Understanding Garden Potassium: What it Does, Greensand, Banana Peels & Other Forms - TRG 2014
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- Potassium is a macronutrient and that means it is really essential to have in the garden or you won't have healthy plants. It can be added to your garden in many forms like greensand, rock dust or granite dust, banana peels and even chemically. I review what potassium does, deficiencies, forms and make recommendations for adding it to your garden.
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As a new gardener, I know my plants are talking to me. Unfortunately, I don't speak their language very well. Thanks for the garden-ese tips: leaf color, wilting and others you mentioned. I'm thankful that you said a few times NOT to buy any product with chlorine because that was one of the problems I had. I now water with rain water and rarely buy anything from the garden store.
Cool. I mix shredded maple leaves, used coffee grounds and chopped organic banana peels into my soil in the fall.
perfect explanation! and the banana peels are the best ive found, with the ash a person has to be very careful
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Thank you for this video. Definitely have a better understanding of potassium 👍🏿
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***** I am glad it helped. I think if we can understands the principles it makes gardening more fun a less expensive in the long run.
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As always, I appreciate your info and tips. Knowing some of the science behind gardening is useful.
Thanks. I think the background info can help with decision making.
Highly informative with clear and simple explanation to the point and no gimmicks.
Thanks Gary for your excellent videos.
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Nope. Glad to make them. Just remember Nature and Compost. Broken down organic matter. Done for this way for millions of year. Very low NPK and S Mg and C and all that.
great ideal with banana peels I have been gardening 4 years and have worm farm that does super with in&outdoor plants
+mike rosner I might make a farm one day.
watching your video for the first time.... Gosh so much valuable information to absorb.... and I will be saving a lot of money too from buying inorganic fertiliser... thanks Gary...
Glad to help.
Thanks for the tips on recognizing potassium deficiency.
You are great.your explanation is wonderful.
Glad to share
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Thanks for the great information. I think it would be a good idea to indicate that if you use wood ash it will raise the soil pH.
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Interesting method with the bananas... Thank you.
I've had success using banana peels in my container garden. I've also used avocado peels which have twice as much potassium as bananas😊
We eat a lot of avocados. Lots of peels. I might have to add that to a video. Thanks!
Gary actually what you called inorganic potassium is mainly used for fruit trees and fruit bushes, where a lot is required in spring to produce bumper crops. For example gooseberry plants need a lot of potassium or poor yield would be generated
Thats good to know. Maybe I should try it out on my kiwi vines that havent flowered for 5 years.
Gary Pilarchik The fruit book I use suggest the following for caring of kiwi fruit "mulch generously in spring, and sprinkle a handful of general purpose fertiliser and 1/2 oz of sulphate of potassium over the soil under each plant in April. Pay attention to pruning".
It recommends that Kiwis are best trained as espaliers on horizontal; wires about 12- 18 inches apart. The aim is to create a number of tiers of horizontal stems that will carry fruiting spurs. The vines need to be tied frequently as they grow rapidly, but they must be done after the new shoot has hardened enough not to break when it is bend into position. Tie stems to support, don't allow to twine.
Prune in late winter or early spring, after the risk of sever frosts has passed (there may be some bleeding but this does not harm the plant) and again in summer. The idea is to continually replace shoots that are older than 3 years old. Also Gary you need two Kiwis , one of each sex in close proximity (ideally planted in the same hole).
Problems with cultivation such as small fruit or unripening fruit shows that plant is too cold or receiving too little sun. In that case it becomes a greenhouse crop.
In summer, shorten sublaterals to five leaves beyond the fruit. Cut back any bare, unproductive lengths of growth to five leaves, and any new shoots growing around the fruiting spurs to seven leaves.
In midwinter, prune fruiting shoots to two or three buds beyond the point where the last fruit was borne. On older vines, cut back three year old fruiting shoots to a dormant bud or new shoot at the base.
It could be that your kiwi vine is simply unproductive.
Gary, thank you so much for these videos!
Youre welcome!
This was a very helpful video!! Thank you for taking the time to make it!
Glad to help.
You don’t recommend muriste of potash because it gives off chlorine which can kill soil bacteria. It would seem that you could overcome this by placing the granules into water to dissolve. Chlorinated water can be cleared of chlorine by letting it stand so the chlorine evaporates. That may be an option for dissolves muriste of potash.
I am not that concerned. But your solution sounds sensible
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Great video Gary, I'm glad you're doing this series on nutrients and what they do for our plants.
I would really like to see the results if you decide to do any soil tests on your garden because since it’s doing so well you say I’d like to know if in fact it is a far with what they say you need or if it has more or less ....like maybe you could do three different test across the garden and then just look at the the average of all of them
Im no longer in that garden. But when you feed a garden, you are fertilizing the planting hole, top dressing surface roots, and using water solubles on the plant. It is very different that what you soil tests.
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Thanks Gary! Your tips are always great. Have a great day!
Gary, that was very good information . I like the dried banana method . I already use spent coffee form a local coffee shop
Grind up some eggshells too and you have a nice form of calcium.
Nice video, I am looking forward finding out about all the minerals plants need. Most rock dust doesn't really say exactly what is in it. Plus they have things like arsenic, uranium trace elements that either do nothing or are actually bad.
Ill see if I can found out about the trace elements too. I think it might be hard as there are so many sources.
Must the ashes be from only hardwood? I have a backyard fire pit that we burn all kinds of wood in. Just wondering if it would also help.
Great video. I just compost my banana peels. If I had to dry and grind all the peels of the bananas I eat it would be WAY to much work! I'll let the worms do it for me.
Thanks. Worms are good friend and workers.
Can you run dried nana peels and eggs shells through the coffee grinder, and just make a 'tea' to water your plants??
You can.
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Excellent. I'm impressed.
Thanks!
Hi. I have a newly bought 3 feet orange bird of paradise as a house plant or Strelitzia reginae, what type of phosphorus should i use for it to help it flower?
The only thing you did not mention Gary is that all potassium salts are soluble so can be added as a solid feed around plants or dissolved in water and added via a watering can for a quick boost..
Argh. I had that too and just forgot to mention it. Ill add it in an annotation.
Thank you Gary. Have you ever heard of a montage mix? That is from a nursery down here. My Son made me 6, 4x4 raised bed boxes for Christmas and I think that is what I will get to fill them this year for my first raised bed garden. I live in SC. where the soil is very clayey, don't know if that's a proper way to say it, but where we live used to be cotton fields and it's very hard to grow anything here. Any response would be so appreciated. Again, love your videos and thanks once more
I dont know what that is sorry. For clay though you really want to break it up and add peat moss or other organic matter. The bottom of the raised bed has to be able to drain water or anything you put on top will almost float and be too wet if the base doesnt drain.
Hi Gary, does green banana peels & banana tree stem/trunk/leaves have potassium effect as well? If yes do I need to dried it first like what you did for the banana peels?
Thanks
I dont know. The research I have read has been on peel and fruit. I would suspect because strem, trunk, leaves are structually different, that they would not have as much nutrients.
Brilliant video really full of info thank you! I grow chilli plants so are you saying banana skins would replace buying potash? How much potassium do they contain?
So I don't think they could totally replace it if you have a good number of plants. But if you have plenty of peels, it would. I would say it would decrease the use of potash and also help the soil biology. I use both.
And he started talking about rock dust you change over to phosphorus instead of potassium in any case rock test really has minimal amount of potassium phosphorus OR nitrogen.... It is actually a pretty good fertilizer for micro nutrients and stuff but not so much for potassium or like he said in phosphorus
It is good for microelectronics thats about it an most earth has them.
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As usual your video always contains very valuable information. Thanks for share Gary. Btw, You pointed out about potash contains chlorine isn't good for soil bacteria. So, I am wondering about water from city also contains chlorine. Is that also will kill good bacteria in the soil & have bad effect for plants? What is the solution for home gardeners who don't have water purification for their garden?
The muriate of potash has a higher level. I don't think chlorine in tap water is as problematic. But I do know if you let tap water sit in the sun it gets rid of the chlorine.
Thanks for the clarification Gary. I found a lot of contradictory about this chlorine water, but so far I use it for my garden and they still fine.
Gary Pilarchik Muraic acid is the old fashion name for Hydrochloric acid so muriate of potash to use IUPAC nomenclature would be potassium chloride, which as everybody knows is the substitute for common table salt in food.
Antonio Pachowko You forget you know a lot. Not everyone knows what you know.
Great Videos! Very nice presentation! Thank You So much. Can you please guide me if other peals can be used in this way. Its very difficult to get organic fertilizers in my area.
Jigna Soneji Any organic matter can be comosted in a bin and it will fertilize. The peel is a good one as it has a lot in it and it dries nicely. In theory, you could do this to any peel. Do you have a place to make compost?
I have just very recently started learning gardening... This is my first time I have collected peel from kitchen and kept in a container to compost. I want to learn waste management. Here its difficult to get organic stuff plus there is lot of wastage. That hurts me alot. I don't have outside space. I am in Bahrain, it's very hot these days.
Thank u .. just check a few of my plants in pots .. guess what .. the leafs dead give away
Hey Gary. Love your series. Just wanted to ask your opinion on sul po mag or kmag, source of potassium. Thank you!
Al Johnson I had to look it up. I don't know it well enough to have a comment. Maybe someone else will comment. I would drop your question on one of my G+ garden groups. I think you will get some answers.
Would you recommend Langbeinite ,It’s organic
I actually dont know what it is. Sorry.
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@@THERUSTEDGARDEN Langbeinite is a potassium magnesium sulfate mineral with the chemical formula K₂Mg₂(SO₄)₃. Langbeinite crystallizes in the isometric-tetartoidal system as transparent colorless or white with pale tints of yellow to green and violet crystalline masses. It has a vitreous luster. (Sulfate of potash)
Good detailed explanation covering many bases providing excellent tutelage for all levels i.e You know your shit and pass it on very well man! More Power to You (MPTY)
Thanks. I try and keep it simple and give info so others can make decisions.
Question: I wonder if extra Potassium can help my fig trees have harder wood and possibly more resistant to freezing in winter?
I don't think extra would change it as long as it has a supply to get what it needs. That would be great as I am on the edge of zones and can't grow all fig trees.
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I heard that as long as you keep the roots warm your tree will be just fine during the winter. You can add chicken, cow or horse manure compost to keep it warm. I just dissolve some chicken poop in water and water my tree every 2 or 3 years. Do not do it more often because it will literally burn the tree. The tree will survive the winter, but if it gets freezing burnt, then just prune off that branch and it'll grow just fine. You'll get added benefits too, luscious growth and more fruit.
I saved banana peels a few years ago and as I was saving them before I had enough to bake I noticed some molding starting to set in on the peels. My question is whether or not that is good to still bake and use or if you should discard?
I may be wrong but most fungi is useful for the soil like bacterias. So i don't think those moldy stuff will be a problem for the plants.
Great video!!! Thanks :-)
What are your thoughts on langbeinite. I know it is high % which I just use a pinch. My goal is to stay organic and high soil microbial activity.
MrBlairn3131 That is new to me. What is it used for.
Gary Pilarchik Sulfate of Potash-Magnesia. Percentages are Soluable Potash 22% , Water Soluable Magnesium 10.8%, and Combined Sulfur 22%. 0-0-22. I have just began testing some of your advice on my tomatoes plants infected with Brown leaf spot, and also for blossom end rot. I am also trying baking soda on my concord grape vines to control black rot since nothing else seems to be working.
.....and Wood ash is about four percent potassium, and less than two percent phosphorus, magnesium, aluminum, and sodium. The small amounts of these nutrients is the reason that ash is considered a “low grade” fertilizer. In terms of commercial fertilizer, average wood ash would be about 0-1-3 (N-P-K).
Wood is good but effects soil pH a lot. Best put in compost pile.
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I do use banana peels in my garden (to prevent aphids), but I just got my soil test and potassium is very low (154 instead of 511 recommended). I suspected it, because older leaves do tend to get brown edges. I got a recommendation to put 10 oz of potassium sulfate on 200 square feet by first mixing it with compost or humus for 2 weeks or so, and then adding to the soil. Do you think such a high deficiency can be fixed with more banana peels? Greensand has magnesium and iron, and my garden soil already has too much of these.
I think it would take to long for banana peels. This might be cause to address it as suggested.
Thank u Garry
Yep.
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Is there a time limit on how long you leave the peels in the oven for?
How long does it take for the potassium to be available for plants from greensand
That I dont know but it is a very slow process. I dont think it is really in a usable form.
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Thanks for sharing
Thank you
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Is it true that if the chlorosis starts on the top leaves it is caused by iron deficiency or an inability to uptake iron? Whereas potassium chlorosis starts on bottom leaves, as you mentioned.
You know I dont know. Iron is needed at such low levels, I have never seen it.
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Very helpful
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Thanks for the info👍🏽
Is Gardentone good for vegetables???
Its a good product
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I work in a school where our children have bananas every Thursday, resulting in lots of banana peel. I run our gardening club and decided to make some banana peel tea in a lidded bucket. I just filled the bucket with the banana peel and topped it up with water then left it to break down for a month. The peel was still visible and the solution smelled foul like nettle tea but there was an obvious breakdown of matter. I don't know if this tea will work on our crops but Garry you obviously have a scientific knowledge about the nutrients plants need. Have you ever used this type of 'tea' to fertilize your plants and in your opinion would it work?
I just did a soil test in my garden beds, and my Potassium level is High. How do I reduce the levels of potassium or should I leave it alone? This winter I am growing garlic in the bed that has the high level. Thanks.
Hello. You cant really remove it but by letting plants absorb it. If it is not causing an issue just let it be. If it is an issue you could and more cheap amendments that don't have NPK. Also go to low potassium or no potassium fertilizers for the year. Really depends on what the number you tested means to a garden.
Can you ferment the peels in water for a couple of days? Again what would be the ratio?
+Angely1914 I dont know what a fermentation ration would be but you can put it in a bucket of water and pour it into the base of the plant. There is no exact ratio as you arent dealing with high doses that will burn or damage plants. A couple tablespoons in a gallon is good.
Thank you for answering my questions.
Excellent!!!
Yep
THe green sand is the On thing that sounds reasonable
Expensive though.
Will banana peels that were in the freezer work once dried and crushed or will they lose their potency.
Judy Handschug Theyre good to go.
I think I have used too much sulphate of potash in my tomatoes , any tips ?
Nope. You can do much to remove things. Good luck.
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how often do you have to add potassium ?!
Can I use ash from my hard wood pellets in my compost pile ?
Question: 2-5-3 in terms of percent doesn't make sense. 2% nitro, 5% phos and 3 percent Potassium. Those percentages only add to be 10%. what is the other 90%? I like to think of it as 10 parts total: 2 parts nitro, 5 parts phos and 3 parts Potassium. Could you please explain this? In font of me I have a bloom buster that says 12-55-6 these numbers only add up to be 73. What is the other 27? is it dirt?
Filler. By volume that is the percentages in there. I don't know what the fillers are but you have the percentages right.
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What about weak Stems or when your Tomato plant reigns over
Thats from lack of light if you are talking seeds starts. They get stronger with light. If they are larger outdoor plants, I am not sure. They are vines so they want to crawl.
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“My beds have had so much action in them” 😁😂
Too much love in them.
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Mushrooms are high in potassium. I wonder if soil fungi are to.
Hmmm I don't know
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THANK YOU !!
Glad to help.
Nice!
Our land is made of ancient marine sediment. I’ve probably got plenty of Potassium 😃
The Maryland area? It does run high in K
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Shit i just got the murate one...i guess ill try and take it back.
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What about old avocados?
Gary Pilarchik hi i have a barbados cherry tree for more than 4 years and looks healthy but is not growing fruits and never did,can you help me please?
I dont know enough to help you with a tree. Sorry. Just no experience. Sometimes they need other trees for pollination.
Gary Pilarchik this tree never grow flowers
+Mono Kendo u can call your local ext. office they should be able to help u lots of luck with ur tree
+mike rosner thanks
whats up with them seeds? im a chilihead...
Can I use a 12-4-8 fertilizer?
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I’m not trying to be argumentative or make you look bad or anything I’m just trying to share what I’ve learned as I’ve tried to figure things out as well and trying to help other people by spreading the truth about certain things also as far as bananas I was thinking possibly potatoes or sweet potatoes might make a bigger difference because for some reason everyone always thinks bananas when they think potassium but he does have way more potassium I don’t know though I’m pretty discouraged for my test results the other night( i’m not trying to be argumentative or make you look bad or anything I’m just trying to share what I’ve learned as I’ve tried to figure things out as well and trying to help other people by spreading the truth about certain things also as far as bananas I was thinking possibly potatoes or sweet potatoes might make a bigger difference because for some reason everyone always thinks bananas when they think potassium but potatoes have way more potassium I don’t know though I’m pretty discouraged for my test results the other night see below)
Organic material has to compost down. Compost is less than 1-1-1 NPK and it is the best stuff around. Low and present is all that is needed for compost.
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whilst clay soil can retain/bank application of potassium much longer than sandy soil, it needs double the amount, as clay binds it up a lot.
i've been watching agricultural notes on fertilizing and looks like you need roughly 10:1 of potassium to nitrogen/phosphorous. you dont get that information from home gardening shows and you dont get anywhere near required level by using mixed npk garden fertilizer. best to soil test.
taking vegies and stalks of produce off garden, takes much potassium with it.
we've been duped by home garden fertilizer makers and gardening tv shows to apply fertilizer by observation, which is horrible guessing at best. we end up guessing to fight deficiencies, which are confusing, rather than applying right amount for optimum warm season crop.
can you used the tablets that you buy from the pharmacy for humans
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Imagine... I used to think you could put seeds in the ground and grow plants. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Boy, way I naïve. Thanks for the disenchantment .
You can to start. But with time the use up all the good stuff.
In the FL sand there is no "good stuff" to begin with. It's been a 5 year journey so far, each year filled with disappointment, learning, and excitement. But we've decided to keep it organic. A few times, I though I might add some inorganic fertilizer, but when I went to the store to buy some, the smell made me do a quick about-face.
*If potassium prevents yellowing and if bananas are rich in potassium, why do bananas turn yellow?* 🤔😝
Hmmm...
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So Potassium sulfate is inorganic while Potassium Chloride(Muriate of potash) is "organic"? Who comes up with this nonsense!? And you definately need more than "3" of Potassium if you are growing tomatos for example.
Clearly this guy has never tried to grow a banana plant before.
Nope. Why
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