@Julian I disagree Julian. Florida needs and has always needed a way out of Florida [especially in times of emergency] - rather than another money wasting embellished way to Disney. Read my detailed comment above (or below).
@@enjoyslearningandtravel7957 IF it goes to Orlando instead of to Atlanta's hub (it's a route that benefits Disney /Seaworld and other tourist spots) as I suggested b4 as a way to get the citizens out of harms way (fast) than it's a waste of taxpayers money. Do people want a faster way to the tourist spots OR a faster way out of the way of a hurricane..? KEEP in mind that govts are making owning a vehicle in the near future financially ptohibitive...
@@kellikelli4413 when a hurricane is a danger, the train is Not the way to go since the train cannot change their direction but when a hurricane changes directions, a car, or a bus can change direction on a different road. So the suggestion building a train to Atlanta just for hurricane route is not a good idea.
Anybody can cover Disney ride openings. Very few can cover content like this when politics get involved as comprehensively as you have. Very well done Brayden.
@@dang3304 Most people don't think beyond the gas they'll use on the drive. But there's also tire wear, plus wear and tear on the other parts of the car, plus the need to buy a new car sooner. Not to mention the stress of the drive.
@@TomHoffman-uw7pf you're right. I used to rent cars to travel, but this brightline looks promising. Ride to Orlando and have food and drinks on board, wonderful!
When comparing car cost with taking the train, you forget tolls for the Turnpike, which are easily $18 one way. You can avoid tolls by taking US-192 and I-95, but then it will be a much longer drive than 4 hours.
It’s already longer than four hours to begin with, assuming that you’re driving the speed limit. I’m guessing that 3.5 hour figure is pulled from Google Maps or something, having done that drive many times before, I can safely say that it’s closer to five hours to Miami, four just to get to the Palm Beach/Broward County line.
Thanks for mentioning the realistic times and turnpike costs. It truly changes the comparison. Plus there's parking at hotels or at the parks associated with driving. The costs are probably a little closer if you look at ALL of the factors closer.
@@donnawade4025 deff a bit dramatic. It has def taken (at worst) 4:30 hours before if u get stuck in traffic. But with i-95 onto turnpike and into Orlando is 3 hrs and a half more like 3:45 for me cause i drive like a grandma. And i do the drive from downtown miami to downtown orlando several times a year. But if you leave Miami any later then 2 pm. Thats when things start getting rough. 10 am-12 pm is my sweet spot for leaving mia.
Ive worked at a Disney Springs hotel for over 10 years and guests go to Orlando, Miami and Port Canaveral. This train is a great idea, especially for international travelers (keeps em off I4 too!)
I disagree. Floridians don't need more money spent on getting to Disney... They need to get serious and spend the money needed to ELEVATE these problematic trains vs vehicles.... Floridians desperately need a mass transit ESCAPE ROUTE all the way out of Florida (because of hurricanes) .
Life isn't all about fun. Florida desperately needs another route besides the highways, for swift evacuation out of that LONG state (that's common sense and responsibility). It DOESN'T need another way to the Orlando attractions.
Just want to say this is probably the best video you have ever done. You did honest to God journalism: you broke news, you explained complicated topics in an accessible way, and you even suggested where this may all be heading. In the overcrowded world of Disney vloggers I think you’ve found a niche.
Rebadged Chinese train made by Qindao, located Tangshan China. Not riding on that low quality train of embarrassment with shabby business deals with US politicians allowing communist Chinese to build important US infrastructures. Not safe.
Florida Man here. Brightline flies through my city of Melbourne. In my opimion, Brightline needs to make the most economical route from Orlando to Tampa. Disney can pay for their offshoot from Brightline with their own trains. Universal can do the same. Also in the works is an offshoot to Port Canaveral, which now is the busiest cruise port IN THE WORLD. Let these compaies pay their own way, and piggyback off the existing and proposed lines.
Also a Florida Man who used to live in Melbourne, and now in Orlando, and I agree. Brightline desperately needs a Brevard county stop SOMEWHERE. There's too much of a population/tourism attraction base to ignore it entirely.
I live in the Tampa area and the 3 most distant places within Florida that i travel to most frequently are Disney, and Port Canaveral and Miami cruise terminals. It would be amazing to be able to take a train from Tampa to all of those locations and i really hope they can finally agree on a route that makes sense. Just make it happen already.
Tampa needs it own metro system and it looks like we might be missing out on brightline as well!!! Why can’t Tampa get with the program??? It’s a a shame
First off they need a station in Melbourne - cocoa Florida area ( for cruise guests to port Canaveral ) , also for any other travel destinations in that area / also for residents lives in brevard county Florida )
Typically, Brightline has completed initial segments before adding infill stations (think of how both the Aventura and Boca Raton stations were built after the initial Miami-West Palm Beach segment). I’m certain with time Brightline will add infill stations to the Miami-Orlando route in the next few years.
Cocoa station is coming. They purchased a ton of land in Cocoa and Titusville last year and have been developing it since. They usually don't build stations until they have the surrounding area built out with homes and businesses that would utilize them.
My bet is that with the Orlando snafu now bogging down the connection to TAMPA!... Brightline will do the Cocoa Station sooner than planned just in order to keep things rolling while all of these parties continue to bicker and infight over Orlando. "Space Coast" absolutely makes perfect sense for a new stop at a midpoint between West Palm Beach and Orlando Airport. There are a ton of people who would take advantage of a Cocoa Station for NASA/Space X launces, Kennedy Space Centre, Cocoa Beach.. AND... of course.. Port Canaveral for all of the Cruise Ship lines departing and stopping in it. I am convinced a Cocoa Station will happen within a couple of years at most. Brightline has already purchased large chunks of land in and around the area there.
Exciting and expertly done! As a longtime Floridian living a bit north of Orlando. A Brightline airport connection would be amazing. Then parallel tracks for both Sunrail (high speed) and Brightline (local service), sharing the same right-of-way to the convention center, would be incredible.
Great proposal! And the reason the theme parks don't take kindly to mass transit projects is pretty simple: Parking fees. :) Thanks Brayden! Excellent!
Great insight. I have been wondering why Disney would be against high speed rail going to their park. It makes Braden's proposal make even more sense taking that into account. Essentially Reedy Creek could shift some of that parking money to themselves, while doing something great for the people and helping the environment at the same time.
Wow thats kinda greedy... but true unfortunately... Here in Europe parks are usually well connected to public transit, my favourite park, Portaventura in Spain, has an entire train station dedicated to it, and even encourages people to use the train instead of the car with combined tickets that include Entrance + free train ride
Rebadged Chinese train made by Qindao, located Tangshan China. Not riding on that low quality train of embarrassment with shabby business deals with US politicians allowing communist Chinese to build important US infrastructures. Not safe.
We've been waiting for this train, it seems, for my entire adult life. We've made this trip from south Florida over 50 times in the past 35 years. Now, with family living in Orlando, we're doing it about 4 times a year. It will come to fruition right after we retire and move to the area, lol.
Well done Brayden! Very professional production! Congratulations! You took what most would portray as a bland documentary and turned it into an engaging adventure! Now THAT'S art! PLUS: the solution that you espouse is solid logic! Brightline gets what they want, the path of least resistance and, more importantly for their MO, an high speed route from MCO to Tampa. Reedy Creek, as an entity, and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight Board get a brilliant boost to their economy and status as a forthright and worthy community! With a major transit hub and the hotels and businesses that inevitably spring up around Transit Hubs! So the CFTOB looks good, the Governor looks good, Brightline looks good, will get to move forward with their project and will get more passengers. Heck your suggestion is a Win, Win, Win, Win, Win scenario for everyone involved. Yes even Orlando itself and Universal et al!
A Reedy Creek station is an very interesting proposal, and certainly within the scope of the CFTOD, but not possible until the termination of litigation between the CFTOD and Disney, specifically the state case which deals with the allocation of development credits. I'll throw a reference to the idea into a future video. Cheers.
Even if the CFTOD used eminent domain to get land for track and station, Disney could sue and delay or stop any land transfer, delaying construction. Disney would definitely have to rent or sell the land to Brightline in order for a Disney station to be a reality. And then the CFTOD would either be the hero or the villain in approving or disapproving the development.
Thanks for the update! Seems like the realistic/best bet is for Brightline to take the south route, let the city/county figure out a light rail line from the airport.
If Brightline were to get close to Universal's Epic Universe and build a station there, I think of two other route possibilities: 1) Building an end-station and not a through station. So, the trains could backtrack a little bit when going to Tampa and follow the southern alignment initially proposed. 2) There are transmission lines that go between the convention center and Universal's new park and heads to southwest parallel to I-4. With the power lines realignment, I can see tracks on that route. This way the tracks could bypass the denser area close to I-4 and International Drive, saving money and avoiding most of the construction you mentioned in the video.
As a regular Brightline passenger, I must add the entertainment value to the train ride. It is incredibly fun. It is worth the price of admission and entertainment alone.
This video was awesome. Literally the only thing that wasn’t mentioned is the massive amounts of cruise passengers that want to go between Disney, universal, and port Canaveral, Fort Lauderdale and Miami. Right now this involves paying for expensive transfers, or renting a car. Even being able to go from the airport is a huge help, but going from central Orlando would be significantly better! I appreciate your insight. Very well produced video! Thanks!
Imagine all parties working together for the common good. What a concept! Brayden, great video! I think a southern route for high speed and a light rail for Disney/Universal connection would be the best of both worlds.
This is such a professionally done video, I thought I was watching something from a TV channel for a second. Spot on with everything - script, visuals, and lots of information! Absolutely phenomenal!
Great job Brandon. Really excellent overview of the options and I agree with you. That would totally be the best outcome. Cannot wait to take Brightline north to Jacksonville as well.
From South florida to orlando you have to also look at tolls if you take the turnpike and that adds up to $20-30 easy on top of the gas. If you have a truck looking at $40-50 in gas plus tolls in total $60-80.
Using a light rail train graphic from Circular Quay in Sydney is interesting, didn't expect THAT (see timestamp 15:02). Couldn't you find one from the USA (like Charlotte or Newark NJ)? Anyway, if Brightline wants to get to Tampa with less expense and less headaches, they best forget the Disney property station AND the "Convention Center" station and just build the southern route without them.
I would total take Brightline to the popular cruise ports in Port Canaveral, Ft Lauderdale and Miami. The southern route is better. Too much development along Sunshine Corridor. The local residents will flip having a train flying by so close to their homes/businesses. You did a wonderful job producing this video. Great idea of having Reedy Creek to get involved
Excellent analysis. Someone needs to get a hold of the governor's office with this idea. Can you imagine a press conference of Ron Desantis saying they are going to invest in jobs, infrastructure, and tourism by building a Reedy Creek station when Disney abandoned the idea?😂
@@denali9449 He could frame it as it being about more than Disney, but about all businesses in Florida will benefit from the Reedy Creek Train Station because it will connect MCO to all tourist destinations. The project would indirectly benefit the workers and customers of Disney, not the suits in California who didn't want the project in the first place. He could frame it as the suits didnt want it because they knew people would use it for more than Disney, which I think is the real reason why Disney abandoned it.😆
@@adamburnett6415 Please do not take this wrong, but you do not understand the true evil of DeSantis. The man has done absolutely nothing to benefit anyone in Florida other than his extreme right followers. This is not the proper forum to address his failings as governor. Suffice it to say that his issues with Disney were because they had the audacity to speak out against his actions and words. If they had not said anything about his "anti-woke" campaign this DeSantis controlled board would never had been created. Local park workers would not benefit from a high speed rail station which exists to serve the airport and distant cities. Further, a station at what is herein referred to as Reedy Creek will not serve any 'tourist destinations' without huge infrastructure investments in additional transportation needs. It is located at the far southwest end of the I-4 corridor with heavy development separating it from the other parks. And, the property is owned by Disney, good luck buying it. Eminent domain is not being looked upon favorably by the courts to further the financial desires of private companies.
Ron DeSantis is anti-business. He ain't about to let Disney multiply its magic. He's litteraly allowing Nazi group and kkk solicit at the main entrance of Disney World for all the Florida visitors to see.
The West Palm - Orlando segment needs 2 or 3 added stops: Cocoa, Melbourne & Ft. Pierce. Especially Cocoa, for tourist access to NASA facilities. Your revised Reedy Creek station for Brightline seems logical, but Sunrail's East - West routing would need to be factored in as well.
Great video. I like your idea and think to add to it, make the station leave another platform or track space available to let Sunrail come to the station on their own line someday. They would have a station to connect to, and by that time, Disney would likely create a transportation flow into their property from the station. Employees and local visitors would have a means to access the parks via train.
Once again a fair and honest look at another Orlando / Disney / Universal topic. The only reason Brayden and the Mickey Views team doesn’t have more subscribers is they tell the truth too much! Great insights as usual. 👍
As usual you have out done yourself on the video Brayden!!! Great idea to get reedy creek involved. Very forward thinking... you could bring your idea to brightline for a fee and/or acknowledgement. 💕🇨🇦
Spirit flight from FLL to Orlando is $45. So cost wise to Fort Lauderdale, cost and time is less airport to airport. However, with 16 trains a day, the flexibility of being able to catch a train nearly 24x7,no TSA, no cost lugage, and the comfort of the train is a nice tradeoff. I will definitely be trying it,just to say I hit 130mph on a train. And if I have delayed flight/weather issues,it gives some options.
$45 with your backpack (personal item) only and no-seat selection. Add 1 carry-on and the price is $74 (or you can opt for 1-checked instead for $69). Neither price allows any free ticket changes. Then there's the fact that those seats and legroom are far less than Smart-class Brightline. If you want Wi-Fi you'll have to pay extra.
@@MultiSUNFLOWER18 Brightline does charge $10 (sometimes) for checked luggage but you can take luggage that would otherwise be checked on a plane 100% of the time as a carry on instead. I know this because I've done it. As long as it can fit in the scanner it can go. Happened when I arrived too late for checked but could still fit on the scanner. Also, I say sometimes they charge because I've checked luggage several times when heading/returning from Europe and they didn't charge me. Could be that I had a Premium ticket on those occasions.
@@Ven100 I've learned to travel light. Usually just a backpack under the seat. When it's a week or more, I might do a carry on. Travel is way easier and affordable. Only times I check is if it is a scuba trip and I need to take gear. I use Spirit anytime I can get a direct flight, they aren't any worse than American, Frontier, Allegiant or Southwest. And at least I don't have to go through the unassigned seat BS of Southwest.
Another reason why I love trains: they're WAY more efficient than cars and planes than most people realize, i'll say it once and i'll say it again: "Are highways crazed and flights are delayed? Well then its simple: Go By Train!" Edit: After watching further into the video, this actually seems like a good idea
Fantastic video! One quick note about comparing the cost to travel in a car versus the train: fuel is just one of many expenses. Depreciation and maintenance actually constitute larger expenses than fuel. All things considered, on average, it costs about $.50 per mile to drive a car. Therefore, a more realistic comparison of the cost of driving from Miami to Orlando would be $115, versus $79 for one person on the train. So, if you are a family of four, it does make more financial sense to drive, which is probably why the cost was discounted that down to $199, but for a single rider is a no brainer.
Another thing that bright line is looking for is the people coming off the cruise ships taking trips to shopping destinations like Aventura which has the largest mall in the state and maybe even a trip to Orlando to go to the parks
The problem with rail critics is they somehow view rails as a threat to their cars. Like this dude, I have a car and love my car. But I always take the train (in Utah) whenever I can. It’s refreshing to not worry about fighting through I-15 traffic and just sit back and take the Frontrunner (top speed of only about 80 mph tho). High speed would be amazing.
@jdawgfromcali Yeah, most car fans would benefit from having most public people off the highways. Not just ban cars. Banning is not the solution. Fast food causing health problems. Ban fast food. People kill with guns. Ban guns. Shooting. Ban video games. Banning causes more problems than solutions. A good example is the prohibition act.
Having lived in France and had the option for metro, car, bike, and even pedestrian for local, and SNCF trains, bus lines, and airports for regional, it's just objectively better to have all those options. We have car and plane, mostly. It's not as good. I'm excited about Brightline here and the new LA Vegas Brightline opening 2027.
I do like your idea. However that still involves a lot of risk. There’s an abandoned resort complex directly across I-4 from the proposed Reedy Creek Station. Branson is developing his Las Vegas station as more than just a station; it will be its own destination. A Brightline station across from Disney could be very profitable. They’d have to demolish the current buildings but they could build their own hotel(s) and offer transportation to both Disney and Universal. Just an idea.
Love all your proposal! Keep reporting and coming!!! Love the high speed rail by Brightline. Hopefully we can have a truly high speed rail from Orlando to Los Angeles!!! How about by 2027? I will vote for it!
Brightline is not just a train that goes from Orlando to Miami. Brightline is a train that goes from Orlando to multiple cities on the South East Coast of Florida, and that's the advantage that Brightline has.
10:32 11 minutes to go 8.8 miles in the Orlando area!?!? Yeah, maybe at 3:45 in the morning, on a Thursday, in a jet car, with a police escort, when hell froze over! LOL. Love your videos!
Now that I watch the entire video, I would be for the southern route, avoiding Disney entirely, unless they’re contributing and not making rules against it. I think the prime objective should stay connected to Tampa’s, since it is an inter city rail not to stop at every theme park. Orlando should give more money to increase Sunrail to connect, possibly to the theme parks if they contribute or nearby and the convention center etc. and also to increase money, so SonReal can run on weekends too.
Such a great video Brayden, thanks for sharing! I think despite the costs, it’s a great idea and would solve a lot of problems (even if creating some new ones-I think it would be 100% worth it!)
Brayden, you are an excellent reporter! Whenever I watch one of your videos, I have to watch it again and sometimes more to help me better comprehend all of the details.
The price competition is even more favorable to Brightline than you indicate. You only consider fuel, time, and comfort. But there is also the cost of owning the car (wear and tear, registration and other fees). These are more expensive than people often think.
Having developed cost proposals for 40 years in the defense industry there are MANY costs to owning and operating a car that people fail to consider. Currently the federal government’s 2023 reimbursement rate for use of one’s private vehicle is 65.5¢ per mile calculated based on an average car. If you drive a nicer, costlier car it will be much higher.
You could also have a leg to ESPN that won't have to run continuously, only when there are events. The Skyliner would give nearly direct access from Brightline to 5 hotels and 2 theme parks without getting on a bus. You would need a long walk or a boat ride to get to Swan/Dolphin/Boardwalk; making that 8 hotels. Also, if you were frisky and didn't mind schlepping luggage a bit, you wouldn't have to depend on Mears to get you from the airport to Disney.
Great and informative video! One thing that I don't know if you have insight into is the long rumored Cocoa station that would allow cruise passengers to have better access to the Port Canaveral cruise port. It would definitely increase their passenger base and would be almost entirely on the new high speed track. It would only add 10 to 15 minutes to the overall trip.
One potential downside I can think of to a Disney Springs train station is that you may still need to get to the resort. So I can imagine the regular Disney Transport buses becoming cramped due to luggage or fights happening because they wont allow this and Disney not wanting the expense of additional coaches like the old Magical Express.
@@TheTrainWatch Yes but it's still an additional cost and would still require coaches, so it's not like they can just reuse their existing fleet. I'm not saying there aren't potential benefits, just that I have little faith in Disney as of now to be willing to invest in these kinds of services, regardless of said potential.
I think barring any Disney buses, I'd just take an Uber to the hotel. I live in the Tampa Bay area and to cut that I-4 mess out of the trip both ways would be worth it.
Thanks for the update. Clear and to the point. Personally I think the sunshine corridor would be more beneficial for the region but we will see what happens. It will be interesting to follow.
I’m literally blown away by the complete and thorough thought process that you took to bring in on this video. Wow Brayden! Fantastic job truly. Your points made about the Reedy Creek group using this as a money maker is just genius. Bravo on all aspects … 🎉❤
We usually rent a car when we go to Disney from Delray Beach. If the 3 of us can get to Disney for $450 round trip, no rental, no gas, no tolls, no parking, no traffic. Yeah, I think that's a good deal
Thank you for that detail explanation. As a business traveler , I like the idea of a stop near the convention center. However, I understand the problems of running a line through there. I would rather use a local rail line from the airport station to the Convention Center which have local stops to hotels, tourist attractions and commuters. Brightline could then focus on a line to Tampa with maybe one stop at Lakeland too( like the Aventura and Boca Raton stops). I would also like to see one stop in the future near Melbourne for tourists that want go to the Space Center and Beaches.
I could be wrong, but Brayden alluded to this in a previous video, saying a lot of land and infrastructure would need to be given up to put a station on property. The station needs to be very long to accommodate the train. Plus obviously the costs involved. However, I know you said *near* the property. I don't believe Disney has made any comments for or against rail near the property that they need not pay for or give up land or infrastructure for. Again, I could be wrong.
@@everlastingarms3065 Disney has 49 square miles of property, and stations are really not very big, especially if they are either elevated or below ground. They could put a station on top of Buena Vista Drive between Grapefruit and Lime garages and it would take zero space.
A train not only makes it easier for local guests to come, it makes it easier for international guests to leave. When guests are coming to Florida for a week or two they want to keep them on property as long as possible, the train makes it easier to break up those longer trips to multiple destinations.
@@natelevy1040 Good point. I wonder what analysis they've done to figure out if they can capture people longer by not having transportation, or if they can get more people shorter time by having transportation. There's local and theres local. The Orlando locals will get a season pass, drop by, ride a couple rides, not buy the overpriced food and trinkets and leave. A "local" from Miami who can easily get to a train station, which goes direct to the park/property in the morning, and stay all day will very likely buy the overpriced food and trinkets.
@@boomergames8094 That analysis was done years ago when Disney first started running their own bus service to MCO. Disney provides the door-to-door from MCO to the hotel and back. Getting off Disney property without a local connection or a rental car is difficult; yes, some resorts are served by city bus lines but they are mainly for local cast members to get to and from work. Disney does not want you wandering off their property.
I like your proposal of a Reedy Creek station on the edge of Disney property or even across the street. With the proliferation of rideshare in Orlando, if they built it with a dedicated rideshare pick up and drop off area in the station, Lyft and Uber can fulfill the need to get people from that station to any of the hotels or attractions in western Orlando at a reasonable cost, far cheaper than renting a car for several days or weeks.
This is genuinely the best video about this subject I have seen. You explained it all better than even Brightline themselves at the press event.
@Julian
I disagree Julian. Florida needs and has always needed a way out of Florida [especially in times of emergency] - rather than another money wasting embellished way to Disney. Read my detailed comment above (or below).
@@kellikelli4413 it is already been decided that this train will Not go to Disney
@@enjoyslearningandtravel7957
IF it goes to Orlando instead of to Atlanta's hub (it's a route that benefits Disney /Seaworld and other tourist spots) as I suggested b4 as a way to get the citizens out of harms way (fast) than it's a waste of taxpayers money.
Do people want a faster way to the tourist spots OR a faster way out of the way of a hurricane..?
KEEP in mind that govts are making owning a vehicle in the near future financially ptohibitive...
@@kellikelli4413 I don’t think making a train route just to get people out of hurricane is realistic.
@@kellikelli4413 when a hurricane is a danger, the train is Not the way to go since the train cannot change their direction but when a hurricane changes directions, a car, or a bus can change direction on a different road. So the suggestion building a train to Atlanta just for hurricane route is not a good idea.
Anybody can cover Disney ride openings. Very few can cover content like this when politics get involved as comprehensively as you have. Very well done Brayden.
Brayden give your heart and life to Jesus Christ he gave you a wonderful beautiful brain !!! Your a smart cookie my friend
Driving doesnt cost $40; it costs $40 + four hours your attention. Brightline only costs $79, so it's worth it if your time is worth more than $10/hr.
@@dang3304 dude genius lol I’m all about just chillin and being there hanging out instead of actually driving
@@dang3304 Most people don't think beyond the gas they'll use on the drive. But there's also tire wear, plus wear and tear on the other parts of the car, plus the need to buy a new car sooner. Not to mention the stress of the drive.
@@TomHoffman-uw7pf you're right. I used to rent cars to travel, but this brightline looks promising. Ride to Orlando and have food and drinks on board, wonderful!
When comparing car cost with taking the train, you forget tolls for the Turnpike, which are easily $18 one way. You can avoid tolls by taking US-192 and I-95, but then it will be a much longer drive than 4 hours.
It’s already longer than four hours to begin with, assuming that you’re driving the speed limit. I’m guessing that 3.5 hour figure is pulled from Google Maps or something, having done that drive many times before, I can safely say that it’s closer to five hours to Miami, four just to get to the Palm Beach/Broward County line.
Any possibility of the train then going south following I-75 to Fort Myers, Naples & back across Alligator Alley to where it started??
@@donnawade4025 I’ve not heard anything about that. It’s taken well over 5 years for the train to get from Miami to Orlando.
Thanks for mentioning the realistic times and turnpike costs. It truly changes the comparison. Plus there's parking at hotels or at the parks associated with driving. The costs are probably a little closer if you look at ALL of the factors closer.
@@donnawade4025 deff a bit dramatic. It has def taken (at worst) 4:30 hours before if u get stuck in traffic. But with i-95 onto turnpike and into
Orlando is 3 hrs and a half more like 3:45 for me cause i drive like a grandma.
And i do the drive from downtown miami to downtown orlando several times a year. But if you leave Miami any later then 2 pm. Thats when things start getting rough. 10 am-12 pm is my sweet spot for leaving mia.
Ive worked at a Disney Springs hotel for over 10 years and guests go to Orlando, Miami and Port Canaveral. This train is a great idea, especially for international travelers (keeps em off I4 too!)
The keeping them I4 is what I like best.
No information on a stop near Melbourne yet 😢. I’m thinking one may open after the Margaritaville resort opens.
I disagree. Floridians don't need more money spent on getting to Disney...
They need to get serious and spend the money needed to ELEVATE these problematic trains vs vehicles.... Floridians desperately need a mass transit ESCAPE ROUTE all the way out of Florida (because of hurricanes) .
And you gets to miss the numerous toll grabs.
Life isn't all about fun. Florida desperately needs another route besides the highways, for swift evacuation out of that LONG state (that's common sense and responsibility).
It DOESN'T need another way to the Orlando attractions.
Just want to say this is probably the best video you have ever done. You did honest to God journalism: you broke news, you explained complicated topics in an accessible way, and you even suggested where this may all be heading. In the overcrowded world of Disney vloggers I think you’ve found a niche.
Rebadged Chinese train made by Qindao, located Tangshan China. Not riding on that low quality train of embarrassment with shabby business deals with US politicians allowing communist Chinese to build important US infrastructures. Not safe.
Florida Man here. Brightline flies through my city of Melbourne.
In my opimion, Brightline needs to make the most economical route from Orlando to Tampa. Disney can pay for their offshoot from Brightline with their own trains. Universal can do the same. Also in the works is an offshoot to Port Canaveral, which now is the busiest cruise port IN THE WORLD. Let these compaies pay their own way, and piggyback off the existing and proposed lines.
It is in Brightlines interest to build those themselves, as those are exactly the kind of destinations that bring in a lot of passengers and profit.
When is the offshoot expected to get the green light? The Margaritaville resort opening is delayed. I also live in Melbourne.
@@NuNugirl bright line is still in negotiations with the port per Florida Today a few months ago.
Also a Florida Man who used to live in Melbourne, and now in Orlando, and I agree. Brightline desperately needs a Brevard county stop SOMEWHERE. There's too much of a population/tourism attraction base to ignore it entirely.
I believe the train will go to neither Disney nor universal, but stopping at the City convention center
Better coverage than any news channel could ever dream of.
I live in the Tampa area and the 3 most distant places within Florida that i travel to most frequently are Disney, and Port Canaveral and Miami cruise terminals. It would be amazing to be able to take a train from Tampa to all of those locations and i really hope they can finally agree on a route that makes sense. Just make it happen already.
Disney sucks!!
U visit Disney? U must be a liberal
Tampa needs it own metro system and it looks like we might be missing out on brightline as well!!! Why can’t Tampa get with the program??? It’s a a shame
Orlando needs to build out their own metro rail.
There is one (8:50) .. called sunrail
@@Nolibtards_allowed barely. It does not go anywhere important.
Just for it to all be under water soon anyway
@@dollatwelve It also doesn't run in the evenings or on weekends. A real disappointment as a local.
@@dollatwelve well, it’s only important enough for people that don’t have a car
First off they need a station in Melbourne - cocoa Florida area ( for cruise guests to port Canaveral ) , also for any other travel destinations in that area / also for residents lives in brevard county Florida )
Typically, Brightline has completed initial segments before adding infill stations (think of how both the Aventura and Boca Raton stations were built after the initial Miami-West Palm Beach segment). I’m certain with time Brightline will add infill stations to the Miami-Orlando route in the next few years.
Cocoa station is coming. They purchased a ton of land in Cocoa and Titusville last year and have been developing it since. They usually don't build stations until they have the surrounding area built out with homes and businesses that would utilize them.
My bet is that with the Orlando snafu now bogging down the connection to TAMPA!... Brightline will do the Cocoa Station sooner than planned just in order to keep things rolling while all of these parties continue to bicker and infight over Orlando.
"Space Coast" absolutely makes perfect sense for a new stop at a midpoint between West Palm Beach and Orlando Airport. There are a ton of people who would take advantage of a Cocoa Station for NASA/Space X launces, Kennedy Space Centre, Cocoa Beach.. AND... of course.. Port Canaveral for all of the Cruise Ship lines departing and stopping in it.
I am convinced a Cocoa Station will happen within a couple of years at most. Brightline has already purchased large chunks of land in and around the area there.
Exciting and expertly done! As a longtime Floridian living a bit north of Orlando. A Brightline airport connection would be amazing. Then parallel tracks for both Sunrail (high speed) and Brightline (local service), sharing the same right-of-way to the convention center, would be incredible.
Great proposal! And the reason the theme parks don't take kindly to mass transit projects is pretty simple: Parking fees. :) Thanks Brayden! Excellent!
Great insight. I have been wondering why Disney would be against high speed rail going to their park. It makes Braden's proposal make even more sense taking that into account. Essentially Reedy Creek could shift some of that parking money to themselves, while doing something great for the people and helping the environment at the same time.
Wow thats kinda greedy... but true unfortunately... Here in Europe parks are usually well connected to public transit, my favourite park, Portaventura in Spain, has an entire train station dedicated to it, and even encourages people to use the train instead of the car with combined tickets that include Entrance + free train ride
I never thought of that but I think you’re absolutely right.
@@dj03 Disney? Greedy? No way😅
Nicely put. If I was Brightline, I'd ignore all the theme parks and stick to the inter-city plan.
I'd ignore the Orlando-area governments as well...
Another top notch news coverage video on this topic. Brayden really knows how to deliver information well, clear and concise. Well done.
Rebadged Chinese train made by Qindao, located Tangshan China. Not riding on that low quality train of embarrassment with shabby business deals with US politicians allowing communist Chinese to build important US infrastructures. Not safe.
How can we nominate this video for an award? This was EXCELLENT analysis and reporting.
We've been waiting for this train, it seems, for my entire adult life. We've made this trip from south Florida over 50 times in the past 35 years. Now, with family living in Orlando, we're doing it about 4 times a year. It will come to fruition right after we retire and move to the area, lol.
Really well done video. Script, editing, research, everything. Bravo.
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Is it just me or did Brayden really up his game with the production of this video? Bravo!
Nah, they've all been pretty great recently ;)
Well done Brayden! Very professional production! Congratulations! You took what most would portray as a bland documentary and turned it into an engaging adventure! Now THAT'S art!
PLUS: the solution that you espouse is solid logic!
Brightline gets what they want, the path of least resistance and, more importantly for their MO, an high speed route from MCO to Tampa.
Reedy Creek, as an entity, and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight Board get a brilliant boost to their economy and status as a forthright and worthy community! With a major transit hub and the hotels and businesses that inevitably spring up around Transit Hubs!
So the CFTOB looks good, the Governor looks good, Brightline looks good, will get to move forward with their project and will get more passengers.
Heck your suggestion is a Win, Win, Win, Win, Win scenario for everyone involved. Yes even Orlando itself and Universal et al!
A Reedy Creek station is an very interesting proposal, and certainly within the scope of the CFTOD, but not possible until the termination of litigation between the CFTOD and Disney, specifically the state case which deals with the allocation of development credits. I'll throw a reference to the idea into a future video. Cheers.
Even if the CFTOD used eminent domain to get land for track and station, Disney could sue and delay or stop any land transfer, delaying construction. Disney would definitely have to rent or sell the land to Brightline in order for a Disney station to be a reality. And then the CFTOD would either be the hero or the villain in approving or disapproving the development.
Thanks for the update! Seems like the realistic/best bet is for Brightline to take the south route, let the city/county figure out a light rail line from the airport.
If Brightline were to get close to Universal's Epic Universe and build a station there, I think of two other route possibilities:
1) Building an end-station and not a through station. So, the trains could backtrack a little bit when going to Tampa and follow the southern alignment initially proposed.
2) There are transmission lines that go between the convention center and Universal's new park and heads to southwest parallel to I-4. With the power lines realignment, I can see tracks on that route. This way the tracks could bypass the denser area close to I-4 and International Drive, saving money and avoiding most of the construction you mentioned in the video.
Another great production. Thanks for your imaginative coverage of this important discussion.
As a regular Brightline passenger, I must add the entertainment value to the train ride. It is incredibly fun. It is worth the price of admission and entertainment alone.
How much is it
Very detailed analysis. Thank you Brayden. Interesting take on the possible route to Tampa and the site and source of funding.
This video was awesome. Literally the only thing that wasn’t mentioned is the massive amounts of cruise passengers that want to go between Disney, universal, and port Canaveral, Fort Lauderdale and Miami. Right now this involves paying for expensive transfers, or renting a car. Even being able to go from the airport is a huge help, but going from central Orlando would be significantly better! I appreciate your insight. Very well produced video! Thanks!
Actually, I got from Orlando airport for about two dollars on the city bus to international Drive
Imagine all parties working together for the common good. What a concept! Brayden, great video! I think a southern route for high speed and a light rail for Disney/Universal connection would be the best of both worlds.
Here here!
Yet another GREAT video. They just keep getting better! Thank you!
This is such a professionally done video, I thought I was watching something from a TV channel for a second. Spot on with everything - script, visuals, and lots of information! Absolutely phenomenal!
Fantastic video!!!! You make the best WDW videos hands down!!!!
Great job Brandon. Really excellent overview of the options and I agree with you. That would totally be the best outcome. Cannot wait to take Brightline north to Jacksonville as well.
I’m really hoping they connect it to Jacksonville!!!
This is well put together, and with very good updates. I am looking forward to your upcoming video's.
The quality and insight of your videos kills the competition and you are improving which is great!!! Keep it up!!
From South florida to orlando you have to also look at tolls if you take the turnpike and that adds up to $20-30 easy on top of the gas. If you have a truck looking at $40-50 in gas plus tolls in total $60-80.
Very valid point
Using a light rail train graphic from Circular Quay in Sydney is interesting, didn't expect THAT (see timestamp 15:02). Couldn't you find one from the USA (like Charlotte or Newark NJ)? Anyway, if Brightline wants to get to Tampa with less expense and less headaches, they best forget the Disney property station AND the "Convention Center" station and just build the southern route without them.
Awesome video, Brayden. Informative and speedy. Looking forward to Brightline expanding to north florida.
Me too, as long as they don’t forget that Gainesville is a city that needs connections to all of the rest of the state!
Braydon for governor. You always have great out of the box thoughts and ideas
I would total take Brightline to the popular cruise ports in Port Canaveral, Ft Lauderdale and Miami. The southern route is better. Too much development along Sunshine Corridor. The local residents will flip having a train flying by so close to their homes/businesses.
You did a wonderful job producing this video. Great idea of having Reedy Creek to get involved
Mco -> port canaveral makes soooo much sense. The number of busses that run that route daily … and 3/4 of the route is already built!
Great idea, especially MCO to Port Canaveral.
The cruise industry is growing there and such a train would make sense for so many parties.
Great work, Brayden. You will be right. Peace & Prayers.
Excellent analysis. Someone needs to get a hold of the governor's office with this idea. Can you imagine a press conference of Ron Desantis saying they are going to invest in jobs, infrastructure, and tourism by building a Reedy Creek station when Disney abandoned the idea?😂
Problem is that it in the end it would benefit Disney, something DeSantis would never allow.
@@denali9449 He could frame it as it being about more than Disney, but about all businesses in Florida will benefit from the Reedy Creek Train Station because it will connect MCO to all tourist destinations. The project would indirectly benefit the workers and customers of Disney, not the suits in California who didn't want the project in the first place. He could frame it as the suits didnt want it because they knew people would use it for more than Disney, which I think is the real reason why Disney abandoned it.😆
@@adamburnett6415 Please do not take this wrong, but you do not understand the true evil of DeSantis. The man has done absolutely nothing to benefit anyone in Florida other than his extreme right followers. This is not the proper forum to address his failings as governor. Suffice it to say that his issues with Disney were because they had the audacity to speak out against his actions and words. If they had not said anything about his "anti-woke" campaign this DeSantis controlled board would never had been created.
Local park workers would not benefit from a high speed rail station which exists to serve the airport and distant cities.
Further, a station at what is herein referred to as Reedy Creek will not serve any 'tourist destinations' without huge infrastructure investments in additional transportation needs. It is located at the far southwest end of the I-4 corridor with heavy development separating it from the other parks. And, the property is owned by Disney, good luck buying it. Eminent domain is not being looked upon favorably by the courts to further the financial desires of private companies.
Ron DeSantis is anti-business. He ain't about to let Disney multiply its magic. He's litteraly allowing Nazi group and kkk solicit at the main entrance of Disney World for all the Florida visitors to see.
Great research and information. I agree with your views. As always you do fantastic job breaking this things down!
An amazing job producing your video. It offered great insight in an easy to understand way.
This channel is the most useful and informative one on UA-cam for me.
I think we know what’s going to happen to the property that the Star Cruiser currently sits on. A Reedy Creek Brightline station!
Wow, Brayden... this is so detailed and well put together. Thank you so much.
Great video!
You are such an excelt source of insightful information Braydon..Thank you
The West Palm - Orlando segment needs 2 or 3 added stops: Cocoa, Melbourne & Ft. Pierce. Especially Cocoa, for tourist access to NASA facilities. Your revised Reedy Creek station for Brightline seems logical, but Sunrail's East - West routing would need to be factored in as well.
Great video. I like your idea and think to add to it, make the station leave another platform or track space available to let Sunrail come to the station on their own line someday. They would have a station to connect to, and by that time, Disney would likely create a transportation flow into their property from the station. Employees and local visitors would have a means to access the parks via train.
Once again a fair and honest look at another Orlando / Disney / Universal topic.
The only reason Brayden and the Mickey Views team doesn’t have more subscribers is they tell the truth too much! Great insights as usual. 👍
Love the background music on this one BRADEN!!
Wonderful and informative video thanks for keeping us so up to date!
As usual you have out done yourself on the video Brayden!!! Great idea to get reedy creek involved. Very forward thinking... you could bring your idea to brightline for a fee and/or acknowledgement. 💕🇨🇦
Wow!! Terrific and very interesting video. You really put in a lot of efforts into your news reporting. Theresa 😊 xo
Spirit flight from FLL to Orlando is $45. So cost wise to Fort Lauderdale, cost and time is less airport to airport. However, with 16 trains a day, the flexibility of being able to catch a train nearly 24x7,no TSA, no cost lugage, and the comfort of the train is a nice tradeoff. I will definitely be trying it,just to say I hit 130mph on a train. And if I have delayed flight/weather issues,it gives some options.
yeah but then you'd have to ride with spirit..
$45 with your backpack (personal item) only and no-seat selection. Add 1 carry-on and the price is $74 (or you can opt for 1-checked instead for $69). Neither price allows any free ticket changes. Then there's the fact that those seats and legroom are far less than Smart-class Brightline. If you want Wi-Fi you'll have to pay extra.
Brightline is charging for luggage.
@@MultiSUNFLOWER18 Brightline does charge $10 (sometimes) for checked luggage but you can take luggage that would otherwise be checked on a plane 100% of the time as a carry on instead. I know this because I've done it. As long as it can fit in the scanner it can go. Happened when I arrived too late for checked but could still fit on the scanner. Also, I say sometimes they charge because I've checked luggage several times when heading/returning from Europe and they didn't charge me. Could be that I had a Premium ticket on those occasions.
@@Ven100 I've learned to travel light. Usually just a backpack under the seat. When it's a week or more, I might do a carry on. Travel is way easier and affordable. Only times I check is if it is a scuba trip and I need to take gear. I use Spirit anytime I can get a direct flight, they aren't any worse than American, Frontier, Allegiant or Southwest. And at least I don't have to go through the unassigned seat BS of Southwest.
You're such a great journalist
Very well done with the graphics etc. Must have taken a lot of work and extremely professionally produced.
Another reason why I love trains: they're WAY more efficient than cars and planes than most people realize, i'll say it once and i'll say it again:
"Are highways crazed and flights are delayed? Well then its simple: Go By Train!"
Edit: After watching further into the video, this actually seems like a good idea
This is just the best Orlando channel! Thank you Brandon 😊
Fantastic video! One quick note about comparing the cost to travel in a car versus the train: fuel is just one of many expenses. Depreciation and maintenance actually constitute larger expenses than fuel. All things considered, on average, it costs about $.50 per mile to drive a car. Therefore, a more realistic comparison of the cost of driving from Miami to Orlando would be $115, versus $79 for one person on the train. So, if you are a family of four, it does make more financial sense to drive, which is probably why the cost was discounted that down to $199, but for a single rider is a no brainer.
This, 100%.
Thanks!
Another thing that bright line is looking for is the people coming off the cruise ships taking trips to shopping destinations like Aventura which has the largest mall in the state and maybe even a trip to Orlando to go to the parks
Thank you for the awesome content and commentary!! So much is happening in this huge endeavor and you summed it up simply and succinctly!! 👏🏻👏🏻💪🏻
The problem with rail critics is they somehow view rails as a threat to their cars. Like this dude, I have a car and love my car. But I always take the train (in Utah) whenever I can. It’s refreshing to not worry about fighting through I-15 traffic and just sit back and take the Frontrunner (top speed of only about 80 mph tho). High speed would be amazing.
Is mostly not that they hate trains. Is that most rail fan hate cars like want to ban them
@@Heavy_weapons07 Maybe the loudest activists, but people in my circles love having options.
@jdawgfromcali Yeah, most car fans would benefit from having most public people off the highways. Not just ban cars. Banning is not the solution. Fast food causing health problems. Ban fast food. People kill with guns. Ban guns. Shooting. Ban video games. Banning causes more problems than solutions. A good example is the prohibition act.
Having lived in France and had the option for metro, car, bike, and even pedestrian for local, and SNCF trains, bus lines, and airports for regional, it's just objectively better to have all those options. We have car and plane, mostly. It's not as good. I'm excited about Brightline here and the new LA Vegas Brightline opening 2027.
@VulcanLogic that's sound great. Maybe a little buff to car and is perfect...to bad politics ruins that...every time
So informative! Thank you for the facts, insight, and possibilities. Appreciate your honesty. Video was very well put together too!
I do like your idea. However that still involves a lot of risk. There’s an abandoned resort complex directly across I-4 from the proposed Reedy Creek Station. Branson is developing his Las Vegas station as more than just a station; it will be its own destination. A Brightline station across from Disney could be very profitable. They’d have to demolish the current buildings but they could build their own hotel(s) and offer transportation to both Disney and Universal. Just an idea.
Love all your proposal! Keep reporting and coming!!! Love the high speed rail by Brightline. Hopefully we can have a truly high speed rail from Orlando to Los Angeles!!! How about by 2027? I will vote for it!
Brightline is not just a train that goes from Orlando to Miami.
Brightline is a train that goes from Orlando to multiple cities on the South East Coast of Florida, and that's the advantage that Brightline has.
10:32 11 minutes to go 8.8 miles in the Orlando area!?!? Yeah, maybe at 3:45 in the morning, on a Thursday, in a jet car, with a police escort, when hell froze over! LOL. Love your videos!
Now that I watch the entire video, I would be for the southern route, avoiding Disney entirely, unless they’re contributing and not making rules against it. I think the prime objective should stay connected to Tampa’s, since it is an inter city rail not to stop at every theme park.
Orlando should give more money to increase Sunrail to connect, possibly to the theme parks if they contribute or nearby and the convention center etc. and also to increase money, so SonReal can run on weekends too.
Thank you for you video. It’s all about educating the general public that doesn’t have intercity rail, and why it works so well.
This is such an out of the box and creative idea, Brayden! I approve..
Such a great video Brayden, thanks for sharing!
I think despite the costs, it’s a great idea and would solve a lot of problems (even if creating some new ones-I think it would be 100% worth it!)
Brayden, you are an excellent reporter! Whenever I watch one of your videos, I have to watch it again and sometimes more to help me better comprehend all of the details.
Thank you! Outstanding!
Brightline needs to say Goodbye to Orlando (besides the airport), backtrack down their own line and head across FL to Tampa from Kissimmee.
Truly excellent. Please keep us posted on any updates
The price competition is even more favorable to Brightline than you indicate. You only consider fuel, time, and comfort. But there is also the cost of owning the car (wear and tear, registration and other fees). These are more expensive than people often think.
Exactly. So many people try to compute the cost of driving as "gas and tolls".
Having developed cost proposals for 40 years in the defense industry there are MANY costs to owning and operating a car that people fail to consider. Currently the federal government’s 2023 reimbursement rate for use of one’s private vehicle is 65.5¢ per mile calculated based on an average car. If you drive a nicer, costlier car it will be much higher.
You explained it well'. Great and interesting video.
Interesting idea. Also notice it wouldn't be that hard for Disney to extend the Skyliner south from Art of Animation/Pop Century.
You could also have a leg to ESPN that won't have to run continuously, only when there are events. The Skyliner would give nearly direct access from Brightline to 5 hotels and 2 theme parks without getting on a bus. You would need a long walk or a boat ride to get to Swan/Dolphin/Boardwalk; making that 8 hotels. Also, if you were frisky and didn't mind schlepping luggage a bit, you wouldn't have to depend on Mears to get you from the airport to Disney.
Simply brilliant Brayden - thank you!
we need to start calling reedy creek to get this idea into their heads to have a reedy creek station
Definitely your best one yet on this railway topic. Great job
That corridor through Universal would make sense for light rail to connect with Brightline
Great and informative video! One thing that I don't know if you have insight into is the long rumored Cocoa station that would allow cruise passengers to have better access to the Port Canaveral cruise port. It would definitely increase their passenger base and would be almost entirely on the new high speed track. It would only add 10 to 15 minutes to the overall trip.
One potential downside I can think of to a Disney Springs train station is that you may still need to get to the resort. So I can imagine the regular Disney Transport buses becoming cramped due to luggage or fights happening because they wont allow this and Disney not wanting the expense of additional coaches like the old Magical Express.
Magical express coaches from an on property site would be a lot cheaper than from the airport
@@TheTrainWatch Yes but it's still an additional cost and would still require coaches, so it's not like they can just reuse their existing fleet.
I'm not saying there aren't potential benefits, just that I have little faith in Disney as of now to be willing to invest in these kinds of services, regardless of said potential.
I think barring any Disney buses, I'd just take an Uber to the hotel. I live in the Tampa Bay area and to cut that I-4 mess out of the trip both ways would be worth it.
@@keithralston1133 Expect Minney Vans to be given priority, with Uber pickup points being on the backside of Pluto.
Thank you, Brayden, for all of your research!
I would run Bright Line between the cities and Sunrail from the city stops to local Attractions and points of interest!
this is such an incredible informative video about this whole situation. thank you so much
Thanks for the update. Clear and to the point. Personally I think the sunshine corridor would be more beneficial for the region but we will see what happens. It will be interesting to follow.
I’m literally blown away by the complete and thorough thought process that you took to bring in on this video. Wow Brayden! Fantastic job truly. Your points made about the Reedy Creek group using this as a money maker is just genius. Bravo on all aspects … 🎉❤
Not gonna lie I kinda want to move to Florida 😊
That Florida controlled reedy creek station sounds the best to me, it legit makes the most sense.
Brilliant Braden! Well said
We usually rent a car when we go to Disney from Delray Beach. If the 3 of us can get to Disney for $450 round trip, no rental, no gas, no tolls, no parking, no traffic. Yeah, I think that's a good deal
Wow this was a wonderfully made video. Bravo! Lots of hard work here
Finally a new video
Thank you for that detail explanation. As a business traveler , I like the idea of a stop near the convention center. However, I understand the problems of running a line through there. I would rather use a local rail line from the airport station to the Convention Center which have local stops to hotels, tourist attractions and commuters. Brightline could then focus on a line to Tampa with maybe one stop at Lakeland too( like the Aventura and Boca Raton stops). I would also like to see one stop in the future near Melbourne for tourists that want go to the Space Center and Beaches.
Would like a video on why Disney would be opposed to a stop near their property.
I could be wrong, but Brayden alluded to this in a previous video, saying a lot of land and infrastructure would need to be given up to put a station on property. The station needs to be very long to accommodate the train. Plus obviously the costs involved.
However, I know you said *near* the property. I don't believe Disney has made any comments for or against rail near the property that they need not pay for or give up land or infrastructure for.
Again, I could be wrong.
@@everlastingarms3065 Disney has 49 square miles of property, and stations are really not very big, especially if they are either elevated or below ground. They could put a station on top of Buena Vista Drive between Grapefruit and Lime garages and it would take zero space.
A train not only makes it easier for local guests to come, it makes it easier for international guests to leave. When guests are coming to Florida for a week or two they want to keep them on property as long as possible, the train makes it easier to break up those longer trips to multiple destinations.
@@natelevy1040 Good point. I wonder what analysis they've done to figure out if they can capture people longer by not having transportation, or if they can get more people shorter time by having transportation.
There's local and theres local. The Orlando locals will get a season pass, drop by, ride a couple rides, not buy the overpriced food and trinkets and leave. A "local" from Miami who can easily get to a train station, which goes direct to the park/property in the morning, and stay all day will very likely buy the overpriced food and trinkets.
@@boomergames8094 That analysis was done years ago when Disney first started running their own bus service to MCO. Disney provides the door-to-door from MCO to the hotel and back. Getting off Disney property without a local connection or a rental car is difficult; yes, some resorts are served by city bus lines but they are mainly for local cast members to get to and from work. Disney does not want you wandering off their property.
King of Content, Sir Brayden! Great work and thank you!
Well done Brayden, I really hope someone with some authority sees this video.
I like your proposal of a Reedy Creek station on the edge of Disney property or even across the street. With the proliferation of rideshare in Orlando, if they built it with a dedicated rideshare pick up and drop off area in the station, Lyft and Uber can fulfill the need to get people from that station to any of the hotels or attractions in western Orlando at a reasonable cost, far cheaper than renting a car for several days or weeks.