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How to make 100k/YEAR with WordPress Freelancing(INTERVIEW)
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Damn, got called out for procrastinating
Same here!
Same. Needed that
Get shit done!
I literally opened a second tab for WP after being called out
🤣
2:50 How long have you been freelancing now?
3:09 How do you know how much to charge?
4:10 How many websites have you made? How do you build your client base?
5:52 What do you think about the future of WordPress?
7:20 What's the biggest contract you've ever had?
8:21 Do you outsource any of your work to other people?
8:12 What is your workflow?
9:45 How do you charge? How much upfront?
11:50 How to find clients.
Great job there with the time stamps :D
good
@@SamuelUrbain Hi, Would you recommend any tutorial for learning WordPress development.
@@abdullahnouman4428 Hey there friend. This is a great question that cannot be answered this easily. Depending on your short, mid & long term goals, the ressource might be different. What are you trying to achieve ? Thanks!
@@SamuelUrbain Short term: Make a living through WordPress development. Long-term : Start my own digital agency. Thanks for your help.
This dude isn't just a website builder. He sells a whole marketing strategy with it.
He's a wizard
Indeed
Really great content! This interview series you have Josh, is a gold mine of information. Thanks
exactly
@Black Light Exactly lol
This video is gold. It's like he's telling you everything. Thank you for the interview
Great interview for sure! I love how open and transparent he was!
Very skilled interviewer. Great content.
Hes pretty smart
You're youtube growth is exponential, it's crazy, I hope you reach 100k real soon, you deserve it
he did
Almost 200k now 😋
@@bobafruti 300
@@evorty9179 385k nearly 400k. Hope to reach that one day lol
433k...
Josh you have no fucken idea how much I appreciate this video 👍🔥
Joshua you're doing a great job with those questions... especially the ins and outs of the whole development process like plugins he use, themes, hosting etc. Keep it up. This guest was awesome!
This was awesome man. As soon as I land some clients, You and two or three others in UA-cam will be getting some support from me bro. Keep it up.
Motivation lights the fire, discipline keeps it lit
So true, cheapest clients are the worst!
Well, not the worst but the most demanding
My boss is one of those cheapest clients, I facepalm everytime he makes demands on the spot because he waves his two dollars bill.
@@Seedzification lmfao
Free clients are the worst
I needed this video, I had a few doubts but this has put my mind at ease. Thanks for the video!
Cool, I'll donate in the near future. I just donated to Traversy Media.
Thank you! I am in college and needed to hear you say that! Stopped at the beginning of the video and did my homework... now I’m back to watch the video haha
I love this, thanks Josh, so much information i wanted to hear.
I hope it helped!
that´s gold, very nice, thanx for the interview!
Man i just started procrastinating because of an intimidating task i'm working on, then he calls me out on it. Better pause the video and get back to work...
So..
Did u get the job done bro?
I hope ur good.
Wordpress is a database management system and much more that small businesses can use to increase their market and customers. Personally I would use a theme and then customize it to their business needs. Why reinvent the wheel to design a new Wordpress site?
I'm a newbie I focusing on learning React, while I work a crappy parttime job, I dont want to really do anything with wordpress. It'll take time way from React and well all the WP jobs I see are with marketing companies not tech companies.
@@jwoods9659 react takes a long time to make and maintain
Wordpress is already restricting enough by itself and themes introduce even more restrictions. I bought a theme and tried to design a wp site 2 years ago. It was very convenient at first but it became a nightmare after a while because I had zero coding knowledge. Footer logo was shown as light even though I chose dark on settings. Why ? No clue. Have to ask the developer but you have to pay for support service.
So unless you find a theme which you want to leave as is for the most part, it's not worth buying themes as a person who knows nothing or very little about coding.
Great interview, definitely gave me more insight. What a coincidence, I just created my first ecommerce wordpress website for a company. Being my first job I did not know what to charge, and I think I definitely undercharged them. In the end I charged $1k for the website, I mainly wanted the experience and a solid reference.
tf the least I charge is 10K
I know this is an old comment but, did you charge that much using a pre-made theme or did you develop a custom theme? I'm trying to figure all of this out, whenever I read posts about what to charge there's never really a direct answer. What I've pieced together so far is that for a quick, small Wordpress site using a theme from somewhere like theme-forest you'd charge < $1K maybe even $500, e-commerce sites cost more, and custom themes are where you charge upwards of $5k.
I've seen this guy Sam on twitch before. Like months ago. Now he's randomly here lol. I asked him a few questions about web development and we had a nice chat. Small world. He told me about his process. The crazy thing is that Sam doesn't even know how to code. He uses builders. He didn't reveal this in the video though. I couldn't believe it when he told me. Makes good money, and doesn't code.
Edit: I was wrong lol. He codes a bit. Html and CSS. Before, I wasn't saying that not using code is bad or anything. I just was a bit surprised. Cause I was thinking that I didn't know it was possible to get to that level of high paying clients and large projects without code. If anything, if anyone can do that then they're a genius. I'm pretty sure there's people out there that have found a solution without code that works for them. More power to them.
He did mention it but I didn't include it. He does know how to code though, just not advanced JS or frameworks.
Oh ok. I'll take your word for it since you've spoken to him more. Well from what i'm understanding, if he didn't know how to, it wouldn't matter since his process doesn't require it. Correct me if i'm wrong.
I know how to use HTML/CSS but like Joshua said, nothing really advanced. If there's stuff i really can't do, i'll try to learn it on the spot or ask for help :D Thanks for stopping by emanandchill!
That's cool. My process is similar then lol. I also use wordpress and use html/ css . Before, I wasn't saying that not using code is bad or anything. I just was a bit surprised. Cause I was thinking that I didn't know it was possible to get to that level of high paying clients and large projects without code. If anything, if anyone can do that then they're a genius. I'm pretty sure there's people out there that have found a solution without code that works for them. More power to them. Thanks for the reply. Have a nice day.
I want the similar remote work. Is it realistic?
00:45 Exactly bro. Great vid Josh and good information - especially the reseller account tip.
dope bro 10/10 would recommend. wordpress is great
Kris C just too many vulnerabilities
Yeah Kris C,... and it uses PHP!!!!!!!!!!
Samuel Urbain Still most websites use php tho... :/
@@memoriasIT lol as if other websites with their own dbs dont have vulns, i'll trust wp that sharpened their db over the years than some random dude deploying a db in one month, not to speak of the possibility to further secure your site on your own
Thanks Joshua. It's a wonderful video. Very helpful. I hope you continue making videos like these
This is grreat, thanks Joshua
I always say to look for the big projects, they pay better and understand better about respecting the scopes of the project, hence, they never ask for more, and if they do, they are willing to pay for that extra work they are asking for. On the other hand, they are better prepared to provide you with the info you need as well as pictures or texts you'll need in the process, that's something small businesses owners don't understand because they expect you to do everything for them, they even expect you to create the info from their own company, which you are not supposed to know or manage whatsoever.
this is sick man. keep it up
Hi Joshua. I love this video. You can start a series about the different roles you can find in the freelance world, data entry, penetration testing, cloud maintenance....
You ask very good questions. I enjoy your interviews
I was stuck on a comma in Django for 2 hours. It's fixed now.
FreeFly so accurate
this has been me for the last 2 days
Django is great!
took me a while to figure out you weren't talking about the movie cuz i never heard of that language
Another great video. Thank you. It's the road that I am on.
You don't really need to know php to make a child theme. You just copy and paste a couple files from the main theme and make minor edits (plenty of instructions online). Then you can make edits to the site the same way you would with the main theme. All a child theme does is protect your work from changes when there is a theme update.
DoomFinger511 theme update*
@@SH-ry2xi Correct, I'll edit that
Very helpful information, Im planning on doing this with a buddy.
_Damn, How did you know that I am procastinating when I clicked this?_
we are ALWAYS procrastinating. not hard to guess.
Yup! Us humans are quite the predictable species
Awesome video like always thanks Josh!
how is this video free? no jargon no waiting around to hear something important. this is amazing.
10:03 Felt that in my gut. Clients ghosting you after a majority (or all) of the work is done is just a horrible experience.
Really helpful information. Thanks dude.
I love the real world tips on what is actually used!
Great video. Thanks for re-editing and uploading the video Josh
Everything my man said in this video, I felt it. It was like we both lived and still live the same life. Great tips here and there for bettering your business.
Thanks man
Thanks Jay !
Much needed video. Thank you josh 🙏
Quality freelancing info! Pro tip on hosting.
Such a cool and humble guy! Thanks for this content Josh. Cheers bro 👍🏻
This was a good solid interview, with a really bright developer who knows how to hustle. Thanks for sharing it with us.
I love how direct you are with the real question!
Who else should be coding right now but is here procrastinating?
Josh: "Stop procrastinating! Do you work"
Me: Okay.
*minimizes video and listens to video* ._.
Thanks dude
You're great 🔥
I would like to know how he manage all those sites in wordpress. Does he do it in the same wordpress account? Does he has individual wordpress accounts for every client ?
there's a plugin for that, search "how to deliver a wordpress site to a client" and it will be there in the first vid
I did some wordpress work at my last job. I could totally make wordpress sites now and provide whatever customization a client needs, but literally anyone I talk to only wants to pay a small amount, so I'll just concentrate on my real job.
I'm not procrastinating! I'm learning!
Excellent, straight to the point... highly informative, and he gave tips without trying to be secretive.
I literally liked and subscribed at the intro; stay busy get work done!
Thanks for the advice man!
This is a bit off topic, but I really love your rain window screen saver! I wish I knew where I could find something like that :)
This video is a gem. Super quality
Joshua - don't know what to say...Just simple perfect video 👍👍👍👍 :Excellent expalination. Many thanks for this userful video. Its great 👑💓🕊!
i look forward your next vids - eg. covering the WordPress version 6.1 or future Gutenberg - Topics. 👑💓🕊!
the intro...thank you, I'll come back
This video is good, thx for sharing!
This is gold
love this type of content
Wow this video is gold!
You are a good interviewer!
What’s going on with the hair josh ?
Its 2 years ago lol
I've been studying MVC architecture but right now I need money, even to invest more in my studies and to support myself financially , gonna try Wordpress, learn to create themes, seens like a good way to a new dev earn some money.
Really helpful video 👌
When I started coding websites in php... I charged for 4 hours.. even though it took me 12 hours initially... remember you can do this as a freelancer.. but this will not work if your in an office setting. With coding you cannot fake it until you make it..unless you try this approach.. good job.... thanks for sharing....
More videos like this please :)
Anybody know who Sam is? Need to talk to him about a client.
This is gold!
He is an honest person
You shouldn't put water in your monitor, electricity lives there.
you've came along way Josh
When we getting that fresh cut back?
two foking introverts having a debate, congrats! I wish I could do the same ahahah
I like the wordpress dev.
Thank you for all the knowledge I needed to start as a freelance.
I saw in many freelancer pricing, they say they listed "content upload" my question is do client provide content( text/images) or do we have to write from scratch?
Or
Do we just upload dummy content "lorem ipsum" or "royalty free images"??
How about using Upwork to find clients?
Dude, this video is legitimately awesome!, Love your content. Long message incoming, sorry for it.
This guy is pretty smart to do business, I will copy some tactics and start digging around CMS to get websites up and running pretty fast.
Are you still reviewing portfolios? Let me know if you do, I would like to get a review of mine if you have the time.
One more thing, by any chance, do you have or had overseas co-workers with a temporary work visa? I used to live in Park City,Utah and I felt in love with the place, I lived there for 4 months because of an exchange program, do you know if it's possible to land a programming job for 6 months or 1 year with a temporary visa? I'm close to getting my Degree and I consider myself a medium level web developer, would love to go to Park City again or Salt Lake City.
how does hosting the website for the customer work though? are you doing it yourself and just asking them for money each month?
Damn it Josh reminding me i have to work and shit.
I call BS or an extreme case of fleeting luck. The WordPress developer scene is very crowded, with most developers willing to standup virtually any implementation of Wordpress (pretty much regardless of page count) for under $1000. A 50K Wordpress site (even with the extra services he mentioned) is almost unheard of and honestly not the best way to go for that kind of money. If it was a custom Magento build-out I could believe it, but still that would be about 35K above the going rates.
The truth is as a WordPress developer you can expect to make between $25K - $45K (per year) and that is only if you are very aggressive in your pursuit of clients. I've worked with dozens of VERY good developers, many of which were Senior Level and had 5-10 years of experience. The kind of people who can fix any problem you throw at them in 20 minutes during a screenshare, and can stand up a brand new site built from scratch in under a week. I don't see this guy as being the kind of person to be able to successfully pitch a 50K project to any business that will have confidence in moving forward with a project of that size with him.
My ex boss was a Sales genius and could smooth talk anyone, and even he couldn't get a business to commit to something like that. He owned a large video monetization site, and his brother owned a development company, the largest projects his brothers company handled were around $10K - $15K for custom build-outs (not wordpress), because that is the going rate for single site implementations, unless your dealing with a huge client who wants some serious custom dev work.
This video is either 100% BS, OR an extremely rare scenario, OR when he says 50K he ain't talkin dollars/pound. Maybe 50K in pesos or something.
The biggest take away from this interview is to always start with a high bid to feel out your clients.
-They say "I want a site that does this"
-Then you say "Ok that'll be somewhere in the neighborhood of $10,000"
-Then they say "Oh wow..that's a lot more than I expected"
-Then you say "Well if you want to use plugins instead of a custom build, we can do it for about half that."
Just basically BS your way around the conversation to gauge your customers. Nothing you say has to be true, you just want to feel them out and get an idea of what kind of money they have access to. From there, each time they ask for something (regardless of how small, or easy) you add another $2500 to the price tag, and if they object, then you say, "well we could do it this way instead, and that would only cost $1250."
That is the method my ex boss used with EVERY SINGLE client engagement. He just BS'ed them the entire conversation (promising services we didn't even offer, and stuff like that) just to get them to bite on something and gauge how much capital they had access to. Also you can use this method to gauge how technical they are (how much do they understand about what you are saying). Then if they are not technically inclined you know you can BS them even more and extract more money from them. For some this may sound immoral and wrong. But this is actually Sales 101 and what will really surprise you is when you overcharge a client (according to you) and they are happy in the end and tell you how great you did.
I will share with you a Sales related story that happened to me once. I was working as an IT Manager for a large medical distributor. This company was so successful that we all joked that we were in the business of printing money rather than selling medical supplies. We got acquired by a much larger international company, and that company used our company to make additional acquisitions in the medical supplies industry. Word got out on the street that we had a lot of cash on hand.
So fast forward a year and I get sent out to newly acquired company to be the eyes and ears of their IT department and make sure nobody there is f***in us. After I'm there for awhile I need to head back home for a week. So we needed a local tech company to send in a Level 1 tech to handle daily IT tasks (like resetting user password, fix a monitor when it's not working, low level crap like that)
So I call up our contact there (a sales dude) and he quotes me $16,800 for one week to send one of their guys over (mind you their office was only 2 miles away from our location). Me having worked in the industry for 12+ years....my jaw drops...like wtf...$16K?!!?!!? for a level one tech to sit here for a week? (and not even necessarily sit there, but come over and fix a couple issues when they arise) (and these days most stuff can be done remotely) So I tell the sales guy ... "Wow..that seems like a lot." Then he immediately says "Oh sorry! I added it up wrong...it's actually only $8400. I flubbed up on the calculator." Then I'm like..."that still sounds like a lot..." So then he says "Do you mean you only need someone to just handle a couple of low level issues if they arise?" and I say "Yea, like I explained...a level 1 tech to reset passwords and stuff like that." '...then he says "Oh I got you buddy, we can do that for $4200."
And that is how it's done.
Hey Michael! Thanks for the reply. It was a 50k project we sold and not a 50k Wordpress site. We did a rebranding, we did marketing and we did a website (ecomm). We also had to work a couple of custom plugins for them. So, thanks for replying and no it's not bullshit like you say but just a product (a website+marketing+rebranding) we sold to help this customer expand and meets their goal.
I'm myself a wordpress freelancer but because of the competition I charge only $200 per website.
Hmm seems odd to be telling folks they need a website to get better business when you dont think its worth it for your own sake
What ! That guy you interview - a web designer who does not have his own website......???
I earn way too little considering I mostly always do custom PHP and Laravel (fullstack), know WP as well (but not the fan of it at all), did Angular a few years ago ( versions 1 and 2), familiar with Vue.JS etc etc. Considering a WP dev gets 100k ... I want 200k now :D
Trust me...there is no such thing as a Wordpress dev making 100K.
Thank you.
That was good! ... How's the relevance of WordPress in June 2020?
Alive and well friend
I love WordPress.
Gold... Thanks
This is a good how to get a pay increase tutorial
I'm procrastinating by watching your video 😰
It's not procrastinating if you learn something that you can apply in your work right now :-)
Hi Josh,
I would like to start a freelance Wordpress business. How do I get in touch with Sam?
Hi Ali, join the discord with the link in the description and write me there. My name is Sam there too. Thanks
just joined the discord .. my name is Ali_ in the discord... thanks!
@@cylink1 If you found the process. Please share.
I'm in the process of learning code. Is it still worth it to learn code even though you can almost do everything on wordpress?
mmm thats like asking if you need to learn photoshop if you can just take a photo with your phone.
To be good with ANY of the WordPress page builders you need to know a little CSS
Would be great to have this all in A list XD
Can’t seem to find that SEO plugin anyone have link?
Thanks 😀
COMPLETE nutrition
After being self employed and mainly Wordpress for 10+ years and hovering under what this video mentions - I'll just say gross amount is a big difference from net amount ha ha
Who talks about net amount on YT :P
what should a new freelancer do.
I already do WordPress e-commerce stores for $100. 🙄🙄 Unlimited pages and modern features. I think I'll just go look for a job
So if this guy had a website he would get 100 clients.