Shiny new X Elite laptops
Вставка
- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- The new PC laptops with Snapdragon X Elite are here. Microsoft's keynote and available models discussed,
Run Windows on a Mac: prf.hn/click/c... (affiliate)
Use COUPON: ZISKIND10
🛒 Gear Links 🛒
* 🍏💥 New MacBook Air M1 Deal: amzn.to/3S59ID8
* 💻🔄 Refurb MacBook Air M1 Deal: amzn.to/45K1Gmk
* 🎧⚡ Great 40Gbps T4 enclosure: amzn.to/3JNwBGW
* 🛠️🚀 My nvme ssd: amzn.to/3YLEySo
* 📦🎮 My gear: www.amazon.com...
🎥 Related Videos 🎥
* 🤖 The end of Apple Silicon’s reign - • The end of Apple Silic...
* 🌗 Volterra vs M1 Mac Mini | Visual Studio - • Volterra vs M1 Mac Min...
* 👨💻 15" MacBook Air | developer's dream - • 15" MacBook Air | deve...
* 🤖 INSANE Machine Learning on Neural Engine - • INSANE Machine Learnin...
* 👨💻 Fireship's CPU in 100 Seconds - • How a CPU Works in 100...
* 🛠️ Developer productivity Playlist - • Developer Productivity
- - - - - - - - -
❤️ SUBSCRIBE TO MY UA-cam CHANNEL 📺
Click here to subscribe: / @azisk
Join this channel to get access to perks:
/ @azisk
- - - - - - - - -
📱LET'S CONNECT ON SOCIAL MEDIA
ALEX ON TWITTER: / digitalix
- - - - - - - - -
#Windows #SnapdragonXElite #ARMProcessors
Microsoft threw down the gauntlet with 16 GB minimum. Hopefully, this will wake Apple from their slumber.
Windows needs 16GB, maybe Apple does not?
@@andyH_England umm ? who tho 16GB ram is physically 16gig of ram, yeah you can optimize your OS and use fast swap but 16gig is 16gig. idk how apple got this into peoples head that 8gb on windows is 16gig on mac, your average consumer might not notice it coz well swap exists, but any dev will 100% feel the nerf that 8gig of ram gives.
@@siliconhawk Yes, you are correct. If your workflow is RAM-intensive, like batch photo editing then swap isn’t advised. You need as much RAM as you can afford. But for many of us that use the MB Air for office and casual usage 8GB with swap and compressed RAM can easily be sufficient.
Fr lmao 🤣
@@andyH_England 16 is 16, doesn't matter the OS you are using. since you will use 3rd party apps and that what will eat your ram.
since you will mostly browse the web which (the browser) will eat a lot of ram, 16 is optimal and 8 the the bare minimum, if you will browse the web and use another app besides the browser, 16 is absolutely necessary.
Can't wait to get a framework laptop motherboard with this chip !
I think it will be a few years before a Framework laptop can be found with this chip.
Might take a bit, but with upgradable LPDDR RAM finally being available through LPCAMM2, its definitely doable.
I don't mind if it takes them a few years but LPCAMM2 + ARM + Framework could be very interesting
Really unfortunate they focus on AI solving non-problems.
I wish they launch in India. It proper service centers it will be a huge hit. Especially since India is price sensitive and tech savvy market and since we don't want to spend huge sums of money in laptops every 3 to 6 years depending on the requirements
i LOVE how they put so much work into improving windows just for all of us to want to put linux on it.
Will be almost as good of a Linux machine as well, a nice Apple Silicon machine.
Might as well just buy a Mac
I've used Linux and it's nice but I still prefer Windows a lot more
"All of us" ?
Linux is "put" on 4% of home computers.
want the cpu, dont want the ai bs
"are the fastest Windows PCs...ever"
*64-core threadripper staring weirdly*
7980x laughing comedically.
We are talking about mobile chips, not energy vampire CPU’s here lol
@@GlobalWave1 Yeah. Sure. Except they said it's "the fastest". Didn't mention in what metric. So no, unless they tell us, we go with the default - raw processing power - it is not the fastest.
@@shapelessed okay. Make them tell you then. smh
power usage staring weirdly
try Linux on it
well 😂
Linux is the real deal
Isnt there only one two distros on arm ?
@@basdfgwe The major distros (debian, ubuntu, arch, manjaro,…) all have arm versions.
@@basdfgwe No, there is Arch, Asahi, Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu and many others
Respectfully, they already fixed the translation layer a while ago. The testing on the Voltara hardware was useful, but that machine was still underpowered. If you want a better example of how that’ll run, do some tests in parallels on Windows on ARM. Parallels for WoA is entirely reliant on that windows x86 translation layer. It’s actually great already, and now the hardware is stepping up.
True, this site always throws hat tips to Apple
If only all of Microsoft's applications ran properly on Windows 11 ARM, but they don't.
Yes, I noticed that too. This guy had a negative narrative from the beginning of the video given that none of us have ever tried these laptops
Bro, have you seen the new Snapdragon Elite X dev kit mini pc announced ? 😱😱😱
I have yes, just about few minutes ago. Got on the waitlist
@@AZisk the new elite dev kit made me reconsider getting the laptop version and go with that mini instead. And for a new laptop maybe I go with an Amd strix point model likely being announced during Computex in a couple weeks. Then I get the best of both worlds to test against each other.
@@AZisk You're on a roll
@@LarsRyeJeppesenmore like a downward spiral 😂
@@AZisk -- when was the last time you fired up the ol' Volterra? Maybe there's some preliminary insight into how far they have made it with Win11 on ARM...? They put some healthy specs on that thing not that long ago...still, I put mine away nearly a year ago needing space. I bet if I could remember where I placed it & got it up & running, there'd surely be some improvement....(?)
Now can have MS screen capturing ur entire computer even faster and uploading to their servers.
And selling it to the CIA and FBI, so they can use it against you, when you politically go against their hellish plans.
Sounds wonderful
You know you can turn it off?
Choice and competition is great
Apple appreciates the free advertising !
Yeah your right. Other manufacturers have to stop using their name.
Everyone knows about their M series chips, so talking about how these chips are as efficient as those makes sense
linux on those machines interests me most, go for it!! subscribed for your future updates!
I'm curious how's software development on these pcs. I hate reviewers who only show benchmarks and not more demanding (ie. not browsing the web and watching videos) everyday tasks.
and those who only show video editing like the world revolves around them
Hopefully you use Linux if you're a developer.
He can use wsl, so he'd be fine.
@@LarsRyeJeppesen wsl
@@antonioytm that is all good, an absolute must
Personally, I think if Apple hasn't started the ARM race then the rest of the manufacturers would not be interested, may be. Apple revolutionised this technology world with it's first ever M1 chip in 2020. Everyone should agree with this.
Intel Lunar lake is speculated to be 1.5* more powrful than Xelite in most aspects.
Competition creates miracles.
While I'm rooting for Intel, it surely won't be 50% faster or more powerful than Snapdragon X Elite. Because Lunar Lake is quite low power, and it has few cores. I think it will be a very good chip though, M-chips levels of battery, toe to toe in performance for most metrics. And a great handheld chip.
Intel Arrow Lake is apparently the one with high number of cores and big performance, with less emphasis on low energy. I mean, it won't need the amounts that Raptor Lake did, but it won't run well at 20W, more like 40-100W. For 16-18" laptops it should be a beast. I hope. And I also hope Framework 16 will have a mobo for it soon. I can't wait to replace my almost 8 year old laptop. But nothing that's currently on the market does it for me.
@@Winnetou17 They have promised a combined of 100+TOPs which does mean that at AI performance can be 1.4*Xelite as the Xelite delivers arround 75TOPs.
All isn't Arrow lake supposed to succeed the Ultra series of processors and the Lunar lake is successding Intel's normal range..
@@boltez6507 Oooh, on the TOPS side. That one I didn't check out.
Yeah, Arrow Lake will be on the more power and performance demanding laptops + desktops.
- Should've been Windows 12.
- Options are always good. I can't wait to buy one of these next year used or open box for half the price.
I want to see ML benchmark tests using TensorFlow, PyTorch, and local LLMs with Llama3 70B. Also, I want to see how these machines perform with/without a power adapter.
LLama3 70B wont fit even on the maxed out 32 GB machine considering windows will eat at least 8 GB of RAM and LLama3 70B will at least need 36GB of RAM. My MacBook Pro is the only device that will run it on normal speed compared to my 4090 that doesn't have enough RAM so its slow.
Apple Mx-series is better due to unified memory architecture. Also, according to Geekbench 6 benchmarks, single-core performance for most laptops with X Elite is mediocre - 2300-2400, this is level Apple M1 chip from 2020, mainly because these laptops come with X Elite X1E78100
Yeah. I'll get one in 2 years. For now, I'll stick with my i9 with 64GB of RAM and 4TB of SSD storage.
These machines are very appealing. The only real Achilles' heel that is left are drivers on ARM (if no ARM versions exist, you are SoL..at least on Windows. On Linux, that is not a problem).
In any case, it's great for consumers (and PC OEMs) to finally have an option other than Intel and AMD.
Whenever I hear A.I., I think of the SNL Beavis and Butthead skit
They're comparing to apple m3 air... Wouldn't be more accurate to compare to the pro line?
Besides the obvious tests of hwo they perform with linux maybe a dive into the ecosystem of ARM-ready software for Windows, what is available right now, what is expected to be adapted soon.
And maybe even the same for Linux, ARM support is a bit shaky here as well (specifically looking at ALARM) but also third party packaging isn't always available and docker is also often a gamble (though more common thanks to ARM server cpus). But still.
Microsoft never delivers.
The ARM “ported ” software will not have feature parity with the x86 versions.
Which is a bigger waste of a button? The ai button on these laptops or the bixby button on Samsung phones ?
Please do the testing of WSL2 on X elite ... with or without (if they have native version ready) Prism conversion
@@cte-seadinterfaces4323 Why would one need emulate "thing" ? arm based linux has been there ever since the civilization
thanks for not rambling about AI for 10 minutes like everyone else
With all these battery improvements your laptop can cook itself in a backpack even longer thanks to broken sleep mode in windows
To be fair, it’s a bios issue and not entirely Windows fault. After windows 10 laptop manufacturers started defaulting to s0 sleep instead of s3 sleep when plugged into a charger. The issue is the bios doesn’t recognize when the laptop gets unplugged so it keeps it in the same internet connected modern standby if you put it to sleep before unplugging it. So if you get a notification while your laptop is in your backpack it wakes up to try and alert you then never goes back to sleep since it’s in an undefined state now. However, if you unplug your laptop before closing it/put it to sleep it will always default to the proper sleep mode and be fine.
@@crelliseng then if windows is awaken, it can determine if the lid is closed and put it to sleep mode again. Or they can just disable internet connection in sleep mode, tbh can't see why they even added it. Or windows can monitor the charging state alongside the internet connection. I think Microsoft would definitely find a workaround, if they wished to.
@@ruffzy4073 again, it’s a BIOS level issue. Microsoft made the features and the OEMs implemented them. Maybe Windows could override the BIOS settings based on their lid detection state and charging state? Someone from Microsoft commented on Linus’ video on the topic a few years ago, explaining exactly what was happening. But it was unclear if it was something they could fix on their end.
I’m assuming it still happens based on this comment? I haven’t had a laptop roast in my backpack since it started back in 2015 because I always unplug my laptop before closing the lid. Once I formed that habit it became a none issue to me.
I can't tell you how excited I am for these SnapDragon Laptops.
I have an XPS 13 Plus and a 14' M1 Pro MacBook.
I absolutely love Windows, the absolutely stunning, sexy and premium look, feel and build of the XPS. And that OLED Display with no Bezels? Ohh my God.
But I hate its battery life. I've never gotten more than 4-5 hours with it.
My MacBook gives me more than 8-9 hours [at times even 10], with the exact same applications and stuff running on it.
Which is insane. Also factor in that the XPS only has a 60Hz Display, as opposed to my MacBook which runs at 120Hz. And the MacBook has a slightly larger Display as well ofc.
If SnapDragon can bring this level of efficiency and battery life to Windows laptops, I'm definitely picking one up.
Thanks for another very informative and ilustrative video Alex. Have a great day!
Can't wait for Galaxy Edge 🥰
Emerald Green
For upgradability, things looks not that bad : I've read HP and Dell propositions : +16GO : 150$, SSD from 512 to 1TB : +150$ and HP indicated a 2242 SSD. Yeah I would have prefer 2280, but heh...
Yes... battery life is the main reason why I used macbook and iPad for mobile. But as my main daily driver for work and personal use, I used Linux based kernel operating system for short we just call it Linux. Since i notice Microsoft were prone to virus, malware, spyware, adware and all of those stuff and Google annoying ads. i just use all Linux apps. It just gave me a peace of mind.
I'm excited for non-SOC variants of ARM to take off, much cheaper at this point
I’m a Mac user, primarily, but I do need windows sometimes. I’ve been thinking about getting a Windows computer anyway, might give one of these ago.
I would wait on this, except you are a developer and just curious :). A lot of stuff won't work properly, that is for sure.
I can’t wait to try it next week, I have the yoga with core 7 ultra but the battery life and heat issues are still unacceptable
Can't wait to see if these work well on Linux! Qualcomm has upstreamed quite a few patches for Linux.. but the rest are still upcoming. So, we might have to wait for a bit still..
I hear all have upgradeable ssds.
Come on apple.
The samsung being the only one with the top sku, but only offering 16gb of ram is such an odd scenario.
Surely those after the top sku would also be after 32gb ram options.
The only reason I bought windows laptops are for video games and Linux. I really hope this ARM race can push the video game and Linux industry to develop and optimize their products for ARM, so I don’t need to carry my 100 tons charger, a noise cancelling headphone, a water cooler and a car battery with me all the time.
32gb should be standard if you cannot upgrade later.
Qualcomm is adding drivers to mainline kernel if you believe them, some parts are already in 6.9 but full support should land in 6.11
Thank you for this. Was looking forward to your reaction. 👍🏾
I only have a boring request which I think the majority won’t care about and that was to see how Microsoft Power BI runs on these machines. That’s pretty much the peak of my technical use case 😂
I run Power Bi desktop on Windows on ARM with Parallels on my MacBook Pro, bit slow to start, but once started it works as expected.
@@dgloverau yes, I’ve heard and seen reviews where it runs actually pretty decent on a Mac using parallels. It’s just that Mac emulation is very good isn’t it? This will be my validation that Microsoft and snapdragon got it right with their emulation engine but thank you.
“58% faster than the most advanced MacBook Air with the M3 processor”.
So, they’re up to 58% faster (multi-core) than Apple’s entry level machine from 14 months ago? We should all run out and get one ASAP. 🙄
It's not like Apple has big gains from their previous M2 chips
@@crestofhonor2349 Yes, they do. The M4 is about 18% faster single core, 25% multi-core, and 100% for the neural engine, and those are vs M3. They’re much faster than M2 and M1.
But the real competition is comparing to the M3 Pro/Max or M4 Pro/Max when they ship (probably next month, but who knows since Apple hasn’t officially announced them yet). When compared to the M3 Pro (11/12 core), the X-Elite doesn’t hold much of an advantage, it loses badly in single core but is marginally faster in multi-core. Compared to the M3 Max, it’s not even close.
@@geoffstrickler The X Elite was compared to the M3 not the M3 Pro. These chips aren't designed around competing with the Pro and Max variants
@@crestofhonor2349 Nonsense. They are 10-12 core units with all being “performance” cores. Don’t try claiming that comparing to an M2/M3 with 4 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores is the target comparison. The M2 Pro is 6/8 P cores plus 4 efficiency cores. The M3 Pro is 5/6 P cores + 6 efficiency cores.
Let not act like that’s a small feat. When has apple had 58% increase from one gen to the next (around a year aka 14 months)? When is that EVER normal? I’m an apple user but I’m not gonna belittle the competition’s achievement bc of blind brand loyalty
Software compatibility is what I care about most about microsoft AI PC.
I hope these give the M series Apple machines some competition for efficiency and Apple finally ups the minimum specs. 8/256GB for $1k is just kind of nuts.
Can you test Davinci Resolve / Editing Programs on these Laptops? This would be sooo helpful. Thank you in advance. :)
YES, you're right! BATTERY (while keeping a high performance unplugged) is the stronghold here.
It’s so funny that they’re even copying the Apple configuration GUI 😂
Nah many.have used a similar way before apple when apple still allowed diy upgrades.
Can’t wait you to compare with macs
7:36 yes Lenovo is telling you in the detail on the left X1E78100… AI Hallucinations?
LG grams have been lasting all day for years up to 20 hour video playback.
Its not the fastest but you can easily do 15 hours light work.
@@anantmalik most mac centric channels are and repeat the same tired talking points mostly just light hearted jabs in fun, which are at times actually true but not always.
Finally. Now we "just" need the software 😬
Please do test Linux and WSL2 🙏
(Also I hope they change the name, Copilot Plus PC is a bit silly.)
Imagine battery life with a Chromebook version of these chips...
@@cte-seadinterfaces4323 It's better for most people. Are you ok?
Im a desktop man. The ability to upgrade ram and storage at an affordable price is king for me. I never was a fan of laptops because of their inferior performance compared to a desktop machine.
The Surface Laptop goes from $999 to $1399 from Plus to Elite because it also upgrades storage from 255GB to 512GB.
snapdragon x elite is gonna be crazy performance
Yay for competition!!! Macbook m3 pro 16" user here, and I'm down for it!
If anything, Intel and AMD will have to deal with the biggest blows here.
About the battery, they should simply go back to the dual battery modular design in the Lenovo T480
Thanks for the great review, keen to see battery life tests especially using Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) running node on Surface Pro. I've been looking for tablet device i can do coding on the run and hoping the new chips can deliver on that dream that previous surface and IpadOS has failed at.
It sounds like Snapdragon X seems very powerful and EXPENSIVE. I'm a casual user, who don't need copilot right now. I wonder why MS and qualcomm don't work on a more affordable less powerful laptops? Not everyone can afford expensive snapdragon X (and Macbooks). If I'm buying a core i3, won't equivalent ARM be a better choice. To me it seems like qualcomm is missing a great opportunity.
Only interested in how the penguin will perform on these.
Technically, MSFT has been working with Qualcomm for a long time. I was there, the first bootcamp for windows mobile 7 (um windows phone...um...). That's already Windows architecture (a migration from previous pocketpc, windows ce, windows mobile, which is more linux/embedded like)
what people are not talking about is how microsoft is now throwing intel under the bus years after Apple did it first. Intel should really up their game in consumer as well as workstation laptops
Im gonna waiting reviews Microsof Surface Laptop, HP Elitebook and Dell Latitude and then choose from them.
For the Surface laptop it is more for both the upgraded processor and storage space...
Laptops are all soldered to hell… upgradability was minimal anyway. Desktops will be the more cost/power efficient option - but not portable.
I want a Mac Studio competitor.
should be cool to see a chromebook with one of these.
chromeOS is weak and can't get full advantage of such chips
its like pairing ipadOS with an M4 chip
@@azexy21 yeah but the low end snapdragon chips should work well and be power efficient. Not to mention cheap
@@ashishpatel350 good idea, also please no fan with these lower end chips :)
This is their M1 moment... but 4 years later. I'm so deeply settled in MacOS that I'm controlling it via terminal and shortcuts. It would take compelling hardware, software, data privacy, price, ongoing support and an active second hand market to win me back.
This is a complete downgrade. That arm64 push is here to force again another obsolescence wave. Cuz, power consumption is their only argument to justify those chips. Will keep my x86 current system. Yes, it's way hungry compared to those arm chips. But comes with a level of compatibility ARM chips will take years to actually be considered "usable".
Only 10% of market apps natively compatible. 90% emulated and badly ported. And they are actually being charged more than a x86 machine with the same specs.
I hate that these ARM PCs are bringing forth the appliance style of computing where you can't upgrade anything yourself.
I will never buy a computer I can't upgrade.
Which laptop would you get then?
The price you oay for 20hr battery life
I was really surprised how good the prices were for the Surface. I'll be waiting for the next gen before I buy but I got my eye on the 15 inch Surface laptop
kinda want an ARM headless Plex set up. Something like 4-6 cores, 8-16GB RAM, low end video GPU, and 2-4GB SSD. Wonder what the pricing on something that that would be? Maybe running some super optimized Linux for Plex usage.
YESS been waiting for this
5:59 "apples to asus comparison" funny xD
Windows on Arm? ehh, PTSD from the Surface RT
weird how laptops are very similar in price but some give you OLED screens on top of X Elite for about same prices.. cool) BTW Surfaces start with $1599 if you want OLED
Asus Vivobook S15 ARM with 120Hz OLED Screen, 32GB LPDDR5X and 1TB SSD at 1399€ - best bang for the €buck!
I am quite enthusiastic in tech but certainly professional but i am still starting to love your channel! Can't wait for you to test these laptops with linux compatibility and arm chips of windows vs apple's arm chips. Moreover, i already experienced gaming laptop (still using now) and thinking of current busineess/work styled laptop with P varient of intel processor but I think i'll wait for arm chips for battery life as in few years i will go ccollege
I hope the surface pro will be on your test, as a game developer it's a very interesting machine (I have the surface pro 8 and it runs unity, blender, Godot, no problem) and the boost in power with the elite will be perfect to work on the go and do some design :) Thanks for this video, very nice and informative!
Test before and after installing an antivirus ...
Run Linux
Cannot wait to have our Linux laptops on this architecture. Actually, if this forces Intel and AMD to make competitive devices, I would not care if I stick to X86/64, either. Laptops will look a lot different in 2 years.
They already do if you have a Mac.
@@Äpple-pie-5k M1&co. only kind of work with Linux. But that is not official support, we need real drivers etc.
The 16gb rams are what stopped me from getting a Mac
I think this is not the right comparison.
The correct comparison is between the MacBook Pro series and these Snapdragon laptops, because these laptops come with enough external ports for communication and a wide choice between storage and RAM memory.
Something that you are limited - price with MacBook Air.
when you scroll to the specs on Lenovo it gives you the sku
All this is great news for gaming on the MAC. More and more games will run on ARM chips natively. What will happen in the future with the Playstation? Will game developers have 2 versions of games? One for ARM PCs and Macs and another for X86 based Playstation? Is the next PlayStation going towards ARM as well?
You'll still have to use work arounds, as they still wouldn't be designed for mac. I also doubt devs will develop for these mobile laptops when the majority of the market will still be on x86.
Playstation is plugged in at all times, so there's literally no reason for them to rush to arm. Would screw any backwards compatible they had too. The only devices really benefitting from this are mobile devices that need to have good battery life.
Why is Microsoft comparing the Surface models with a Snapdragon X (Elite) CPU to the MacBook Air? The MacBook AIr is an entry level MacBook. It will be interesting to see a review of these new laptops, but I'm more interested in Microsoft porting its applications to ARM.
I've been running a beta version of Windows 11 ARM for months in a VM on my M3 MacBook Pro MAX. While it runs without noticeable slowdown, it doesn't run all software needed for a complete development environment to write software targeting SQL Server (and Microsoft has yet to port all of its applications to ARM). I still have to carry a second Intel based MacBook Pro for Windows development.
I think this laptop in combination with Linux would be a beast!
The snapdragon x elite processor looks ultra-powerful, and it's the first time snapdragon has released a pc with a processor.
We’ll see about emulated drivers
Competition is always good for us
Cant wait for performance testing - i'm due for a new PC
I will buy one of those machines to put linux on. My greatest regret with macbooks is not being able to use linux on them (natively). I truly hope they are supporting linux in the correct way. Windows for ARM is OK at best. Linux in the other hand set the true path of the warrior.
You can use WSL 2. It works perfect
The comparisons with MacBook Air M3 are most likely with 8GB of RAM in RAM heavy processing tasks
The upgradability was the issue I was curious about.
this is a downgrade my budd. stick to current x86. arm is not the future.
Can’t also wait to test those Chinees boards with a built in cpus.
At least we can expect that the M4 Air and Pros will be 16gb min. It will be difficult for Apple to beat this laptops with pricing though. Also, you can buy a Surface Pro with this chip, which is a Laptop + Tab in one device, which is much better value imo.
Plus storage is still user upgradable
Just remember there are other things than raw hardware specs. Anyone using an Apple will probably (me included) say that the trackpad and keyboard is leagues better than other laptops. Hopefull this changes as well. I can't use these flimsy keyboards/trackpads on those Dell or Acer machines.
@@LarsRyeJeppesen Lenovo laptops have great keyboards. Trackpads are also much better than even 5 years ago for most windows laptops
I moved to a MacBook because I was so frustrated with Intel PC battery life. I am looking forward to see if the Snapdragon lives up to what they are promising so I can move back to something that has 32GB of RAM that is affordable. (not Apple)
The Snapdragon Elite X Dev Kit at $899 (shipping June 18) looks far more interesting than these new laptop models.
I am actually very hyped about a cheaper, fully compatible arm laptop running Ubuntu or fedora. I know there is asahi Linux but it is not fully supported and never will be
I'm still wary of all their benchmark claims but I have to admit I'm looking forward to an ARM laptop and maybe a mini PC (here's hoping) in the future.
are any of the laptops going to be fanless???
nope