All she wanted was to be free. Arthas The Horde The Jailer For Sylvanas, there was always someone she had to serve but soon she and everyone will be set free..
It already started before Arthas. She wasn't meant to become Ranger General. Her sister passed that burden to her by refusing the mantle of Ranger General and abandoning everybody, her people, her family, her sisters ...
@@Rylinu Are you a female by any chance? This was so washed it hurts. Sylvannas needs to DIE. No more redemption, she killed alot of people and betrayed even more. Sylvannas MUST DIE
@@Rylinu i agree with every word you said....she is my favorite too and for the parts of hope you said..its all true and those who thinks she is a villain they need to rethink everything... xd
if you are a real loyalist you gonna feel the sorrow in this piece. sylvana's sorrow, the emptyness she feels. and then u can hear the redemption she will get. the redemption wont be fully understood i am sure.
@koulhsgog As a preface...I liked the character of Sylvanas as originally written up until the wrath of the lich king expansion; which is where her character ended and was deleted. Then new writers used the same name to create a different character and pretended to replace Sylvanas with somebody else. After that....there is no excuse for the replacement Sylvanas. There is no redemption for the replacement Sylvanas. It is absolutely and undeniably not possible to make the new Sylvanas' actions appropriate. It doesn't matter if she kills the Jailor. It doesn't matter if she frees the Val'kyr who bonded to her. It doesn't matter if she opens the Maw and releases all the souls. It doesn't matter what they do with new Sylvanas....it will not excuse the behavior and actions that new Sylvanas took from Cataclysm through mists through wod through Legion through BfA through Shadowlands. The new Sylvanas is worthless and contradictory and inconsistent and ridiculous.
@@laertesindeed and your opinion too doesn't matter dude. Sylvanas was just suffering until wrath. I don't know what u liked about her. She was ltrly a tragic character since then she has become one of the most complicated characters in the game. U people hating on her can't see the big picture. Even if she ends up bad I will be a loyalist. All she ever wanted was to be free u see.
@@ig7742 You have an incredibly ignorant and obvious problem with the definition of loyalty. You also have a problem with the ontology of a person compared to anomalies in their personality. If you have a friend that suddenly develops a brain tumor which manifests as an artificial depression and a compulsion to stab anything in front of them.....being "loyal" to your friend does not mean you have to pretend the depression is a good thing nor do you make excuses for why stabbing things in front of them is the right thing to do. If you were genuinely "loyal" to your friend you would readily admit to the fact the depression is a problem and a contradiction to their true personality and that it is a mental health problem which must be opposed and struggled against. If you valued your friend....allowing them to keep stabbing things in front of them would be an absolute betrayal of your real friend and their value as a person. You are not loyal to Sylvanas Windrunner, you are loyal to evil that has destroyed and replaced Sylvanas Windrunner. You hate Sylvanas Windrunner, you betray Sylvanas Windrunner.
well whatever sylvanas does for me she still the undead hero with dark arrow to rais the dead. iloved her back in war3 as a hero and that will never change.
Little sad to be thinking of how much Sylvanas has been built upon. That her life has been enslaved and all she wanted was freedom. Her story line is one of the few that a lot of people will remember for sure.
People don't seem to get that and say she did horrible things. Yes but also she is trapped in what she consider eternal torment being forced to live when all she want it the peace of death (true death) and it is denied from her. I personally get why she might be acting the way that she is.
This soundtrack have such a cool vibe , in one case it's sad , but on the other it's told you there is no hope is lost , and still a lot to move forward, maybe one of best what happens in Shadowlands expansion
@Shadow Collective you might see change when sylvanas's arrow goes through your broken heart. just saying, what if your faith in sylvanas is misplaced?
@Shadow Collective i remember the time when she employed a certain demon and soon to be traitorous grand apothecary and couldn't keep them under control
No matter how good or bad an expansion turns out to be you can be guaranteed there's always a piece of music in every expansion that completely blows me away, and that piece begins at 9:55. I have this up there with the pre pull music for Illidan in Black Temple.
that victory music at 10:35 isn't promising to those who want Sylvanas dead as a raid boss, I love it. can't wait to see your faces when Sylvanas pull the Kerrigan card XD, for the dark lady ^^
@@kseniafedosova9169 It's not what I hope for the most but all point in this direction. What I hope is that she becomes the leader of a 3rd faction after shadowlands
I think the same. Bad part is known as Banshee Queen, while Ranger-General of Silvermoon and Middle Luna or what that nick was, is still at Shadowlands all that time.
Alright, since people are discussing their ideas, here's my theory for Sylvanas going into Shadowlands. She'll succeed in breaking the wheel of the Shadowlands. All she wanted in her Undeath (pre-cata) was to be free. Then she learned she would never be free, even in death. It doesn't matter if your soul goes to the Maw or joins a covenant, there's always another master to serve. So she'll succeed in breaking this system (I'm leaving this vague, cause who knows to what extent or how) giving the souls of the dead true freedom, but we will also have our chance to kill her. Whether or not what she's doing is a "good" goal is irrelevant, and she will be made to answer for her crimes. Just... not until after she's "won."
Ye. That's the best case scenario if they wanne appease majority of the playerbase. I dont mind her winning, and defeating the jailer or whatever as long as Tyrande or anyone gets to axe her soon after. I dont trust the trial system in wow since garrosh escaped. Though I love meh boi Garrosh and believe he did nothing wrong and thats a discussion in of itself, I'm really worried if they kerriganafy sylvanas.
You know what? I found some fanfic before 2010 that some Apothecarians planned to create so-called Deadbornes - artificial Forsaken made from special bodies and halfs of souls. And Sylvanas had daughter with Nathanos by that. Stupid, right?
I'm loving the two camps in these comments. It really tells you who understood Sylvanas's earlier characterization and who didn't. Still, BFA has not made me hopeful.
Those who played the classic trilogy should know Sylvanas was always evil, but that she at least cared about her own people and free will of the undead.
@@alejandroderienosa4828 killed saurfang bc of his betrayal to the warchief burned teldrassil to declare war against the titans and elune just to give is free will all she did was justified
@@TheHeartlessFour its actually my own thinking bc why burn teldrassil bc a randon nelf taunted her she rly needed to prove a point there which is elune will not save the nelves and she did not she just plays with mortals for her own projects also in the latest book its written'' Sylvanas has been a play thing of a rightious cosmos long enough'' so actually sylvanas wants a free will from all theses cosmological forces.
Thats obvious. Doesnt change the fact she needs to be axed. Arathi, Teldrassil, Lorderon, Proudmoores and Baines Torture, Thralls assassination attempt, the abduction and torment of key figures in the Maw. Either one of those deserves a tormented sentence to be tortured in the Maw. As much as a fan of Arthas I am, his redemption wouldn't have been as enticing an idea if he didn't pay for his pride and actions. Though while he had somewhat of an excuse, no amount of excuses should be able to save sylvanas from being tormented for her crimes for a few eons. Edit: Also there's the draught in ardenwield effecting old gods and loa alike.
@Shadow Collective burning a city full of innocent civilians, killing her own people because they wanted to be with their family, sending assassins to kill a family that isn't even involved in the war...
@Shadow Collective arathi- innocent civilians wanting to reunite with their families as well as her loyalists. Thats enough justification. Teldrassil- innocent bystanders and children and ecologists and the like, burned. They were qt peace during that time and had a ceasefire. Ye.... plus using plague itself. Ofc Simps like you would defend her if she stripped your flesh and fed on your fingers for the greater good. So its no point talking sense with deranged fanatics.
why would she want to replace him? At this point she most likely wants to be able to rest in peace, which is an option that has been refused to her. First people said that she wanted to replace Bolvar as the Lich King now this?
@@user-ve4gr4jd7s, still we don't know what game she plays. But if my theories are true than there's that way: souls killed by Scourge are divided into two. One part goes in death to the Shadowlands, while the second part remained undead or becoming trapped as a ghost in runeblade and if they will die in Azeroth than they go into the Maw. So Sylvanas, like Arthas, Uther, Antonidas and who knows what else... they are divided on two halfs - good half of soul and the bad one.
@MoonH I think it possible you are misinterpreting the title of this music track. It does not say the free will "of" sylvanas. It does not say free will "for" sylvanas. For all we know....this could just be the music played because Sylvanas is constantly trying to challenge and defeat the Free Will of one or more people captured in the Maw for her master. A little bit of spoilers...from the shadowlands beta so far we know that Thrall and Jaina eventually get saved by us from where we left off at the intro scenario for shadowlands. But not Anduin. So it is entirely possible that she spends all her time while we are leveling up.... torturing and taunting Anduin trying to get him to abandon his free will. And since Anduin has been primed to learn all the tough lessons from cataclysm to pandaria to his vanguard in wod to his depression and catharsis and resolve in legion...to his ineptitude and groveling in BfA..... it is entirely possible that he resists that torture and taunting. As for Sylvanas... there is no redemption for her. Nothing she does will excuse or explain the bad writing for her since cataclysm until now.
I feel like the name of this song has something to do with story, and i think it is big prove that Sylvanas isnt evil. She just wana us to be free from will of gods and powers like light, void, panteon, old gods, wild.... When she died, she went right to the Maw where she find out that nothing we do in our life realy matter. We will become pawns and fuel after death. She wana just to be free, and she wana her people to be free
She is evil. No good intentions can justify dooming countless millions first to painful death and then eternal torture in the Maw. She can, however, be sympathetic.
I have a stupid idea, but maybe... No, it's impossible and idiotic. Because once I thought that Elune isn't just that moon up there. Elune IS Sylvanas. Now I know it's impossible.
Did I, Blizzard veteran and Undead Warlock, said something about that Sylvanas is not a villain but rather anti-villain? And she's more closer to Alarak and Kerrigan in one person? Now you see. Sorry, bros. Blizzard fan since my birthdays. :D
@@principetnomusic, u will never understand truly loyal to the Horde. This so-called Council are just turncoats. We need Warchief. Remember Alliance internment camps. I'll never go into place like that. For the Dark Lady!
@@arcturuslwowski3056 Aren't you Forsaken? In other words, Lordaeronian? Weren't you the ones putting orcs into internment camps after the Second War? The Horde let the Forsaken in because the Horde accepts everyone, but giving them power was the worst mistake Vol'jin has ever made. Orcs and trolls did not fight for their freedom to become servants to humans and elves again.
@@arcturuslwowski3056 Point is, most Forsaken were at some point subjects of the Kingdom of Lordaeron, the same kingdom which proposed the internment camps to begin with.
@Sylvos Salazar In the first afterlives we see arthas' soul be thrown in the Maw. I watch lots of lore channels and speculation channels and none have brought that up. It's not hinted at at all, and Arthas' soul being in the maw debunks it anyway.
@Sylvos Salazar Garrosh is in Revendreth but also isn't datamined yet. A tonne of big lore characters are in the different zones but haven't been/won't be found in the actual zones because they're not important to the story rn. The Valkyr worked for the Jailer, because the helm of Domination was part of the jailers power. I don't think Arthas will be in sylvanas' body, I'm unsure if that'd be good story telling. We'll have to wait and see. TL;DR it's not because he hasn't been found yet that he's not there
@Sylvos Salazar it does make sense, but there are a few plot holes with this: 1- why didnt sylvanas (Arthas) kill vereesa and alleria in three sisters comic? 2- why did sylvanas (Arthas) do the valkyr ritual for nathanos? it was hinted that she did it because she loved him. Also only sylvanas would know about nathanos's cousin since that was before she died in the third war UNLESS Arthas also inherited her memories. 3- In the Shadowlands cinematic, Sylvanas is shown to be very skilled with the bow. I dont know how it could be Arthas since he does not use a bow. 4- Why would Arthas decide to burn Teldrassil specifically? if its to send souls to the shadowlands then any city would do, why specifically Teldrassil? and why exactly when Delarynn was dying that he decided to do that since originally it was only going to be captured. overall i really like this theory and it kinda does make sense if not for those plot holes. Tbh it looks like blizz just thought about it xD
You know it's make sense? Remember that she was against Scourge and their methods until Icecrown suicide. There she was resurrected by val'kyrs, whose are similar to Mawsworn Kyrians. It's not an accident, I think.
I know this whole let the sould be free concept will be explained in greater detail. But we know this whole breaking the cycle nonsense is coming from sylvanas's twisted perspective in things right?
Can you feel it, my Warchief, closing in all around you? The Light's justice has been awakened. The sins of the past have finally caught up to you. You will be called to account for all the atrocities you've committed, the unspeakable horrors you've let loose upon this world, and the dark, ancient powers you've enslaved. Though the people of Teldrassil were among of the first to be devoured by your evil, there are thousands more you consigned to the Maw, and they cry out for release. Look now to your defenses, my Warchief, for the champions of justice gather at your gates!
@@121WoWfreak I mean, they redeemed Kerrigan by claiming she wasn't in control of herself when she committed atrocities, and then made her a literal god. It wouldn't surprise me if they attempt something similar with Sylvanas.
@@moonrazor2039 idiots are those simps who would let her chop their limbs, burn their kids alive and gouge out the eyes of their parents if it means that shes doing it to save their local Starbucks from closing down.
There is nothing for Sylvanas but death. Nothing can defend her actions. I can't wait to finally kill her off and never see her plot-armored ass again. Vitriol aside, the music is very good! What I have heard from Shadowlands music, and played in the Beta, I am intrigued and interested to see where the story goes, but if it ends with anything else than Sylvanas' death, it's going to be the worst expansion of them all.
what is up with all the sylvanas fanatics here? do they really think that sylvanas gives a damn about them? edit: also there's the fact that she abandoned most of the forsaken, with only a few like nathanos still at her side, with nathanos acting like a jerk towards you ''horde sylvanas loyalists:''ultimately abandoned and discarded by sylvanas as despite their loyalty, the banshee queen had no intention of saving loyalist adventurers from what was to come''
@@gonzalonavarro9584 its probably just a lie to her loyalists to keep their hopes up as she sees no more use for them. in reality, only people like nathanos or sira are still with her
This sounds so muted for the dark lady. I expect her theme to be similar to "Lament of the Highborne." This just sounds generic. How does this represent Sylvanas?
i disagree it sounds tragic and somber like a fleeting soul looking for peace and lashing out and sometimes even slightly hopeful. Seems pretty fitting.
Heart of the Nexus if this represents Sylvanas then it maybe should incorporate some of her past themes. I don’t expect Sylvanas to sound so somber and defeated. I expect our Dark Lady to rage against death and darkness. Her music should be less melancholic and muted. She’s our Banshee Queen and the music should wail against our ears and haunt our souls. This doesn’t sound like a song I expect to be associated with her, but I suppose it’s somber.
Escalusia I do know the themes of Sylvanas, but we can’t just agree to whatever music they put out there then say, “That’s Sylvanas.” Her music should go from soft to loud to angry than somber representing the grief and hatred that defines her. She’s a broken woman who I don’t define by just a somber soft tone, but I suppose we each are entitled to our opinions.
I cannot wait for the cinematic where Sylvanas thinks she just killed tyrande after a well place arrow only for her to be obliterated to nothingness by Elune raw power channeling through tyrande with a first glimpse of what Elune actually looks like.
mistakely read "Sylvanas Free Wifi"
mistakely read "Sylvanas Free Wii" :D
she's here to set us all free from internet service providers
@MR.C&A Video911Game I'm on it, baby.
"And I ! Will give you all... Free Wifi."
This is so melancholy. It's beautiful.
All she wanted was to be free.
Arthas
The Horde
The Jailer
For Sylvanas, there was always someone she had to serve but soon she and everyone will be set free..
My life for the Dark Lady!
I wish she set the real word free too...
It already started before Arthas. She wasn't meant to become Ranger General. Her sister passed that burden to her by refusing the mantle of Ranger General and abandoning everybody, her people, her family, her sisters ...
@@Rylinu Are you a female by any chance?
This was so washed it hurts.
Sylvannas needs to DIE.
No more redemption, she killed alot of people and betrayed even more.
Sylvannas
MUST
DIE
@@Rylinu i agree with every word you said....she is my favorite too and for the parts of hope you said..its all true and those who thinks she is a villain they need to rethink everything... xd
me listening to this on pc: haa, what are you people complaining about? no ads here!!
me listening to this on mobile: this world is a prison
Beautiful piece.
Sylvanas is the best
i agree with you
I serve the Banshee Queen!
I serve only true Warchief of the Horde!
@@arcturuslwowski3056 MY TRUE WARCHIEF IS THE PRIDE OF THE TRUE HORDE GARROSHY
if you are a real loyalist you gonna feel the sorrow in this piece. sylvana's sorrow, the emptyness she feels. and then u can hear the redemption she will get. the redemption wont be fully understood i am sure.
the only redemption sylvanas deserves is getting killed countless times as a dungeon boss or world quest mob, nothing more.
@koulhsgog As a preface...I liked the character of Sylvanas as originally written up until the wrath of the lich king expansion; which is where her character ended and was deleted. Then new writers used the same name to create a different character and pretended to replace Sylvanas with somebody else. After that....there is no excuse for the replacement Sylvanas. There is no redemption for the replacement Sylvanas. It is absolutely and undeniably not possible to make the new Sylvanas' actions appropriate. It doesn't matter if she kills the Jailor. It doesn't matter if she frees the Val'kyr who bonded to her. It doesn't matter if she opens the Maw and releases all the souls. It doesn't matter what they do with new Sylvanas....it will not excuse the behavior and actions that new Sylvanas took from Cataclysm through mists through wod through Legion through BfA through Shadowlands. The new Sylvanas is worthless and contradictory and inconsistent and ridiculous.
@@ogge9296 I mean, if u are not a loyalist get out of her theme video. Get a life
@@laertesindeed and your opinion too doesn't matter dude. Sylvanas was just suffering until wrath. I don't know what u liked about her. She was ltrly a tragic character since then she has become one of the most complicated characters in the game. U people hating on her can't see the big picture. Even if she ends up bad I will be a loyalist. All she ever wanted was to be free u see.
@@ig7742 You have an incredibly ignorant and obvious problem with the definition of loyalty. You also have a problem with the ontology of a person compared to anomalies in their personality. If you have a friend that suddenly develops a brain tumor which manifests as an artificial depression and a compulsion to stab anything in front of them.....being "loyal" to your friend does not mean you have to pretend the depression is a good thing nor do you make excuses for why stabbing things in front of them is the right thing to do. If you were genuinely "loyal" to your friend you would readily admit to the fact the depression is a problem and a contradiction to their true personality and that it is a mental health problem which must be opposed and struggled against. If you valued your friend....allowing them to keep stabbing things in front of them would be an absolute betrayal of your real friend and their value as a person. You are not loyal to Sylvanas Windrunner, you are loyal to evil that has destroyed and replaced Sylvanas Windrunner. You hate Sylvanas Windrunner, you betray Sylvanas Windrunner.
The deep strings giving me Sunstrider Isle vibezzz
ads on music, nice.
Ads on someone else's music, nicer.
ads on block, nicer.
@@deployed246 Ads added by Blizzard, not Wowhead, nice.
@@NoName1462 moron
YT Premium is nice.
Sylvanas best. Hope she sets us all free.
За Темную Госпожу! *Всегда.*
For the Dark Lady! *Always.*
@@kairos270 ¡Por la dama oscura! ¡SIEMPRE! Glory to our QUEEN!
Bash'a no falor talah!
My fabourite quote from Warcraft.
well whatever sylvanas does for me she still the undead hero with dark arrow to rais the dead. iloved her back in war3 as a hero and that will never change.
Lament of the Highborn at 1:45
nice one, didn't even notice
Sylvanas isn't Garrosh 2.0.
She's Illidan 2.0.
You'll see... She'll save us all.
She's Kerrigan.
Let me tell you something, a *anti-hero* only works when the "anti" part doesn't go over the edge. Sylvanas passed that edge in Cataclysm.
@@AsprosOfAzeroth no.
@@Queltomen no? lol then go to the north of Hillsbrad Foothills and see the Auschwitz extermination camps she has there
I still have faith in the Dark Queen, she is going after the one who started this all, the one that gave Arthas the power.
Little sad to be thinking of how much Sylvanas has been built upon. That her life has been enslaved and all she wanted was freedom. Her story line is one of the few that a lot of people will remember for sure.
Same thoughts, it's My favorite character
People don't seem to get that and say she did horrible things. Yes but also she is trapped in what she consider eternal torment being forced to live when all she want it the peace of death (true death) and it is denied from her. I personally get why she might be acting the way that she is.
This soundtrack have such a cool vibe , in one case it's sad , but on the other it's told you there is no hope is lost , and still a lot to move forward, maybe one of best what happens in Shadowlands expansion
Victory for Sylvanas! 💀
I am Forsaken!
@@arcturuslwowski3056 be quick about your business💀
@@MrBru08 Dark lady watch over you
“For the Dark Lady. Always.” - Banshee Loyalist
Aka people with brain damage
@Shadow Collective you might see change when sylvanas's arrow goes through your broken heart. just saying, what if your faith in sylvanas is misplaced?
@Shadow Collective key word ''was''
@Shadow Collective if your still looking for a chance with her, nathanos has already taken that spot
@Shadow Collective i remember the time when she employed a certain demon and soon to be traitorous grand apothecary and couldn't keep them under control
I'm in love with this piece, it's amazing
Ooooh, can hear a bit of the forsaken darkshore theme in there.
Hands down one of the best themes in BFA, glad they decided to build upon it
Yeah, Teldrassil burned well. XD
my queeeeeen
Free Will? I guess we really are going to the Upside Down after all
Sylvanas is going to be Kerrigan'd isn't she?
Absolutely.
I thought that since Bfa plot twist
She better not be.
I hope so.
Well, Illidan was gonna be Kerrigan'd in Legion, but fan backlash stopped that.
Seems like noone cares for Sylvanas, so she surely will be.
8:48 oh my goodness!
No matter how good or bad an expansion turns out to be you can be guaranteed there's always a piece of music in every expansion that completely blows me away, and that piece begins at 9:55. I have this up there with the pre pull music for Illidan in Black Temple.
Sylvanas has a plan.
She just needs money. And it involves a train.
If it fails, i heard Tahiti is nice.
just have some god damn FAITH
May she stand unshaken because that's the way it is.
@@DeineZehnMinutenHook We make a lotta anima, make some Noise, and we'll be harvesting mangoes in Pandaria!
HAVE SOME GODDAMN FAITH, SAURFANG!
She have always a plan. A good ones. XD
that victory music at 10:35 isn't promising to those who want Sylvanas dead as a raid boss, I love it. can't wait to see your faces when Sylvanas pull the Kerrigan card XD, for the dark lady ^^
What did kerrigan do? I'm not familliar with the other franchises.
@@scream1327 She won
I'm crying. I know Sylvanas is all we have
Sylvanas will free us all and save us make you guys feel bad for not trusting her
yeah no
I still won't trust her. I really don't care about her story either way because I'm sick of it at this point.
Sylvanas is Alarak in World of Warcraft. And Forsaken are Tal'darim in Warcraft.
Spoilers alert : Magnificent music of when she finds their half of her soul and becomes one. Very touching moment.
(as a non-player) are you foreshadowing or this is a plot twist?
@@kseniafedosova9169 It's not what I hope for the most but all point in this direction. What I hope is that she becomes the leader of a 3rd faction after shadowlands
@@carldubois9615 i dont play the game but i swear if there will be a new faction under sylvanas i am going full in game
I think the same. Bad part is known as Banshee Queen, while Ranger-General of Silvermoon and Middle Luna or what that nick was, is still at Shadowlands all that time.
Lol you were right
Alright, since people are discussing their ideas, here's my theory for Sylvanas going into Shadowlands.
She'll succeed in breaking the wheel of the Shadowlands. All she wanted in her Undeath (pre-cata) was to be free. Then she learned she would never be free, even in death. It doesn't matter if your soul goes to the Maw or joins a covenant, there's always another master to serve.
So she'll succeed in breaking this system (I'm leaving this vague, cause who knows to what extent or how) giving the souls of the dead true freedom, but we will also have our chance to kill her. Whether or not what she's doing is a "good" goal is irrelevant, and she will be made to answer for her crimes. Just... not until after she's "won."
Ye. That's the best case scenario if they wanne appease majority of the playerbase. I dont mind her winning, and defeating the jailer or whatever as long as Tyrande or anyone gets to axe her soon after. I dont trust the trial system in wow since garrosh escaped. Though I love meh boi Garrosh and believe he did nothing wrong and thats a discussion in of itself, I'm really worried if they kerriganafy sylvanas.
I hope it will be Tyrande who gets axed.
@BadBoy Coolio After all her warcrimes there is no way Sylvanas is redeemable.
@@HardCR0W Yep, as if Proudmoore's Blood Elf massacre is redeemable.
@BadBoy Coolio she's gone nuts? She wants vengeance for the genocide of her people, everything she has done is justified.
beautiful
love it
I can’t wait for mom to set us all free
at first I thought "what a stupid phrasing and comment... then I thought about it. I guess she is kinda like the forsaken's mother, in a way...
@@silviafox78 Always has been
@@darkeather2 - awww shiet ya got meh! *dies*
You know what? I found some fanfic before 2010 that some Apothecarians planned to create so-called Deadbornes - artificial Forsaken made from special bodies and halfs of souls. And Sylvanas had daughter with Nathanos by that. Stupid, right?
this and the 'new player experience human' are very good.
I'm loving the two camps in these comments. It really tells you who understood Sylvanas's earlier characterization and who didn't. Still, BFA has not made me hopeful.
And what do you think about all of this, living friend?
I think I'm going to have to wait and see which camp Blizzard falls into.
Those who played the classic trilogy should know Sylvanas was always evil, but that she at least cared about her own people and free will of the undead.
@@PendlayRoe Yo I wrote this when I still had hope for WoW writing please let me mourn in peace
sylvanas will free us all
As long as she pays for her warcrimes soon after by getting axed in the maw or whatever. She did too many shirty things to be forgiven so easily.
@@alejandroderienosa4828 killed saurfang bc of his betrayal to the warchief burned teldrassil to declare war against the titans and elune just to give is free will all she did was justified
@@alejandroderienosa4828 Grow up
otaku 28 You know this for sure? Or are you just parroting a Sylvanas fanboy UA-cam theory crafter?
@@TheHeartlessFour its actually my own thinking bc why burn teldrassil bc a randon nelf taunted her she rly needed to prove a point there
which is elune will not save the nelves and she did not she just plays with mortals for her own projects
also in the latest book its written'' Sylvanas has been a play thing of a rightious cosmos long enough''
so actually sylvanas wants a free will from all theses cosmological forces.
This confirmed that Sylvanas has a plan!
Like from the Legion some knew that already. Helya meeting with Sylvanas?
Thats obvious. Doesnt change the fact she needs to be axed. Arathi, Teldrassil, Lorderon, Proudmoores and Baines Torture, Thralls assassination attempt, the abduction and torment of key figures in the Maw. Either one of those deserves a tormented sentence to be tortured in the Maw. As much as a fan of Arthas I am, his redemption wouldn't have been as enticing an idea if he didn't pay for his pride and actions. Though while he had somewhat of an excuse, no amount of excuses should be able to save sylvanas from being tormented for her crimes for a few eons.
Edit: Also there's the draught in ardenwield effecting old gods and loa alike.
@@alejandroderienosa4828 What crimes, nothing really dies on Azeroth.
@Shadow Collective burning a city full of innocent civilians, killing her own people because they wanted to be with their family, sending assassins to kill a family that isn't even involved in the war...
@Shadow Collective arathi- innocent civilians wanting to reunite with their families as well as her loyalists. Thats enough justification. Teldrassil- innocent bystanders and children and ecologists and the like, burned. They were qt peace during that time and had a ceasefire. Ye.... plus using plague itself. Ofc Simps like you would defend her if she stripped your flesh and fed on your fingers for the greater good. So its no point talking sense with deranged fanatics.
Lemme guess she is gonna betray Jailer and try to take his place..
I suppose this will happen, but also with Anduin as a new Arbiter. Let's hope this one could not happened. Although...
Arcturus Lwowski ahaha agreed 👌😂
why would she want to replace him? At this point she most likely wants to be able to rest in peace, which is an option that has been refused to her. First people said that she wanted to replace Bolvar as the Lich King now this?
@@user-ve4gr4jd7s, still we don't know what game she plays. But if my theories are true than there's that way: souls killed by Scourge are divided into two. One part goes in death to the Shadowlands, while the second part remained undead or becoming trapped as a ghost in runeblade and if they will die in Azeroth than they go into the Maw.
So Sylvanas, like Arthas, Uther, Antonidas and who knows what else... they are divided on two halfs - good half of soul and the bad one.
@MoonH I think it possible you are misinterpreting the title of this music track. It does not say the free will "of" sylvanas. It does not say free will "for" sylvanas. For all we know....this could just be the music played because Sylvanas is constantly trying to challenge and defeat the Free Will of one or more people captured in the Maw for her master. A little bit of spoilers...from the shadowlands beta so far we know that Thrall and Jaina eventually get saved by us from where we left off at the intro scenario for shadowlands. But not Anduin. So it is entirely possible that she spends all her time while we are leveling up.... torturing and taunting Anduin trying to get him to abandon his free will. And since Anduin has been primed to learn all the tough lessons from cataclysm to pandaria to his vanguard in wod to his depression and catharsis and resolve in legion...to his ineptitude and groveling in BfA..... it is entirely possible that he resists that torture and taunting.
As for Sylvanas... there is no redemption for her. Nothing she does will excuse or explain the bad writing for her since cataclysm until now.
I want to like this video so bad, but the ads during music should be made illegal
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Imagine not using uBlock Origin. Coupled with SponsorBlock, you can enjoy youtube as it were like 5 years ago.
Just skip to the end and then push replay it'll play it without ads I mean this is pretty common knowledge now
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Sylvanas did nothing wrong vibes
sometimes you gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette. sorry night elf fans but you're the eggs.
I will shell you dont test me
sometimes the characters you simp for doesnt survive an expansion, sorry simps
oh sweaty you think they're actually going to kill her off for yall. bless u.
Mavielor That’s what you guys said last expansion. 🤦♂️
Yeah. Teldrassil burned well! XD
MAH QUEEEEEENN!1
As much as I liked her, she needs to be axed whatever the case this expac. Maybe after she finishes thwarting the jailer.
@@alejandroderienosa4828 Grow up
@@LilianOrchard no
I feel like the name of this song has something to do with story, and i think it is big prove that Sylvanas isnt evil. She just wana us to be free from will of gods and powers like light, void, panteon, old gods, wild.... When she died, she went right to the Maw where she find out that nothing we do in our life realy matter. We will become pawns and fuel after death. She wana just to be free, and she wana her people to be free
Make sense. According to Blizzard main resource and money is known as Anima - energy drained from souls whose are dead at Azeroth.
She is evil. No good intentions can justify dooming countless millions first to painful death and then eternal torture in the Maw. She can, however, be sympathetic.
This reminds me of the Daenarys going crazy
She will fight for us to know that even in death we are going to suffer and Elune never cared for us she will break the cycle
I have a stupid idea, but maybe... No, it's impossible and idiotic.
Because once I thought that Elune isn't just that moon up there. Elune IS Sylvanas. Now I know it's impossible.
@@arcturuslwowski3056 Omagaaa Elune Windrunner hahaha
@@kenjisylvano7763, stupid, isn't it, mon?
@@arcturuslwowski3056 Sure is stupid mon
@@crysosisback7115, thanks. If Blizz made that real, then I'm afraid about their future.
I like it
2:44 Kiro Song/Vulpera Theme?
I can hear parts of the vulpera theme between 4:50 and 5:15
sylvanas has replaced her dark rangers with vulpera dks
Did I, Blizzard veteran and Undead Warlock, said something about that Sylvanas is not a villain but rather anti-villain? And she's more closer to Alarak and Kerrigan in one person? Now you see.
Sorry, bros. Blizzard fan since my birthdays. :D
It will be a massive disappointment if she does turn out to be good. She has gone past the point of redemption to me.
@@principetnomusic, u will never understand truly loyal to the Horde. This so-called Council are just turncoats. We need Warchief. Remember Alliance internment camps. I'll never go into place like that.
For the Dark Lady!
@@arcturuslwowski3056 Aren't you Forsaken? In other words, Lordaeronian? Weren't you the ones putting orcs into internment camps after the Second War?
The Horde let the Forsaken in because the Horde accepts everyone, but giving them power was the worst mistake Vol'jin has ever made. Orcs and trolls did not fight for their freedom to become servants to humans and elves again.
There's a little difference between Alliance of Lordaeron and Great Alliance, aka Old and New Alliance. Like akso in case of da Horde.
@@arcturuslwowski3056 Point is, most Forsaken were at some point subjects of the Kingdom of Lordaeron, the same kingdom which proposed the internment camps to begin with.
This is kinda spoiler.. so Sylvanas has a plan by herself
@Sylvos Salazar What theory? Source?
@Sylvos Salazar In the first afterlives we see arthas' soul be thrown in the Maw. I watch lots of lore channels and speculation channels and none have brought that up. It's not hinted at at all, and Arthas' soul being in the maw debunks it anyway.
@Sylvos Salazar Garrosh is in Revendreth but also isn't datamined yet. A tonne of big lore characters are in the different zones but haven't been/won't be found in the actual zones because they're not important to the story rn. The Valkyr worked for the Jailer, because the helm of Domination was part of the jailers power. I don't think Arthas will be in sylvanas' body, I'm unsure if that'd be good story telling. We'll have to wait and see.
TL;DR it's not because he hasn't been found yet that he's not there
@Sylvos Salazar it does make sense, but there are a few plot holes with this:
1- why didnt sylvanas (Arthas) kill vereesa and alleria in three sisters comic?
2- why did sylvanas (Arthas) do the valkyr ritual for nathanos? it was hinted that she did it because she loved him. Also only sylvanas would know about nathanos's cousin since that was before she died in the third war UNLESS Arthas also inherited her memories.
3- In the Shadowlands cinematic, Sylvanas is shown to be very skilled with the bow. I dont know how it could be Arthas since he does not use a bow.
4- Why would Arthas decide to burn Teldrassil specifically? if its to send souls to the shadowlands then any city would do, why specifically Teldrassil? and why exactly when Delarynn was dying that he decided to do that since originally it was only going to be captured.
overall i really like this theory and it kinda does make sense if not for those plot holes. Tbh it looks like blizz just thought about it xD
I hope the login screen will be dynamic like Sindragosa and Deathwing were in Wrath and Cata.
Please Blizzard!
Blizzard : Sylvanas will dance Britney Spears’ Toxic in login screen
lol it isnt.. they already revealed th elogin screen and music its poste dby wowhead it was psoted like 5 hrs ago ITS A HUGE DISSAPOINTMENT
No 3D animations again T.T
For a second there... I imagined Rush's Freewill.
What are you planning Sylvanas?
She's planning how to rescue Azeroth from something far more dangerous than Void Lord.
@@arcturuslwowski3056 from Kerrigan?
@@kseniafedosova9169, nope.
Kinda creepy soundtrack , i love it
Victory for the Forsaken
Dark Lady watch over us, brother! :D
Yep, Art and Music were always superb in WoW. But the game itself... Lets hope for the best.
hold up, if frostmourne split uthers soul in half... its just a guess...
Thinkin' the same way. :)
What if Sylvanas was never actually free from the Lich King all this time?
hm she is the one who destroyed the lich king helm
You know it's make sense? Remember that she was against Scourge and their methods until Icecrown suicide. There she was resurrected by val'kyrs, whose are similar to Mawsworn Kyrians. It's not an accident, I think.
That's the distinct vibe I'm getting from this track.
"Oh, we're using made-up names"
SEEEE everything sylvanas is doing is for the greater good, she is doing this so we have free will in the afterlife.
Trump supporters be like
Thats all fine and dandy as long as we get to qxe her after she succeeds.
@@alejandroderienosa4828 the way you reply your same retorts to all comments here is hilarious. I pity you
@@alejandroderienosa4828 keep dreaming
@@alejandroderienosa4828 weird way so spell kiss
We will see the truth.
For the Banshee Queen!
sylvanas is to wow as the monolith is to 2001 a space odyssey
Not to pull credit from Blizzards amazing music team but this sounds heavily inspired from Game of Thrones.
This song takes most of it's soundtrack from the Undead starting zones, the Horde themes, Arthas' theme, Sunstrider Isle, and Lament of the Highborne
i hear in it some harry potter vibes
10:43 onwards wow
I swear to f*ck if Blizzard pull a "she was doing everything for the greater good" or just make her Kerrigan 2.0....
I know this whole let the sould be free concept will be explained in greater detail. But we know this whole breaking the cycle nonsense is coming from sylvanas's twisted perspective in things right?
Can you feel it, my Warchief, closing in all around you? The Light's justice has been awakened.
The sins of the past have finally caught up to you. You will be called to account for all the atrocities you've committed, the unspeakable horrors you've let loose upon this world, and the dark, ancient powers you've enslaved.
Though the people of Teldrassil were among of the first to be devoured by your evil, there are thousands more you consigned to the Maw, and they cry out for release. Look now to your defenses, my Warchief, for the champions of justice gather at your gates!
I seriously hope they don't try to redeem Sylvanas in this expansion
i hope they do to make you mad
Same, don't care about her, just to trigger you.
I hope they do. Arthas ruined her life AND death.
This music sound like they are gonna tho
And she has done the same thing to thousands of others, she is no better than him
hype
I have a feeling that Sylvanas's final defeat in this expansion will be like Aizen's or like the father of the hommunculi's
Isn’t she having a redemption arc?
@@isaei4799 she better not lets redeem mass genocide lets hear how that was a thing needed to be done for the greater good
Justin Lira Aguero I heard it was datamined somewhere idk.??
@@121WoWfreak I mean, they redeemed Kerrigan by claiming she wasn't in control of herself when she committed atrocities, and then made her a literal god. It wouldn't surprise me if they attempt something similar with Sylvanas.
Literally any character is redeemable with the right story.
There's ads on youtube? LOL, people must have viruses in their PC's or something.
Nobody
People who listen to this music: I'm going to kill Sylvanas
idiots*
Yes this music is going to wipe away all bad deeds she has done ;)
@@trancers3 ye. No. Thats one way of not listening to the fans. She has no place in this world or the afterlife aside from being tormented in the maw.
They better not listen to Alliance fans.
@@moonrazor2039 idiots are those simps who would let her chop their limbs, burn their kids alive and gouge out the eyes of their parents if it means that shes doing it to save their local Starbucks from closing down.
"Free Will" what a joke, look up Derek Proudmore. Sylvanas was ruined in BfA and should have died in Sanctum of Domination.
Almost sounds like another song I know, and that one had lyrics.
Now let's see...how did it go...oh yeah!
"I'm on the moon...it's made of cheese"
Для проходного аддона пойдёт
free to die and never show her face on azeroth and to be forgotten
AngelThump
Rush song
There is nothing for Sylvanas but death. Nothing can defend her actions. I can't wait to finally kill her off and never see her plot-armored ass again. Vitriol aside, the music is very good! What I have heard from Shadowlands music, and played in the Beta, I am intrigued and interested to see where the story goes, but if it ends with anything else than Sylvanas' death, it's going to be the worst expansion of them all.
Pls tell me that's not the actual name?
it is
Embrace the Shadows, friends!
"free will" claims the dictator of forsakens so ironic
Spoken like someone who never actually played a Forsaken character or completed any Forsaken quests.
what is up with all the sylvanas fanatics here? do they really think that sylvanas gives a damn about them?
edit: also there's the fact that she abandoned most of the forsaken, with only a few like nathanos still at her side, with nathanos acting like a jerk towards you
''horde sylvanas loyalists:''ultimately abandoned and discarded by sylvanas as despite their loyalty, the banshee queen had no intention of saving loyalist adventurers from what was to come''
The loyalist ending cinematic says the opposite.
@@gonzalonavarro9584 its probably just a lie to her loyalists to keep their hopes up as she sees no more use for them. in reality, only people like nathanos or sira are still with her
@@Carpenter0361 Maybe, maybe not. Who's your favorite? do you have one?
@@gonzalonavarro9584 not really having a favorite in the loyalists, but if i had to choose, sira
I serve the Banshee Queen!
Ironic.
Firt
This sounds so muted for the dark lady. I expect her theme to be similar to "Lament of the Highborne." This just sounds generic. How does this represent Sylvanas?
More like represents a suffering soul, who didnt even tryed to fight against fate.
But know she does.
i disagree it sounds tragic and somber like a fleeting soul looking for peace and lashing out and sometimes even slightly hopeful. Seems pretty fitting.
Clearly you dont know much about Sylvanas or music
Heart of the Nexus if this represents Sylvanas then it maybe should incorporate some of her past themes. I don’t expect Sylvanas to sound so somber and defeated. I expect our Dark Lady to rage against death and darkness. Her music should be less melancholic and muted. She’s our Banshee Queen and the music should wail against our ears and haunt our souls. This doesn’t sound like a song I expect to be associated with her, but I suppose it’s somber.
Escalusia I do know the themes of Sylvanas, but we can’t just agree to whatever music they put out there then say, “That’s Sylvanas.” Her music should go from soft to loud to angry than somber representing the grief and hatred that defines her. She’s a broken woman who I don’t define by just a somber soft tone, but I suppose we each are entitled to our opinions.
I cannot wait for the cinematic where Sylvanas thinks she just killed tyrande after a well place arrow only for her to be obliterated to nothingness by Elune raw power channeling through tyrande with a first glimpse of what Elune actually looks like.
Fanfiction can be fun.
Hopefully the 'Free Will' we get in regards to Sylvanas is some Rush playing while we Sparta-kick her off the top of Torghast.
Sparta-kick? What are you 12?
How many twelve year olds do you know that know an old meme like this?
@@Thagesthoughts only you
Sure, sure, whatever helps you sleep at night, friend.
@@Thagesthoughts Thank you