LUMIX S5IIX My Long Term Review - Pros, Cons, and Firmware Requests! 📸

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  • Опубліковано 10 гру 2024

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  • @GeekyNerdyTechy
    @GeekyNerdyTechy  10 днів тому +8

    The S5IIX is my favorite Full Frame Camera of all time. While it's not perfect, it's a pleasure to use for the sort of stuff I do on UA-cam and outside of it. Let me know what you think of the S5IIX - Get it on sale here while Black Friday is still on!
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    • @jeffb8824
      @jeffb8824 8 днів тому

      @@GeekyNerdyTechy everyone seems to love the Fx3, which I know you’ve also owned. Why do you prefer the s5ii x over the Fx3?
      Thanks so much!

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  8 днів тому

      @@jeffb8824 Yes, the S5IIX represents far better value and 6K open gate is great to work with. If you're a handheld shooter it's not even close, the S5IIX kills the FX3. The FX3 is better only in 4K60/120p and in some autofocus modes. In other AF modes, the S5IIX performs better.

  • @kostistau
    @kostistau 8 днів тому +5

    This is the best review of the s5ii I’ve ever seen. Thanks for your work

  • @tukaetaka
    @tukaetaka 9 днів тому +7

    I will be really pleased if Panasonic add the extra frame markers to the S5II. I really miss them

  • @marin_real_estate_photography
    @marin_real_estate_photography 9 днів тому +4

    Thanks, Shane. Hope you guys are having a great time.

  • @Nature_Unboxed_0
    @Nature_Unboxed_0 10 днів тому +20

    My S5 II is the best camera I ever owned, and I'm pretty much owned all brands.

  • @alex-chicago-80
    @alex-chicago-80 9 днів тому +5

    As soon as they come out with the updated S1, I'm buying. I love what Nikon is doing, i own a Zf myself. But I like to root for the underdogs. Panasonic make the best hybrid cameras over the other competition in my opinion. What they offer for video is amazing. Their alliance with Sigma, and Leica gives you really great quality glass.

  • @1UpBebop
    @1UpBebop 9 днів тому +6

    I know three people that went GH7 to G9ii and one person that went S5IIX to S5II. The GH7 -> G9ii people all used Resolve, so prores raw meant nothing to them, shoot in cool climates so the fan meant nothing, especially since the g9ii already doesnt overheat even in the warm, they don't shoot on a lot with other Arri cameras, so log color grade matching with arri cameras meant nothing to them, etc. Just like you said at the end - we convince ourselves we need coverage for all these extreme edge case scenarios, but 99.9999% of the time it's just us fooling ourselves that we will ever be in a situation that calls for it.
    While the S5IIx has some neat awesome tech features like the live streaming ability and such, I know for a fact I will never actually "need" it.

  • @vibinc4005
    @vibinc4005 4 дні тому +1

    Thanks for the thorough review with many great sample clips throughout. The best S5IIX review I have seen!

  • @Joyful-Yarn
    @Joyful-Yarn 4 дні тому +1

    Love your videos mate. Proud owner of this camera. It’s a beast.

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  3 дні тому +1

      Awesome! I'm glad you're loving it as well. Thanks man.

  • @orange-you-later
    @orange-you-later 10 днів тому +4

    that intro montage 🔥

  • @MaximoJoshua
    @MaximoJoshua 8 днів тому +2

    just ordered an S5IIx, looking forward to playing around with it

  • @gucheefam
    @gucheefam 9 днів тому +2

    Pre-ordered the s5iix when it was announced and still no regrets. and now recently got the S9, im pretty much set with 18mm , 28-200, sigma 35mm 1.4 capturing family moments and travels. i dont want to make a mistake of selling my lumix again (previously gh5 back in 2019)

  • @KPGuitarStudios
    @KPGuitarStudios 10 днів тому +2

    Yes mate! It's still interesting how for certain things the S9 is still better. It seems like a studio setup with a mixture of s9, s52 and perhaps a couple of micro 4/3 cameras gets you incredible results and very cost-effective

  • @robtheaccountant
    @robtheaccountant 10 днів тому +3

    Hello from New York boy that sunshine looks swell and I can feel the heat all the way here in New York, jelly. Have a great week Shane

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  9 днів тому +1

      I can only imagine how cold it is in NY! Keep warm haha. Have a great week, thanks mate.

  • @judsonbertoch7928
    @judsonbertoch7928 10 днів тому +4

    Nice, as always. For me, mostly a video shooter behind the camera:
    1. Always work on autofocus improvements. 50% of the time in normal conditions I still have to use the focus ring to acquire focus, then "C" does take over nicely.
    2. Rolling shutter. From what I read, this is not firmware fixable, but I rarely pan at all because of it.
    3. I wish it had a higher resolution LCD screen
    4. I wish I could change the focus peaking colors via a button.
    5. Use some of the marketing budget to hire someone like yourself to TOTALLY test and figure out the camera B4 release. Cameras are so damn complex nowadays and it was really frustrating to set it up, especially autofocus settings.

    • @mike_k.
      @mike_k. 6 годин тому

      half of your problems are fixable with external monitor which you want especially if you are recording since on such small display you will think you are in focus and will be badly surprised in the post. I will rather have external monitor that I choose than bigger body to fit 5''.

    • @judsonbertoch7928
      @judsonbertoch7928 Годину тому

      @@mike_k. I do use a monitor. FP is set to one color on the monitor and another on the LCD. The HDMI feed for info can only go to the monitor or the LCD (not both). If you send it to (at least my monitor) the monitor the info is across the top and smaller letters/numbers than LCD so what's the point. Plus the waveform cannot be sent to the monitor. It makes it awkward to have to use have the screen folded out and the monitor mounted.

  • @Denneska
    @Denneska 7 днів тому +1

    I compared so many different cameras before discovering the S5 II X and realizing it is OBJECTIVELY the best camera at this price range !
    I'm a hobbyist and it is my first "serious" camera. And I'm really enjoying it, even though I'm still learning how to use it fully.

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  6 днів тому

      Nice mate! I am glad you're enjoying it. This is a great camera and it's about all you'll need for most situations these days. Well done.

  • @TheFilmmakersWorkshop
    @TheFilmmakersWorkshop 10 днів тому +2

    Cheers Shane. Def gotta sort out FF 50/60 and PDAF on all main settings

  • @tptrsn
    @tptrsn 6 днів тому +1

    Seems like you might have made the best case for the S9 in this video! The narrative part where you are showing the S5iiX looks amazing, and it seems to contain some features you wish were in the S5iiX. I'm off to watch your S9 vs. S5ii video next!!

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  6 днів тому +1

      Thanks, man! The S9 is my main travel camera. The video prior to this covers a few of the reasons why I really like it but there is the initial review and camera help guide videos on my channel. Cheers!

    • @tptrsn
      @tptrsn 6 днів тому

      @@GeekyNerdyTechy I ordered one and a couple of prime lenses. It will be fun to try out. Thanks for costing my two and a half grand out of the blue!!! Lol

  • @ablemediaproductions
    @ablemediaproductions 9 днів тому +1

    Great video Shane, covered all the points I love about using the S5II. On the 4 channel audio issue, I noticed you edit with FCP. You probably know this but you can select a box to disable any empty audio channels when importing clips which solves that issue easily. I leave that on now I use as S5II. I’m guessing other NLEs like DaVinci or Premiere might have similar options on import.

  • @anishaandsunjay
    @anishaandsunjay 9 днів тому +1

    That white balance feature on the Sony cameras drove me nuts! Glad it wasn't just me! Great camera, best value in all camera tech IMO. So good I bought 2!

  • @AllThingsFilm1
    @AllThingsFilm1 10 днів тому +2

    I don't shoot a lot of slow motion. But, having PDAF at 60p and 120p would be nice. I'm hoping they can change that with a firmware update. Since the S9 has the same sensor, I would hope it that such a change is possible. That being said, I use DaVinci Resolve for all of my editing, color grading and visual effects work for my videos, And Resolve has fantastic tools for slowing footage down in post without a noticeable loss in image quality. The few times I've done that, the results have been very good.
    As far as adding camera info to an external monitor, that really isn't an issue for me. The last time I had a camera transfer info to an external monitor, the information was baked into the footage. Even still, I can look down at the camera's LCD screen and see the information, settings and all, quite easily, Even on bright days, the text on the LCD still stands out from what I'm used to seeing. I also have a velcro sun hood that I can quickly strap onto the camera's monitor and make it easier to see the screen.
    I have the S5ii, and to be honest, it is my favorite camera to date. The image quality is noticeably better than the FX30 I had before. And LUMIX skin tones and overall color rendition is as close to what I see with my own eyes as I've ever seen from a camera.

  • @Dogen
    @Dogen 6 днів тому +1

    Wonderful review!

  • @bngabbott
    @bngabbott 6 днів тому

    I’ve had my S5M2X a month. I got a great deal buying the 14-28, 20-60, and the 70-300. The 14-28 was essentially free, 20-60 only $200 in the package and the 70-300 was $100 off, Great value. The viewfinder is a bunch better than the Fuji xt4 I had. The focus in either mode is better than the Fuji. The manual focus works great, I’ve set mine to linear focus with 300 degree throw. The zoom lenses are bigger, but are meeting my needs for my personal travel photography. The ability to have higher iso making good images makes up for any advantage primes might have for me. The weight difference from Fuji to this is not that noticeable. The high res mode is fascinating. I’ve got much to learn about all the different modes and settings for sure. I got the X 80% for the blacked out look, and 20% for the upgraded video. Peace

  • @JoJoProductions_NL
    @JoJoProductions_NL 8 днів тому +1

    I found also the 4-channel audio annoying, but in DaVinci it's at least very easy to fix:
    Select all your clips in the media 'workspace', right click -> clip properties. Go to the audio tab, remove the last three tracks and change the first from mono to stereo, and done.
    Sounds like a lot but you do it in a few seconds, and for all clip's at the same time.

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  7 днів тому +1

      Great tip! The same thing also works in Final Cut Pro. Cheers 😊👍

  • @Valerossi0
    @Valerossi0 9 днів тому +3

    I hope they fix or make constant preview better, since its unworkable on longer exposure times and takes long to process. Other brands does it better. Beside that I love my s5II

  • @PhilHover
    @PhilHover 9 днів тому +2

    Firmware request. Read timecode/sync from Deity/tentacle from the audio 3.5mm. Timecode is one of the big things missing from the S1H. FX3/30 have it from the USB port. We just need it in the 3.5. Add menu option to read timecode from 3.5mm.

    • @marin_real_estate_photography
      @marin_real_estate_photography 9 днів тому

      I think only BlackMagic will write tomecode as Metadata to the file when capturing audio timecode through the 3.5mm audio port. It would be great if Panasonic could do that too. Even better would be dedicated timecode in port, as well as a second usb-c port so we can have power via usb- as well as record to SSD.

  • @andrewthomas6505
    @andrewthomas6505 7 днів тому

    Thanks a lot, I enjoyed this vid. You mention that you normally shoot in MP4 or MOV, which is also what interests me for the same reasons... It would be interesting if you could speak about your S511X camera settings in these codecs?

  • @oregonduc
    @oregonduc 10 днів тому +2

    I'm thinking of replacing my Fujifilm XH2S and Sony A7R3 with a Panasonic possibly when the S1H series are updated with the PDAF. The IBIS will help with my uneven walking I have physically instead of carrying a gimbal all over lol. Too bad the volcanoes aren't erupting right now on Hawaii island, would be a nice side trip for you to record.

  • @pashavybach
    @pashavybach 10 днів тому +8

    You maybe the only UA-camr who directly says about this camera issues. It can be solved though firmware update but, if no one talks - panasonic don't care.

  • @pxperimenter
    @pxperimenter 9 днів тому +3

    My wishes for a firmware update:
    - User-switchable APS-C crop mode, for stills photography (including Raw) as well as for 24-30fps videography. Currently, APS-C crop mode is only engaged when attaching electronically coupled APS-C lenses.
    - More choices/options for the high-speed photography burst rates, such as 15fps and 20fps. Currently, we only have 9fps and 30fps.

    • @FilmFlab
      @FilmFlab 9 днів тому +1

      You can switch the APS-C mode in stills. I do it all the time! Turn on Ex-Tele mode, then map Picture Size to a custom button, then you can switch to APS-C mode.
      And in video, you can switch to APS-C in 24p-30p as well. In Q mode, you can map it to switch to FULL to APS-C, or you can change it in the resolution settings.

    • @pxperimenter
      @pxperimenter 7 днів тому +1

      @@FilmFlab The ExTele + picture size workaround only works for JPEGs, but does not affect Raw, unlike the APS-C crop modes of other camera manufacturers.
      With a real APS-C crop mode, you would - among others - gain a higher buffer capacity when shooting high-speed Raw burst pictures.

    • @FilmFlab
      @FilmFlab 7 днів тому

      @@pxperimenter Good to know!

  • @enriquemartin8655
    @enriquemartin8655 9 днів тому +1

    Thank you for your presentation.

  • @onnie1968
    @onnie1968 7 днів тому +1

    Awesome vid as always bro, I'm still holding off till we get the new af modes right across the board. Or I'll sell all my Sony gear and maybe just buy the G9II.

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  6 днів тому +1

      It got a firmware update a while ago. Fingers crossed though they get the advanced tracking modes on the next update. Either way, the AF works so well.

    • @onnie1968
      @onnie1968 6 днів тому

      @@GeekyNerdyTechy Thanks mate looking forward to watching your vid on that subject.

  • @jeffb8824
    @jeffb8824 9 днів тому +1

    Really great review!
    At 2:00 when you said you can shoot in v-log and auto exposure mode - did you mean that the s5ii will adjust iso to compensate for exposure while still maximizing dynamic range?
    If so, that's extremely valuable to know!
    I shoot long videos outdoors where the light is constantly changing. Currently in I shoot in autoexposure (Canon) but no log profile because I can't keep it on base ISO.
    I've wanted to use the fx3, c70, or s5ii but can't determine if I can use auto exposures while shooting log.
    Is this possible with the s5ii?
    Thanks so much for all your great and honest videos!

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  9 днів тому +4

      Basically, the auto-exposure on the S5II and X is unreal. It will let you shoot in VLOG and get a properly exposed image when shooting in any of the automatic modes like Aperture, Program, or Shutter. I shoot my videos in Aperture priority and there's very few times I have to pull things around afterwards unless the sun changed drastically. It does a great job auto exposing with Vlog in particular so you don't get any crushed shadows etc.

  • @thegixlad27
    @thegixlad27 6 днів тому +1

    Great video, and a fantastic camera especially for the value for money.
    However, for myself I own a Sony A7S III… unfortunately the S5IIX isn’t enough to make me switch to Panasonic but maybe one day!

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  6 днів тому +1

      I had one of those for a few years, great cameras. I just couldn't handle the IBIS but otherwise, it's a great option. :)

  • @alexandernikolichpatananan2890
    @alexandernikolichpatananan2890 6 днів тому

    Great video! Question - you said you change the natural profile and nicest lut for the real-time lut. Could you share the settings you change? Thank you!

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  6 днів тому

      I'll add it to the list for this month cheers! :)

  • @mex5341
    @mex5341 9 днів тому +2

    s5IIx on a sale now with 20-60 & 50 mm for 2100 usd

    • @marin_real_estate_photography
      @marin_real_estate_photography 8 днів тому

      That's a sweet deal. I got the same package deal earlier this year and it was $2,200

    • @mex5341
      @mex5341 8 днів тому

      @@marin_real_estate_photography i got my s5II no X for 1800$ year ago , I wish I paid a few hundreds more for X

  • @JE2PO
    @JE2PO 9 днів тому +1

    Is the hi res mode good for macro photography?

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  9 днів тому +2

      Depending on your subject, you can. I wouldn't use it for moving insects, but if you've got a static subject, give it a shot. :)

  • @davidmurray5926
    @davidmurray5926 7 днів тому +1

    I sold my S5IIX because as much as I tried to like it I just hate the side hinged rear screen. It made me sad as I loved the camera otherwise. Honestly if it had a tilt screen it would be perfect.

  • @jordanfrankel-securityexpe8666

    Are there enough auto type setting's for both video & still images that a novice could grow into this camera?
    Thanks!!

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  День тому

      100% - you can shoot video or photos in any number of automatic modes. It's worth understanding the basics about photo aspect ratios and video modes but you can absolutely shoot with automatic mode. The camera I used to film this was shot in Aperture priority mode which is mostly auto.

    • @jordanfrankel-securityexpe8666
      @jordanfrankel-securityexpe8666 День тому

      @GeekyNerdyTechy thank you so much

  • @kenyontech
    @kenyontech 10 днів тому

    I just got one of these with the kit lens and the panny 85mm s prime. I can't help but think that I need one faster wider prime. As a compliment to these two lenses what would you suggest. The 35 or 50 or something else? I could probably afford one other prime. The f2.8 zooms are out of my budget right now.

  • @SebastianReick
    @SebastianReick 10 днів тому

    About the AF, I find it strange that - to my knowledge - there is no official information from Panasonic stating in which modes/resolutions/framerates the AF defaults back to DFD instead of PDAF. This should really be part of the manual, and the fact that various youtubers and others had to find this out by various tests gives the impression that Panasonic was deliberately not transparent about this restriction.

  • @liamburke1436
    @liamburke1436 6 днів тому

    The 50 1.8 is soft wide open.

  • @Giovanni-Giorgio
    @Giovanni-Giorgio 7 днів тому

    My biggest problem is the Moire. And it kills me sometimes. But i still shoot product videos with the camera for a big hardware brand.

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  6 днів тому

      I haven’t had an issue with it unless I’m shooting in 1080p at 180fps.

    • @Giovanni-Giorgio
      @Giovanni-Giorgio 6 днів тому

      @GeekyNerdyTechy I have it all the time. On some wide angles more than tele. I sometimes work with mist filters. Many time i have to make sure fine patterns etc. are just out of focus. That is pretty tough with autofocus enabled. With moving/panning shots i need to induce just enough motion blur to avoid the moire. Try filming your monitor, objects with fine lines close to each other or fine patterns.

  • @Princeton_James
    @Princeton_James 10 днів тому

    Id agree about the grip feeling good, but no one talks about the difference between the original G9 vs this newer style. The G9 was perfect. Id put my a6700 2nd and this 3rd.

  • @RCGJR_
    @RCGJR_ 9 днів тому

    For the real time lut part, is it possible to adjust the opacity of the lut in camera?

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  9 днів тому +1

      Yep, you can do that in camera. If you visit the photo styles menu you can easily click down and adjust the slider to any opacity from 10-100%.

  • @vinhsanity
    @vinhsanity 5 днів тому

    It’s basically the same sensor as the original S5 but with PDAF

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  4 дні тому

      Similar sensor, but not the same. PDAF is part of the sensor design on a hardware level I think.

  • @holidaystyles007
    @holidaystyles007 9 днів тому

    I saw you mention the white noise issue with the 4 channel audio which I found to be true. I still find the noise to be higher than what I would have expected even with -18 db and external wireless mics. Some say there is an issue with the preamp being excessively noisy due to under spec coils. Any thoughts on the white noise issue?

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  9 днів тому +2

      The audio is not that noisy. I think a lot of people must have high white noise wireless packs which is pretty common. I've tested a bunch of wireless packs and not all of them are dead quiet. Once you disable the second stereo channel, the audio seems no worse than anything else I have used.

    • @holidaystyles007
      @holidaystyles007 9 днів тому

      @@GeekyNerdyTechythanks you for your response, great video

  • @kenyontech
    @kenyontech 2 дні тому

    If live streaming or Recording long form Video how would you recommend powering this? I have a bunch of NPF batteries but cant find a plate with USB PD that anyone has confirmed would work . I'm not in a position to buy try and return..

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  2 дні тому +1

      USB-PD or dummy battery work fine on this. I use mine all the time for that kind of thing. My S5II multi-camera rig runs off Dummy Batteries that I got off eBay. If you use USB-C PD it needs to support 9V 3A.

    • @kenyontech
      @kenyontech 2 дні тому

      @@GeekyNerdyTechy Thanks .. I'd appreciate if you show that rig some time in the future

  • @83442handle
    @83442handle 9 днів тому +1

    1:25 he likes bokeh almost as much as tony northup!

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  9 днів тому +1

      F1.8 on a 35mm lens. If I only I had the F1.2 glory of TN. 😂

  • @danymirabal
    @danymirabal 10 днів тому

    Did you use the S9 for filming this video ?

    • @aaronwlkr
      @aaronwlkr 9 днів тому +1

      first 2 seconds of the video, its says shot on S9 and S5IIX.

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  9 днів тому +1

      Yep

  • @raizt1596
    @raizt1596 9 днів тому

    You may have said it, but what camera was used to shoot this video?

  • @bigrobotnewstoday1436
    @bigrobotnewstoday1436 10 днів тому

    There is one bug in this camera for photography. Google S5II Electronic Shutter (30fps) Delay

  • @KauaiianTunda
    @KauaiianTunda 9 днів тому

    You still on Oahu?

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  9 днів тому

      Sadly, no. I am back home now. I wish I could have stayed there haha. :)

    • @KauaiianTunda
      @KauaiianTunda 9 днів тому

      @ lol gotcha. I was gonna give you some tips on nice places to check out but it’s all good.

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  9 днів тому

      @@KauaiianTunda Cheers! We will no doubt get back there in a few years all being well. It's a beautiful place :)

  • @JohRyder
    @JohRyder 10 днів тому +1

    🔥

  • @TheGhostplanner
    @TheGhostplanner 6 днів тому

    I am a little surprised that after one and a half years, your criticisms are still the same. Which means that Panasonic has not addressed the main issues via firmware update. Wasn’t Panasonic supposed to be good at delivering substantial updates?

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  6 днів тому

      They added a lot to this camera over the last 12 months. The new autofocus modes, IBIS, and Real-Time LUT are all great upgrades. My main gripes are with the AF Modes for S&Q and the HD50/60p. Hopefully they get it sorted out.

  • @schow2020
    @schow2020 10 днів тому +1

    Good quality. I wish Panasonic had made more professional lenses.

    • @GeekyNerdyTechy
      @GeekyNerdyTechy  10 днів тому +7

      They have the full-frame Panasonic/Leica series ones or you can just buy any Leica or Sigma lens if you need to. Their S Series of primes are great for video production. I've used them a lot over the last couple of years now and perform really well. They might not look as fancy as some of the others out there, but they are solid performers.

    • @danymirabal
      @danymirabal 10 днів тому +3

      @schow2020 😂

    • @newera5119
      @newera5119 10 днів тому +2

      There are plenty of pro lenses for panny's L mount

  • @akkidilbar1
    @akkidilbar1 10 днів тому

    😍

  • @JimMorrisonsBathtub
    @JimMorrisonsBathtub 10 днів тому

    My only problem with my G85 is that it's Micro Four Thirds so if I ever buy another digital camera it'll probably be an S5 (unless Panasonic comes out with something better by the time I'd have enough money to upgrade my camera which seems fairly likely considering how broke I am). Those things look awesome.