@@zachodommulelogging You're welcome ! A question : I'm very interested with the harness you present (Tennessee). Where did you bought it and does it exist for draft horses ?
You’ll have to have a harness maker make it for you. My harness maker in Vernon KY made mine. I may could get you his address but that’s about best I could do. You’d need a pattern to make the britchen by. The britchen has to have a 4” longer hip band than butt band. That’s the main thing. It will fit a horse too you just have to have larger sized britchen. And you need the pattern it’s made by. It’s best to have a harness shop that’s made em before make you one. You’ll just need the butt band measurement. A 1700 pound 17 hand draft horse would probably wear something like a 50-52” butt band and then the hip band would have to be like 54-56” of that makes sense. You just need a good butt band measurement. Flank to flank. Lemme know if you’re further interested and I could give you my harness makers address and you could write him to ask about it.
Thank Zack a very informative video , 😊 you answered a few important questions i have 2 young mules and I also as green as them but I'm retired and have plenty of time to go slow and be soft with the boys
Good deal! Just be extra careful. Green and green usually doesn’t go well together. But if you take time to learn and be careful you’ll prolly be okay. Just take extra safety measures. Good luck my friend and thx for watching
Hi Zach, I think that Jim Gordan recommended your channel. Good job with the teaching. I like the mules and harnesses. Do your mules wear shoes? Regards, Rick in central IL PS When I lived in Maine I worked a single steer.
Hey Rick! Yessir my mules wear shoes. Mainly for traction purposes, but we also have a lot of rocks here in Tennessee so it helps protect their feet also. I have always been intrigued by oxen but never worked any. Thanks for watching my friend
Ty sir. Well, mules have tough hair coats. That’s part of the reason they stand the heat better here in the south. I’ve heard of a few people up their who own mules and think they do just fine. But I can’t say so for sure. I can’t see why not especially compared to horses. I’d say they’d be comparable anyway.
Hi Mr Odom. Really enjoying the videos and learning alot. I'm green as grass around draft animals but the few teamsters I've been around, I've never heard one call the left horse the lead horse or the right the off hand horse. I had assumed that both animals whoad, geed and hawd the same but is one supposed to take it's queu from the other? Why do you always speak to lead mule first? I'm just a little confused on lead and off... Thanks for the education!
It’s kinda always been a thing here where I am from but in other places also. And yes my animals take ques one by one from me. Sometimes I’ll want one to “gee” a little while the other kinda holds up. Or visa versa. If one is slacking off, then I can speak to that particular animal. It just helps further train your animals to know their names and also make better work animals. You can drive em as much with your mouth as you do with the lines more or less. Thanks for watching and the kind words. Glad you could get something from it at least
@@zachodommulelogging funny thing, even when I am riding my little Belgian cross mule, I can say gee a little and she will😉. It is handy when you are busy looking at a map going down a trail or just need her to step a bit one way. She knows her name very well too, always has that ear cocked back as soon as she hears her name. They are so darn smart!
Question for you Zach. I have a squatty half Belgian. I think she is probably more like a half horse, half Belgian mule so she’s not real big but she’s done all types of plowing for the Amish in her life(she is around 16). Her partner died and they sold her off as a riding mule which she does well at but I want to drive her too. I got a harness for her and a Forecart which I know she has pulled. My question is…This Forecart is pretty heavy, should I also have a big tire behind it to counter the weight of the cart? Or should I just have the cart with nothing? I know the Forecart is designed to have something hooked behind it to help take the weight off the animal. What should I do? The Forecart is a Pioneer with a bench seat and has a brake. It also comes with a team pole but I don’t have a team so I will just be driving her in the shafts.
I’ve pulled pioneer carts with shafts with small mules and a tire or something similar behind it. You don’t need any weight on it to counter anything. Just a properly adjusted harness with shaft loops. It could pull it empty or with a tire. I use tires when training to get them tired and make them think. An empty cart really doesn’t work the animal and they tend to get themselves into mischief this way. So the tires help keep them honest. It teaches them whoa and to stand when asked. I hope I’ve helped ya some. And thanks for watching!
Awesome videos sir, I live just up the road from you in McMinnville(recognized the area you were at) if you ever need any help doing anything with your mules I’d love to help! Will be swapping out my horse for a mule sometime in the future, love the content!
Yessir I use. Not so much to spread a team tho as much as I do the “feel” that they give. And it gives a team just a little more freedom moving in and out. That’s nice in the woods. I use spreaders on my team most all the time. On my log wagon they’re spread out 48” and on my log cart they’re narrowed up to 42”. I just move the spreaders from their upper hame ring up to their spreader ring at the top their hames when working to the cart and that tightens up without any adjustment. Then when I wanna go back to the cart, I put them back down in the upper ring. That works good for me. But again, the main thing i like about them, is the feel vs running thru the hame rings. Anyway, thanks for the question and I hope I’ve answered sufficiently to where it makes sense. Take care and do come again, please
Thanks Zach, your videos are always pretty interesting and also it make me learn (or relearn !). Good job Kate and Alice (way quiet girls !)👍🥰
Glad to help anyway I can brother! And thanks. Thanks for watching also
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A question : I'm very interested with the harness you present (Tennessee). Where did you bought it and does it exist for draft horses ?
You’ll have to have a harness maker make it for you. My harness maker in Vernon KY made mine. I may could get you his address but that’s about best I could do. You’d need a pattern to make the britchen by. The britchen has to have a 4” longer hip band than butt band. That’s the main thing. It will fit a horse too you just have to have larger sized britchen. And you need the pattern it’s made by. It’s best to have a harness shop that’s made em before make you one. You’ll just need the butt band measurement. A 1700 pound 17 hand draft horse would probably wear something like a 50-52” butt band and then the hip band would have to be like 54-56” of that makes sense. You just need a good butt band measurement. Flank to flank. Lemme know if you’re further interested and I could give you my harness makers address and you could write him to ask about it.
I appreciate the insight. I learned a lot. At 64 I'm still learning
Thanks
Thank you sir for the kind words and for watching. I’m just glad ya can get something from it. That makes it worth doing. Thx
Love your series! (PS. I watch working horses with Jim!) He mentioned your channel as the guy that has the other kind of animals!!🤣
🤣🤣🤣 that’s too funny! But I do greatly appreciate him speaking for me. And thanks for watching my friend. Thx
You explain very well
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Thank you, they do come in handy for sure. My yeti cup fits perfectly lol
Thank Zack a very informative video , 😊 you answered a few important questions i have 2 young mules and I also as green as them but I'm retired and have plenty of time to go slow and be soft with the boys
Good deal! Just be extra careful. Green and green usually doesn’t go well together. But if you take time to learn and be careful you’ll prolly be okay. Just take extra safety measures. Good luck my friend and thx for watching
Love it .
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Hi Zach, I think that Jim Gordan recommended your channel. Good job with the teaching. I like the mules and harnesses. Do your mules wear shoes? Regards, Rick in central IL PS When I lived in Maine I worked a single steer.
Hey Rick! Yessir my mules wear shoes. Mainly for traction purposes, but we also have a lot of rocks here in Tennessee so it helps protect their feet also. I have always been intrigued by oxen but never worked any. Thanks for watching my friend
Well done Sir. very impressed. curious how you think Mules would do in central Canada. the weather a lot colder here
Ty sir. Well, mules have tough hair coats. That’s part of the reason they stand the heat better here in the south. I’ve heard of a few people up their who own mules and think they do just fine. But I can’t say so for sure. I can’t see why not especially compared to horses. I’d say they’d be comparable anyway.
Hi Mr Odom. Really enjoying the videos and learning alot. I'm green as grass around draft animals but the few teamsters I've been around, I've never heard one call the left horse the lead horse or the right the off hand horse. I had assumed that both animals whoad, geed and hawd the same but is one supposed to take it's queu from the other? Why do you always speak to lead mule first? I'm just a little confused on lead and off... Thanks for the education!
It’s kinda always been a thing here where I am from but in other places also. And yes my animals take ques one by one from me. Sometimes I’ll want one to “gee” a little while the other kinda holds up. Or visa versa. If one is slacking off, then I can speak to that particular animal. It just helps further train your animals to know their names and also make better work animals. You can drive em as much with your mouth as you do with the lines more or less. Thanks for watching and the kind words. Glad you could get something from it at least
@@zachodommulelogging funny thing, even when I am riding my little Belgian cross mule, I can say gee a little and she will😉. It is handy when you are busy looking at a map going down a trail or just need her to step a bit one way. She knows her name very well too, always has that ear cocked back as soon as she hears her name. They are so darn smart!
Question for you Zach.
I have a squatty half Belgian. I think she is probably more like a half horse, half Belgian mule so she’s not real big but she’s done all types of plowing for the Amish in her life(she is around 16). Her partner died and they sold her off as a riding mule which she does well at but I want to drive her too. I got a harness for her and a Forecart which I know she has pulled. My question is…This Forecart is pretty heavy, should I also have a big tire behind it to counter the weight of the cart? Or should I just have the cart with nothing? I know the Forecart is designed to have something hooked behind it to help take the weight off the animal. What should I do? The Forecart is a Pioneer with a bench seat and has a brake. It also comes with a team pole but I don’t have a team so I will just be driving her in the shafts.
I’ve pulled pioneer carts with shafts with small mules and a tire or something similar behind it. You don’t need any weight on it to counter anything. Just a properly adjusted harness with shaft loops. It could pull it empty or with a tire. I use tires when training to get them tired and make them think. An empty cart really doesn’t work the animal and they tend to get themselves into mischief this way. So the tires help keep them honest. It teaches them whoa and to stand when asked. I hope I’ve helped ya some. And thanks for watching!
@@zachodommulelogging Yes, it helped as does all your videos. You are so kind. Thank you very much!
Awesome videos sir, I live just up the road from you in McMinnville(recognized the area you were at) if you ever need any help doing anything with your mules I’d love to help! Will be swapping out my horse for a mule sometime in the future, love the content!
Thank you for the kind words and come by anytime neighbor! Thanks for watching and commenting
Where are you at State county just wondering
Morrison TN
@@zachodommulelogging ko I'm in Kentucky your doing a great job
Thanks
do you ever use line spreaders, or see any purpose for them
Yessir I use. Not so much to spread a team tho as much as I do the “feel” that they give. And it gives a team just a little more freedom moving in and out. That’s nice in the woods. I use spreaders on my team most all the time. On my log wagon they’re spread out 48” and on my log cart they’re narrowed up to 42”. I just move the spreaders from their upper hame ring up to their spreader ring at the top their hames when working to the cart and that tightens up without any adjustment. Then when I wanna go back to the cart, I put them back down in the upper ring. That works good for me. But again, the main thing i like about them, is the feel vs running thru the hame rings. Anyway, thanks for the question and I hope I’ve answered sufficiently to where it makes sense. Take care and do come again, please