The one common denominator I've noticed of all these exotic slug shells is they almost never behave like you would imagine sitting on the bench, when slowed down (film that is), some that looked very aerodynamic often tumbles while others that look like a brick will travel very accurately. Very interesting. Thanks for posting these.
Thanks for this video, it's much appreciated as we can get these loaded by Challenger in Quebec here in Canada, but the Brenneke have been either unavailable or $4-$5 a shot when we do find them. We live in rural BC where there's no shortage of bears. When we go up the mountains behind the house our standard progression of bear discouraging devices is good spray followed by a short barreled 12 gauge loaded with Gualandi slugs. Thanks again for the good video sir.
I believe I'm in error stating the Challenger is the 1 3/8 oz, it's the 11/8 oz I see on the box. Would love to find some of the 1 3/8 oz to load on this side of the medicine line. Sorry for the error and thanks again for the great videos
2:48 He lifted the barrel before pulling the trigger. That's what caused the too-high strike, not the external ballistics. (I think he did it on the second shot, too.)
Thanks for another excellent, informative video. Those slugs are impressive. I don't feel that your equipment choice impacted negatively in any way - conversely, all viewers will now know not to use a choke with this round.
Wow! I have been watching your videos for a month or two now and i have never seen a block of clay explode like that. Even the hole it left in the lead plate was huge. these are some serious slugs. Have you ever tested anything more impressive than those?
Whoa, I just noticed something, notice the direction of the rifling in the barrel, it is in the OPPOSITE direction than the chines on the slug, meaning that the two directions are working against each other. I wonder what the overall effect was on the spin direction of the slug??
awesome video 😊I've never used these yet for hog hunting in cali but I love the remmington copper solid sabot they make them in hollow point and ballictics tip, and hornady makes a sst sabot as well, wich are awesome and used both for deer and hog not bear yet . i did see any vids of you trying them so thought i'd bring them up ,many more companies make some badass sabot slugs . I'm sure you know but these are some I've used from 15 meters to a 110 meters with smooth bore barrel on my 12 ga .
I may have to order some of these. Every fall we bring our leftover pumpkins to the range where we fill them with water & food coloring before shooting them.
I definitely wanna get me some of those. BUT! Y'all should see how well they work in a smooth bore. A lot of us don't had rifled barrels; let alone a rifled choke tube...
If I were to send you a pack of LBC sabot slugs would you re-test them at a higher velocity? It doesn't seem a fair comparison to load the LBC at a pokey 1200 fps, when they are capable of 2000+ fps, then compare them to a much larger slug at 1500 fps. I love the LBC, and would love to see how they act at higher speeds. I would also love to see how they do against something like ballistic gel at long range say 150 yards.
+RapidRrobert The slots are not there to create spin but to make the slug capable of passing through a choke :) The same goes for the "rifling" on other types of slugs.
Hey Jeff. I just found this video. Can u tell me/ us what type of gun powder and how many grains of powder did you load these slugs with to get a velocity of 1,500 fps? Thanks in advance
Great stuff, Boy's I miss being able to shoot, as a Aussie Vet, I got messed up over 26 years ago, things happen quick, but I love your Posts, nice rounds. What happens over longer shots? Have you used dumb dumb rounds or jelly bean bags , they are crazy fun. Regards from DownUnder , keep up the good work.
+ArtisanTony having plastic at it's base would mean that the centre of mass is closer to the nose then the aerodynamic 'centre', which increases stability. sure there are many slug shapes that don't require plastic to fly straight, like you said, but having the plastic would allow for an otherwise unstable shape to fly straight
hey ... i was looking your videos and had an idea my father made a slug that workd well with his gun and my uncle shot a boar in a about 110 m whit it . if you dont mind i can send some of those to you ..
I've wondered for a while why you insist on using a rifled choke on rounds designed to be fired out of a smooth bore. What's the idea behind using shells in a shotgun that's not the right specifications?
That's fantastic slugs...For any situations EVEN hunting everywhere GUALANDI have choise of slugs.For me the best is GUALBO subcaliber like "SABOT" in fact the bullet is in 20ga but puted in plastic conteiner who have (COMLET DIAMETER OF 18,6mm)..GREAT CHOISE FOR ANY CHOKE IN ANY SMOOTH BORE SHOTGUN..ps The weight is 28g..Greetings from MACEDONIA
+Stephen Powers The only place that I know that sells that is SGammo. I emailed them offering them free publicity in exchange for a few of their slugs... but they turned me down.
+TAOFLEDERMAUS I have tons..message me if you want some, more than happy to help.I bought mine from other places online.. I also have DDUPLEKS Steel slugs and I think I have the Sauvestre finned brass slugs too and the old Hevi-Shot slugs. www.ballisticproducts.com/Rio-RMG12-12ga-Armoured-MG-Slug-10_box/productinfo/RIORMG1210/ (Out of stock but JIC) www.ammosupplywarehouse.com/category/SGS0/12-GA-SHOTGUN-SLUG.html
Oh wow thanks, i didn't know that. Do you know how hard it is comparable to other materials? Say... harder than Iron but softer than Titanium, or something like that.
Thank you very much! Do you know a reasonable good material (price/effectiveness) for body armor? I'm talking Spartan-like armor, know what i mean? My goal is to make my own costumed body armor, but i think it would be pretty dope if it is fully functional against current weapons as well you know? I want to take thickness/weight into account so i can design the most efficiently and you seem like a very knowledgeable pal. Sorry to bother you tho.
Would this be ok to shoot out of a suppressed shotgun? Would it break the suppressor? I want to go wild boar hunting. I'm looking at buying a Remington 870 with a X caliber suppressor. Thanks :)
The grain of the wood you used caused the bullet to pop out the side, if you look at the 6th piece, the grain is U Shaped. That caused the bullet to follow the path of the U to the outside. When you stack these boards in the future take note of the wood grain and try NOT to use U shaped Grain, If you need to use it, make sure the U is facing the shooter. Grain is fickle and very strong hence the reason the bullet was pushed out... Cheers...
That ricochet. Also, do those things work well in Weatherby pa-08 with full choke? cause i couldnt find my kit for chokes, and i dont feel like buying more.
+Rods Ahed I've shot slugs through a few full choke guns. Never actually had a problem. I'm not saying it's 100% safe, but the three guns I can recall shooting them through all survived and the slugs were all accurate through them.
Savio Strawn With my particular gun, I was told that shooting them can bulge the barrels. That's with fixed chokes of course, but one instance of it happening is enough for me to say fuck that and avoid destroying the thing.
+TotalMetalJacket It is a one year old H P laptop . I have even installed new sound driver programs on it . On videos with low volume it barely plays but on most it does great . Do you know of anything that will help other than adding external speakers or replacing the new laptop ?
MrWhatdoyouthinkof Sounds like you just have shit speakers mate (computer science major talking). My recommendation is either use headphones or external speakers. Not much of a way to fix it otherwise.
+TotalMetalJacket You were correct , headphones worked just fine on this video . I am still perplexed as to why it is only on some videos from certain you tubers . Thanks for your input sir .
+Mgkiller 1337 I believe you only start to get better performance if you go down the column in the periodic table of elements. Depleted uranium slugs anyone?
1500fps and 1 3/8oz..? That thing packs a serious wallop and it shows :D Now that I think of it, there's not many commercial slug ammo available in 3,5"/89mm configuration. With a 3,5" one can surely showe some powder behind that projectile since in shotshells the 3,5" extra capacity is used for shot or more likely larger shot with the same amount of shot as in 3" to give extra range and penetration mostly in waterfowling situations. That slug has more than 4000J of energy meaning around 3000ft.lbs. Equal to a let's say Norma Oryx .30-06 200gr hunting round. And that's for taking down a moose from a bit of range too.
Sponsored video with that many likes and absolute 0 dislikes *That means quality man*. Show other youtubers how to do it right xD Btw: Interesting ammo! It seems cappable to blow up zombie heads fairly easily ^^
+Clashing With Chris depends on the load but I'm pretty safe to say that they are accurate and very powerful up to 100 yards. Anyway here (I'm Italian) we rarely hunt down wild boars with 12 Gauge shotguns at big distances, in other words we usually expect to engage them up to 40-50 yards top. If longer distances are expected, hunters usually feel more confident with semi auto rifles in powerful calibers, like the Browning BAR or Benelli ARGOs in .308 minimum
The one common denominator I've noticed of all these exotic slug shells is they almost never behave like you would imagine sitting on the bench, when slowed down (film that is), some that looked very aerodynamic often tumbles while others that look like a brick will travel very accurately. Very interesting. Thanks for posting these.
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Thanks for this video, it's much appreciated as we can get these loaded by Challenger in Quebec here in Canada, but the Brenneke have been either unavailable or $4-$5 a shot when we do find them.
We live in rural BC where there's no shortage of bears. When we go up the mountains behind the house our standard progression of bear discouraging devices is good spray followed by a short barreled 12 gauge loaded with Gualandi slugs.
Thanks again for the good video sir.
I believe I'm in error stating the Challenger is the 1 3/8 oz, it's the 11/8 oz I see on the box. Would love to find some of the 1 3/8 oz to load on this side of the medicine line.
Sorry for the error and thanks again for the great videos
I love the direction you're channel is going
Ohhh, I'll be getiing some of those. Thanks, Italy!
2:48 He lifted the barrel before pulling the trigger. That's what caused the too-high strike, not the external ballistics. (I think he did it on the second shot, too.)
idd, in away he did hit were he is was aiming tho :P just above the ledplate :P
These slugs look awesome! Great test! Liked! :)
+JesseAndMike thank you!!
love the thunderbolt slug. looks like a very dangerous round.
Ballistic products are known for the generosity of testing their products!!!.
Wow! these are awesome! Thanks for the video! Great content once again! Might have to pick some of these up!
Thanks for another excellent, informative video. Those slugs are impressive.
I don't feel that your equipment choice impacted negatively in any way - conversely, all viewers will now know not to use a choke with this round.
+Paul Roberts Thanks Paul!
You've been quick to test this big one! cheers
italian slug is by far the best in europe!!! and better than a brenneke slug
You ought to try some lightfield commander slugs...the 3.5 inch ones do about 1890 fps for the same 1-3/8 ounce slug
I wish they still made them😢 wish someone woulr make one just as powerful
Wow! I have been watching your videos for a month or two now and i have never seen a block of clay explode like that. Even the hole it left in the lead plate was huge. these are some serious slugs. Have you ever tested anything more impressive than those?
3:00 You can see how he starts to driftt up as he pulls the trigger. Nice shot of the shot dude.
What are the best hunting slugs to use for smooth bore, and rifled bore shotguns
Great vid! Tell Ballistic Products that I will be picking up a couple of these because of your video.
That was awesome, I mean not just awesome, I don't know how much better to describe it.
Love the videos. Not sure why, but your videos seem to be at half the volume of all the other youtubers that i watch.
Another great video guys ..
Whoa, I just noticed something, notice the direction of the rifling in the barrel, it is in the
OPPOSITE direction than the chines on the slug, meaning that the two directions are working against each other. I wonder what the overall effect was on the spin direction of the slug??
Any chines, grooves, etc on a slug doesn't affect the spin at all.
***** Oh, didn't realize that. Even on a smooth barrel, it will not have effect aerodynamically? Thanks for all your awesome videos!
Is it spin?
awesome video 😊I've never used these yet for hog hunting in cali but I love the remmington copper solid sabot they make them in hollow point and ballictics tip, and hornady makes a sst sabot as well, wich are awesome and used both for deer and hog not bear yet . i did see any vids of you trying them so thought i'd bring them up ,many more companies make some badass sabot slugs . I'm sure you know but these are some I've used from 15 meters to a 110 meters with smooth bore barrel on my 12 ga .
Looks like it hits SO hard
+Chicken Nug Master :)
mag
i put em in a bag
dont be such a drag
+Jared Dela Torre That rhymes
I may have to order some of these. Every fall we bring our leftover pumpkins to the range where we fill them with water & food coloring before shooting them.
Plain cool! Thanks for sharing.
can you do a video of you top 10 favorite slugs.......
Every time the wife sees me opening your channel she says "put it out your mind". Hell. There's nothing in my mind. Ask anyone.
DANG GUYS THANKS FOR YOUR TESTING AND SAVING ME AND MINE LOADS OF CASH AND TIME. REGARDS BOB W.
if you put cling film around the clay block, would it still splatter in every direction ripping the film apart?
have you demo slung buck? or razor discs.
that would be awesome!
Great video guys. A stable slug indeed
thanks!
I definitely wanna get me some of those. BUT! Y'all should see how well they work in a smooth bore. A lot of us don't had rifled barrels; let alone a rifled choke tube...
Is this the only slug that was able to defeat the lead plate?
cazzo vuoi
my dic is big
please do a ballostics test of this round
Get get get it! Love these videos!
May I suggest the Brenneke Magnum Crush? Way more powerful than the Black Magic. tx!
That just detonated the clay target.Bad day to be a gummy bear
+Albion Laster Keep that shit away from me!
Another great slug video thanks that's some power !
thanks!
Yes ballistic products have some good stufff
I would only use a smooth bore shotgun,........ because I don't want any bore contact with lead that hard.
The LBC looks OK.
Nice video but what's with the interlace artifacts recently?
why are there cars driving in the background, isnt it a bit dangerous to shoot towards a heavily used road?
I know that site well. Those cars are miles away. No danger to anything but catfish and mud out there.
+historical-oracle Cuz 'murica
Lord Falletti thank U perfect answer 4 these commie safety question askers
are these type of slugs legal for hunting
+GradeZunderZ Er yea?
+GradeZunderZ of course
Why would you ask that question?
+GLC jonsan308 because there are countries with laws maybe
How would you compare these to the magnum crush rounds which would you say are more powerful
really awesome slug
If I were to send you a pack of LBC sabot slugs would you re-test them at a higher velocity? It doesn't seem a fair comparison to load the LBC at a pokey 1200 fps, when they are capable of 2000+ fps, then compare them to a much larger slug at 1500 fps. I love the LBC, and would love to see how they act at higher speeds. I would also love to see how they do against something like ballistic gel at long range say 150 yards.
+Thomas Condon I may get some more from the manufacturer in Italy. They are going to send me some more samples.
the ar plate might be able to stop it, but all the shrapnel from the slug will probably serrate the wearer's neck, etc.
I dont use ear pro or glass's and all the comments i get are regarding such.... what a world we live in my friend... what a world indeed
Awesome!
+lcpl4life89 thanks!
did they use your test data to make the brand ones
You should team up with TheSlowMoGuys! I bet they would be delighted to capture these shots in slow-mo.
Do you think that the slots intended to spin the slug work? I doubt it but .. they still hit hard as heck.
+RapidRrobert The slots are not there to create spin but to make the slug capable of passing through a choke :) The same goes for the "rifling" on other types of slugs.
+Survival Russia That's my belief too. Sort of a safety feature to allow the slug to easier squeeze through a choke.
Great video, thanks.
Do you have any videos with better ideas coming up?
Hey Jeff. I just found this video. Can u tell me/ us what type of gun powder and how many grains of powder did you load these slugs with to get a velocity of 1,500 fps? Thanks in advance
1 out of 10 viewers like this, one out of 8700 dislike...can't get much better than that!
Ever heard of the 1 3/4 ounce federal slugs?
GREETINGS.. CAN FIRED IN FULL CHOKE SHOTGUNS.?
Exist a fmj slug?
hi, the most popular round in europe is the brenneke, do you know the sauvestre arrow bullet for shotguns ?
Great stuff, Boy's I miss being able to shoot, as a Aussie Vet, I got messed up over 26 years ago, things happen quick, but I love your Posts, nice rounds. What happens over longer shots? Have you used dumb dumb rounds or jelly bean bags , they are crazy fun. Regards from DownUnder , keep up the good work.
Hey tao. I noticed that this video uses interlaced frames. Is it possible that next time you could not use interlacing - it can be very distracting.
+Plasma_000 I was trying new camera settings that didn't work with my video editor.
Why would they expect the plastic to stay with the lead every time?
+ArtisanTony It makes the slug fly straight.
+TAOFLEDERMAUS Um, there are slugs that fly straight without the plastic.
+ArtisanTony We use to shoot round nose slugs a bunch when I was a teen. No fancy plastic tail fins :) Lee slugs.
+ArtisanTony having plastic at it's base would mean that the centre of mass is closer to the nose then the aerodynamic 'centre', which increases stability. sure there are many slug shapes that don't require plastic to fly straight, like you said, but having the plastic would allow for an otherwise unstable shape to fly straight
hey ... i was looking your videos and had an idea my father made a slug that workd well with his gun and my uncle shot a boar in a about 110 m whit it . if you dont mind i can send some of those to you ..
That would be a great defensive/death round. They're going to sell a bunch of these.
+jittychitty
"home shooting yesterday night, the dead burglar is unrecognizable due to the huge hole in his head"
+CDgonePotatoes Dang, where live?
jittychitty
just imagining what would happen, it's sure gonna be a mess.
Dat ricochet whistle though!
That's an amazing round!!! I was wondering have you guys tried the leigh penetrator round or have an opinion if you have?
Can you please try this with ballistic gelatin?
That's some crazy power.
I've wondered for a while why you insist on using a rifled choke on rounds designed to be fired out of a smooth bore. What's the idea behind using shells in a shotgun that's not the right specifications?
That's fantastic slugs...For any situations EVEN hunting everywhere GUALANDI have choise of slugs.For me the best is GUALBO subcaliber like "SABOT" in fact the bullet is in 20ga but puted in plastic conteiner who have (COMLET DIAMETER OF 18,6mm)..GREAT CHOISE FOR ANY CHOKE IN ANY SMOOTH BORE SHOTGUN..ps The weight is 28g..Greetings from MACEDONIA
Great video..Have you guys tried the RIO MG slugs with the steel tips?
+Stephen Powers The only place that I know that sells that is SGammo. I emailed them offering them free publicity in exchange for a few of their slugs... but they turned me down.
+TAOFLEDERMAUS I have tons..message me if you want some, more than happy to help.I bought mine from other places online..
I also have DDUPLEKS Steel slugs and I think I have the Sauvestre finned brass slugs too and the old Hevi-Shot slugs.
www.ballisticproducts.com/Rio-RMG12-12ga-Armoured-MG-Slug-10_box/productinfo/RIORMG1210/ (Out of stock but JIC)
www.ammosupplywarehouse.com/category/SGS0/12-GA-SHOTGUN-SLUG.html
How do I order some
Can you use buck shot in a slug gun?
I bought the slug and I have imr green powder. No info on powder load for 3 inch shell with 1 1/8 ounce projectile.
I would suggest joining the "buck and slug reloaders" FB group. I'm sure someone there can point you in the right direction.
@@taofledermaus Thanks man but I don't have Facebook.
did anyone here that sound when thay shot the lead plate
+the animalandhumansoulexterminatorofdeath killer I heard a long pew sound :)
+ArtisanTony It's sounds crazy but the slug wasn't going very fast after the impact.
+TAOFLEDERMAUS Probably tumbling like crazy though.
+1guyin10 We shot Lee slugs all the time growing up just a round nose slug kill deer all day long if needed. UA-cam invented the fancy slug. :)
+the animalandhumansoulexterminatorofdeath killer It was a very peculiar _ping_ i say
That looks brutal !
What kind of plate was used in the last shot? The more info about material properties and mesures the better.
Oh wow thanks, i didn't know that. Do you know how hard it is comparable to other materials? Say... harder than Iron but softer than Titanium, or something like that.
Thank you very much! Do you know a reasonable good material (price/effectiveness) for body armor? I'm talking Spartan-like armor, know what i mean? My goal is to make my own costumed body armor, but i think it would be pretty dope if it is fully functional against current weapons as well you know? I want to take thickness/weight into account so i can design the most efficiently and you seem like a very knowledgeable pal. Sorry to bother you tho.
use a cheap and soft steel for that, ar500 steel is hard to work with
LEAVE ME ALONE! got that? Thanks a lot pal! U r very resourceful
Probably pointless wearing a bp vest as it will slam ur rib cage thru ur spine (from the blunt trauma). yes...that will hurt a lot.
Alpha Fort Without one you would probably die
this round would kill you dead, you can wear whatever you want.
You would most likely die from the internal trauma even with a BP vest.
Would this be ok to shoot out of a suppressed shotgun? Would it break the suppressor? I want to go wild boar hunting. I'm looking at buying a Remington 870 with a X caliber suppressor. Thanks :)
I really have no idea. I would think the suppressors would be designed to shoot slug through them.
The grain of the wood you used caused the bullet to pop out the side, if you look at the 6th piece, the grain is U Shaped. That caused the bullet to follow the path of the U to the outside. When you stack these boards in the future take note of the wood grain and try NOT to use U shaped Grain, If you need to use it, make sure the U is facing the shooter. Grain is fickle and very strong hence the reason the bullet was pushed out... Cheers...
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That ricochet. Also, do those things work well in Weatherby pa-08 with full choke? cause i couldnt find my kit for chokes, and i dont feel like buying more.
+Rods Ahed its ill advised to shoot slugs out of a full choke, it will destroy the choke
+Michael Jones And if it's a fixed choke, you can really fuck the barrels.
Can confirm, own a full choke fixed gun, sadly never get to shoot slugs.
+Rods Ahed I've shot slugs through a few full choke guns. Never actually had a problem. I'm not saying it's 100% safe, but the three guns I can recall shooting them through all survived and the slugs were all accurate through them.
Savio Strawn
With my particular gun, I was told that shooting them can bulge the barrels. That's with fixed chokes of course, but one instance of it happening is enough for me to say fuck that and avoid destroying the thing.
TotalMetalJacket
Nothing wrong with that. It's also a good excuse to go buy another gun =^)
What happened to the precision shooting bench?
Id say waste of time setting it up and unnecessary unless used for a round that might blow up
Id say waste of time setting it up and unnecessary unless used for a round that might cause the gun to blow up
+Matt Keeper Darren keeps that at his house, and he's been too busy to shoot with us because of the new baby.
Just out of curiosity, how much does the lead plate weigh? Did I miss it and don't know?
+Pepper Spray You missed it. He said it was a 20-pound plate.
hey tfm this slug works well in a high brass shell?
How do you feel about the mossberg 500?
What does "high brass" mean?
Shouldn't there be a big ass pile of dirt to stop incoming rounds?
Can you please try to boost the volume on your commentary .
+MrWhatdoyouthinkof Could just boost your own volume.
+TotalMetalJacket It is a one year old H P laptop . I have even installed new sound driver programs on it . On videos with low volume it barely plays but on most it does great . Do you know of anything that will help other than adding external speakers or replacing the new laptop ?
MrWhatdoyouthinkof
Sounds like you just have shit speakers mate (computer science major talking). My recommendation is either use headphones or external speakers. Not much of a way to fix it otherwise.
+TotalMetalJacket You were correct , headphones worked just fine on this video . I am still perplexed as to why it is only on some videos from certain you tubers . Thanks for your input sir .
Could you use the same slug but made out of steel
+Mgkiller 1337 Someone would have to machine it to that shape. It would be lighter, and not carry as much energy as a hard lead.
+TAOFLEDERMAUS what about a slug tipped with tungsten insert think the penetration would be better
+Mgkiller 1337 I believe you only start to get better performance if you go down the column in the periodic table of elements. Depleted uranium slugs anyone?
wow crazy slug
Do you think I could use these on rabbits?
1500fps and 1 3/8oz..? That thing packs a serious wallop and it shows :D Now that I think of it, there's not many commercial slug ammo available in 3,5"/89mm configuration. With a 3,5" one can surely showe some powder behind that projectile since in shotshells the 3,5" extra capacity is used for shot or more likely larger shot with the same amount of shot as in 3" to give extra range and penetration mostly in waterfowling situations. That slug has more than 4000J of energy meaning around 3000ft.lbs. Equal to a let's say Norma Oryx .30-06 200gr hunting round. And that's for taking down a moose from a bit of range too.
Sponsored video with that many likes and absolute 0 dislikes
*That means quality man*. Show other youtubers how to do it right xD
Btw: Interesting ammo! It seems cappable to blow up zombie heads fairly easily ^^
Not sponsored. That means they were paid, with money, to make the video, all the company did was send the slugs.
whats with all the led debris`?
Why, look at the energy transfer that slug got.
What is the maximum range this slug can go?
+Clashing With Chris depends on the load but I'm pretty safe to say that they are accurate and very powerful up to 100 yards. Anyway here (I'm Italian) we rarely hunt down wild boars with 12 Gauge shotguns at big distances, in other words we usually expect to engage them up to 40-50 yards top. If longer distances are expected, hunters usually feel more confident with semi auto rifles in powerful calibers, like the Browning BAR or Benelli ARGOs in .308 minimum