Qatar Airways Taxis Into Pole
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Taking a 400M aircraft is a huge responsibility pilots take on everyday they are working... how do you taxi it into a pole
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As a Pole, I can't stress it enough - please don't drive your aircraft into us, we already have it hard enough
Lol
IKR! That plane can go anywhere it wants; the poor poles of the world have no choice!
Stop swerving and stopping in front of moving vehicles! You poles are nearly as bad as those erratically swerving trains and bridges.
You funny Pole!
@@spvillano The International Brotherhood of Poles and Stationary Barriers (IBPSB) takes offense to that remark!
When we brought our KC-135 tanker, to Nellis AFB, the base weren’t used to large aircraft. Frequently, they directed two tankers head on, on the same taxiway. When the pilots would complain to the tower, they were told to just pass by them, just like the fighters would do. We had to keep reminding them we aren’t a fighter.
Imagine them doing stuff like that with AF1.
@@cpt_nordbart Not a problem. NO OTHER AIRCRAFT move when AF1 is in the airspace. (hell, they even stop cars!)
@@jfbeam they even stopped all traffic on my base and the major highway at the end of the runway, for Barbara Bush, when she visited the base.
Question from a sim pilot (DCS): do you guys initiate a turn while there's a fighter behind you trying to catch that basket without communicating to them?
Because I swear to god those bloody AI pilots...
@@Atlessa the refueling aircraft is on autopilot, they frequently fly a racetrack pattern once they get to their designated area. Anyone that wants fuel, has to stay in trail behind us. The turns are very wide, so following is not an issue.
Hey Kelsey, Congratulations on ONE MILLION SUBSCRIBERS!!! I'm sure many of us on the 74Crew are toasting 🥂 to your success .... and thankful for the perfect reason to grab an early prime before the Super Bowl.
hhe needs to do another roast video of peiople mean or negative comments
@@zhvonte Funny you should mention that. I thought about saying something like “We got the Boiled Owl Crew together for some toasts of champagne to celebrate and get an early start on the Super Bowl”.
Does this mean he’s going sky diving???
And that’s 1M+ subs on just THIS side of the flat Earth. 😉
Well deserved and then some. Seldom occurs on YT where you can be both entertained and educated at the same time. Keep posting and we'll keep watching, Kelsey!
Kelsey
As a retired controller in Chicago center I can tell you I have used visual separation many times. I checked with some of my still active colleagues and they say it is still an option. That being said I will give you some facts and some realities.
Visual separation can only be used up to 17999ft. If FL 180 isn’t available due to altimeter settings then descending visual through traffic at 17000ft is unavailable.
The pilot maneuvering can accept the clearance and assume full responsibility for separation or reject it out of hand. The other aircraft must be told, but does not need to see the traffic. A non maneuvering aircraft can volunteer to maintain visual separation but then assumes responsibility regardless of what the other guy does.
While it is a tool there is some reluctance amongst many controllers for various reasons.
1. Often the other pilot will complain like this guy did. In this example the pilots complaint must be made against the other aircraft not the controller.
2. In a very crowded environment it is possible to see the wrong aircraft. I would point out the PSA crash in San Diego 1978 where this was a contributing factor.
3. Some airlines have rules against their pilots using visual separation.
4. In the event of a TCAS RA the non maneuvering pilot will most likely respond to the RA which in the case of a scheduled carrier and a non scheduled carrier could result in both aircraft getting closer not farther. Scheduled air carriers are required to follow RA’s, civil aircraft are not.
5 controllers as a whole do not care about your companies bottom line, your schedule, your passengers comfort (to a degree), or anything other than having as hassle free day as possible. Using visual separation will at the least having some manager call them at the scope and ask them what they did. If tapes are pulled and even one small insignificant part of the clearance OR read back are wrong then the controller buys the error (we call them deals).
As a result of all this visual separation has fallen out of favor except in the tower environment where often it will be used to increase efficiency on parallel runways.
Wait a minute - Civil aircraft are not required to follow RA's as #1 priority? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having the system?
@@lisanadinebaker5179 some clarification…. Non Part 135 aircraft (commercial) maneuvering in VFR conditions performing a maneuver as visual separation they may disregard an RA if they deem it will provide a larger margin of safety by doing so. The primary purpose of this is directed at TCAS equipped aircraft vs non TCAS aircraft.
Hey, E-FOX how are things? I always hated #4, that other aircraft can mess things up. DU.
I work at an Up/down and we use visual separation almost every day. In a Tracon on a clear day, traffic is going to cleared for visual to follow all day. The tower is constantly applying visual separation, its just not put on the pilot.
I rarely use visual the way he did here. If they are crossing out, its probably safer for me just to climb them when I have the appropriate wake separation and just let the pilot fly the plane and not have to guess exactly how far that larger plane is behind them.
My son is one of those maintainers that gets flown up, or in some cases drives out, to work on aircraft. Fortunately, he handles business jets, not commercial. When you say wildly expensive, you're not kidding. He's certified and already makes a decent living, plus there are always two people, plus travel and accommodations if it turns into a multi-day gig. I would say he's living the life, but as you know, every person that works on an airplane knows they are responsible for the lives on board if they don't nail their job every time. So, yea, lots of money in the aircraft industry and just about any position, but there's an equal amount of stress and responsibility that goes with it.
thats what i find crazy about piloting is you can make $100+ million mistake pretty fast just because you didnt sleep enough the day before. then you lose your job and no one wants to hire you anymore and all your hard work getting there is gone
I go on field trips to replace A/C engines and after replacement the norm is for my 5 technician crew to fly back to home base with the pilots. An open cockpit door and just mechanics is a wild takeoff and steep banking ride home. The best aircraft for climbing I have experienced is the MD80. The pilots are real comfortable knowing the crew replacing the engine are willing to fly with them.
In my P-3 squadron in the USN, pilots with primarily admin jobs would still need to keep current. They often did this by checking out an aircraft for a weekend and flying somewhere. Anyone in the squadron could sign up for the flight during the preceding week, and get dropped off at any airport (that could host a P-3) roughly between our base and the ultimate destination. The resulting "cross country navigation flights" were zig-zag affairs that usually spanned the country with half a dozen quick stops outbound on Friday, and returning on Sunday, reversing the process. Many of the passengers on the flights were maintenance mechanics and technicians that were not normally aircrew, so it was quite a treat to fly on the birds we maintained. (Being a tech, I gave the APS-80 radar system quite a workout during the flights.) One time stopping to drop someone off at an air force base, everyone ignored the call to strap in and stayed in the flight station (cockpit). The pilots cheerfully went along with it (no words spoken) resulting in there being 9 of us watching the landing with a pilot's eye view....frigging cool!
MD-80 😍🚀
@Steve Anderson I often fly jump seat for 3 hour flights. Should have been a pilot instead of a helicopter mechanic 67U.
I think PSA back in the 80’s flew DC-9s or md-80s. They used to take off straight up. I used to sit in the airport and just watch those guys take off
A/C? Air-conditioning? Aircraft?
One of my biggest "Brown Pants" moments came while doing pattern work shortly after getting my private certificate. I was in a 172, using the shorter GA runway 35. Normally right traffic. Due to several inbound aircraft for 35, the tower asked if they could transition me to the larger parallel runway 36 until they cleared the arrivals. Sure. So they instructed me to make left traffic and enter the left downwind for 36, cleared for the option, traffic departing prior to your arrival is a regional jet. 18/36 is a 12,900 foot long runway. As I was crossing the departure end, east to west, they cleared the CRJ for takeoff with a right turnout to the northeast. There was a moment of panic as I'm watching this regional jet barreling towards me and begin to rotate before I had even entered the downwind. In hindsight I was never in any danger, but in that moment I was feeling pretty vulnerable and in the way!
The tower language reminded me of my student pilot days in '77. Back then, I taxied to the curtain and told the tower I was there. The tower only said "OK". I thought he was saying OK to enter the runway and take off so I started to make the turn. As I did, the radio started going crazy, so I looked out to the inbound side and saw a freighting sight of a plan on final. That plane did a go around and I did a hard left rudder. Now Towers say "Hold Short"...A much better solution.
1 Million! Fantastic! So happy for you! Now for the video. On the MD-80 and the Lear you could hear the annoyance in both pilots' voices even before the near miss. Crazy directions from ATC. Have a great week everyone!
Spent many hours helping get that Qatar bird back in the air. Hats off to the Boeing AOG team and the Qatar engineers. They did a spectacular job.
As far as climbing, I’ve been on several ferry flights in a 57. One night we took off out of MDW and got off in 1500 ft and got to FL390 in 11 minutes.
Why are you verified
@@zrjz340 lol 😂
How long ago was the Qatar incident? Do you know if anything happened to the pilots? Were there passengers onboard... and then a new jet was needed for all? (Or re-book everyone on alternative flights?)
@@comicus01 it was a cargo airplane
@@MilitanT07 That would explain it being way over there on that side of the airport. And less of a headache I hope for those trying to sort it out.
Dad was an American Airlines pilot in the 1970’s - I remember when he came home telling how on the taxiway he had run the outboard engine of his 707 into a Delta baggage cart they had left in the wrong place.
This story made me think of something a friend of mine told me once. My friend is ex-Airforce. Apparently someone in his unit screwed up an order once. They were supposed to order a small part for an A-10 wing, but they ordered a whole A-10 wing, and their supervisor missed it. They didn't figure out the mistake until the wing showed up.
Fortunately, they had storage space, so they took the part off the wing and used it, and over time they cannibalized the rest of it. Minus the storage cost/lost space, over time, the mistake actually ended up saving them money.
Won't share who did it (and there's probably been more than one)... BUT my supervisor (Navy) had an argument with one of the Supply personnel about ordering random crap, because every order posted through the command is by mil-spec numbers. That's why you usually see certain numbers and letters and alpha-numerics with dashes painted all over and scratched out until they're illegible on GI-surplus and antique memorabilia. It's illegal to leave those numbers on the stuff and sell it to civilians (security)... BUT almost nobody really pays attention, preferring to assume the guy ordering the part or piece of equipment looks it up in the proper book and CAN copy letters, dashes, and numbers properly...
SO my supervisor called up a cousin in the Airforce, and got the mil-spec's for an F-16, in a note sent by mail... that way there was no "security risk" as they knew all the protocols for that level (confidential) of security... AND wouldn't you know it... we were on an Amphibious Ship with barely enough landing platform to accomodate 3 or 4 large helicopters, and my super gets the call from the base to sign-off on delivery of an F-16... and of course, SUPPLY OFFICER has to help explain the f***-up to our Captain...
I was glad to only have tertiary knowledge of the situation, and avoid getting called into THAT conversation, but as soon as we handled the call and he was heading down to the pier, I could already see the unmistakable silhouette sitting on the back of a truck... God only knows how many people had to have completely "screwed the pooch" for that to come to fruition... There was some restriction involved, for wasting tax-,money... but it's also not like the most egregious waste of money in U.S. Military History, either. ;o)
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 Epic...lol.
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 did I read that right? Someone accidentally ordered an entire F-16?
@@UberFubarius Technically the ordering part was on purpose, "to prove a point"... It's the kind of paperwork that SHOULD be "caught" even by the mil-spec numbers. Supposedly someone is watching and checking behind everyone else..
The "accidental" part is that it was on the truck being delivered, because you're never in hell going to fly an F-16 into a Naval station and land it on an LPD (the vessel we were on at the time)...which can only handle 4 large helicopters (like a Sea King or Chinook)...
Just trying to be completely clear. If that was your interpretation, then YES, you read that right. ;o)
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 That would make a cool lawn ornament for my front yard. Let me know if you can deliver it. 🙂
Every time , days before a flight , I would check and try to keep in my head , arrival procedures - way point names and learn almost by heart the taxi routes ... I would taxi Slowly and Ask for Any thing ( sensible ) I had doubts about .
They paid me Very Good money to Command these beautiful airplanes , my job was to be Up to that Responsibility Every Time!
Many and Sincere Thanks to My Qatar Airways F/O's who helped me stay out of trouble.
Giancarlo Garlaschi Podesta
Qatar Airways B 777 Commander ( Ret .)
Kindest Regards
Hitting a pole while taxiing .... now that happened to my late father, as a private Cessna pilot, at the tiny Welshpool airport in the UK over 30 years ago. He'd been supplied with a ground chart of the airfield (a much smaller one than Chicago O'Hare, it must be said) that didn't reflect changes made to it within the preceding year, one of which was a set of poles adjacent to the taxiway. He exited the runway and drove the plane straight into them - fortunately he was uninjured but the aircraft had to be written off.
Incidentally: congratulations on achieving 1 million subscribers, Kelsey! You deserve such a massive following, with this channel that offers genuinely interesting content, educational yet delivered with good humour.
"Yes, I'd like to report a non-near-miss."
A friend was FO on United 747s and had one of the stubbies (the shortened 747 version) on a deadhead from LAX to SFO. It was his turn to fly; they had minimum fuel, nothing on board, a captain who was looking forward to some fun, and requesting maximum rate of climb, received permission and clearance to take off with the proviso to stay below 250kts. He opened those turbines up to 100% with the brakes on, released the brakes, and rotated at the correct airspeed. He said that the plane was at 3000 feet before the end of the runway and he had to throttle back when they were 70 degrees nose up and 250 knots. ATC asked if they had special engines and he said no. I forget how long it took them to get to FL350 but it was less than ten minutes. Cancer took him some years back, but not before he got his Captain seat on both 757 and 747. He told marvelous stories. I miss him.
What is not to love about zoom and boom? But stay off the ground-based poles.
Phrases like "we have the thrust to do that"☺ are part of why you now have 1 million subscribers. Congrats! You are one of my favourite UA-camr pilots and, of course, you fly my favourite plane. The Queen of the Skies, long may she reign.👑
I'm so happy to see this channel reach over 1 million. Kelsey is a complete badass and deserves all the success in the world. This has been one of the best channels on UA-cam for a long time.
Yes indeed it is, total Badd Ass. Shaloha
Congrats on one million subs.
As a retired corporate pilot I can honestly say I never ran into anything on the ground. In flight the occasional bird. Kind of unavoidable. I’ve had several hangar rash incidents where a tug or something ran into a plane I was flying, but that was about it. Those were tough calls to make, tell the boss we can’t make the trip because someone ran into his plane.
But there is a story of a incident at EWR, where I was based, back in the 80’s. I was based in the same hanger as a corporate 727-100, company will remain anonymous. He taxied out and made a left onto a roadway instead of a taxiway. Well the left wing was then introduced to a light pole just like the one in this video. Happened not more than a half mile from the hanger where they were based. Could never look at those crew members the same again.
So it doesn’t matter if it’s a crazy busy airport like Ohare or right in your own front yard, It happens.
You mention the ground crew. I used to work for UPS loading and unloading. None of these jobs require certification or anything. Your manager simply says do it. I was a tractor driver. At Christmas we're super busy with UPS bringing in extra jets. One was a 747. We unloaded and loaded the plane while another crew de-iced it which you know involves a truck with a bucket. The truck crew has a spotter to guide them around the plane, but we don't have radios and have to scream the commands. For unknown reasons the guide positioned himself under the wing.
You should be able to see the mistake will appear shortly.
So of course the guide starts to get doused in fluid. Instead of crossing his batons and telling the truck to stop, he simply ducks his head and motions for the truck to keep moving forward. The person in the bucket above realizes what is happening and stops spraying and screams for the truck to stop to no avail. Luckily the pole to the bucket only made light contact with the wing. Everyone on that crew was fired. The plane was grounded until the FAA could come out and inspect and ok it which took them 3 days. In the meantime, UPS needed to rent another 747 fast. Luckily Evergreen (CIA front) had one available. We were told total cost of the incident (in 1999) was $1,000,000.
The flight crew was also not happy because this wasn't their home. They had to make other arrangements. You would know this better than I, but we were told that they also didn't get paid. Worse, UPS couldn't move the 747 and so it sat parked there. We had to clear a whole new area for the new 747 which was further away and ate up lot of time ferrying cargo to it, something you don't want to do with a quick turn around on a big jet.
I wonder if Kelsey ever had incidents like this happen?
@@rabbit251 Ouch! 😳🤔
Plenty of people walk into poles. It does happen.
@@JoeyBlogs007 especially in eastern europe
Hi, Kelsey! Congrats on 1 million subscribers! I've been watching you for 1 year+ now and I'm always looking forward to your Sunday videos. Congratulations, you deserve it! :)
I'm what they call as "nervous flyer", I got really nervous ( or scared) when I fly. People like you and mentour pilot are the sources that really help me overcoming my fear of flying, I can't thank you enough.
74 gear is more calm and less dramatic so I like this more
My favorite takeoff was on a Lockheed 1011 and it only had about 50 people on board and after being stuck in St. Lous, gave it everything had to make up time. The funny thing was right before he hit it, he told us he was going to get us to Abergurky as fast as possible. The look on all of our faces was priceless! "Where?"
I don’t even think Scotland has one of those…
Albergurky does not exist on Google maps! (I just HAD to try!)
@@Vincent_Sullivan We were headed to Albuquerque, New Mexico. Considering the 1011 pilot managed an unlimited take off and planted us in our seats. He had a sense of humor. Bet he thought he only had 50 passengers on that fairy, not the 350 it normally carried. This was in 1982 and basically that plane was a 1st class party flight. Wonderful experience!
@@MikeK2100 Oh good… I was right. I guessed it was Albuquerque, NM… allowing for an accent 😂😊😉
@@lottiestanley7696 An accent? Bah ha ha.
Congratulations on 1 mil!!!
Congratulations for reaching the legendary 1 million subscribers Kelsey!
Looking forward to your channel hitting 7.47 million subscribers one day.
Crap, I was going to say 7.47M subs too - you win this time...
@@crankyguy135 You ARE cranky aren’t you 🙄😂🤣 😉
@@lottiestanley7696 Amateur, but hoping to turn pro...😡😡😡😁
@@crankyguy135 Nice start! 🤣 Best wishes for the future! 😊😉
ADS-B track of both should show what happened and I would think ATC has and saw the tracks. With only one mile separation when atc called the Lear it’s crazy atc didn’t give him an immediate heading away from the md80!
Going into KCOS recently I was given “N…. 737 on 4 mile final , report 737 in sight, … maintain visual separation from the 737, number two cleared to land , caution wake turbulence.
We were way too close and numerous aircraft inbound behind. Choices: go around, ask for parallel runway 35L , which is what I did.
1M subs!!! Wow...Congratulations Kelsey!!
In our airline, we have the AMM charts as in the one you are showing. We choose the aircraft type and it automatically shows the red line on unaccessible taxiways due to wingspan. Really helpful. It also shows in the NOTAMS that these taxiways are unaccessible to a certain wingspan in our case, the A350. So i think these guys did not check them unfortunately.
About the "Zulu Time" that Kelsey mentions at 2:36 or so: Zulu is for Z here, and Z is a reference to the letter that was reserved for the Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) time zone. Zulu time is actually UTC±00:00 (for Coordinated Universal Time), pretty much the same as GMT. The advantage of using Zulu time everywhere is that there is no ambiguity regarding the time zone. If it says 1100Z then you can convert it into your own time zone if you want but no one will wonder if it means 11am Eastern or Pacific or wherever else. It's common in other industries as well.
Hi Kelsey. CONGRATS for the 1M subs!!!! Cheers from Argentina.
I know you’ve recently got a new editor and I love what they’re doing!! I’m not a pilot and have actually only flown twice but I love planes. My grandpa’s best friend was a twa 747 pilot (New York tk Paris for years) and I loved listening to his stories. He is now in hospice with ALS so he can’t tell the stories anymore. So I watch your channel.
Anyway, the work your new editor is doing has made it so much easier for a non pilot to understand what you’re talking about.
Wait a minute. This UA-cam pilot has an editor??
He did it! Hit the big 1M! Congratulations Kelsey!! So happy for you!! 🎉🎉
A similar situation, but this time a”near miss”. An ATC clip I viewed had a ground controller direct an Emirates 380 down a specific taxi way and the pilot questioned that route, saying “ his aircraft will not fit” that taxiway. Too heavy, I think was the reason. There after ensured a short discussion but the A380 was adamant they were not going that way. Reinforce’s your comment that as pilot in control, situational awareness should not be abandoned to external instructions
Back in the 90's this happened twice in EWR. back when the ATC tower wa in "The Ball Park". The area in the middle of the airport that also had a gate holding area. First time was Continental Tech Ops Taxi, when they got into the ball park and did 180 to park. Hit the light pole. The Mech said he was on the line properly and NYNJ PA said was his fault. Second time, TWO MONTHS LATER! Same thing with Virgin 747 live flt w/ people and took the wing tip right off. YES the CO mech was ecstatic and saying told you so.
Enjoy to pod!
So, several years ago I went to the Chino Air Show and their "special" plane was a C-17 Globmaster. In the past they have had an A-10, an F-16, and other "performance" aircraft, so I was a little disappointed all they could get was a big bus. BUT, let me tell you, the crew of the C-17 must have had a blast showing off their empty aircraft because they really did some crazy stuff that you wouldn't ever expect from the Globmaster. It was very cool to see (and hear!). Thew crowd really enjoyed the show, and the pilots had a great time pretending to be fighter pilots‼
@brianjohnson8745 You bet. During the demo flight you could see it was very capable aircraft.
C-17 Globemaster
@@NoName-zn1sb HAHA, not a GLOB Master‼️
@@dougbell5950 Give it 20 years, they'll be calling it a GLOBmaster 🤣
Well done Kelsey on the 1 million subscribers!! 🎉 keep the blue side up ❤
I’ve been following your channel for years, I was here for 1 million! Congratulations Kelsey and keep the blue side up ✈️
I was on a 767 out of LaGuardia going to Boston, last flight of the day and there were something like 17 passengers on board. The pilot decided to take advantage of the limited pax and fuel and firewalled the throttles...he came on after takeoff and said we were airborne in 1500 feet! Everything slammed to the back of every compartment...fun flight!!
OMG 1MILLION SUbS…. Congrats Kelsey. I usually never comment on videos but this time I had to comment and acknowledge your hard work and sacrifice . I believe nobody deserves it more. Hope u have many more milestones and many more years on this platform. Good luck on your future endeavors…Cheers😊
Hey Kelsey... congratulations on ONE MILLION subscribers!! 🍾🥂 You are one of the few people here on UA-cam that I have an alert set up for bc I absolutely love your videos!! I wish aviation and especially 747 lovers, like myself, could get a ride on one of your charter flights! It would be amazing to meet you and have you as a pilot!! Thank you for continuing to bring us these awesome videos! Praying for safe flights for you always 🙏✈️
The MD80 could well have wanted the Tower's number for a near miss not because he was pissed with the Lear Jet but because he was pissed with the way ATC handled the clearance. It sounds nuts to entirely expect another pilot on another plane to miss you and no control of any of that.
1:58 - "If there's one thing I'd love to see the FAA ever change..." Yeah, you and everyone else in aviation, sir! The person who fixes the NOTAM system should win a Nobel prize.
Congrats on the big 1 million Kelsey! You and your videos are the reason why I love aviation so much! You deserve it more than ever!!!
Congratulations on 1 million 🎉🎉
Happy Valentine’s Day 😊
Can you make a video about some of the crazy simulator stories you had? That would be interesting to hear! Like what situations you were put in and how you solved them, etc.
Gotta buddy who is a sim instructor for United. Asked similar questions as yours to Kelsey, I discovered he had a sadistic streak. 😂😂😂
Ooo, yes please! I love hearing about aeronautical decision making! There's an astonishing amount of information that pilots have to keep straight just under normal circumstances, throw in some non-normal issues and things get . . . interesting.
PLEASE DON"T!
Hi Kelsey @74 Gear, regarding the conditional clearance, as you say "line up and wait behind landing traffic", it is explicitly explained in CAA CAP 413... "BIGJET 347, behind the landing 737, line up Runway 26 behind"... Notice the emphasis on the use of "behind" twice given in the instruction, at the beginning and at the end of the instruction. The pilot MUST readback the FULL conditional clearance, stating "behind" twice. If there is any doubt that the pilots have not understood the instruction, the controller will issue a "hold position" instruction. Personally I don't see a conditional clearance a safety concern.
However, I personally think it is absurd that the FAA allow controllers to "clear" multiple aircraft onto the same runway. For example, multiple aircraft can be "cleared to land" on the same runway at the same time. Take the recent Fedex 767 and Southwest 737 runway incursion in Texas, the Fedex was cleared to land, but then the Southwest was cleared for takeoff on the same runway. In Europe, the Fedex would have been given "continue approach" instruction, and the SWA takeoff clearance. If the SWA dawdled on the runway, and the Fedex had not been given a landing clearance 200ft above the runway (not necessarily MDA/DH), the Fedex should have gone around much sooner than it did. The Fedex didn't have any DH because it was doing a CAT3b autoland. Technically the airfield was operating in low visibility procedures, and the SWA should not have been given takeoff clearance with the Fedex so close on the approach. The ILS signals have to be protected, especially if the Fedex is doing a CAT3 Autoland.
I would suggest this incident should/could/would be discussed on your next video.
Keep up the good work, safe flying, and keep the blue side up!
Kind Regards
Craig
That was a very sticky situation, worth a video.
Congratulations on a million! I didn't think your videos were impacting me. I usually fly once or twice annually and I usually sleep through take off, the flight and landing. But, I have to say, I found myself being more patient and more understanding when we taxied back to the terminal and waited forever for ground crew to fix the plane, only to be switched to another plane. There was only one loud, mouthy guy on his phone complaining about it. Everyone else must also watch your videos!
Thank you Kelsey for another awesome video you make my Sunday morning great. Congrats on 1 million subscribers I can't think of a person who deserves it. Thank you for what you do. Have a great week. A fan from IN.
Hey 74gear, congratulations on 1 mil subs! If you don’t know us, our name is 74crew and we are 747 enthusiasts. Your channel 74gear is all about aviation. And we all enjoy your content.
Congrats on 1MIL!!!!!!!!
Huge congrats on 1 million, I hope your channel, like a plane after it lifts off from the ground, keeps climbing higher and higher (in subscribers, views). Keep up the great vids ✈️🥂🎇
One of these things will happen:
1. Foreign pilot: Fired. Quite possibly jailed. Certainly deported.
2. Qatari pilot: Yelled at, but no major sanction.
3. Qatari pilot who is a member of the royal family or related to a high government official: Pole will be removed and the architect who designed the airport will be investigated....
Great video!
“NOTAMs are just a bunch of garbage that nobody pays any attention to,” U.S. National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) Chairman Robert Sumwalt said at a 2018 hearing on an Air Canada near-miss incident.
Congratulations on 1 million! 💜
Glad there was no fuel leak, that would have really changed the situation. Congrats on 1M!!!
second clip looks like another clear case of the small plane pilot flying well within his comfort zone, and the big plane pilot having the small plane way inside his comfort zone. which would be a very good reason for traffic control to dictate clearances. it's kind of the same thing as the bicyclist riding close enough to a car or truck to touch it, even though the driver of the car or truck is required to keep at least 6 feet of clearance from a bicycle.
Congratulations on 1 million dude! You’re a big inspiration for me, I’ve wanted to fly airplanes since I was four years old and I’m finally pursuing it thanks to the confidence I’ve gained watching you and Mentour’s videos! Thanks again!
I love the faux-serious look on Kelsey's face when he listens to ATC. If he actually looks like that in the cockpit, his pilot is liable to call a medical emergency: "my co-pilot is constipated and liable to explode at any time. Request emergency descent so we can depressurize the cabin as soon as possible."
Awesome vid as always!
Congrats on 1M subscribers, well deserved. Your discussion was perfect on the trust but verify with ATC. I’ve always seen taxiing as one of your max vulnerabilities. Two people have got to be looking outside with long winged aircraft. Too many hazards that can bite you. Great video as always!
Will they let you display your gold UA-cam plaque on the flight deck? High fives for the one million subscribers 🙌🏻
Thanks for always teaching us something - I look forward to my Sunday mornings with you.
Flying airliners in MFS is a wildly different experience from a lot of other types because you actually have to be careful not to overspeed *while you're climbing on takeoff*. It's really just incredible how much power they have, especially something like a 747.
Have you got any payload configured? Sounds like you were very light. Airliners, when loaded, don't generally do that in my experience.
@@KingJellyfishII No I was just comparing like for like - a lightly loaded smaller general aviation aircraft to a lightly loaded commercial airliner
@@sumikomei I think that isn't quite as fair a comparison. The boeing 737-900 has a MTOW (maximum take-off weight) of 85,100kg and an empty weight of 44,677kg. Compare that to a cessna 172R with a MTOW of 1,111kg and an empty weight of 767kg; which are much closer to each other.
TL;DR an empty Cessna is probably closer to a two-thirds-loaded 737-900.
An empty 777 can initially climb after take-off at almost full pitch up at like 10000 feet per minute, and will be able to climb to 40000 at like an avg of like 8000 compared to the normal 1800 ish average.
"we have the thrust to do that" was said with great pride😌
Hey Kelsey, congrats on 1 million subs! Truly well deserved for your well made content.
All I got; It is fortunate that the Qatar airliner hit the pole while taxi'n on the ground, and not at cruising altitude. Thanks Kelsey, interesting video.
AA didn't say if they had a TA or RA. I don't care for that phraseology on the clearance to the Lear either but they did maintain visual separation. When I flew Lears in the early '80's we always wanted that climb asap due to fuel burn.
Ground control initially told them K, BB then an immediate LEFT (without declaring what taxiway) then Zulu. The pilots read back including BB2 and ground control read back checked and corrected... I wonder if ground control failed to recognize the width restrictions because they called directions initially without where they hit that pole (which was at BB2) ?
i got to fly my first plane yesterday in a introductory flight lesson and i got to fly all but landing and was so cool. it was an amazing experience
74 Gear...king of the skies.
Hey I love your channel and I was wondering if you have to get your private pilot license before becoming a a 747 pilot
Absolutely, yes. Shortest civilian path offhand:
- Private Pilot Licence (min. 30 or 50 hours flight time, I forget which - this lets you fly a GA aircraft unsupervised)
- Commercial Pilot Licence (min. 300 hours - this lets you get paid for flying)
- Air Transport Pilot Licence (min. 1500 hours - this lets you be Pilot In Command of an airliner)
There's also a set of written exams for each of those licences, and a flight test (check ride) for at least PPL. Plus you need stuff like Multi-Engine rating and Multi-Crew rating before ATPL, and individual type ratings for the more complex aircraft like the 747.
Also that's just the legal requirements. In practice I doubt you'd ever get a job flying the 747 (even as an FO like Kelsey) without already having your ATPL - a major airline will generally want ATPL even for FO, and a regional airline won't be operating 747s. This is why Kelsey talks about flying smaller airliners at the regionals before he became a 747 pilot.
In terms of "line up and wait behind landing traffic" in Europe: the correct phraseology is "Airline 55, BEHIND THE LANDING 737, line up and wait runway 36, BEHIND". The readback must also include the double "behind": "BEHIND THE LANDING 737, line up and wait runway 36, BEHIND, Airline 55". Nothing to be afraid of once you know what that means. I actually love it because implies that the controller has utmost confidence in your professionalism.
You write instructions just as I do with the slash 😊 Although imagine if they changed the system to the same in Incheon or Changi when you vacate the runway and all you hear from ATC is the magical words “Follow The Greens”!
Since I saw Mentour Pilot’s video that mentioned that system (and the pilots being used to it as a contributing factor in an accident), I’ve been wondering how the heck it would work. Aren’t there a bunch of airplanes all doing different things? How could they light a taxi path for one plane without screwing up the other planes?
@@amykathleen2 The routes for each aircraft are calculated by a computer system and presented to the ATC Ground controller for approval. They can adjust it if required. The computer knows aircraft type, wingspan and all taxiway details including closures and width. Once approved the system knows where each aircraft is via our transponders and will turn on the green lights ahead of us as we move, once we pass over a green it is switched off. If we are required to stop the taxi way centre lights will turn red, then green again when clear to go. In some airports there are also red stop bars on taxiways to also stop at when required. It’s a fantastic system also in Fog when reading taxiway signs can be difficult. Although overall we are still responsible for safe distancing with other aircraft too.
@@bizzjets2 Wow, so it’s less like you’re following a lit path and more like you’re following a moving green light that knows where you’re going? That sounds like a really impressive invention. Thank you for answering my question!!!
@@amykathleen2 No problem at all. That’s exactly how it works. Have a lovely day.
Congratulations on 1 million subs! Keep the blue side up! 😎
Way to go Kelsey on 1 million! Good video as always!!
The company i contract for had a ceiling safety reel fall and crack a wing skin on a 737-800. It also damaged the wing spar. A Boeing team took 6 weeks to repair it. It was an upper wing skin and a rear spar replacement. The cost was in the millions of dollars.
In my estimate that is a minimum 5 million dollar repair. If they replace the spar and both wing skins it is way over 10 million.
Thanks Kelsey. Yeah, I remember once I was flying from Perth, (Aus) to Singapore on a 747-SP and this thing was empty! I honestly could not see another passenger.... When we took off, WE TOOK OFF - like a rocket! (Not that I've been on a rocket) I could hardly move for a good minute - well it seemed like a minute. I actually remember saying to myself, "shitting hell"! I know it might sound weird but I actually had a headache afterwards - and I NEVER get headaches!
But I tell you what as soon as the no smoking went off I lit one up and ordered a couple of Vodkas! Hey, it was 1991...lol. Flying was still fun back then! And Qantas Pilots were mainly ex-Air Force jockeys! Ciao.
"Also known as a Texas 250." Man, that's the greatest story you've ever told on this channel, even if it wasn't you personally in the seat. Fantastic callback, thank you!
One million! Congratulations, sir. Well deserved👍
Congratulations on ONE MILLION SUBSCRIBERS!
Congratulations for 1M
For the thing with behind landing traffic (...). You have to call out it twice! Like: BEHIND landing traffic line up and wait BEHIND. That's the rule for that. So ATC and the Pilot confirms that it was understood by doubling the word "behind" at the beginning and at the end. My instructors in the preparation for my Radio certificate (written and oral) where really strict about that.
The lightposts are relatively new in that area of the airport. ORD created a deiceing pad in the area of Z-J-J1-K1-K and that pad area was under construction for some time. Since the area and the surrounding taxiways only started to get used a short time prior to this event the pilots and controllers had not yet memorized the restrictions. I am sure all involed will remember from now on.
So many folks appreciate your videos. Congrats on 1m! Keep going if you possibly can. Regards from UK!
Congrats on a million subs Kelsey!!!🎉
Congratulations Kelsey on 1m subscribers
Wow! 1,000,000 subscribers! Congratulations. Well done, you.
I remember we used to watch
Qantas do that crazy take off in there 747. Are used to run a YVR-SFO-SYD route back in , and we used to watch their mostly empty plane rocket out of Vancouver
Kelsey, because of you, I finally scheduled my discovery flight. I am so excited. Congrats on 1M subscribers!
I remember the first time i took a deep dive into the map at KORD on Foreflight.
We had to taxi there and it was obviously a sprawling, complicated, “hot spot-rich” layout (pretty eye-popping for a GA pilot to display all the traffic and watch the movements).
But when I saw the area on B between A4 and A5 actually labeled on the map as the “Penalty Box” I thought, “yeah, par for the course. We need to taxi out and get wheels up.”
At KORD you truly must keep your head on a swivel if you want to join any airline’s “frequent survivor” program while there.
🎈 First. Congratulations to one million subscribers. You deserve it! Hats off! 🎉
The B777-200F, hit the light post (which could take a beating) on August 5 2022.
I’m looking at the sheet for KORD and it says (as you mentioned) that BB2 Tway is not allowed for wingspans exceeding 118ft (36m) - so why on God’s green planet was it directed to BB2 at all. The read-back (BB2) was confirmed by ATC. Somewhat strange. 🤔
4:30 - What I love about this is that all those taxiways are brand new. That's all very recent construction. Why they wouldn't have ensured adequate wing clearance up to an A380... is anyone's guess.
congrats on the one mil, thx to you i want to be a pilot in the future your the best
Well timed topic with that plane that hit a bus yesterday in LA.
Congrats on the one million! And I can't say this enough, THANK YOU for no music during your narration. I wish all YT hosts would learn the fact that music is not helping their cause when used during the narration. We're not watching music or dance videos.
Congrats on 1mill Kelsey!
Is it still airworthy? Let’s take a “pole”
Congrats on 1 million. I've been a fan for 3 years. It's nice to see how far you've came.
At Oshkosh, there was a 747 cargo plane that did a empty + low fuel full thrust take off. (low fuel being, enough to get to ORD+loiter)
It was insane seeing the 747 jet doing a spiraling accent Over the airport before heading off to ORD.
spiraling ascent
It's been an honor to be part of your youtube family till now. 1 million. Here's to 2 million!
It seems to me that over the last 6 months or so the COMMENTS on many of the more popular channels (especially this one) have become as entertaining and informative as the content itself. I spent the 16.5 minutes watching the video, and 30 reading the comments so far. Very well done, everyone!
Amen to that...Shaloha
"compensating for my lack of personality by flying a big plane...." Kelsey, you are the best!!! 😄😄😄🥰🥰