The Resurrection of the Dead - David Curtis (2022 Conference)
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- A look at what the Bible says about the resurrection.
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I love how humble he is.
Agreed. Appreciate his approach much more than Pastor Dean, where he gloats about banning people for asking questions.
@@moogle_kit's not right for a pastor/teacher to ban questions. Asking questions is how we learn.
LOVED IT!! AMEN.
Yes, the law was definitely present until the destruction of the temple. And the key thing, for 2000 years there were several attempts to build the temple, yet all them miraculously failed. And that is just a sign from God, that there will never be any temple built, it is done.
The resurrection is the spiritual reconciliation to God. The raising up is the deliverance of this kingdom to God at the end of time.
Expand your thinking from this universe to that of a new eternity which is not subject to the physics or laws of this universe!
Jesus told Martha. I AM the resurrection and the life. He that believes shall never die. This shows that the understanding of resurrection was in error. It is the spiritual reconciliation to God through the operation of the cross.
He then proceeded to resurrect a literal dead man. Your thinking is illogical.
Daniel 12:2 refers to both the just and injust.
And do you read what Paul said when he explaine how the resurrection ( WILL BE ). He said this mortal will be immortal.1 cor. 15:12-52
@ 34:20, he states the resurrection happened in ad 70. How does a literal dead man receive a spiritual resurrection?
Brother, I believe that “drawing by the Father”, which when you look at the wording there, hints at a bit more effort from the Father than the one being “drawn” or “drawn out” or “dragged” and that the “drawing or dragging” done by the Father to Jesus would be more contextually applicable to Jesus’ topic of “Resurrection” and maybe not so applicable to the Sovereign Grace doctrine. My understanding is that in describing Resurrection, Jesus is instead saying that each Saint who would be “drawn” out of Sheol would be “drawn” by His Father, showing the participation of His Father in the First Resurrection of the ones being “drawn”.
What about the valley of dry bones. God asked will these bones live? It was the whole house of Israel.
Plus, He specifically said He would gather them to the land of Israel.
@@jamesridener3573 that is why I believe there will a day when we will our loved raised from the grave. I believe we will be changed from this body to one that doesn't age. 😊
Symbolic of national restoration. Basically a promise of the New Covenant giving Israel a second chance As for being gathered into the land, the land represented the Presence of God. Now God's presence is in his living Temple the body of Christ.
@@shellyblanchard5788 Believers become sprit beings that don't need bodies ageless or otherwise.
@@Nunya_Bidness_53 not necessarily, according to Genesis when God created Adam he became a living soul. We are all living souls according to that , our bodies will change to ageless like Jesus was. The fruit is what cause them to die. The curse of dying will be gone some time later on. We live in our spirit after death.
You forgot about revelation and the many people who will be resurrected as John stated. You also forgot about the new earth, which will be renewed for a reason.
So funny how you guys say it all ended in 70AD and it was all about Israel, yet somehow you are part of a new version of the covenant with Israel. I'm trying to wrap my head around christianity...but... to no avail...
No, we never said it was all about Israel, just that prophecy and "end times" stuff ended in AD70.
No one ever said it all ended in AD 70. On the contrary, it all just began in AD 70!
There's one continuous "Israel" or people of God. The old Covenant, not Israel , ended in A.D. 70. The apostate Hebrew nation was destroyed in judgement, but the Hebrews who were faithful to Messiah and to the Covenant fled and survived. Along with believing non-Hebrews they continued to be people of God under a new Covenant, where God's people, not limited by ethnicity, are His living Temple, and his earthly kingdom is not limited by geographic boundaries.
If you think about it it was the same in old Covenant national Israel; Gentiles could become proselytes of Judaism, get circumcised and follow the law, and be Covenant people. Now Hebrews can be baptized into the body of Christ and become Covenant people. In either case ethnicity is not the issue but "the circumcision which is of the heart" or "metanoia", true inner repentance and transformation.
Romans will answer your questions😁👍
@@travisnelson4840 it did.
You heretic you will do well to listen to the sermon by CH Spurgeon on the subject
Why?
20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself.
Php 3:19-21.
From this verse, Paul still looks for a physical return of Christ. Our "lowly body", it looks like as well, will be like Christ's "glorious body".
our (plural) lowly body (singular) , so it talks about the church, the correct rendering is ... body of humiliation, the time of the persecution etc against the church , Paul looked forward to the redemption of the body of humiliation into a glorious one , this is because the time of redemption was yet future to him when he wrote the book, the redemption occurred in 70ad
@@allhopefulfilled4536 Oh are you a preterist? Just wondering. You said redemption occurred in 70 ad. You don't think our redemption is still yet to come?
@allhopefulfilled4536 The fact the word used is singular is not proof of your corporate body theory. , neither is it scriptural. At least not in this case.
@@allhopefulfilled4536We all have a singular body. We is plural, that does not make the word body plural.
There is One Thing that makes me wonder....."The tombs also were opened. And many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised, and coming out of the tombs after his resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many. (Matt. 27:52-53)" - did the bodies of the Saints just falled asleep like we do every night or were they dead? If they were dead, they resurrected literally and what was with Lazarus? Was he dead or did he just sleep a little bit for three days? JESUS resurrected Lazarus literally or do i see it wrong?
I wonder so much of the same. He says he is going to talk resurrection and then misses many too. You are soooooo correct about these saints being raised. Doesn't Jesus state He is flesh and bone? So if this be the case Jesus is raised in a new body that has no blood but It's Him so the new body is raised with the spirit someone had which was in their old body. Ezekiel 37 the valley of dry bones? those bodies are completely reconstructed and put back together or well receive new parts.I stopped watching this UA-cam channel a while back because I felt they weren't correct on many aspects of the time after the 1000 year reign but I'm hoping this video is different but starting off the same. Be blessed and comment back with new thoughts
Thank you so much for this teaching I have been resurrected in newness of Life in Christ and have put to death the flesh that keeps me bound to this world. I love how Jesus corrected Martha when she said she knew that Lazarus would be raised again in the resurrection and Jesus said I am the resurrection and the life. Praise God thank you brother
Jesus came back already. Proverbs 18:13. Dont answer a matter until hearing it out.(pharaphrase). Just like fe. They have hid this from us.
Fire and brimstone / Sulphur are for refining and cleansing. The fire is not a literal fire. It's for purifying. The more stubborn and rebellion a person is determines the degree of the fire. The fire is not the end but the beginning of a relationship with our Father. 😉
Note after the lake of fire it says "Behold I make all things new".
1Jn 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
same many same all
1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
Joh 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
shadow of death = physical death
second death is real death by fire....don't have to go there Christ took it for you.
1Co 15:22 For as in > Adam all die, even so in > Christ shall all be made alive.
Mat 3:12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly > purge < his floor, ( all in Adam ) and gather his wheat ( all in Christ ) into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff ( yet so as by fire ) with unquenchable >fire.
I think you are not interpreting scripture right here. You are using the ESV and you say that God said " The day you eat of it you will surely die." That is not even what the text says in the ESV. It actually says "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die."
So you are not even reading the text properly. "In the day" starts in verse 2:4 "These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created, IN THE DAY that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.
It's clear here that the heavens and earth were not created in one day! So what is being said here? In the day means at that period of time. So it is not referring to the fact that Adam was going to die on one day but rather a prophecy of what would happen to Adam if he ate. So your analogy of this referring to spiritual death rather than physical death does not hold water.
I think it definitely refers to physical death. 100%
Do not confuse the individual personal judgement with that of the general judgement of all mankind!
Oh yes, there is a hell too! This is the problem of layperson novice semi-theologians
Why would we need the same atoms anyway? It's the DNA that matters. Read Revelation 20:4-5. The martyred saints were raised from the dead en masse (after the tribulation) to rule and reign with Christ for 1000 years.
This is a great point!
Thank you for making the conference messages available!
Excellent presentation!
@24:11 This guy states, "you're coming out of the grave, not your body."
I guess Christ didn't get that note as his entire body went missing from his grave.
"In the day that you eat thereof you shall surely die"
"A day with the Lord is as a thousand years"
Adam lived to over 800 years old. Not 1,000. In the "day" he ate thereof, he died.
And it is NOT talking about "spiritual death". It means that because they were banned from the tree of life which gives you immortality if you keep eating from it, they would eventually die. It's not that esoteric, people.
(The fruit from the tree probably kept your telomears turned off so you didn't age genetically. And Revelation says the leaves were medicine.)
The book of Jubilees chapter 4 says that "Adam lived to 930 yrs, but because of sin, died 70 short of 1000"....this was not an actual life span of 1000 literal man earth years....1000 as a number is a sign of perfection to God. Jesus never sinned...but died a physical death at around 33 yrs of age...but his life and ministry and the 40 yr millennium equals 70.....930 + 70 = 1000....
I learned alot from this. It cleared up some confusion I was having. The one portion I didn't think was a strong comparison was in relation to Adam dying in a day. Adam not dying in one 24 hour period would've make the verse untrue.
Day in Hebrew is "yome" Strong: H3117. It doesn't mean JUST a 24 hour period of time. It can mean a season of time, time period, lifetime, etc. Adam lived to be 930 years old, so technically he did die before his day was up.
2 Peter 3:8-9 :
"But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."
There is none righteous no not one.
I would be happy to explain in detail the resurrection in a clear explainable manner. Also there two resurrections. Simply ask. P.S. there are different forms of death right this moment half of the world exists in "Civil death" of capitalization by law THEY do not understand.
Job prophesied the resurrection of his flesh at the latter day, when he will behold Jesus standing on the earth with him. The Spirit, through Apostle Paul, states the entire creation will be redeemed from the corruption that God forced upon it when Adam sinned, and that the body of the Believer shall be redeemed, replacing mortal with immortality.
Job 19:25-27 KJV
For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
[26] And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
[27] Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.
Romans 8:21,23 KJV
Because *_the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God._*
[23] *_And not only they, but ourselves also,_* … groan within ourselves, *_waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body._*
1 Corinthians 15:52-53 KJV
… *_the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed._*
[53] For *_this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality._*
Life passed onto all men through Christ, as death passed on all men through Adam. That is why Revelations speaks of the 2nd death. Only those who reject Christ will be harmed by the 2nd death. Christ is the reconciliation to God through the spirit. That IS to have part in the first resurrection, which IS Christ Jesus, as spoken of in Revelations.
Time 41. We died, and we were revived. Paul spoke of those in the church who were sickly(spiritually) and near to death. These were not sharing in the sound doctrine of Christ but were misled by fables and errs, and were near to falling from grace. They were abusing the church and in danger of losing faith in Christ alone, and being cut off.
Paul told some that they had fallen from grace. So they had received it at the beginning. He told them thy Christ hath become of no effect unto them. At first He was. Nothing can separate us from God, but we can fall away. “Be not high minded but fear. “ If we continue in the faith Paul said.
I wish we could hear the questions that are asked.
I agree however the first part is very weak as atoms like electrons are interchangeable it wouldn't matter they don't actually belong to us one atom is as good as another it wouldn't have to be the exact same atoms 😂
Dead in spirit child. Read the New testament New Covenant.
And that includes translations re: Paul’s ‘supposed writings’ about women in a certain church and he was speaking of a certain woman disrupting the church.
The catholic nicean council and Talmudic rabbi’s switched it and changed it to say something Paul didn’t mean.
That is correct, translations are of paramount importance and verwand must do their due diligence and scholarship. And we do.
And another subject, being single is best.
Hulda was a prophetess in the Old Testament that Moses consulted before making his decision, not asking the High Priest.
Eschatology is our main interest. And it means (End Time) prophecies.
You believe Mystery Babylon, Revelation is Israel. We believe it’s America. She’s no longer a Mystery.
Pt. 1, if we may.
Paul did not allow women at all to exercise teaching or authority over men in the churches - because Eve was deceived into breaking God's command, and that wasn't enough, she convinced Adam into the transgression with her.
1 Timothy 2:12,14 KJV
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
[14] And *_Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived_* was in the transgression.
Thank you for this amazing teaching!
I really wish you had a audience mic.
There is a 1st resurrection (Revelations) therefore there is a 2nd. The 1st is spiritual, and is eternal life. The 2nd is the delivering up of the dead to the judgement.
Everyone gets judged. It's not a unique experience for the wicked only.
good teaching thanks dave
Paul said we are full in Christ. All things are ours.
So the hope of the believer is not a physical resurrection?
I do not think so. I think the main theme of the NT is the transition from fleshly things to the reality of the Spirit, the emphasis is very strong. Jesus even says that those that are born of the Spirit are spirit.
I* do call to witness the Resurrection Day; and I do call to witness the self-reproaching spirit ( eschew Evil)
Does man think that We cannot assemble his bone? Nay, We are able to put together in perfect order the very tips of his fingers. But man wishes to do wrong ( even) in the time in front of him. He questions:" When is the Day of Resurrection?".
Holy Quran, chapter 75; Al Qiyamah ( The Ressurection) verse 1 - 6
* Allah Subhana Wata'ala; Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
does that make us new agers? :DDDDD
The "new agers" have hijacked the term just like they hijacked the "rainbow "
The Tree of the garden was of Knowledge...you said Adam could do whatever he wanted to...but eat of the fruit...was he sinning?....I'd say yes he was... but it wasn't imputed until he ate the fruit..then he knew his transgression...he knew his "nakedness"...he was now in a broken Covenantal relationship with God....
Are we today "born into sin" like you say?
I'd say no way...what covenant are we breaking at our birth?..
Romans 4.15 and 5.13 Paul says where there is no law no sin is imputed...
Time 20. They rest. See the souls under the alter in Revelations. I agree we wait in the grave. Asleep in Christ. Waiting until all has completed. When time is no more. We will be awakened before those who remain are caught up with us. I agree with what you see in the scriptures on this resurrection. The first resurrection is the down payment. The resurrection of those asleep is to come into the presence of God for eternity after death and sorrow on earth is no more.
When there is time no more. “Let the righteous remain righteous, the unrighteous remain unrighteous” (Revelations) when no more man can receive the gospel, then the resurrection (the first) is past.
GOD´s Breath is Unique and is the Spirit of Everybody and Everything - he Breath in the Dust and it is.....
Col 2:12 " we are buried with Jesus and raised with him through faith". I have died with Christ, I have been buried with Christ and I have been raised with him to walk in newness of life, this was done when I was baptized in water for the forgiveness of my sins, Acts 2:38. As far as the resurrection goes, it says in 1 Cor 15 that we are raised a SPIRITUAL BODY.
""THIS" was done when we were "BAPTIZED IN HIS DEAD" (Rom 6:1-3) "NOT" in water
There is the resurrection from the dead, and there is the resurrection of the dead. The first is the first resurrection.
It's incredible to see people hold on to a view and shape the word of God around that view rather than to let the word of God interpret itself. Preterist belief is so full of logic holes it's incredible. Listening to this makes me see how dogged people are to hold to certain views rather than to let God show them. How could someone possible believe 70AD describes "For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be." I mean more people died on the Eastern Front in 1941 than in all the Roman Jewish wars put together...with our world heading to nuclear annihilation I don't understand how people could believe "The GREAT TRIBULATION" happened in a time period when the most deadly weapons were hand combat weapons.
The statement is a kind of hyperbole, other prophets used similar language for events that happened in the past so, the great tribulation was a great tribulation within the redemption history nothing could be worse than what happened that time when the temple was destroyed. You need to consider the covenantal elements, not merely the physical, besides Christ made it very clear it would happen in that generation. So should we believe or not in the words of the Lord? It indeed happened as he said.
Another point I think is that nothing like that happened again, the church did not come to the brink of extinction as it was that time. After that Christianity thrived like the sun taking over the world, with suffering and stress but nothing similar to that situation. Today there are orders of magnitude more Christians in the world than that time, and our city and kingdom is unshakable, so it is impossible for us to pass through a great tribulation of sorts.
@@abraao2213 70 AD wasn't about the church or persecution of the church specifically it was about the Roman-Jewish conflict. This "great tribulation" that God talks about is one so bad that He says He needs to intervene directly or no flesh would survive. That doesn't describe 70 AD and preterists have to stop using the "it's hyperbole" thing to cover every argument.
@user-rv9hp6bo3y yes it was about three conflict that engulfed the world, Christians were persecuted also greatly. The orophecy text talks about it also as we all know:Matthew 24:9 ESV
[9] “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake.
R.H. Charles comments that the phrase in Matthew 24:21 “is a stock eschatological expression. It is first found in Dan. xii.1; then in 1 Macc. ix.27; next in Ass. Mos. viii. 1, and subsequently in Rev. xvi. 18.” (R.H. Charles, A Critical History of the Doctrine of a Future Life in Israel, in Judaism, and in Christianity or Hebrew, Jewish, and Christian Eschatology from Pre-Prophetic Times till the Close of the New Testament Canon (London: Adam and Charles Black, 1899), 329, note 1.) Contrary to Charles, the phrase is used much earlier than its appearance in Daniel 12:1. His point, however, that the phrase “is a stock eschatological expression” is valid.
Could there have been two kings in the southern kingdom of Judah who were the greatest kings Judah ever had? Logic would dictate that there can only be one greatest king but any number of great kings. But the Bible tells us that there were two kings who were the “greatest.” How can this be?
· “He [Hezekiah] trusted in the LORD, the God of Israel; so that after him there was none like him among all the kings of Judah, nor among those who were before him” (2 Kings 18:5).
· “And before him [Josiah] **there was no king like him **who turned to the LORD with all his heart and with all his soul and with all his might, according to the law of Moses; nor did any like arise after him” (2 Kings 23:25).
Similar language is used to describe judgments brought on nations by God. Jesus follows this Hebrew method of stressing the impact of the calamity by using familiar hyperbole in Matthew 24:21.
· “There had never been so many locusts, nor would there be so many again” (Ex. 10:14; compare with Joel 1:1-4).
· “There shall be a great cry in all the land of Egypt, such as there has not been before and such as shall never be again” (Ex. 11:6).
· “And because of all your abominations, I will do among you what I have not done, and the like of which I will never do again” (Ezek. 5:9; compare with Matt. 24:21).
“For under the whole heaven there has not been done anything like what was done to Jerusalem” (Dan. 9:12; compare with 12:1).
“A day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and thick darkness. As the dawn is spread over the mountains, so there is a great and mighty people; there has never been anything like it, nor will there be again after it to the years of many generations” (Joel 2:2).
The futurist strategy is always to dismiss 70 AD as nothing at all, even through it is very clear that it was the expected thing to happen by the apostles and that were understood by them as the visible sign of Christ coming. The destruction of the temple and the punishment of that evil generation that killed the Lord and persecuted his saints was no little thing.
I think its possible when God said to Adam the day you eat from this tree you will surely die may not have meant spiritually die that moment . But rather His fate was sealed in his resurrection in AD70 . I say this because we need the spirit to stay alive in the body or how can the body live without a living spirit who gives life . Or maybe we can live without a living spirit or maybe we do have a living spirit but Gods spirit is absent in us .
in the day that you eat from it you shall surely die......
You state everyone mon from Adam had the Law. Adam was given a command but after being thrown out of the garden Cain and Abel and everyone after couldn't eat from the tree. God doesn't give any Law until Sinai so All in Noah's flood are not under law as I see it...Help me understand please
When he talks about the grave and Nubers 16:30 he says they go alive to Sheol with all their stuff and then just says that sounds like grave...so lets move on. C'mon right there he proves himself wrong and his brothers right...oh well men within the same church disagreeing, I guess that's ok in the eyes of the Lord
A semon on the resurrection of the dead by a preterits and nothing of the rest of the dead in revelation 20...oh maybe a blip in the questions section
Wish we had your church in Phoenix
We have a clear picture of the resurrection of the dead in the new testament. The resurrection of Lazarus with a shout. And, in the old testament we also have a prophetic picture of the dry bones coming back to life.
Very convincing argument. Makes better sense than dispensationalism. One problem I have is, if ressurection is not bodily, then how are the ones seen by many in the holy city in Matthew 27:53?
And they came out of the tombs after his resurrection, entered the holy city, and appeared to many.
I think it js not bodily in the sense of our current biological bodies. It is some kind of pneumatic body, like the angels have. So it is tangible but not made of matter. Because our bodies constantly change and are subject to corruption but pneumatic bodies are eternal, they never change.
They were raised back to life (like Lazarus) but not resurrected bodies.
Yahshua was the first fruit of the resurrection (first to receive a resurrected body)
At His return,
The dead in Messiah rise first,
Then those who are alive and remain.
Then - as He is, so we all shall be
The Bible says if you deny the bodily ressurection you are are heretic. Muslims believe in spiritual ressurection. They do not believe in the bodily ressurection of Jesus Christ or us-- either.
@@abraao2213Jesus ate with His ressurected body. That isn't pneumatic.
@@tatie7604 it doesn't mean he has a fleshly body now. He was taken into the clouds and is at the right Hand of Power. He is also as Paul says, the life giving Spirit, and He live WITHIN us, how so? Fleshly? Of course not. As Paul also says that He no longer know Christ in the flesh.