Bojack Horseman - What Does Bojack Need?
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- What does the man who has everything need to be happy?
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'What does BoJack Horseman need?'
A Therapist
Carmen Austins that’ll end the series right away
@pornoWmzika it doesn't always work
remember he had a therapist in season 5.that didn’t even work for him.
@@danieldvnn He didnt even continue the therapy, but for the end of season 5 he is actually getting help
It won‘t help because it can‘t. Some people just can‘t be helped. They need to learn to live with it.
My mom always told me that before I was born, she can go on a trip without any burden, and I took it away from her. My father and mother also keep arguing about money that almost led to a divorce and said if I wasn't born, they would have an easier life. I'm now 22 and I ended up exactly like Bojack. There's always a little me in my head, telling me that I'm a piece of shit, and can not achieve anything. Even if I got into the best university in my country, my parents were never satisfied. I really don't know what to do. Sorry for my shitty English.
look up CPTSD and read the book about it by Pete Walker. Life changing. It's emotional neglect you experienced
Idk. Man/Sis. Contact me. What you saying is Damn hard! This too shall pass!🍻
Your parents are assholes sorry for the insult. Even if they are your parents don't try to look after their approval, they don't deserve you. Try to live life like you want and think is the best.
*Practical advice:* You need to change your inner monolog. Understand that your parents are wrong, that you are not and was never responsible for their happiness - their life is their own doing. Then tell yourself over and over that you are good, that you are worthy of love, that you can change and evolve every day. And it's true. Thinking it constantly will help you believe it. Then you'll need to recognize the times you tell yourself the negative lies, and each time replace it with positive thoughts - with the truth.
Your thinking leads to doing, and it's important to know that you CAN change your way of thinking. It never stops completely, but you can dismiss it faster and remember the good, so you don't get paralyzed by your own self-hate. Be free of self hate, learn to love yourself for what you are, and know that you are worthy even when you are not your best.
Basically, you need to learn to be your own cheerleader. Then you'll realize that it's easier to have good relationships with other people, because when you are kind to yourself, you allow yourself to be kind to other people.
I hope this helps. Nothing is better than getting help (A psychologist will help recognize the lies you tell yourself) but those are the essential tools I learned in my own journey. I hope you're doing better!
dialectical and behavioural therapy change the way that we think and break the patterns and pathways that our brains have formed over the years of our development. it really helped me change that little inner voice to something more positive. i would definitely look into it! even if you can't afford therapy or don't have insurance, you can still practice mindfulness and cbt as well as dbt. there are many activities if you search for them!
"Everybody loves you, but nobody likes you." Damn.
It's honestly the opposite for me.
@@micahellis5390
Liking can lead to love
He has it backwards. Anyone can like someone, but love itself is harder to achieve.
thats such an entp problem, damn lifes hard for us
@@righthandstep5
I don't think you understand the quote.
He wants... a platonic form of love. I think he wants to know unconditional love. I think Hollyhock opened up his eyes in a broad sense. To be able to have someone who has a connection to him where it isn't something that it's not. Whether it's a romantic relationship, or people who love him for his acting. Out of nowhere, there she was. She spent time with him, and immediately saw all of his flaws. She called him out for his shitty behavior, to the point where she questioned her own concerns regarding her dads and a lack of a mother. But she didn't reject him. He found a connection with someone where it wasn't romance, friendship... Hollyhock was a random encounter and someone who reached out to him. Even after he royally fucked up in every way imaginable, she still reached out to him and wanted him to be a part of her life. He can get therapy, he can have his friends forgive him time and time again. But Hollyhock I think-- will open up a whole new chapter in Bojack. He even mentioned to his god-awful mother, Beatrice, that parenting is hard.That scene where he painted a beautiful picture for a mother, when, none of us would blame him for simply dumping her off and letting her live the last few days of her life out in confusion, he still tried to give her one last thing. I think that's a HUGE sign of improvement. That he didn't owe a goddamn thing to Beatrice, and still stopped himself short of putting a final nail in her coffin. I'm really looking forward to season 5.
Soo, someone in the family that is not shitty? :V
@Angela Solon Definitely not
What'd you think of that Free Churro?
As for Diane, yes, I think he has a form of that with her. She said it herself, 'you're an asshole and I hate you, but you're my friend, and you need me.' Everyone else had reached their breaking point with him and just decided to cut him out of their lives. But she stuck around to try and push him in the right direction to getting back on the right path. I think that is a big show on Diane's commitment to her friendship with him, even at its lowest point.
Free Churro was an amazing reflection of him addressing the issues with his dysfunctional childhood, at least on his own, anyways. There is nothing Beatrice can do to him anymore, or make him feel, she's gone. So now, there is that responsibility he will have to carry with him. Even with all the recollection of what a terrible mother she was, he still at least managed to show the slightest bit of compassion. By offering to open up the casket for her after deciding it was what she would have wanted. Too bad it was for the wrong casket. :P
Seeing how he treats Hollyhock as opposed to Sarah Lynn really hammered home that he's grown. Hollyhock is the first person he's genuinely treated well.
Bojack is so upliftingly depressing.
That's...the best description for this show I have ever heard.
Yeah thats how I felt about the show for a while.....but on my third watch i can say that its because I focused my energy on bojack being the main character. I now focus alot of energy on my favourite charcaters like princess caroline and mr.peanut butter. SO it way less depressing now
Uh...??
a therapist.
A hobby.
And he has to learn what "happiness" is. Not that absurd fantasy but just being content with the situation.
my hobby is speedruning videogames and also to have my nice adult fun time
I was going to say, has he tried crochet? A surprising number of recovering addicts have taken it up lately and it seems to help 😂
"You go around the horn! Like a gentleman"
You go around the horn! The way God intended!
Is that a heart or a lima bean?
I tried my best... :(
"No you didn't, you slacked off and took the easy way out."
Hahaha this is all I can think about when I see the memes. Who thought this would be relevant.
If anything, Bojack is also a cautionary tale about the effects that abuse can have on someone and their psychology.
There has been a theme of very toxic and damaging behaviour through Bojack's family where members are damaged and then in turn damage those around them, like a curse. Beatrice had a terrible childhood at the hands of her father (and god knows what he might have gone through as a child). Her father "ruined" her and then she in turn along with Butterscotch "ruined" Bojack. Bojack is very afraid of doing the same thing to those around him, especially Hollyhock. I think the reason the season 4 finale made me so emotional is because we see Bojack go out of his way to try and help Hollyhock by finding her mother and then he does. Not only that but he still wants her to be part of his life and Hollyhock wants the same thing. He apologised for his failings and she bears no resentment towards him.
While they might not have a parent/child relationship, they're still family, a family with a known chain of trauma and passing that on. A chain that Bojack has broken.
He passed the trauma onto his sitcom daughter instead of his actual one.
Yes, I know Sarah Lynn wasn't his daughter in the show and they had sex and drugs. I think the comparison still holds up.
I just think that Bojack is looking for a nonexistent "perfect" happiness. Because he thinks all his problems will be cured with it, and happiness is not about that, is about knowing how to deal and tolerate with your problems and actually trying to do new things. He has to cope with his depression and accept it as a part of himself, and just dont put himself such high goals.
dude you just helped me more than my therapist
When you learn about Beatrice’s childhood you vaguely realise why she has is so cold to bojack.
She tried so hard to not become her father and tried to be a decent and happy person.
But ultimately she ended up a broken woman as cold as her own father without ever realising it.
A curse she ended up passing onto her own son
Watching Bojack made me realize my own parents abuses, and it made me realize I needed to take therapy seriously, and not to take my personal relationships with people for granted. Especially it showed me that it's ok to be mediocre. All the wealth and clout can't give you a happy meaningful life, but you can be a couch surfing asexual bum that just spends your days doing little things in every one else's life and be completely fulfilled as a person.
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Todd
Underrated channel. Quality content!
He needs a real family, every season it seems that having some semblance in normalcy with a family is what he truly desires. Or what he feels he needs...
"What does Diane Nguyen actually want?"
I legit remembered googling that after finishing Season 4.
To make a difference, i suppose
What does CheesecakeLasagna want?
FFKonoko Thanks for asking; I've been asking too.
This is such a good video. I'm sorry i didn't see this sooner.
If you don't mind i would like to add something to this. Bojack's main problem isn't only that he doesn't believe he can be happy. He refuses to take responsability and try to change it by changing himself.
Bojack constantly tries to be in a relationship because he hopes the right woman will find a way to change him and make him happy.
Charlotte told Bojack about how L.A was like a tar pit where you slowly sinks you. That made Bojack decide L.A was the source of his unhappiness and ran away to New Mexico hoping that would be enough to change him.
He needs to realize change depends on him, not on other people or another place, him.
gee man, you just helped me more than my therapist
Are you a therapist? Maybe I should stop spending 240 per week and just watch Bojack analyses instead.
Everyone has different situations that need different answers but if you feel that your theraphy isnt working you should change therapist
Why did this video helped me more than months of therapy lol
Probably because some, not all, but some therapists realize that their business model needs repeat customers, I mean clients, and helping clients just enough to feel hope but not enough to feel better so they don't need to keep going is that sweet spot for money.
Bad therapist go get a new one
@@wvu05 I want to be a therapist one day because I want to help people and I think mental health is one of the most important things in life and the fact that some therapists do that really pisses me off
@@popeyespizza330 Indeed. If that is your model of business, you are a terrible therapist and a terrible person. I have seen some version of it when saying "I feel better, so I don't need to come in now," for the therapist to insist that I had more work to do. Well, if I don't feel like I need help at this time and I am doing better, then what is the point of continuing?
@@wvu05 Ridiculous really. I can’t wait to make difference!
I don't know about billions but he is certainly wealthy
Yeah I think I saw something like estimated 40 million
There was a another time that Bojack was truly happy.
Before he messed everything up, he had meaningful relationships and self assurance when he was in New Mexico.
Mr. Peanutbutter's contributing factor seems to be him, either lying or moving ahead with ideas that Diane has told him he should not do. When Diane is asked by Mr. Peanutbutter to marry him, he says there's no cameras, but nope, there was cameras. I don't believe Mr. Peanutbutter's intentions were to hurt Diane's feelings or anything, but he doesn't seem to care about the minor details with Diane's happiness, if that makes sense. Such as letting his previous wives be around so much, one being his campaign manager even. In season 4, he goes off to take selfies with fans, but doesn't come back to Diane for a very long time, indicating to me that he either got really caught up or he wasn't thinking of spending time with Diane. I also think he's still harboring some ill-will towards her, for her lying to him about still being away but instead hiding at Bojack's house, Mr. Peanutbutter doesn't seem to let his true feelings out very often, even if it should be out in the open and talked about.
To say Diane is completely innocent though is incorrect, she spends a lot of time with Bojack Horseman, someone who sleeps around a lot, so while it is completely innocent (Aside from a lot of moments in season 1), how does that look to Mr. Peanutbutter? Not that she can't be friends with Bojack, it just looks really bad that instead of being in a different country she's been hiding at another man's house.
I think I'm more willing to defend Diane more overall, but it seems to me both are trying, but they never try together. Mr. Peanutbutter gives her grand gestures as his way of trying to show he cares, and Diane tries to do the smaller things, like support his campaign and try to make the hotel evening sexy to show that she cares. But they both need to realize they do care for each other, just maybe find the right methods, words, and time to say it.
That moment you realize you're Bojack...
Midnite Rivers same
Fr...this show made me realise that mental health is really important and you souldn't ignore it...now I'm struggling to fix it thanks to the show
To be seen.
These videos really shed a whole new light on the series and I thought I loved it enough. Your videos are fantastic man! Thank you for your hard work!
7:04 Phil Swift: THAT'S A LOT OF DAMAGE!
This video made me realize what's wrong with my way of thinking, and that I can work on that, thank you
it's like, when you're depressed you tell yourself that you just need this one thing, and you'll be better. But then you get it, and you're still depressed, and now you don't know what to want. I just makes it worse somehow.
Another amazing video from Shady. Good job as always!
Every time I see a flashback with his parents, I think "Child Protective Services"
I agree that Bojack needs to believe that he can get better, but the thing about being abused through an entire childhood is that it's not as simple as just "letting go of the past". I get your point, if you want happiness, you have to work for it yourself, but it's not nearly as simple.
Bad parents give you mental illnesses and your brain is literally wired differently if you've been through an abusive upbringing. You have to work for your happiness consciously and diligently, and you have to make a lot of sacrifices for that, sometimes it means forcing yourself to be a content person, when you couldn't be further away from that.
It's very difficult, and Bojack, even without considering his stubbornness, has a really long way to go, and I really want to see him succeed. He doesn't need/won't be able to let go of the past, he needs to work against the effects of it. Because even if he lets go, the symptoms will remain there.
Sincerely, an actual victim of 20 years of parental abuse
Simple =/= easy.
Billions of dollars? Millions, yes. Not billions dude. :O
Man keep up these quality of videos and you’ll blow up, I doubt your whole channel is about Bojack and friends but you can always choose concepts that are interesting for a large group of people you have a great voice, you use great tonality and you just earned a subscriber
Bojack needs Bojack the drug
Such a good vid ma dude ! I think you nailed it on the head with the whole belief analysis!
Love what you said about perspective being like a ship. I might use that, if thats ok
No prob.
I’m so glad to have recently stumbled across your channel. Nice work. ❤️
Yeah, but as long as he believes it's his choice then he blames himself for everything that goes wrong, including the things that are out of his control. Others blame him because they don't know about his past trauma and it only repeats the cycle. Ever notice how the happy characters always stress how everything is a choice? Possibly because they are feeding their own ego by giving the same person the same failed advice and watching them struggle. Perhaps when they see this they feel better about themselves being the one who "made the right choice" instead of the one who is too apathetic to care about people who are literally killing themselves, or too preoccupied with enjoying their own lives.
Michael Morse Almost Everything in life IS a choice. Sorry to inform you, but people are responsible for their own actions and should be accountable for what they choose to do. Not all the characters are genuinely happy; but they are still happy and live a good life. They chose to make choices to better their lives and made the decisions and actions to make their own lives content.
It’s like when Charlotte says, “You are the tar pit,” The whole point of Charlotte being brought up again in the show is because it is to make you realize that it doesn’t matter where you come from and where you go, you are responsible for your own happiness as well as your misery. If Bojack wants to be truly happy, he needs to do what it takes to do that; Bojack is his own worst enemy; he does nothing but drugs; how is that really helping him in life? He doesnt commit to anything and he ruined his friendship with Charlotte by almost committing statutory rape with her daughter. Bojack is miserable because he enjoys wallowing in his misery and getting people to feel sorry for him. He doesnt want to change because that requires effort and hardwork.
@@ahappilydrunkpuppy8961 All decisions are a result of our brains wiring and our upbringing, neither of which we have any control over. Therefore since no one chooses to be born as who they are, no one deserves anything good or bad. There is only things that need to be done for the greater good. Charlotte didn't care that bojack was emotionally abused his whole life. She just kept sitting around like a princess, calling bojack a coward and expecting him to magically snap out of his mental illness and make the first move. Instead of being sympathetic she treats bojack like garbage the second he threatens her happiness with no regard to how he might feel.
I disagree with both of you, at a certain age you need to take responsibility and realize- hey not everything can be blamed on circumstances and mental illnesses, etc. For every person who lived a miserable life and blamed their awful childhood Theres a story about those who broke the chain and would never treat their child the same way they were treated. That said I don’t think Bojack is sociopathic garbage as Diane put it- there’s no good people or bad people, just people who do bad things sometimes and good things sometimes, and we should always strive to be better. Even the people who have committed the worst crimes have a heart, that said they need to want to change and admit they’re the problem first
Ha! I was aware of the hierarchy of needs without knowing about it. You're not with your materials forever, but your with yourself forever through good and bad.
I love how they pay attention to Mr. Peanutbutter's dog portion. After he said "What more could the Universe possibly owe you?" His top teeth were still out lmao.
I really love your analysis on the show and it’s characters!
Thank you for making this, your explanation of the anchors for ingrained beliefs and the example of Bojack feels really, really helpful
damn, ive just discovered your channel yesterday and been binging your vids. this one hits different and close to home fam. thank you
This is very informative, and helpful / relevant to my life as well. Thank you for sharing your perspective!
Wow just wow ..Another great video. Poetic. And so insightful.
Most of his problems stem from his upbringing. Having emotionally neglectful parents can really warp your view of the world. If even your own parents can't seem to be genuinely love you then why would you believe anyone else would? Bojack never got to know what unconditional love was.
Damn I love your content, dude.
All your bojack videos are like therapy for me and stuff like I watch bojack and relate alot to the feelings of bojack theses analysis videos on bojack to break down questions and theorys is jjst like helpful to think may this be something wrong or like advice to learn from? These videos inspire me to think about issues and life and I thank you for making them and putting your time effort and thoughts into all your work you're one of my favorite UA-camr
Medication, therapy, support and time
Awesome vid!
Thought-provoking analysis. Are you a psychology major by any chance?
We have the same profile pic. I thought I left this comment at first lol. Then I read the name.
Petra Publications 😂😂😂😂
This channel is so underrated
Hey man idk if u care but this vid rly helped me contextualize shit going on with my family. I know u didnt make this content for self worth from others but genuinely. Thank you man
I’m ecstatic that you mentioned Maslow’s Hierarchy
because it crossed my mind during the video on Gina. Maslow determined that the
path of self-actualization was most rewarding if it was undergone with
compassion and consideration for others, just as Frankl insisted that happiness
was at best a byproduct of living meaningfully.
Regarding intent in relationships, it is obvious that
we are responsible not for our own happiness but for one another’s, though we
cannot entirely be blamed for unhappiness because it’s not entirely within our
own control; it is the INTENT, however, to make one another happy that lends
MEANING to relationships and thereby PRODUCES happiness as its byproduct, at
least in theory.
Why, then is Gina’s youthful idealism squandered by “the
Real World”? Simply put, it is because “real people” take a long time to
recognize this Deeper Truth. People think they can get ahead by being selfish
and immoral, and though plenty of talented young stars are also wise beyond
their years, they often have yet to learn that others are neither so wise nor
so good. The good person’s actualization is often impeded by the nasty one’s
attempts to progress. Yet if we can read intent, we can at least decide who is
truly to blame for this and, more importantly, whether or not we will become
part of the problem. Will we “grow up” and become corrupt? Or will we cling to
our idealism, knowing that we will continue to be seen by the contemporary
World as “mere” victims, at least until the World Itself Grows Up?
[({M.M.)}]
bro, I love your videos now...watched a few in string.
Another amazing video. I can apply this same wisdom to my own life. Thank you.
I think it's also that he isn't able to see the bad things in his life, and just see them and how he can change them. He is actually always blaming them on himself, or something else like a place. In that episode where we hear his thoughts, it's shown that he does, in a way, take responsibility. He sees how he affects everything, but all he does is see. He doesn't do. He doesn't make real efforts to change things in his life, because he doesn't know how. All he knows how to do is run away, but his issues always follow him. He doesn't know how to change himself, he just knows how to change how he sees the world (being on drugs or alcohol, moving to different places). So I think what he needs to do is cry, think of all the bad things in his life, but just think about them, not blame himself for them. Only once he really sees them can he act on them. I think it would also benefit him to raise a child. He needs to know how to take care of someone else so that he can take care of himself.
There's never been a show touching me that deeply like Bojack Horseman.
That last line by Todd is so damning (albeit ultimately right) since its so similar to how his parents blamed him for ruining their lives
Complex question, but I think deep down Bojack is an artist in the true sense of the word and wants to show the world that artist sensibility, but they just see him has a comedy actor. I think is not chance that one of his most successful relationship has been during a time he was filming his most meaningful role and later he spiraled back to his old habits when they changed directors and made "Secretariat" a commercial film instead of the passion proyect he intended.
What does Bojack need
1) therapy
2) rehab
3) a healthy relationship
when you said "its also why he wants to do more thought provoking acting gigs", it synced up pretty closely with the characters mouth movements. for a moment, i almost thought it was the gerbil guy saying the line. just thought you should know, after 5 years. unless someone in the comments said it already, but i didnt see it.
The boi need some fucking love
Dude thanks for this
I love this show BJHM
A hug
Wow, this video hit me hard because I can relate in a way. You'd make a good therapist.
Whatever he wants to make himself happy it's won't happen again as long as he stays in the past
i just want to hug him
Not everyone but there's real people who has a similar mindset as Bojack horseman.
I suppose he wants what we all want, to be seen.
Bojack needs to take his own advice
I think we all need this..
Shady the man I dig the cartoon avitar
Somebody get this man a decent microphone.
Bojack: "it a heart, I tried my best..." Feeling destroyed 😔
Well maybe now that Beatrice is gone he would start believing
7:05 THATS A LOTTA DAMAGE 😭🤣🤣
An attitude adjustment
Never understood what happened to the pelican sign
Man... My parents weren't nearly as terrible as these three but I had minor toxicity in my family. And I struggle with self image but I can definitely say I have days where I feel less like Carolyn/hollyhock/Diane fusion and more like molotov cocktail of bojack, Sarah, and pb.
5:00 Very, very profound. Wow.
It's quite interesting that you say he needs to let go of the past. Usually I would agree with you but for BoJack it's a little different. From the time he was born, he was told he was a worthless mistake. Throughout what psychologists call the "critical periods" of his life, he was told how worthless and stupid he was. Even going through his adult years, after Horsin' Around, Hollywoo told him that he never really contributed anything more than a joke, when he thought he was doing something great. So if you're being told every day of your life how dumb and worthless you are, and being told that you're never truly succeeding from literally birth to now, how are you supposed to believe any different?
Bojack also has fans telling him how much they loved him in Horsin' Around, Princess Carolyn and Todd telling him how much talent he has, and even people saying that he's their Personal hero. Bojack gets told both the positive and the negative, but because he was only told the negative during his childhood, whenever he hears that part again he thinks "Oh no! The negative is here again, that must mean that the positive is a lie!"
Think about when he made what eventually became The Bojack Horseman Show. Everyone was telling him it was gonna be amazing and that he was great for the role, but because of his own self doubt he turned those compliments into insults and completely rewrote the script.
There will always be critics no matter how good one is. Even with millions of people cheering his name, Bojack will hear and tends to believe the critics because they are telling him what his mother made him believe. That's why it's important for him to get over that hold. If he can start believing his mother's opinion doesn't matter, then he can accept that it's possible that he's allowed to be happy and instead of only hearing what's bad about himself, he can start seeing the good.
5:50 I feel you Bojack.
Why did Bojack need turned into what I need... It's you
You cant just choose to be happy. Thats what depression is.
Usually when I'm talking about happiness, I'm talking about a state of being, not the emotion. The state of being happy is to be grateful for one's life and to take pleasure in that life the majority of the time. This is decided by the choices we make towards our lives. Depression causes the emotion of happiness to be in flux, but it does not control the state of being.
@@ShadyDoorags yes it does. You obviously dont know much about Major depressive disorder. Its not like feeling sad. It drains every last bit of energy and life out of you until you would rather die than get out of bed.
Depression is a flux of emotions. It can leave people feeling extremely positive to extremely negative, not just in emotions but in drive and the ability to feel satisfied or rewarded for the actions that the average person feels. And, as far as I know, depression fluxes happen in cycles which means the feelings will rise and fall. It can make people FEEL miserable, but it does not take one's willpower or intelligence away. One can still understand that they are in a good situation even if they can't feel it. One can still be thankful while feeling miserable. One can still appreciate their lives even if they cannot feel what their mind knows to be true. Depression takes control of feelings as well as the feelings of happiness, it does not take away one's choices or ability to reason which are what determine the state of being when it comes to happiness, because BEING happy is more than just FEELING happy.
Now I have to know what you think of Catra from the Netflix She-ra reboot.
I think when Beatrice said to bojack “I know you want to be happy, but you won’t. And I’m sorry” there was truth there. I think she does understand deep down it’s her fault partly and she does regret that to an extent. Not enough to change but enough to recognize she did him wrong. She has regrets but can’t move past her own traumas to give him what he needed. She messed up big, I’m not defending that...but my dad was abu$!ve when I was younger even though he loved me. He never wanted kids but mom left him with me and sis at 2 and 1. He’s apologized multiple times since we reconnected after I cut him out for 2 years. He has cried to me about it, saying he wishes he could do it over. He was adopted and went through so much trauma and a traumatic brain injury before I was born... when I was a kid all I saw was MY TRAUMA, now I know he was an unprepared traumatized man raising two girls alone. It doesn’t excuse it, but I don’t hold the anger I had towards him anymore. I learned to let it go and it’s freed me from the resentment.
This show is like "The Critic" but with consequences to the gags
Well that's 17 seconds of media that's uncomfortably relatable.
Bojack: Look at my life. Isn't it neat? Wouldn't you think my dream life is complete? Wouldn't you think I'm the horse, the horse who has everything?
That's near impossible as it is down to him reprogramming his subconscious. You can't just decide to believe something else. A believe system isn't a choice. That's why there must not be any meaning to life as people who have beliefs that do not serve them can not gain the lives that they want. They are ruled by their subconscious
Ula-Lee of course you can change what you beleive.
its just slow. it starts witb a choice,and then relies on self reflection, more choices and hard questions.
thats how brainwashing works. Thats how breaking out of brainwashing works. thats how healing from trauma and some types of mental illness works.
its very, very hard, and alot of it is self-directed only. outside support can only do that - support.
A therapist
Some years in jail maybe, since not even the death of the only person who loved him until the end seems to be a really check for him.
You are a year early
“What does Bojack need?”
More kisses from Mr Peanutbutter
Edit: This is worded as a joke but I actually do ship him with Mr Peanutbutter for a lot of the reasons outlined in this video. Bojack is aware of what he wants - self actualisation and happiness. But he doesn’t believe he deserves it because Bojack’s parents have taught him he doesn’t deserve it and he’s internalized that and he needs to learn that he deserves to be happy. I think that genuine positive regard without any conditions, without asking him to probe anything, is good for helping him to beliebe that. I think that’s why him being with Wanda is the only relationship I felt like I enjoyed him in, because she offered that. Mostly.
And I feel like Mr Peanutbutter would offer him that.
Someone happy with him as he is, to show him he doesn’t have to do anything to earn happiness or love. Mr Peanutbutter says that to him directly once too.
“Everyone deserves to be loved.”
this is simple people, happiness isn't defined by what you have. it's defined by the people you have in your life and the experiences and actions you have taken that you can claim proudly helped others, and yourself.
all money does, is open "doors" for you. but it doesn't open them all and the most important doors are completely free to enter... they just take integrity, honesty, compassion and humility to keep open. which are exceptionally hard attributes to maintain in a way that isn't completely duplicitous and self serving. money is more likely to close the most important "doors", while allowing you easy entry to the more shallow and unimportant ones.
owning a big house or fast car, being able to travel the world or enact your ambitions will only get you so far, happiness is generated by the people the you have in your life. not the things you have.
so saying "you have all the things in the world, why can't you be happy" has to be one of the most ignorant to the human condition things you can possibly say. we are social animals, and money doesn't buy friends and family.. well... it doesn't buy you the TYPE of friends or family that will give you happiness.
bojack needs connections that aren't built from his fame, then he would have a reason to pull himself together while giving a real reason to take responsibility for his life an the lives of those that have made his existence worth while.
the key to "happiness" (though i think a better word is fulfillment or contentment) is finding people worth becoming better for, not just that. but people you that will be your guiding light in at the worst times. life is a struggle no matter who you are, you need those reasons to resist that darkness or your bound to fall back into it.
because a life alone, with all the things you can imagine, with all the sycophant's and suck up's you can poke a stick at... isn't happiness.. its fake... a false life that so many look at see as their goal.. but when they finally get there.. they realize how worthless it all is. while people with next to nothing, a caring family and good friends might go home tired and dirty, they might wish to see another 0 at the end of their bank statement. but do have true happiness because of the social and familial circle they have built for themselves and maintained.
which is exceptionally hard, don't let anyone fool you into thinking otherwise. but all that effort, is more then worth it.
He’ll be broken no matter what.
That’s the most appealing idea about the series
i am bojack horseman i have never ever related to anyone more
Therapy
short answer therapy
because that worked when he did it
Wow i relate to him even though I realized I have depression... I can't even Find Happiness of me... I tried being nice people think I'm mean..
So how do you change your anchors?
What’s the difference between narcissism and asking for help?
Because at this point in my life, I have no idea what that line is.
0:18 I actually hate this conflict a lot because of how the greater plot of the episode kind of overruled it. These two are genuinely upset and they are genuinely trying to reconcile their friendship. Bojack has a heartfelt realization of what he actually wants. He envies Mr. Peanutbutter's ability to be happy consistently in ways that Bojack only dreams of. And Mr. Peanutbutter, for the first time in the show, genuinely feels hurt and isn't ready to just throw that away. But of course, the joke is that it's on live television this whole time. Mr. Peanutbutter tries to tell someone that he thinks this could take a while to resolve, only to be told that he could lose his job if he doesn't simply resolve things before the half hour is over, and so he goes out, pretends he isn't upset which he clearly is, and they just seem to make up and the event is never spoken of again. I kept thinking something like "Okay, but will they ever like, talk about this for real?" But they never do. Maybe it's because they keep reusing that joke where Mr. Peanutbutter feigns interest at parties because he has too many people to talk to, "ERICA, NICE NEW BABY, EH?" but still.