@blackichan3866 What's your point? Because my point was he's only a better scorer. Cade is better all around. I made no point and took no position about either of their values to their teams, but I digress. Cade is way more valuable to the Pistons than Melo is to the Hornets IMO
“Sorry Brunson, we can’t let you start the all star game because Lamelo hasn’t had healthy teammates all year. Yes , yes I know, we all know you are the third seed flirting with the 2nd..”
Lamelo is chucking up shots on a lottery team. 28 and 7 looks okay until you see he’s shooting 41% from the field and 34% from three while turning it over four times a game. There was a year Dame got snubbed with basically that exact stat line, better efficiency and more wins than LaMelo with honestly a worse roster. Can’t keep changing the standard. There’s about 100 guys in the NBA who could put up 28 and 7 if they just got to shoot the ball whenever they wanted.
He did get snubbed. All star game is about entertainment and bro is basically dropping 30 points a game with 7 assists. Which is why people are gonna vote for him over Bronson or any other guard in the east. Before y’all cope about “hornets not playing winning basketball” as a excuse. Please remember Curry isn’t either and he’s still starting with worse stats. 😂
The difference is Steph been there and done it, he’s earned the respect. All lamelo does is chuck bad shots and lose. Thats his entire career summed up😂
@@kristopherrice1465he only been in the league for 5 years and he got the hornets to 40 wins his second year watch every season nigga not just one when making noise because he scoring 30 every fucking game
Cade has the better roster by a mile plus has vets who are experienced but also can put up performances like tobias harris lamelo aint ever played with an allstar level player
@@naklovesjesus32043 player team vs a team that has actual depth. okay bro💀 Are we forgetting melo and b mill dropping a combined 60+ and the team only scoring 80 something that game in a blow out loss????
Lamelo must have something serious on B Hen, he talks about this good stats bad team posterboy on every episode. He's more of Harlem Globetrotter than he is an professional NBA player.
@@DreWillmadeit Wow... I hope you have a good day, clearly you got issues in your life if you talking like that to someone you don't know, and I said nothing disrespectful to you 🤦🏾♂️
All stars is about wins now…? LaMelo makes people watch the hornets and games are more entertaining than Cade. You switch their teams and Cade will not be able to get the same stats but LaMelo will be able to plus more. LaMelo is an all star.
I’m a go with B hen on this one cuz if we going by Teague standards then you could argue Vince Carter didn’t deserve to be on the all star team 02-03. raptors ended that year 24-38 14th in the east he played only 48 games. I’m sure it was other players that qualified but he still got voted in cuz it’s Vince Carter he’s an exciting player to watch . history has proven it’s not always about the record of the team but the hype of the player that year. The all star game is meant to be a show and Cade is just as good as lamelo if not better he just not as polarizing so despite their record I’m a choose the more polarizing figure
nah Teague spitting. Lamelo has some talent in Charlotte, yes they arent perfect but at some point you as the franchise player have to atleast make them competent. Hes 100% capable though just has also had bad injury luck
They need to raise the amount of the All Stars in each conference. They still have the same amount of roster spots they did before the last expansion and we have more teams now.
Cade is averaging more Assists by far, more rebounds, better FG%, better 3pt%, better FT%. his team is a playoff team. Lamelo ONLY has more PPG. And thats it. Cade still averaging 24 a night lol. Lamelo isnt comparable to Cade
Cade is averaging 2 more assists and one more rebound stop acting like the margin is insane. Cade shoots way more open shots and doesn’t see near the same coverage lamelo sees because cade had teammates that can score the ball. Lamelo is a pass first point whose teammates who are not named B mill and Miles bridges can’t score off of. It literally makes 0 sense how these dudes can’t score off the passes that they get from melo when they are wide open.
What Jeff is arguing is something that has divided fans forever. B hen subscribes to the “real hooper” logic of put X player on the court and he will get buckets. There’s a whole category of bad team but good stats guys who feel overlooked. Guys who could chuck up 30 shots a night because winning was never a real objective for the team. Teague understands Cade stats are gonna suffer because they are trying to win now actually
Comparing Cade’s situation to Lamelo’s is insane. Y’all don’t watch the games. Hornets starters played like 6 quarters together healthy. Team been on IR all year long. Put Cade on the Hornets and they got 2 wins and he definitely not scoring more than 17 a game getting doubled.
All you people talking about the roster..... kick rocks. Piston fans been saying that about our roster since Cade's rookie year and we were getting laughed at. Tobias not even balling.
I'm with Teague on this. Melo is getting too much hype. He's been great but in no way shape or form should he be a starter. I'm not mad at him making the team but definitely not a starter. Reward winning over numbers
@@malikbeatty1100 yeah you’re doing so well that your team is fighting to have the #1 pick yet again. How you impact winning games should always play a factor when it comes down to awards. The 2 guards starting are having great seasons as well on teams that are much better than the Hornets
@@tomjornee2391 you can call it what you want. He has the ultimate green light just for that to equal your team being trash. Cunningham has taken the Pistons from a garbage team to a team in the playoffs. That’s what all stars do
Bro confused what a Point Guard suppose to be. A point guard shouldn't be anxious to say he beat his match up. He should be anxious to empower his teammates
He’s a big reason why they aren’t winning too. Crazy high volume and inefficient and can’t guard. He’s good but his style looks good for highlights and stats but it doesn’t translate to winning.
28-5-7 and shouldn’t be in the All Star game???😂 Put Mello on the Pistons who are easily better than the Hornets and they better. Every game teams know when they play the Hornets to stop ONE PLAYER and still can’t do it
I really don’t see whatever it is people see in lamelo, he’s a great talent, but plays such a horrible brand of basketball. Plays zero defense, chucks horrible shots, and could not care less about winning. lamelo still playing like this is AAU…
Hen I can’t agree wit you, the all star game wasn’t meant to be a “f*ck around” type of game they took ts serious back then. It became what it is. I would rather sb like Cade be in the all star game because I have the best talent on the floor and instead of them goin at each otha they shootin from half, throwin oops, not playin defensive. I’m not fw it.
Cade not better than melo. Last yr ya said hali was & melo plucked him on ball for game last yr before his injuries. Cade vs melo cade switchin melo not switchin simple
Lamelo’s team is trash, he has stats are great but it’s empty… Wins are the most important, over everything. I’ve seen too many great players on trash teams go to winners and not be as good. Some not even close. Look at Beal rn, Kevin Martin to OKC, Ron Artest when he joined the lakers.
So it’s about winning? So why curry is starting with far worse stats? Melo 100% snubbed. And this coming from a huge curry fan. Curry my fav player all time b4 yah glaze me.
Cade not better than melo. Last yr ya said hali was & melo plucked him on ball for game last yr before his injuries. Cade vs melo cade switchin melo not switchin simple
Cade isn’t just all star he’s all NBA this year what are we talking about
So he top 15in the league?
You could def make an argument that hes playing like a top 15 guy this season. I don't think he IS a top 15 player tho.
Can’t argue with that
HE IS !!! Thank you
@@nitoshadow Exactly these people just say anything
This is a fan vs a player mindset it’s 50/50 tbh they both make valid points
Let da fans stop being engaged in allstar weekend we gon see who was right😂 y'all act like melo not averaging 30
Also Detroit added pieces especially veterans. Lamelo team has been getting worse since he got there.@@Dombuddy5
50% fan, 25% player and 25% media. Please share FACTS😮
B Hen, you wildin
Dudes got the most garbage takes ever.
Cade Cunningham definitely deserves to be there. He’s been balling out this year
All star is not a team thing it's a individual performance
Cade is better fasure
No
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Better all around but not a better scorer
@@blackpoliticsnewsnetwork1111 And how is that better scoring helping the hornets in the standings?
@blackichan3866 What's your point? Because my point was he's only a better scorer. Cade is better all around. I made no point and took no position about either of their values to their teams, but I digress. Cade is way more valuable to the Pistons than Melo is to the Hornets IMO
Jeff sounds like he took a few shots before the podcast lol. Respect lol
Wins shouldn’t matter when talking about the All-Star game. It should be all stats and who’s making the biggest impact as a player.
Cade got a better roster than Melo too
The Hornets got 3 guys on their roster wtf. Havent been healthy all year. How you gonna win?
“Sorry Brunson, we can’t let you start the all star game because Lamelo hasn’t had healthy teammates all year. Yes , yes I know, we all know you are the third seed flirting with the 2nd..”
When they was healthy lamelo was out there hogging so much the coach sat him down
@@Dipset415That’s literally not what happened fool. He was having a horrible game then the coach sat him because he wasn’t making any shots.
@@bigshadiie4623 you want an allstar that got benched mid game? Interesting
Cade should've made it flat out
Lamelo is chucking up shots on a lottery team. 28 and 7 looks okay until you see he’s shooting 41% from the field and 34% from three while turning it over four times a game. There was a year Dame got snubbed with basically that exact stat line, better efficiency and more wins than LaMelo with honestly a worse roster. Can’t keep changing the standard. There’s about 100 guys in the NBA who could put up 28 and 7 if they just got to shoot the ball whenever they wanted.
He did get snubbed. All star game is about entertainment and bro is basically dropping 30 points a game with 7 assists. Which is why people are gonna vote for him over Bronson or any other guard in the east.
Before y’all cope about “hornets not playing winning basketball” as a excuse. Please remember Curry isn’t either and he’s still starting with worse stats. 😂
The difference is Steph been there and done it, he’s earned the respect. All lamelo does is chuck bad shots and lose. Thats his entire career summed up😂
@@kristopherrice1465he only been in the league for 5 years and he got the hornets to 40 wins his second year watch every season nigga not just one when making noise because he scoring 30 every fucking game
Warriors have 20 wins and Steph ain’t out there just getting stats he’s actually trying to win while lamelo bullspittin
The warriors ain't even winning yet they have double the hornets win, what's that tell you?
Cade has the better roster by a mile plus has vets who are experienced but also can put up performances like tobias harris lamelo aint ever played with an allstar level player
Don't give me that roster BS right now . CADE is a more effective player than lamelo its not hard to see.
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Okay we just gonna forget how butt Det was, Cade improved and so has Det
Miles Bridges was an all star level player😂
Stop the cap 🧢
Nobody on Detroit is as good as Bridges and Miller.
@@naklovesjesus32043 player team vs a team that has actual depth. okay bro💀 Are we forgetting melo and b mill dropping a combined 60+ and the team only scoring 80 something that game in a blow out loss????
Roy Hibbert caught a stray 😂
Teagu never keeps it real
The wins really matter as they should, Cade is BALLIN and he's getting the wins also meanwhile Charlotte is stinking up the gym!!!
Lamelo must have something serious on B Hen, he talks about this good stats bad team posterboy on every episode. He's more of Harlem Globetrotter than he is an professional NBA player.
WHY TF DO TEAM STATS MATTER FOR INDIVIDUAL PLAY AWARDS
Because of impact... Of course 😅
@ lol you sound dumb, impact on a good team with good teammates isn’t the same on a bad team with young roster !0
@@DreWillmadeit
Wow... I hope you have a good day, clearly you got issues in your life if you talking like that to someone you don't know, and I said nothing disrespectful to you 🤦🏾♂️
Detroit traded quality pieces around Cade . The hornets have not done that for lamelo
No they didn’t take Cade off we win no games at all
Lamelo is one of the best pgs in the league. Give lamelo a better team and he’ll be way beyond Cade bro.
But he wouldn’t though
@ most definitely would!
Exactly!! Jeff tee don’t kno what he’s talking about
All stars is about wins now…? LaMelo makes people watch the hornets and games are more entertaining than Cade. You switch their teams and Cade will not be able to get the same stats but LaMelo will be able to plus more. LaMelo is an all star.
I’m a go with B hen on this one cuz if we going by Teague standards then you could argue Vince Carter didn’t deserve to be on the all star team 02-03. raptors ended that year 24-38 14th in the east he played only 48 games. I’m sure it was other players that qualified but he still got voted in cuz it’s Vince Carter he’s an exciting player to watch . history has proven it’s not always about the record of the team but the hype of the player that year. The all star game is meant to be a show and Cade is just as good as lamelo if not better he just not as polarizing so despite their record I’m a choose the more polarizing figure
nah Teague spitting. Lamelo has some talent in Charlotte, yes they arent perfect but at some point you as the franchise player have to atleast make them competent. Hes 100% capable though just has also had bad injury luck
They need to raise the amount of the All Stars in each conference. They still have the same amount of roster spots they did before the last expansion and we have more teams now.
Not enough minutes for everyone
Winning is the most impressive part of the game. Cade is hooping and winning if you don’t reward that it’s insulting to the game.
Cade is an all star, but as the nba talks about ratings LaMelo need to be there
Cade is averaging more Assists by far, more rebounds, better FG%, better 3pt%, better FT%. his team is a playoff team. Lamelo ONLY has more PPG. And thats it. Cade still averaging 24 a night lol. Lamelo isnt comparable to Cade
Cade is averaging 2 more assists and one more rebound stop acting like the margin is insane. Cade shoots way more open shots and doesn’t see near the same coverage lamelo sees because cade had teammates that can score the ball. Lamelo is a pass first point whose teammates who are not named B mill and Miles bridges can’t score off of. It literally makes 0 sense how these dudes can’t score off the passes that they get from melo when they are wide open.
@Cade has teammates who can score??? Lamelo is pass first but Cade averages more assists? Make it make sense 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hornets haven't been healthy all year
What Jeff is arguing is something that has divided fans forever. B hen subscribes to the “real hooper” logic of put X player on the court and he will get buckets. There’s a whole category of bad team but good stats guys who feel overlooked. Guys who could chuck up 30 shots a night because winning was never a real objective for the team. Teague understands Cade stats are gonna suffer because they are trying to win now actually
Yall smoking dope to say ball not better 😂😂😂
It's funny how they say Melo don't have wins, however if the team would have stayed just a little healthy, they would have twice as many wins!
Comparing Cade’s situation to Lamelo’s is insane. Y’all don’t watch the games. Hornets starters played like 6 quarters together healthy. Team been on IR all year long. Put Cade on the Hornets and they got 2 wins and he definitely not scoring more than 17 a game getting doubled.
Saying he wouldn’t be able to score more than 17 a game getting doubled is insane LMAO 😂 . Have you paid attention to his career at all?
Fwm for the good tunes Bodybag Yayo on all plats😶🌫️
He’s 1 in guard vote in East fans want him the fans is what pays yall bills
i ain’t gon lie i would’ve rather see LaMelo over Brunson in the starting five entertainment purposes
Head to head with a worse team, Lamelo kills Cade everytime bro. Detroit is better because they made trades. Who did the hornets trade for??
6:44 i literally asked for and got a Khris Middleton jersey for Christmas
Cade has a way better squad that stays healthy. Melo should definitely be a reserve allstar but not starter
All you people talking about the roster..... kick rocks. Piston fans been saying that about our roster since Cade's rookie year and we were getting laughed at. Tobias not even balling.
Anyone can get numbers with some scrubs, but you gotta be a real bucket getter to keep you numbers up on a good winning team
I love Bhenn but how you gon argue with an nba champion and all star 😭
Lamelo average 30 he a reserve atleast , wish the hornets weren’t injured they’re not as bad as their record, same with the pelicans
Not over dame and trae💯
@@Dipset415leave that crack alone
Cade easily better than Melo this year
I'm with Teague on this. Melo is getting too much hype. He's been great but in no way shape or form should he be a starter. I'm not mad at him making the team but definitely not a starter. Reward winning over numbers
Yeah reward team stats for individual awards that makes sooo much sense 😂😂😂
Sound like a hater
@@malikbeatty1100 yeah you’re doing so well that your team is fighting to have the #1 pick yet again. How you impact winning games should always play a factor when it comes down to awards. The 2 guards starting are having great seasons as well on teams that are much better than the Hornets
@@tomjornee2391 you can call it what you want. He has the ultimate green light just for that to equal your team being trash. Cunningham has taken the Pistons from a garbage team to a team in the playoffs. That’s what all stars do
Facts
Cade Detroit Basketball 🏀
Bro confused what a Point Guard suppose to be. A point guard shouldn't be anxious to say he beat his match up. He should be anxious to empower his teammates
Lauri from the jazz made an all star appearance and his team was buns so …
Hornets record more about injuries and lack of depth
Yall keep tallying about Cade n pistons jump in record but not mentioning they got vets in Tobias Beasley and hardaway jr
2:26 Hold on… didn't they just get the needed veteran presence of Demar Derozan? That don't matter?
Huh? Pistons don’t have derozan and neither does the hornets. Hes on the kings.
Lamelo made all star when the hornets werent winning games…
Cade plays defense
no he doesn’t 😂
Curry shouldnt be a starter nor reserve then. His team is ass and so is he
He can’t even stay healthy enough to make it to the damn all star game
Charles Barley definitely don't watch the games
Can talk about who’s in charge of designing the all star jerseys and appeal? It’s been trash
He’s a big reason why they aren’t winning too. Crazy high volume and inefficient and can’t guard. He’s good but his style looks good for highlights and stats but it doesn’t translate to winning.
Boiiii what about the golden states they’re 11th on standing rn and the meat ridin curry and he a starter like what we talking about the team
Pistons want make the playoffs
Lamelo way better than Cade 😂 wtf Jeff talking about
Teague trippin. Lamelo better. He gets double every match up and guarded 90 ft. His starters are injured and he’s
28-5-7 and shouldn’t be in the All Star game???😂 Put Mello on the Pistons who are easily better than the Hornets and they better. Every game teams know when they play the Hornets to stop ONE PLAYER and still can’t do it
wtf is bhen talking about
Fan Votes don’t matter then if Melo #1 n can’t be a reserve
Listen to Jeff … I think he might know what he talking about
Didn’t look at this episode was Teague sipping heavy this one?? (Legit question not trying to be funny)
wins don't mean anything for the all star. i saw a 9th place laker get 2 all stars
I really don’t see whatever it is people see in lamelo, he’s a great talent, but plays such a horrible brand of basketball. Plays zero defense, chucks horrible shots, and could not care less about winning. lamelo still playing like this is AAU…
He KILLS Cade EVERY matchup. 😂😂😂 look at the hornets wins....Cade is not better than melo. Even an Healthy squad
Hen I can’t agree wit you, the all star game wasn’t meant to be a “f*ck around” type of game they took ts serious back then. It became what it is. I would rather sb like Cade be in the all star game because I have the best talent on the floor and instead of them goin at each otha they shootin from half, throwin oops, not playin defensive. I’m not fw it.
Love LaMelo game also but no!! he has to elevate his team to wins. 8 wins I don't care who you are you not making the all star game if I had to vote.
His team is trash
Cade not better than melo. Last yr ya said hali was & melo plucked him on ball for game last yr before his injuries. Cade vs melo cade switchin melo not switchin simple
Fans get caught up in the wrong numbers. Melo team doesn't win and he's inefficient asf. Bruh shoot like 41% what are we talkin about here 😂😂
He didn’t make the game at all ??
Melo by a mile.
Dude get to jack, who he making better?
Lamelo’s team is trash, he has stats are great but it’s empty… Wins are the most important, over everything. I’ve seen too many great players on trash teams go to winners and not be as good. Some not even close. Look at Beal rn, Kevin Martin to OKC, Ron Artest when he joined the lakers.
So it’s about winning? So why curry is starting with far worse stats? Melo 100% snubbed. And this coming from a huge curry fan. Curry my fav player all time b4 yah glaze me.
Idk Teague… I edge LaMelo over Cade. I see your point tho
U do what????
@@StoriesNyTVLamelo can score just as good as him but lamelo is a better passer so i would take melo
@@BDAthleticInsider Oh yeah for sure I was just like what does he mean be "he edges him" 💀
The fact nobody is giving Tyler herro a chance is crazy. The numbers speak for themselves
Lamelo better plus he shooting 11-26
Tyrese better than Cade.
Cade better then DFox tho
& Lonzo better than Tyrese
Trae young better than J Brunson
Trae is also better than Lamelo
Lamelo better than Brunson !!!
Brunson better than Lonzo but
Brunson not better than Cade !!
DFox over Trae young !!!
Detroit still mid too btw
teague lit
Why is Steph an all star 💀
First!!!
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@thebigbarczynski5844 you bored and mad that you wasn’t first 🤡
Cade not better than melo. Last yr ya said hali was & melo plucked him on ball for game last yr before his injuries. Cade vs melo cade switchin melo not switchin simple