MoveShootMove - Star Tracker Review

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  • Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
  • The MoveShootMove Star Tracker is an excellent option for those looking for a lightweight star tracker. It's easy to use for beginners, and has great tracking accuracy even with a heavy camera and lens.
    Here's the bundle I recommend getting, which includes the laser pointer:
    www.moveshootmove.com/collect...
    For more information, check out my written review:
    www.peterzelinka.com/blog/201...
    Patreon:
    / peterzelinka

КОМЕНТАРІ • 253

  • @pluggednickels
    @pluggednickels 3 роки тому +62

    A note for those buying this tracker with the laser pointer
    When I purchased this I was not getting very good results with it at a bit longer focal lengths 50mm to 135mm and I couldn't figure out why. so on a hunch I used a higher end polemaster to polar align the tracker an the problem was solved
    come to find out the laser pointer that came with my unit was not accurate and had to be adjusted
    mine was way off and was the reason my polar alignment was way off when using the laser pointer for polar alignment
    To check and correct this I had to put the laser pointer in the mounting bracket and losely tighten it down but not so tight that you can't still spin the laser pointer in the bracket in a 360 degree circle as stable as you can
    you do need to use a good stable tripod to do this
    I pointed it at something land based I used my backyard fence about 25 or 30 yards away from it
    I then spun the laser pointer 360 degrees if the laser dot doesn't stay in the same place when spinning the pointer then you know your laser pointer is not aligned and will need to be adjusted with the alignment screws until the dot remains in the same place when spinning the pointer 360 degree
    at the 25 yards I tested mine at mine was way off almost 2 foot circle and was the reason I was not getting a good polar alignment with the laser and star trails
    once i got the pointer adjusted i was then getting the same results as when I polar aligned with the polemaster
    just a heads up for something you may need to check if you are not getting good results when going a bit longer on focal lengths
    I hope this info is useful

    • @JoshHarrisPhotography
      @JoshHarrisPhotography 3 роки тому

      Have you found there to be any difference in quality of alignment based on where along the tracker you attach the pointer? Should it be as close to the center? It can't be aligned with the center of the rotating plate because the clamp won't fit there.

    • @skeppsbrogatan
      @skeppsbrogatan Рік тому

      You should make a UA-cam tutorial for that. Thanks for sharing the information.

  • @FiZ
    @FiZ 4 роки тому +14

    Thanks for the great review on the MSM tracker. I just got mine last week, and you'll be happy to know that the screw they sent me has a raised kind of stopper in the middle of the thread to keep it from sinking into either the tracker or the head.

  • @tommyrecyclence8233
    @tommyrecyclence8233 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this video I cannot tell you how helpful it was.
    I am a science teacher and budding astronomer who has been struggling with getting what I'm seeing from the eyepiece into a usable photograph to share with my students and family.
    I've been shopping and trying to find the right mount without breaking the bank; this seems like just the ticket. I have the complete kit on the way but I'm sure I only need about half of what's in there to get started but I didn't want to go back in a la carte the other items after I figured out that I needed them.
    Thanks again for your great channel and the information that you share with us.
    On a side note you might have the most pleasant voice I've ever heard. If you're looking for a side gig, I could use you a few nights a week to read to my kids lol.
    Clear skies.

  • @muchoCakes1
    @muchoCakes1 Рік тому

    Thanks for the review, Peter. I just ordered my MSM Start Tracker for my upcoming trip to a dark sky zone in my neck of the world. Can't wait to play around with it.

  • @mrpaulobrien
    @mrpaulobrien 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks Peter, good honest review, I am starting out with the MSM tracker and seem to get hit and miss results. When it has worked it has been really good but in some shots I seem to still get trails. I think it may come down to some element in my 2 ball head and star-tracker arca plate loosening. It is light but you do need another ball head mount as well compared with someone that simply stacks 8 images in starry landscape stacker /sequator, so there is that extra weight to carry. Also the polar alignment laser can run out of battery easily and is not easy to recharge in the field. keep up the informative tutorials.

  • @Mackymcd
    @Mackymcd 4 роки тому

    Just purchased for Christmas. I will be following the stars like the three wise men lol. Thanks for the review

    • @bloodsthicker5651
      @bloodsthicker5651 4 роки тому

      The three stars of Orion line up with Sirius and point to the birth of a new sun on the 25th of December ✌🏻

  • @bernym4047
    @bernym4047 3 роки тому

    Excellently produced review. Thanks.

  • @phardiman84
    @phardiman84 4 роки тому

    It's nice to see another company getting into the tracker market. Astro has quickly become very accessible with the tech in today's cameras. While not critical to wide-angle landscape astro work, it's great that an affordable option is now out there for a tracker.

  • @justkyle518
    @justkyle518 3 роки тому

    Hahaha Mt. Jo!!! Awesome! An hour from where I live. This might be a good budget/ weight option for me for shooting in the ADKs in remote locations. Thanks for this dude

  • @dustinschwartzmeyer2340
    @dustinschwartzmeyer2340 4 роки тому +1

    Great video Peter! I just shot the MW from Mount Jo in July with the iOptron Skytracker Pro. Might try Orion from there this winter.

  • @Wheeljack678
    @Wheeljack678 4 роки тому +3

    Late to the party but... Great video, great review straight to the point. This review, along with Alyn Wallaces made me order the MSM as my first star-tracker.

    • @L_M_C
      @L_M_C 4 роки тому

      Same here. Saw Alyn's video but wanted to make sure others had good experiences with the MSM before buying one and I'm glad to see Peter rates it too.

  • @akidobos
    @akidobos 4 роки тому

    Great review, thank you! I have my copy about 2 month ago. This screw thing is suck indeed. It came with 2 screws and I just put both of them in to the ball head and it's all good now.

  • @AstroQuest1
    @AstroQuest1 4 роки тому

    Nice review Peter. I have seen these advertised on FB. It looks pretty handy.

  • @rbaynosa
    @rbaynosa 4 роки тому

    great review. ive hd mine since june but hvent gotten around to using it yet. excited to try it with my micro four thirds system.

  • @jongrall
    @jongrall 4 роки тому +3

    Great review, Peter! I'll probably buy this once they fix the screw attachment issue.

    • @tgconnell
      @tgconnell 4 роки тому

      I would have just dropped a BB or a .177 lead pellet down in there to effectively stop the screw from just going deeper. Ordered mine several hours ago so I'm glad to hear of the upgrades. TC in Georgia

  • @jackdeangelis6585
    @jackdeangelis6585 4 роки тому +9

    Good review, Peter. Looks like they have significantly improved the design from the original MSM of a couple years ago. I use a laser with a barn-door tracker and agree that it is quick, easy and accurate. I would caution folks however to be careful not to use it if there are airplanes in the area or if you are near an airport. My rule of thumb is if I can see or hear a plane I wait until it leaves the area. Also, do you counter-weight your tripod? I've found that I need to hang my camera bag on the tripod so that it hangs opposite the camera/lens otherwise the whole rigs tips slightly (polar align AFTER hanging the bag).

  • @cristianwrbka
    @cristianwrbka 4 роки тому +3

    You can use the laser trough the polarscope of the ioptron skyguider pro, I use it that way in my and work fine and quick aligment

  • @iancar29
    @iancar29 4 роки тому +2

    Totally agree about the weight being great for hiking purposes and would probably consider getting one for that too, but I've been using the laser method with all my ioptron trackers to date. It's not only coming into play because of the MSM. Looks like a handy kit overall but wouldn't put anything more than a 50mm lens on it with a full frame camera.

  • @DavidRosenfield
    @DavidRosenfield 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the review! I'm considering this product for its portability and robustness.
    I have a Sky Watcher tracker that allows me to do 60 second exposures at 600mm with no trails, but it's incredibly fiddly to align, and requires Wifi just to start and stop. A laser sight is not going to be precise enough for exposures like that. I need to align to the precise offset of Polaris for my local time. I would love to see a review of this product at those kinds of focal lengths using an aligning scope.

  • @john-okc450
    @john-okc450 4 роки тому +1

    For those concerned with aviation, Up to 5mW Laser is legal in the US, the MSM pointer is 1mW. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lasers_and_aviation_safety shows an example and you have to be within 1500 feet with a 5mW & pointed horizontally to really cause problems.

  • @kristiankaraneshev7528
    @kristiankaraneshev7528 4 роки тому

    Great review. I was wandering if I want to do multi row pano with 50mm (lets say around 60 images in total), I need to get another ball head?

  • @eliasrws1924
    @eliasrws1924 3 роки тому

    Good video! Nice review 👌🏼

  • @ivarhusa454
    @ivarhusa454 3 роки тому

    I recently created a tool similar to that used to polar align this tracker. I use a Starguider Pro with the Williams base.Rubber band it to the clamp, then pick up and move the feet to where the laser is pretty close. Then finish the adjustment with the base. (Sorry for the non MSM intrusion. They had a good idea.)

  • @muleyg
    @muleyg 3 роки тому +1

    Great video. As a would be beginner in astro photography, what are the basic essential components that I would need to start taking photos and videos?

  • @icogicog8287
    @icogicog8287 3 роки тому

    Awaiting for the delivery of the one I just bought. I was wondering if it would be possible to attach the laser and the polar scope at the same time to the unit if I get a second attachment? It may facilitate further the polar alignment by making Polaris more visible in the scope?

  • @garymyers472
    @garymyers472 4 роки тому

    Any issues with parallax using the laser pointer or is looking over the top of the tracker close enough?

  • @jongrall
    @jongrall 4 роки тому +1

    Looks like MoveShootMove fixed the screw attachment issue that you mentioned. Product shots now show a slightly different screw attachment piece that has a center flange that ensures the screw is inserted evenly into the device and your ballhead.

  • @JohnSmith-qc6bq
    @JohnSmith-qc6bq 4 роки тому

    Hello Peter, thank you for the informative review. I am thinking of purchasing this item. Can you confirm for me, that with the use of this laser pointer, I would not need the use of any apps to adjust the tracker. Thank you.

  • @MuwexTech
    @MuwexTech 4 роки тому

    Think I will go with that bundle!

  • @ThePleoni
    @ThePleoni 4 роки тому

    i see that in your video you use the narrow side of the tracker on the tripod mount and the flat side to mount your camera. I just got mine delivered yesterday. I was planning on using the wedge onto the tripod and the RRS BC-18 Micro Ball to mount the camera onto the Move Shoot Move. But it comes with the smaller screw so was hoping it will work by putting the camera on the narrow side and then mounting the MSM flat onto the wedge. do you think this will work? I am a bit confused that there are multiple ways of doing things

  • @Mr09260
    @Mr09260 3 роки тому

    Peter Which Star do I need to locate the to align in the Southern Hemisphere as you do with the Polar Star in the N Hemisphere

  • @willylemay5130
    @willylemay5130 3 роки тому

    Good review. I just received my MSM unit and have not used it yet. Trying to figure what other equipment I need. Looks like an Intervalometer is a necessity. My question: Seeing as the intervalometer controls the camera, don't you have to connect the included sync cord from the camera hotshoe to the MSM unit to trigger that? Your setup doesn't show that. Thanks.

  • @Sergey_Sergeev
    @Sergey_Sergeev 4 роки тому

    Is the plate removable from the startracker?

  • @DLMVegas
    @DLMVegas Рік тому

    I've had one of these for a few months now. Short of using a hammer and pliers to tighten things down this thing is wobbly in various areas. Only tried it with a Nikon D810 and 14-24mm Nikkor lens. Going back to my Adventurer 2i.

  • @matttoplitzky8344
    @matttoplitzky8344 4 роки тому

    Hey Peter! Is a counterweight needed for this? I just ordered mine and will be using with a Canon 6D and Samyang 135mm lens? Or is a counterweight not necessary? Thank you for solid review and making it very easy to understand!

  • @blueastrophotography6131
    @blueastrophotography6131 3 роки тому

    Hii
    Great video! I just bought the MSM and had a cullman nanomax 400t tripod. The payload capacity is just 2-2.5kg so maybe it’s not sturdy enough. I have tested the msm and with my 10mm i’m not getting more than 2 mins without getting moved stars. I guess it’s due to the tripod cause I calibrated my laser pointer and also used it to point polaris, as well as balance the tripod. Should I get a more sturdy tripod like the benro go plus?
    Thanks

  • @alioth5837
    @alioth5837 3 роки тому

    did you get the Starlink satellites at your milky way shoots??

  • @muleyg
    @muleyg 3 роки тому

    Do you need a laser pointer with the MoveShootMove tracker to point to the Polar star or is there another to achieve this?

  • @AnkitGupta12
    @AnkitGupta12 3 роки тому

    How long can you expose for stars without getting star trails if you use
    laser and if you use polar scope at longer focal length?actually I am confused should i get a polar scope or a laser pointer?

  • @trevtreloar1449
    @trevtreloar1449 4 роки тому +13

    Great review, here in Australia we face two problems.
    1 No north star ( yep that old chestnut) .
    2 You're unable to legally import the laser .

    • @matty74123
      @matty74123 4 роки тому +1

      I have imported lasers before you just have to have a good reason to have a laser over 1 mw such as astronomy www.police.nsw.gov.au/services/firearms/permits/prohibited_weapon_permits?a=136099

    • @grayfoxv
      @grayfoxv 4 роки тому

      @@matty74123 If you purchase this Move shoot move kit with the laser, will they ship to Aus?

    • @matty74123
      @matty74123 4 роки тому +1

      Azonic you should be fine I’ve imported lasers before, plus you have a legitimate reason to posses a laser, it comes with the kit so I d order it nothing to worry about

    • @grayfoxv
      @grayfoxv 4 роки тому

      @@matty74123 THanks for the response, good to know! Though come to think of it I dont know how useful this laser would actually be in the southern hemisphere as we need to use Sigma octans to work out polar alignment. Could it be done do you think?

    • @felipeleon_astrofotos
      @felipeleon_astrofotos 4 роки тому

      @@grayfoxv In the user manual, the laser method is shown only for northern hemisphere. For Southern Hemisphere, it says you'll need to mount your smartphone into the MSM tracker and use an app with night AR mode.

  • @JLingafelt
    @JLingafelt 3 роки тому

    I just purchased the move shoot move tracker and had a question. After I purchased it I got a notification that I actually need a 2nd ball head. You said something about needing an Swiss plate. I don’t even have a tripod yet, so it there a tripod/ball head that you would recommend and one that has a Swiss plate?

  • @kowalskik.1333
    @kowalskik.1333 Рік тому

    Hi, I am wondering why you use the laser pointer but not the polarscope for polar alignment. How precise is the laser pointer?

  • @DaveM-mp6yu
    @DaveM-mp6yu 2 роки тому

    The laser pointer can be used through the polar scope to align any tracker. This works with refractor telescope.

  • @benjaminberger9629
    @benjaminberger9629 4 роки тому

    You can use a screwdriver to keep the screw from rotating. I don't know if the new version has the hole in the back, where you can access the screw from behind.. the old version does :)
    By the way, I don't think the tracker lasts for 5 hours. As far as I remember - after about 2 hours of use, the tracker started to not track reliably. I assume this is battery related since it didn't get out of alignment and everything was screwed tightly together.

  • @taskhunters5245
    @taskhunters5245 4 роки тому

    Hey!! Will they ship this in to uk?

  • @andershyden
    @andershyden 4 роки тому +5

    Nice review, thanks! Regarding the battery life, wouldn't it be possible to power it through a portable battery pack?

    • @Zenshu1
      @Zenshu1 3 роки тому +1

      Yes, it infact can run while charging so you can plug it into a portable power bank or whatever and run it from that.

  • @Rahulsmanral
    @Rahulsmanral 3 роки тому

    Hi Peter, do you think a nikon 70-200 f/4 with a d750 could be mounted on the MSM ? essentially to shoot around between 70mm-100mm ?

  • @jbrisby
    @jbrisby 3 роки тому

    How do you know when your laser pointer is pointed at Polaris?

  • @roadshoulderphotography683
    @roadshoulderphotography683 2 роки тому

    I'm a little confused. Never did a tracker. So once you align the tracker to Polaris, you can then aim the camera anywhere in the sky to start shooting ? Milky way, any star formation ? I am correct in assuming that ?

  • @MrCatovic
    @MrCatovic 3 роки тому

    What kind od mount is this? Can you provide a link to it?

  • @fernandoisidoromalmoria8848
    @fernandoisidoromalmoria8848 4 роки тому

    Hi Peter. Thank you for sharing your tutorials. I would like to ask you a question, do you use astro-modified cameras? Thank you

  • @videoman77365
    @videoman77365 3 роки тому

    What is the difference in cost of the Move Shoot Move Rotator and the SkyGuider Pro Camera Mount?

  • @tjaty2008
    @tjaty2008 4 роки тому

    Great review Peter. Just one question regarding alignment. I understand that the laser alignment is great for wide lenses, but what about for 200\300mm lenses? - As we are zooming in, is the laser alignment good enough or we should use the polar scope for a more accurate alignment?
    Thank you

    • @PeterZelinka
      @PeterZelinka  4 роки тому

      You would definitely want to use a polar scope at that focal length. Also, if the lens is heavy enough to require a tripod collar, I would be cautious using it with the MSM tracker.

  • @andrewhube2989
    @andrewhube2989 2 роки тому

    I’m looking at getting into astrophotography and this product. However I live in Australia. Can I use it in the Southern Hemisphere and how would you polar align.

  • @bharedotnet
    @bharedotnet 4 роки тому

    Any thoughts on whether you could simply shine a similar laser center-aligned through the scope of the SkyGuider Pro to get polar alignment? or perhaps remove the polar alignment scope for the SGP and somehow mount a laser in its place?

    • @PeterZelinka
      @PeterZelinka  4 роки тому +1

      I tried attaching the laser pointer to the SkyGuider Pro, even just holding it on top of it, but it was a bit of a pain. I suppose you could rubber band a laser pointer to the top of a tracker, and that would work. I didn't try shining it through the polar scope yet, I'll try that tomorrow night!

  • @Fulvus91
    @Fulvus91 4 роки тому

    This a great review, but I have a question: do I need a leveling base in order to use the star tracker? My tripod has no accurate leveling system, so I dont have any leveling method at the moment.
    Thank you!

    • @PeterZelinka
      @PeterZelinka  4 роки тому

      No, that's not necessary. As long as the tripod is fairly level, you'll be okay

  • @matej.mlakar
    @matej.mlakar 4 роки тому

    Peter, could you test Omegon LX3 too?

  • @user-qn5bo8ut9s
    @user-qn5bo8ut9s 4 роки тому

    Can't I buy it now?to do something with star tracker

  • @mikeries8549
    @mikeries8549 4 роки тому

    Just spent some time researching this device.
    The range of temps that it is operational is between 32 and 104F. If it's freezing cold the batteries start acting funny and that's where your errors happen.

  • @kushnarenkoa1990
    @kushnarenkoa1990 4 роки тому

    Hi Peter! thank you for your videos. If you shoot at home what will you choose for session: iOptron SkyGuider Pro or MoveShootMove? And why. Thanks

    • @PeterZelinka
      @PeterZelinka  4 роки тому +1

      I rarely shoot from home, since there's a lot of light pollution. If I do shoot around here, it's usually deep space astro with a big telephoto lens. Therefore, I'd use the SkyGuider Pro.

  • @alejandro_mery
    @alejandro_mery 4 роки тому +3

    nice office you got Peter ;-)

  • @bt10ant
    @bt10ant 4 роки тому +9

    Peter: Can you still use the MSM while recharging the battery? Thanks.

    • @andyleclerc200
      @andyleclerc200 3 роки тому +5

      yes you can, I ran into situation when it was to cold so I plugged a power bank to the rotater, works like a charm.

  • @LoadedFan97
    @LoadedFan97 4 роки тому

    Hey Peter, great video! Do you think this tracker is capable of handling a 6d with the sigma 14mm f1.8 ?

    • @PeterZelinka
      @PeterZelinka  4 роки тому

      Yeah, should be. It can handle my D750 + 14-24mm which is over 4lbs total

  • @hallrmt
    @hallrmt 3 роки тому

    Peter, i live in south america, i have no vision of Polaris, how do i align since in the south we don’t have a star that marks the south?

  • @ilsuocavallopazzo
    @ilsuocavallopazzo 2 роки тому

    How it work on cold temperatures?

  • @nerminhuskic7182
    @nerminhuskic7182 4 роки тому

    I had so much trouble while ordering this. They didn't want to send it with normal post, so they said they will send it with DHL for free. Later they wanted to sell me a laser also, which I didn't want and I refused. After 2 days again they contacted me saying I should pay $36 for DHL. After that I decided enough is enough refund me, which they did. Now thinking about some other tracker Sightron nano or Omegon mini track lx 3.

  • @gilvelosoferreira9386
    @gilvelosoferreira9386 4 роки тому

    is everything we saw in this video included in the bundle, except from th tripod?

  • @manderson1638
    @manderson1638 4 роки тому

    Mt jo! Great spot! Great video!

  • @fangioli
    @fangioli 3 роки тому

    Hi Peter Zelinka, how do you align in the southern hemisphere?

  • @kamilkp
    @kamilkp 4 роки тому

    Really considering getting this tracker to step up my landscape astro shots. Do you think it wouldn't be possible to mount a Canon EOS R with EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6L IS (total weight 3,7 lbs) if I wanna try deep space? I have a tripod bracket for this lens so the center of mass of the setup is very close to the tripod mounting point.

    • @PeterZelinka
      @PeterZelinka  4 роки тому

      You can give it a shot. That setup sounds like it should work okay. You may notice star trails relatively quickly (30 seconds at 300mm). I get star trails with my bigger SkyGuider Pro after about 30 seconds at 400mm+
      You should still be able to get some great shots though, especially with that EOS R

    • @kamilkp
      @kamilkp 4 роки тому

      I’m leaning towards iOptron SkyTracker. Looks like a more solid option

    • @PeterZelinka
      @PeterZelinka  4 роки тому

      @@kamilkp Yeah, that will work too! I used the SkyTracker Pro for a few years. It never gave me any trouble with a D750 and 14-24mm lens. Don't buy the counterweight kit for the SkyTracker Pro though. It's a bad design and a pain in the butt to use.

    • @kamilkp
      @kamilkp 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah I saw your video and complaints about the counterweight kit. Thanks!

  • @jakelindsay6251
    @jakelindsay6251 4 роки тому

    Peter, thank you very much for this. I'm going to snag this right away. Two questions - the first is very lame/basic/newbie...
    1) After you have completed Polar Alignment - you attach your camera and then can compose your shot anywhere you like, correct? I'm just trying to envision how you get the composition you want. I think that's correct anyway.
    2) I have a Batis 135 2.8 that comes in really lightweight at just over 600 grams. Any issues using something like that for deeper sky objects?

    • @PeterZelinka
      @PeterZelinka  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, although I recommend double checking the polar alignment after you've attached your camera gear. It's possible things can move around a bit, and throw off the alignment.
      Once everything is attached, I move the camera around and take test photos until I get a good composition. Then I begin taking my photos.
      That lens should work, but there will be a few problems with using a telephoto focal length. First, the laser pointer polar alignment isn't as accurate as a polar scope. Therefore, you will notice star trails sooner. Instead of shooting 2 minutes, you might only be able to get 1 minute exposures. Not a big deal, but you'll want to stack photos together to reduce noise.
      Also, as Alan commented on this video, you may see some occasional tracking errors. I've noticed the same problems with much larger and more expensive trackers. Basically, some of your photos might be blurry for no obvious reason. This is because the internal gears and things aren't precisely built and occasionally run into "hiccups". So, if you notice that 3 of 10 photos are randomly blurry, that could be the culprit. This problem is much more noticable at telephoto focal lengths.
      Hope that helps! I'd also recommend checking out my Patreon which goes into a lot more depth on my shooting process. Should save you some headaches in the field and on the computer.

    • @nervenerd
      @nervenerd 2 роки тому

      I think "anywhere you like" is an exaggeration, since the ball head can only be moved over less than a 180 degree range - and much of that range is below the horizon because the tracker is tilted.You can gain more room by also rotating the ball around the tracker axis, but the combination of movements needed (and coordinating the loosening of the 2 required screws without the camera flopping) is rather tricky. You'll note that the video doesn't actually show the most difficult step -actually pointing the camera where you want it, in the dark and possibly with multiple cables attached.

  • @yervantparnagian5999
    @yervantparnagian5999 3 роки тому

    Another great informative video added to your arsenal of great work. A quick question: Why not just mount a laser pointer on the top of the Skyguider Pro before attaching a camera? Would that work just as well to get polar alignment?

    • @PeterZelinka
      @PeterZelinka  3 роки тому +1

      I've tried it, and the laser was pointed too high up. You could always shine a laser through the polar scope though, that works well!

    • @yervantparnagian5999
      @yervantparnagian5999 3 роки тому

      @@PeterZelinka Thank you!

  • @nickspics6130
    @nickspics6130 4 роки тому +3

    I received my MSM a few days ago and the screw for mounting the ball head onto the tracker now has a collar at the middle so it can’t screw in too far.

    • @MrXL
      @MrXL 4 роки тому

      Nickspics agree! They seemed to have solved this.

  • @Madmax-kz6yq
    @Madmax-kz6yq 4 роки тому

    After polar alignment using the laser, I just turn it on and it will start tracking?

  • @simonleung1027
    @simonleung1027 4 роки тому

    Looks perfect for a beginner like me! Am I correct in thinking that you can also skip leveling your tripod for this?

    • @chriswilkinson8062
      @chriswilkinson8062 4 роки тому +1

      Your tripod could be upside down, but so long as the axis of rotation of the tracker is aligned with a celestial pole you'll be fine :)

  • @Googaliemoogalie
    @Googaliemoogalie 3 роки тому

    That dotted movement in your picture, is that a satellite? Or the ISS or something? Looks really focused

  • @cdh79
    @cdh79 4 роки тому +4

    with the laser pointer you have to be really careful in areas with a lot of airplane activity in the area..
    people have been imprisoned for shining laser pointer at aircrafts, as it does distract pilots and can be pretty dangerous, so be really careful of the surrounding when pointing a laser-pointer into the sky

    • @PeterZelinka
      @PeterZelinka  4 роки тому

      Great point!

    • @john-okc450
      @john-okc450 4 роки тому +2

      Up to 5mW is legal in US, the MSM pointer is 1mW.

    • @cdh79
      @cdh79 4 роки тому

      @@john-okc450 thanks, that's good to know..
      this might then be more affecting when travelling to other countries (especially given its size), or for buyers outside the US.

  • @OceanLlamaMedia
    @OceanLlamaMedia 4 роки тому

    Go to the Kessler crane store and search for “flat mount adapter” should work way better than the included screw to attach a ball head to.

  • @HansHoop
    @HansHoop 4 роки тому

    What is the maximum weight of the camera? I have the Nikon D850 with the MB18 batterygrip and a Sigma 24-70 Art lens. The total weight will be about 2,5 kg. Will the MSM be able to work with it?

    • @PeterZelinka
      @PeterZelinka  4 роки тому +1

      You'd really be pushing it to the limits, and I doubt you'd get good results. I always recommend removing battery grips when using star trackers though. They are unnecessary and cause more problems than anything.

  • @stevepham6840
    @stevepham6840 3 роки тому

    Quick question to all who own the MSM. I just got mine, when I turn it on, I can hear the squeaky gears moving and sometimes grinding. Is that normal? Any help on this is greatly appreciated.

    • @JoshHarrisPhotography
      @JoshHarrisPhotography 3 роки тому

      When I turn mine on, it sounds like a cross between a ticking clock and crickets chirping.

  • @carlosmiret35
    @carlosmiret35 Рік тому

    is it possible to take deep sky astrophotography photos?

  • @ishaan90
    @ishaan90 4 роки тому

    How bout polar aligning for other star trackers by adding a laser to point at polaris?

    • @joeshmoe7967
      @joeshmoe7967 4 роки тому +1

      I might just play a round with that idea, with my star adventurer. Realize though polaris is NOT the true polar axis so this will only work for wide field shots. But it may still speed up the process, by getting close alignment quickly and then a few extra moments
      to dial things in when shooting with telephoto or small telescope.

  • @MrCobber04
    @MrCobber04 4 роки тому +1

    i wonder if the lazer pointer will work well in the southern hemisphere since the polar south is much more fainter and harder to find then the bright Polaris.

    • @PeterZelinka
      @PeterZelinka  4 роки тому

      It would not be ideal, most likely. I believe I mentioned that in the written review, that it might be better to opt for the polar scope if you live in the Southern Hemisphere. Regardless which method you go with though, you're in for a more difficult time due to the lack of a bright pole star.
      I'd recommend reading this helpful article from Lincoln Harrison, who illustrates a good way to find the SCP:
      www.lincolnharrison.com/blog-index/southern-hemisphere-polar-alignment

  • @voederbietels
    @voederbietels 3 роки тому

    i had 2 from this trackers . both went broke. the motor just quit . now i use the lx3

  • @akkarparkiamopas3401
    @akkarparkiamopas3401 4 роки тому

    In stead of using Intervalometer , Can we use stopwatch in combination with wireless shutter release? For example, we wanna do 10 images of sky for stacking/ 120 secs exposure for each image. we just use stopwatch counts start and stop approx. 120 sec consecutively.

    • @PeterZelinka
      @PeterZelinka  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, that's the way I used to do it, and it worked fine.
      It just makes things easier if you have an intervalometer remote that does it all automatically.

    • @akkarparkiamopas3401
      @akkarparkiamopas3401 4 роки тому

      Peter Zelinka thanks for your recommendation. Coz Once we use star tracker , the short pause time between shot would not be an issue unlike when we take multiple milky way images without star tracker and then process in sequator. Am I right?

  • @joeshmoe7967
    @joeshmoe7967 4 роки тому +2

    I don't think my Star Adventurer is too heavy to hike with, its my tripod that would kill me. LOL! I am looking for a solution with a lighter yet still sturdy enough way o use the tracker.
    Battery wise, is there a way to use an external battery through the charging port? I use an external rechargeable for the Star Adventurer and basically have unlimited tracking. Cheers

    • @Zenshu1
      @Zenshu1 3 роки тому

      Yes, you can use it while it is plugged into a power source.

  • @shupingyin8082
    @shupingyin8082 2 місяці тому

    After polar aligned, tripod should not be moved, true or not? New to MSM

  • @Bazzasphotolife
    @Bazzasphotolife 4 роки тому

    I don't need an external intervelometer if I can set my camera to 4 min random a 2 sec timer (Fuji xt3), do I?

    • @PeterZelinka
      @PeterZelinka  4 роки тому

      Nope, if you can do a 4 minute exposure in-camera, and it has a built-in intervalometer, you don't need a remote

    • @Bazzasphotolife
      @Bazzasphotolife 4 роки тому +1

      @@PeterZelinka Thanks for taking the time to respond, Peter. I wrote MSM and asked the following question: "If my camera has an internal intervelometer, do I need an external one that you offer for my fujifilm X-T3?
      " and the answer I received was: "For your fujifilm X-T3, yes, you need one external intervalometer, due to Fujifilm's hot shoe do not have the shutter close signal.
      " I am a bit confused by all this. Just wanted to note it all here for others that are interested. Seems like a great product as you have stated.

  • @end_theinflu
    @end_theinflu 8 місяців тому

    Hi, I read in several reviews that if you want to use a focal length above 50mm, don't buy it. I have a 75mm 1.2 lens for astrophotography. And my question is, won't it really handle a 75mm lens for Orion or the Milky Way? :) Thank you

  • @gabewrsewell
    @gabewrsewell 4 роки тому +1

    You should also take a look at the Omegon MiniTrack LX2, it's a beautifully made, entirely mechanical star tracker that's also very lightweight and portable!It's also way more inexpensive than even this one, I think it's another great option for backpackers and travellers on a budget, especially considering it'll never run out of batteries.

    • @geonerd
      @geonerd 4 роки тому +1

      Indeed! Please review the Egg Timer Tracker! :)

    • @gabewrsewell
      @gabewrsewell 4 роки тому

      geonerd hahahaha it sounded far more egg-timer-like than I expected when I first used it

    • @anzaeria
      @anzaeria 2 роки тому

      The LX2 looked promising but it turned out to be a lot more expensive than I originally thought it was going to be. One one site, it was selling for about AU$400.

  • @pupperemeritus9189
    @pupperemeritus9189 4 роки тому

    I currently have a pan and tilt head non removable type tripod, can i use it with this tracker.

    • @PeterZelinka
      @PeterZelinka  4 роки тому

      As long as you can angle the MSM up to the North Star, then you should be able to. I'd recommend upgrading that tripod eventually to something more robust though.

    • @pupperemeritus9189
      @pupperemeritus9189 4 роки тому

      @@PeterZelinka which tracker would you recommend to me. I use a sony a6300 with sigma 16mm f1.4 , sony 55-210 zoom lens ,Helios 44m4 and the kit lens

    • @PeterZelinka
      @PeterZelinka  4 роки тому

      @@pupperemeritus9189 The MSM would be a good choice, or the SkyTracker Pro

  • @WayneLouie
    @WayneLouie 4 роки тому +1

    Can it be used and charged at the same time?

  • @chriswilkinson8062
    @chriswilkinson8062 4 роки тому

    An interesting looking option, although Peter you mention you wouldn't recommend using a 70-200 lens with this tracker? It has a max recommended weight of 3kg, and I have an old Minolta 80-200/2.8 which combined with my Sony A7S + battery grip + A-mount adaptor + ball heads would weigh approx 2.4kg all up. I also have a Sony 135mm STF (a ridiculously sharp lens) which I wish to try sometime, and the total weight with that on the A7S would be around 1.8kg. If the manufacturer is going to recommend 3kg maximum, then I would hope that 3kg is well within the capability of the tracker without stressing the motor etc.

    • @PeterZelinka
      @PeterZelinka  4 роки тому

      It's mainly due to the fact that there's no counterweight system. You'd also want to get the polar scope so you have an accurate enough polar alignment (the laser is mainly good for wide angle). I've seen people use big lenses with this tracker, like a 70-200mm, but I would rather be safe than sorry.

    • @chriswilkinson8062
      @chriswilkinson8062 4 роки тому

      @@PeterZelinka if a counterweight could be added that would reduce the max weight of camera/lens carried, so has its own disadvantages. Perhaps if the MSM is a success its designers will consider a similar but larger version capable of carrying heavier payloads and with counterweight. All a moot point for now until the covid-19 crisis eases, hoping everyone is keeping safe and well.

  • @rodrigoalgarawoodhouse2314
    @rodrigoalgarawoodhouse2314 4 роки тому

    Great Video! Have you ever done a review of the Vixen Polarie?

    • @PeterZelinka
      @PeterZelinka  4 роки тому

      No, I've only used the Polarie once. I will say that I was not impressed, it was lacking a lot of the features that virtually every other tracker has, and all the accessories seemed very overpriced.

    • @richards3192
      @richards3192 4 роки тому

      @@PeterZelinka I'd like to see your review of the Omegon LX3. I notice you have ignored most of the comments on that model, is there a reason for this?

  • @hornwijaya5033
    @hornwijaya5033 2 роки тому +1

    Cool Peter, one question though, does it always rely on Polaris? Because I am in the Southern Hemisphere, and I don't think we could see Polaris. Thanks

    • @kalef1234
      @kalef1234 2 роки тому

      That's a good point...i would hope the polar scope OPTION has the proper stuff. But the easy laser pointer method is probably just northern hemisphere

    • @hornwijaya5033
      @hornwijaya5033 2 роки тому +1

      @@kalef1234 I researched more and I believe it does support Southern Hemisphere tracking, just that there's no "south star", instead have to rely on its neighbouring star to get the centre, quite faint too. Not as straight forward as North Star. Will check it out when I receive mine. :)

    • @kalef1234
      @kalef1234 2 роки тому

      @@hornwijaya5033 Interesting. What country do you live in? I'm super jealous of the southern hemisphere's night sky

    • @hornwijaya5033
      @hornwijaya5033 2 роки тому

      @@kalef1234 Australia, Mate :)

    • @kalef1234
      @kalef1234 2 роки тому

      @@hornwijaya5033 awww man so much dark sky there! Have a blast.

  • @malamadrem9522
    @malamadrem9522 4 роки тому

    Hi Peter! I was on a fence between "SkyGuider" and "Sky-Watcher Star Adventurer" but both of them have some funny stuff... In SkyGuider later you have to invest some money to replace a Equatorial Wedge Base and buy a ball head for wide shooting and Sky-Watcher kind of clumsy with cover of battery and mode dial...So at the end they are looking big for me and me as a beginner to shoot stars I'm looking for something smaller with mine mirrorless camera Z6 ... MSM!? hmm but again investment to the ball head and Equatorial Base and etc. What about that semi Japanese/German star tracker like "Slik ECH 630 Astro Tracker"/"Bresser Startracker PM-100" which I actually order ) and almost no review in UA-cam at all for it... I'll open my youtube channel with it )))) hehe

  • @tallaganda83
    @tallaganda83 3 роки тому

    I wonder how it goes for us Southern Hemisphere shooters?

  • @astro_che
    @astro_che 4 роки тому

    You should have a look at the NYX tracker. Not much content for it on YT

  • @anzaeria
    @anzaeria 2 роки тому

    So I'm guessing that in the Southern Hemisphere, polar alignment with this device is going to be much, much harder. I could see that a laser pointer would be useless over here on this part of the world (for alignment.) I think the best I could do is use a compass for the rotation and then work out the required amount of tilt. That would give me very rough polar alignment so likely, I wouldn't get anywhere near the exposure times that your getting.

  • @richardgrudzien2798
    @richardgrudzien2798 4 роки тому +15

    Great video, Peter. For us in the southern hemisphere, however, its laser pointer is useless. No pole star, only the 5th magnitude star sigma octantis :(

    • @pupperemeritus9189
      @pupperemeritus9189 4 роки тому +1

      No big deal most of us in the northern hemisphere have to deal with class 9 bortle sky and polaris is kinda not visible

    • @scarpography
      @scarpography 4 роки тому

      @@pupperemeritus9189 facts

    • @pupperemeritus9189
      @pupperemeritus9189 4 роки тому

      @@scarpography how coincidental. I literally saw polaris few minutes ago like for the first time in 10 years of my 16 year life.

    • @pupperemeritus9189
      @pupperemeritus9189 4 роки тому

      @@scarpography first world problems I guess