual !!
It's a great and a simple explanation. But a general bloom filter works over k hash functions, not 1 like shown here, as it decreases the false positive rate on existence test
I have the feeling it’s pretty easy to make all bits set pretty soon even large number of bits used which would make the bloom filter useless. The video helps me get the big picture, but I still don’t get it why bloom filter is useful
@@hnasr I thought they used tree data structures of some sort (like characters) to search unique usernames and have logarithmic complexity. But this seems so much clean and great
Remember the 64 bits will not be necessarily filled after 64 user names. User 1 could hash to bit 17 User 2 could hash to bit 60 User 3 could hash to bit 17 again User 4 could also hash to bit 17 and so on .. The 64 bits can be stored in redis or in memory of the server. Another example , we have a possible 365 birthdays only right? If you brought random 365 people will all of them have unique birthdays? No of course most of them will be born on the same day.
Saurabh, your first question is understandable, but listen again at 7:03. The key is: the bloom filter will only track if a given string, once hashed and mod'ed, does or does not resolve to one of those 64 slots. If it does not, then it gives that as quick confirmation.
Thanks, Hussein. But what happens if the entire bloom filter is filled with 1s? We'll be back to querying the dB for each request 🤔 Oh...nvm. Got my answer at the end. I posted this question halfway through the video 😅
good explanation. I have a good question. Given in todays world, we have multiple servers behind a load balancer writing into db, how will a write of name="Bob" appear itself in other peer servers. They should through some event notification mechanism, other wise, when the second server (who did not serve the write request of "Bob") gets a query for Bob, its boom filter will say "Bob does not exist. In other words how can we have a bloom filter that is global to all the underlying servers behind a LB?
Do bloom filters effectively delay when you will have to do a hard check every time then? Just thinking about when most or all of the bits are set, then its not doing anything basically for the operation anymore.
Google has so many users and millions of new users are added almost everyday, how many bits do you think they use for this hashing algorithm? I mean no matter how many bits you use, wouldn't it always end up hitting the database?
You have multiple solutions .. when you have more than one service you can store the bloom filter in the : 1) reverse proxy it self 2) Or in each server 3) or in a centralized cache (redis or memcachd) All these have pros and cons best one is 1) in my opinion as you suggested
Whatuuup playa any chance you're interested in making other videos on probabilistic data structures? I'm studying for system design interview stuff and the Count Min Sketch datastructure came up -- halp
Hussein Nasser i dont know if theyre as widely used as bloom filters, hmm - CMS is for counting the number of occurrences of different elements in a stream of data, which seems applicable - and the HLL is for assessing the cardinality/size of a set of unique elements
Hussein Nasser by the way, would love to exchange lists! I also keep a queue of stuff that I need to either brush up on or learn outright. Ill post later from my desktop, maybe itll be useful to ya
* CQRS + Event Sourcing * 2PC, 3PC, Saga * CRDT and other Consistency Patterns * MVCC (Multiversion Concurrency Control) * Different degrees of Isolation… (www.geeksforgeeks.org/transaction-isolation-levels-dbms/) and Consistency * BTree+ and LSM (for log Compaction) * How database replication actually works (From master to slaves) + WAL * Different types of Caching (write-through, write back, etc) (+ “Thrashing”) * Lambda Architecture * VIP + Keep-Alive + VRRP * How do databases manage concurrent connections? Pooling... * Dynamo * Columnar datastores vs Row-Oriented Datastores * How do stream processing “maintain” local aggregation state in the event of a crash? How Kafka uses RocksDB * Bulkhead Pattern (isolating elements of application into pools, so that if one fails, others can still function) * Client-side service registration vs Server-side registration * Semaphore, counting semaphore? * Probabilistic Data Structures: Countmin Sketch, Bloom Filters, HyperLogLog * Linearlizability, Serializability… isolation (dddpaul.github.io/blog/2016/03/17/linearizability-and-serializability/) * How distributed file storage systems work * How object storage like S3 works * Time Series Databases (See InfluxDB)
Thank you this is the first time to hear about this. But I'm wondering if we speak of systems with thousands of usernames, wouldn't this become useless so fast as this 64 bits array will be filled so quickly even if we double that array size we still eventually going to fill it and now it's more of overhead than it helps?
Marsilinou Zaky correct the 64bit was just an example, with large systems you will probably need something bigger than 64bit. And this is where the challenge lie. How do you know how big should you make the bloom filter? Too big than its just cache, too small than as you said its useless.. you need trial and error Good points!
Bloom filter as you mentioned, when hash values for both Jack and Paul are 63. The first is being stored in database and when a collision happen, you retrive it from DB. So to detect duplicate text from a dataset, I feel we can use bloom filters itself.
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Right in the beginning of the video, I had many doubts. But only a genius teacher knows how to drive the lecture so that by the end, all doubts are cleared; and I found one!
This was a great article. Going over to the Wikipedia site and over the mathematics behind the Bloom filters is very enlightening, and I would recommend that to everyone, because you get an idea of how many items you need in order to fill this Bloom filter and make false positives very probable
Kostas Oreopoulos thanks Kostas! I agree the math is brilliant
This video, I watched right before a midterm in my systems security course and it helped me so much with the entire midterm! Thank you!
All the best 😊 glad it helped
Another problem is that we have a state here. When we delete an user, we need to make sure to update bloom filter accordingly and it can get quite messy quickly, because each bucket represents a cluster of users not only one so then you also need to synchronized that, somehow.
If each bucket stores count then this can be solved, but updates has to be synchronized. So I think if you create list of AtomicInteger then this would solve this problem in java
Woah!! 🤯....I can use this simple logic in so many places.
thanks this was a whole lot more helpful than whatever my professor was talking about
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Finally someone who could help me in this issue. A video in Comp. Science area which finally can understand fluently :). Thumbs up @Hussein Nasser
I just found Gold Mine. Immediately subscribed. Thanks Man!
Hey. I was looking up what Bloom filters is. I was at a cafe without any earphones, so i was watching it with just subtitle, and your face popped up near the end hahaha.
Great video man. Keep up the good work!
I'm late to the party, but thank you! This is one of the first of your videos I've watched and it really got me interested in Bloom Filters.
Thanks, finally i got the concept cleared.
I find following information related to Bloom and Cuckoo filters from my notes today, ( not sure, where I copied this text to credit that person :) )
- Bloom and Cuckoo filters utilizes multiple hash functions 00:08:06
- Bloom and Cuckoo filters can efficiently save the cache from a significant amount of this storage waste. 00:01:58
Thanks @Hussien for Great Content as usual !!
It's a great and a simple explanation. But a general bloom filter works over k hash functions, not 1 like shown here, as it decreases the false positive rate on existence test
I have the feeling it’s pretty easy to make all bits set pretty soon even large number of bits used which would make the bloom filter useless. The video helps me get the big picture, but I still don’t get it why bloom filter is useful
Wow! Beautiful algorithm, never heard bloom filters but looks great. Great explanation Hussein.
Me 2 I heard about it around a year ago when I was researching Apache Cassandra.
@@hnasr I thought they used tree data structures of some sort (like characters) to search unique usernames and have logarithmic complexity. But this seems so much clean and great
What a brilliant example! Thank you so much!
Thanks for the visual example! This helped a ton.
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Thanks for sharing the videos. The topics are really interesting. Keep up the good work.
Thanks praveen! 😊
can you make video about mutex and semaphore, thank you
So hashmap in java is/uses bloom filters?
Nice thought path! Very helpful
Fantastically explained .. Well done :D
Perfect explanation! Thankss
Sir why dont you use Local Cache memory?
Thanks for sharing that topic, Hussein.
Charlie Arehart sure thing thanks for your comment Charlie!
I don't get how this could be useful after 64 usernames. Also, where is the bloom data stored? Redis?
Remember the 64 bits will not be necessarily filled after 64 user names.
User 1 could hash to bit 17
User 2 could hash to bit 60
User 3 could hash to bit 17 again
User 4 could also hash to bit 17 and so on ..
The 64 bits can be stored in redis or in memory of the server.
Another example , we have a possible 365 birthdays only right? If you brought random 365 people will all of them have unique birthdays? No of course most of them will be born on the same day.
Saurabh, your first question is understandable, but listen again at 7:03. The key is: the bloom filter will only track if a given string, once hashed and mod'ed, does or does not resolve to one of those 64 slots. If it does not, then it gives that as quick confirmation.
when you restart the server, do you need to calculate the bitset for all users ?
Thanks, Hussein. But what happens if the entire bloom filter is filled with 1s? We'll be back to querying the dB for each request 🤔
Oh...nvm. Got my answer at the end. I posted this question halfway through the video 😅
Exactly that is the drawback of the filter it helps until it doesn’t, but doesn’t necessarily harm because its very cheap
Really so helpful!
This was brilliant
Are some bits more probable than others?
Web Techs interesting question, I would like to say no. But it really depends on the input and the hashing algorithm used.
good explanation. I have a good question. Given in todays world, we have multiple servers behind a load balancer writing into db,
how will a write of name="Bob" appear itself in other peer servers. They should through some event notification mechanism, other wise, when the second server (who did not serve the write request of "Bob") gets a query for Bob, its boom filter will say "Bob does not exist.
In other words how can we have a bloom filter that is global to all the underlying servers behind a LB?
Multiple options, one of them is distributed cache.
@@saralk18 whole point of bloom filters is to avoid network calls... querying any dB or redis was always there.. then why use bloom filters then
Great explantation
I definitely have missed that class! Looked it up and BAMMM WHAT was invented in 1970!?
Archibald Tuttle lol Didn’t know it was invented in 1970 🤣
Do bloom filters effectively delay when you will have to do a hard check every time then? Just thinking about when most or all of the bits are set, then its not doing anything basically for the operation anymore.
Wondering, how the bloom filter is recreated on the event of application restart with already existing set of db entries?
What happens if machine crashes and we loose the bloom filter in RAM? Do we create it again by reading data from DB? that will be too expensive right?
Good explained :) Thank you a lot!
Google has so many users and millions of new users are added almost everyday, how many bits do you think they use for this hashing algorithm? I mean no matter how many bits you use, wouldn't it always end up hitting the database?
Finally! thanks Hussein
So they don't handle collision in bloom filter ?
Great explanation bro. I am wondering why u haven't made any video about celery.
SHANKAR TREEKS not sure what celery is ☺️ need to research! Thanks for the suggestion
What you suggest to do when we more than one service ?
(I think that the best way is to use cache in reverse proxy).
By the way , love your videos !!
You have multiple solutions ..
when you have more than one service you can store the bloom filter in the :
1) reverse proxy it self
2) Or in each server
3) or in a centralized cache (redis or memcachd)
All these have pros and cons best one is 1) in my opinion as you suggested
Super clear, thanks
Mihai Fumarel glad it is 🙏
" paul doesn't exist"
Me: guess I'll die
Thank u for this video !
Thanks for watching 😊
Yes Hussein, I do exist
what hash does that
2:49 Why exactly 64 bit? Why not 32 or 128?
No reason you can pick any length
Thanks a million
Very nice
how do i implement this in nodejs with redis?
Whatuuup playa any chance you're interested in making other videos on probabilistic data structures? I'm studying for system design interview stuff and the Count Min Sketch datastructure came up -- halp
Or even weird stuff like hyperloglog : P
Yikes never heard of them 😅 are they even used in real life projects? Ill add them to the list
Hussein Nasser i dont know if theyre as widely used as bloom filters, hmm - CMS is for counting the number of occurrences of different elements in a stream of data, which seems applicable - and the HLL is for assessing the cardinality/size of a set of unique elements
Hussein Nasser by the way, would love to exchange lists! I also keep a queue of stuff that I need to either brush up on or learn outright. Ill post later from my desktop, maybe itll be useful to ya
* CQRS + Event Sourcing
* 2PC, 3PC, Saga
* CRDT and other Consistency Patterns
* MVCC (Multiversion Concurrency Control)
* Different degrees of Isolation… (www.geeksforgeeks.org/transaction-isolation-levels-dbms/) and Consistency
* BTree+ and LSM (for log Compaction)
* How database replication actually works (From master to slaves) + WAL
* Different types of Caching (write-through, write back, etc) (+ “Thrashing”)
* Lambda Architecture
* VIP + Keep-Alive + VRRP
* How do databases manage concurrent connections? Pooling...
* Dynamo
* Columnar datastores vs Row-Oriented Datastores
* How do stream processing “maintain” local aggregation state in the event of a crash? How Kafka uses RocksDB
* Bulkhead Pattern (isolating elements of application into pools, so that if one fails, others can still function)
* Client-side service registration vs Server-side registration
* Semaphore, counting semaphore?
* Probabilistic Data Structures: Countmin Sketch, Bloom Filters, HyperLogLog
* Linearlizability, Serializability… isolation (dddpaul.github.io/blog/2016/03/17/linearizability-and-serializability/)
* How distributed file storage systems work
* How object storage like S3 works
* Time Series Databases (See InfluxDB)
Thank you this is the first time to hear about this. But I'm wondering if we speak of systems with thousands of usernames, wouldn't this become useless so fast as this 64 bits array will be filled so quickly even if we double that array size we still eventually going to fill it and now it's more of overhead than it helps?
Marsilinou Zaky correct the 64bit was just an example, with large systems you will probably need something bigger than 64bit. And this is where the challenge lie. How do you know how big should you make the bloom filter? Too big than its just cache, too small than as you said its useless.. you need trial and error
Good points!
If anyone has worked with mongoose implemeting bloom filters for full text search it will be nice! Thank you in advance
good stuff!
Bloom filter as you mentioned, when hash values for both Jack and Paul are 63. The first is being stored in database and when a collision happen, you retrive it from DB.
So to detect duplicate text from a dataset, I feel we can use bloom filters itself.
Nice
Damn good video!
First 💥
This is not a bloom filter. This is a hash set.
Bloom filter uses multiple hash functions.
No.
If you can't find it at the first time, then visit the database, it defeats the purpose the bloom filter.
The ego in the voice discouraged me from watching this video.
You explained this badly.
Very nice video @hnasr