Thanks Chris😊 I only had two flights recorded before I disassembled it. I took the best One of those two flights for this video comparison. One shows 3869 and the other is 3872, as close as I could humanly get it 😅
In my opinion not that I know anything in a hover or slow flight you will not see a gain in efficiency but mid to full throttle in forward flight there may be an improvement with the ducts. But what do I know 🤦♂️ lol!
Hey Mike. Actually it’s not even close. When you look at the data at the end you will see the one that is without the ducts flew longer than the one with by over a minute. The amp draw difference was about 50%. The faster you move with the ducts it gets worse because of the angle of attack, it’s like stalling a wing. Now if you think I have no idea what I’m talking about you are a head of the others 😂 but if they keep on watching they will learn I’m full of 💩😅
@@Gordon-Scott lol, good one Gordon as for the two displays at the end of the video I could not read either one lol, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! 😝👍 Clever buddy!
@@mikesrcgarage actually that really was his name 😂 there were three of us Gordon’s, my grandfather my uncle and myself. They started calling me Scott when I was just a baby to lessen the confusion 🥸🤓👦😁 he was brilliant but a little crazy 🤪😇
Awesome testing brother!! Need to lose a little weight myself but I'm to old to change my flight time now.. 🤣 Love these test vids! Thanks for the effort I know it takes time!!
Thanks brother I did the best I could with it. You’ll notice the milliamp hours are almost exact when I land. The fatal flaw in any testing is the human element, take me out of the equation and it would be more accurate but I did the best I could. I will post the results continuing on but something has surprised me about this next test, I have to do a few more flights and then analyze the data.
Thank you friend 🙏 I would love to see some videos of your home where you live 😊 I like where you bring your son to go fishing at his grandmothers house I believe 😊
@@Gordon-Scott Well maybe later when he has school holidays, I will visit there, if it's close it can be done every day, approximately 32km from where I live now, I'm just sorry I can't present shows like your video, hope one day I can take pictures from the air..thank you my friend gordon.
Hey Gene, it’s just a marketing gimmick. They don’t work they never have never will. They are loud and do not fly well, in other words you are not missing anything 😂
@@Gordon-Scott there's 💩💩 to download and use for them from what I understand and I'm not interested in that part as I'm getting along with the stuff (💩) I got right now lol there's esc stuff to work with and other thing's to tweak on them , not for me 😁
Was this a double blind study? I've often wondered about these so called ducts. Being in the HVAC/R world we call these fan cowlings, and they play a very important roll on air flow, but we're not flying equipment, just forcing air thru coils. Without the cowling the captured air can flow around said coils. But we don't deal with prop wash, vortex effect, etc. Rule of thumb is the fan blade sits 1/3 outside the cowling to capture the air. With that said, I always figured the whoop ducts didn't help much if any lmao! Great video and testing Gordon. I learned something today!! 👊😎
Joshua Bardwell always cracked me up with his intro 😁 there is a lot going on here with ducts. The principal is solid, the problem comes when we start to move in any direction. Also the tolerances needed in machining for this to work properly is cost prohibitive. Air flows faster over a curved surface, Low pressure underneath generates lift. A proper duct shape at the inlet will create the same effect. But when you start moving forward you are changing the angle of attack and go into a stall. they’ve been trying this shit since the 40s and if it worked you would see it on all types of aircraft but you don’t 🤷🏻♂️ it kind of pisses me off, marketing 101. It kind of reminds me of the marketing of 1950s cars when the tail fin became popular. One manufacturer came up with it and the others had to do it otherwise they would lose sales. These companies know that this doesn’t work, but it sells and makes them money and if they don’t make it their competition will.
@@ILLBEDRONED I am so glad you brought that up! And which way are they facing? And notice the shape is like a wing 🧐 accelerating the air to the blades. Now let’s take that same Engine and turn it vertical 😁
@@Gordon-Scott must be why all the Marine Ospreys don't have ducts lol!! The jet engine attitude does change in flight, but we're back to perfectly machined clearances and engineering. Thanks to Wilbur and Orville for starting this whole concept of flight!! 👊😎
I’m not sure? I usually post in at least 2K but this is analog recorded from the goggles. It was downloaded at a much lower resolution. check your settings to make sure that when you Watch my other videos it is in the highest resolution you can watch. I know sometimes I have to manually change it in settings 🤷🏻♂️🤔
sorry gordon..it wasn't the picture that made me go straight to the video above..everything is good..but my eyes are more interested in the video above..that's what it means..thank you
yes i also understand now..maybe because the video above is more of a challenge by breaking through the narrow spaces above..going through the narrow tree barriers..so my interest is indeed in the challenge maybe..haha..that's all gordon observations I'm in your video..good afternoon.
Hey Rob, I like all types of music so bear with me 😂 The only piloting skills in this video was trying to get the milliamp hours to match perfectly On both flights. I want to make this as honest as I can so any data I collect will not be challenged as fraud.
Man..I had a Squirt with full ducts..stolen of course..but it sounded like someone threw a bag of cats in a blender when flown.😳.I don't miss it at all and I'm building a apex bluecat as a replacement. It's probably going to be nearly silent in comparison as it's not so much ducted as guarded..I don't think Those ducts are really designed like a proper efflux tube anyway 😉
Hey Steve, yes I remember when your stuff got stolen 🤬 this thing was very loud, so loud I could not even hear the voltage alarm going off when it was flying 10 feet from me. I wish I had done a comparison before I disassembled it, it is so much quieter now. It flies a lot better, doesn’t have buffering like it did moving forward. Now with the weight I removed I will replace it with more battery. I had a goal originally of 10 minutes flight time. It’s a lot to ask for but I’m going to give it a shot. Wish me luck 😁
This is Bruce, Bruce is much smarter than Gordon Scott 😂 He can explain all this much better than I 😉
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Nice sharing 👍
Vídeo muito interessante,imagens muito bonitas,parabéns meu amigo 👏👏👏👍👍👍
Very nice 😎👍
fantastic!! my good brotha! i appreciate yor efforts!! good stuff!!
Thanks Chris😊 I only had two flights recorded before I disassembled it. I took the best One of those two flights for this video comparison. One shows 3869 and the other is 3872, as close as I could humanly get it 😅
@@Gordon-Scott i dig it .
Good test Gordon so pretty much the same🤦♂️ 🤷♂️ Have a blessed Sunday!
In my opinion not that I know anything in a hover or slow flight you will not see a gain in efficiency but mid to full throttle in forward flight there may be an improvement with the ducts. But what do I know 🤦♂️ lol!
Hey Mike. Actually it’s not even close. When you look at the data at the end you will see the one that is without the ducts flew longer than the one with by over a minute. The amp draw difference was about 50%. The faster you move with the ducts it gets worse because of the angle of attack, it’s like stalling a wing. Now if you think I have no idea what I’m talking about you are a head of the others 😂 but if they keep on watching they will learn I’m full of 💩😅
PS you asked me what college my uncle taught at, it was at point Loma San Diego. His name was Gordon Leslie Forward
@@Gordon-Scott lol, good one Gordon as for the two displays at the end of the video I could not read either one lol, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! 😝👍 Clever buddy!
@@mikesrcgarage actually that really was his name 😂 there were three of us Gordon’s, my grandfather my uncle and myself. They started calling me Scott when I was just a baby to lessen the confusion 🥸🤓👦😁 he was brilliant but a little crazy 🤪😇
Awesome testing brother!! Need to lose a little weight myself but I'm to old to change my flight time now.. 🤣 Love these test vids! Thanks for the effort I know it takes time!!
Thanks brother I did the best I could with it. You’ll notice the milliamp hours are almost exact when I land. The fatal flaw in any testing is the human element, take me out of the equation and it would be more accurate but I did the best I could.
I will post the results continuing on but something has surprised me about this next test, I have to do a few more flights and then analyze the data.
your Fall in New England video is very touching..sorry I commented here..that's how I express my opinion..thank you
Thank you friend 🙏 I would love to see some videos of your home where you live 😊 I like where you bring your son to go fishing at his grandmothers house I believe 😊
@@Gordon-Scott Well maybe later when he has school holidays, I will visit there, if it's close it can be done every day, approximately 32km from where I live now, I'm just sorry I can't present shows like your video, hope one day I can take pictures from the air..thank you my friend gordon.
Very nice 👍👍 I have no idea what the difference as I have yet to own one 😬😁
Hey Gene, it’s just a marketing gimmick. They don’t work they never have never will. They are loud and do not fly well, in other words you are not missing anything 😂
@@Gordon-Scott there's 💩💩 to download and use for them from what I understand and I'm not interested in that part as I'm getting along with the stuff (💩) I got right now lol there's esc stuff to work with and other thing's to tweak on them , not for me 😁
Was this a double blind study? I've often wondered about these so called ducts. Being in the HVAC/R world we call these fan cowlings, and they play a very important roll on air flow, but we're not flying equipment, just forcing air thru coils. Without the cowling the captured air can flow around said coils. But we don't deal with prop wash, vortex effect, etc. Rule of thumb is the fan blade sits 1/3 outside the cowling to capture the air. With that said, I always figured the whoop ducts didn't help much if any lmao! Great video and testing Gordon. I learned something today!! 👊😎
Joshua Bardwell always cracked me up with his intro 😁 there is a lot going on here with ducts. The principal is solid, the problem comes when we start to move in any direction. Also the tolerances needed in machining for this to work properly is cost prohibitive.
Air flows faster over a curved surface, Low pressure underneath generates lift. A proper duct shape at the inlet will create the same effect. But when you start moving forward you are changing the angle of attack and go into a stall. they’ve been trying this shit since the 40s and if it worked you would see it on all types of aircraft but you don’t 🤷🏻♂️ it kind of pisses me off, marketing 101.
It kind of reminds me of the marketing of 1950s cars when the tail fin became popular. One manufacturer came up with it and the others had to do it otherwise they would lose sales. These companies know that this doesn’t work, but it sells and makes them money and if they don’t make it their competition will.
@@Gordon-Scott haha reminds of the little rice burners I see with wings on em, anesthetics or holding em down cause they're so fast 🤷♂️😂
BTW you do see it on jet aircraft engines.
@@ILLBEDRONED I am so glad you brought that up! And which way are they facing? And notice the shape is like a wing 🧐 accelerating the air to the blades. Now let’s take that same Engine and turn it vertical 😁
@@Gordon-Scott must be why all the Marine Ospreys don't have ducts lol!! The jet engine attitude does change in flight, but we're back to perfectly machined clearances and engineering. Thanks to Wilbur and Orville for starting this whole concept of flight!! 👊😎
good show friend..why is my view more focused on the video above..
I’m not sure? I usually post in at least 2K but this is analog recorded from the goggles. It was downloaded at a much lower resolution. check your settings to make sure that when you Watch my other videos it is in the highest resolution you can watch. I know sometimes I have to manually change it in settings 🤷🏻♂️🤔
sorry gordon..it wasn't the picture that made me go straight to the video above..everything is good..but my eyes are more interested in the video above..that's what it means..thank you
@@iQcreativeQu oh I understand now 😉👍
yes i also understand now..maybe because the video above is more of a challenge by breaking through the narrow spaces above..going through the narrow tree barriers..so my interest is indeed in the challenge maybe..haha..that's all gordon observations I'm in your video..good afternoon.
The key is piloting skills, but if the music had been rap I'd have hoped for a crash!...
Hey Rob, I like all types of music so bear with me 😂 The only piloting skills in this video was trying to get the milliamp hours to match perfectly On both flights. I want to make this as honest as I can so any data I collect will not be challenged as fraud.
Man..I had a Squirt with full ducts..stolen of course..but it sounded like someone threw a bag of cats in a blender when flown.😳.I don't miss it at all and I'm building a apex bluecat as a replacement. It's probably going to be nearly silent in comparison as it's not so much ducted as guarded..I don't think Those ducts are really designed like a proper efflux tube anyway 😉
Hey Steve, yes I remember when your stuff got stolen 🤬 this thing was very loud, so loud I could not even hear the voltage alarm going off when it was flying 10 feet from me. I wish I had done a comparison before I disassembled it, it is so much quieter now. It flies a lot better, doesn’t have buffering like it did moving forward. Now with the weight I removed I will replace it with more battery. I had a goal originally of 10 minutes flight time. It’s a lot to ask for but I’m going to give it a shot. Wish me luck 😁
@@Gordon-Scott Good Luck..🖖🏼