Nice job guys. I've got PF's frontloader on a 1983 Craftsman GT18 with B&S opposed twin it's still going strong after almost 10 years. My budget was a bit tight so I didn't build the backhoe, but now you got me itching again.
Very nice guys, it will be something you use a lot. I have a 1970ish Bolan Ten50 lawn tractor I had the same plans for before my disability. Maybe in the future, I'm not dead yet. Great job, I'll be watching.
Great job on the build. I did the same build to a JD 322 about 6 years ago. If you search John deere 322 backhoe you'll find it. After 6 years its still going strong. I did a foot pedal hydro conversion at the same time. Hard to work an fel and move forward and backward without a third arm. Again, great job!
Wow you guys did an awesome job! It just about looks factory (except for the controls)! Very impressive. I had to subscribe just because of the amount of work you put into this!
Do you have anything on your front loader build? Specifically the pump you used and the location and drive for the pump. Awesome build and video guys, just outstanding, all!
Hey guys do you think I could get the dims on your project?? I have an old rally mower I want to do this with I love the way your project turned out as far as in concerned it's the best build I've seen period and after you painted it it look like you bought it like that very impressive💪👌👍👏
Those controls resemble some old backhoes and some case backhoes and some people refer to them as piano controls. People who use those for many years often develop huge knuckles. John Deere and some other brands of backhoes came up with conversion lever sets for their backhoes so you take the lever set off and replace it with a different lever set for different controls and the valves are never moved or changed. You just pull the lever set off of the backhoe and replace it with a different leverset and the connecting rods/linkage would go to different valves. You get at least three different lever sets for the same set of valves for Cat, John Deere and case. True story: I was on a construction job and the rental company was supposed to send out a John Deere with John Deere controls. The backhoe that they sent out had case controls on it and they had to send a mechanic out to change the lever set. It took the mechanic about 15 minutes to replace the lever sets, but they hooked up one lever wrong and I had to fix it after they left. Intead of having a plus + pattern it had a slanted X pattern to that lever. I had to move one connecting rod to fix it. Our company had to back charge my repair to the rental company. 😀
Your mini backhoe was quite impressive but you should do some modifications you can easily get a full 90 degree swing to each side. If you have questions feel free to get hold of me after ten pm days. I am busy during the day usually.
Great job fellas... I think if the tractor had a bit more weight for stabilizing the backhoe it would go a lot faster... But really nice job just the same...
If you guys built one after watching this or Norman from I save tractors let me know in comment below. I would love to see more on these of plans. About to order them myself. I was a class A excavator operator and see a few tuning tricks I would love to try. Also when your learning to dig the deeper you go the slower you curl the bucket for maximum excavation. Great build guys loved it.
Nice build. I wish you would show how the pump is hooked up to motor. I was thinking of using a 200 series john deere. What kind of pump. What size cylinders. Where you got them.
I built the front end loader using PF engineering plans with my Yamnar 1500. One thing I noticed is these tractors simply aren't heavy enough for practical front end loader use and lack power without having 4x4. Just my 2 cents. Sold the tractor with loader and purchased a Skid.
Hi, I am planning to build this back hoe setup on a Bolens in the next year or so. Could you guys go over how you did the hydraulics? I don't understand why none of the guys that make the videos for these back hoe builds explain how the hydraulics work. Thank you for your time. I really liked the videos on the build. It helped me a lot.
So far so good, I have around 12 hours with the the backhoe and about 28 hours since I rebuilt the engine. I have dug up and repaired my sewer line. Replaced my basement window well. Buried railroad ties to edge my driveway. Dug a pit to roast a hog. And dug up 4 or 5 tree stumps, max size was about 8 inches. Its something I dont use everyday, but when I need it I am 100% glad I have it!
Well done! I am weighing the options of a small loader backhoe for my Wheel Horses or to just revive the John Deere 1010 ‘hoe I picked up last year! It seems like your mount does flex the rear of the frame quite a bit. Could you tie in the loader and backhoe frames for more rigidity?
Yeah it flexes more than I want it to. I will strengthen it up a bit. I need to raise it up about 4 inches. I get stuck driving over uneven terrain, lol
looks beautiful. Just cant figure why you would put all that effort into a project and then use single action valves when you could have done it with 3 spaced out to allow the side action. yes it would have been about 2-3 times the cost, but you spent far more on the steel and now that I think about it, you would have saved from less connections and the response would not be as jerky since the common bleed line would absorb much of the fluid stop and start momentum
I have had these plans since may. And want to hit it! I and going with joystick for controls but wanted feedback on gpm pump used for this build u have an older 1977jd 316 with 16hp Kohler and plan on rebuilding my front mount diy loader to mid mount with backhoe. Yoh said hose size are to small what would you recommend 1/2"? What gpm pump did you use? Single stage or dual stage. What psi are you using? And do you find it has enough power or is it lacking? I ha e 40plus h on 2 to 11ton excavators and I am scared il never be happy lol Also if you were to start over would you pay a company to cnc cut the parts? My plasma is an junk amazon I do t think jts up to the task
We used an 8 gpm pump. I think 1/2 inch would be better suited, (for the backhoe) I really have to feather the controls to get fluid movement, maybe its just my controls. Once I increased the psi at the controls it seemed to help. Its just a single stage pump, probably around 2000 psi, though I have never tested it. As far as power, I wish I had a little more hp. 16 that you have would be perfect for this. I have come close to stalling the engine while digging. I've dug a new window well for my basement, buried railroad ties to line my driveway, dug up sewer lines, and dug up various tree stumps (biggest was about 8in in diameter). for tree stumps i really have to use the teeth to chop the roots before i can really dig them up. The loader on the other hand is perfect! It has lifted and carried everything I have thrown at it! I absolutely love this for what it is. A lawn mower that is now a loader with a backhoe, and is 100% Hand built. If I have the chance to build them again on a different size tractor I would. 300 or 400 series. the hydro transmission would be super nice, lol It would be nice to have the parts cnc cut, but no I would not have paid anyone to cut them for me. My plasma cutter was only $300 shipped to my door. Our next project is a DIY cnc plasma cutter, we will definitely give the cheap plasma cutter a work out!
I built one about a year ago. Put it on a 445 john Deere that I totally redone. The backhoe alone with everything cost me about 3 grand. I don"t know how you got by so cheap, mine wasn"t even close to what you said.
Well done guys, I was wondering if you had any photos of how you attached the loader to the underside of the tractor. I am getting ready to build this same loader for my 210 as well
Excellent work, I noticed other videos of this same Backhoe being demonstrated ad they all did what yours does, Talking about the "slop or play" as the boom moves from side to side. Is this caused by to much play in the bushings? or perhaps not enough leverage at the cylinder connection? Or a flow restrictor? I wonder what changes to the design could be made to fix this issue. By the way I think your build is the nicest one I have seen so far; so I am not criticising your work in any way. Excellent craftsmanship.
This Hoe looks like the one from PF Engineering. I watched a video no more than 2hrs ago on an old cub cadet that was exactly like this. So anybody can build this exact model. Wouldn't be surprised if the loader build came from there too.
Awesome build guys. I had no hesitations giving you a thumbs up and clicking the subscribe and alarm buttons! lol How are you mounting and driving your hydraulic pump exactly?
Yeah I still need to fix that. It hasnt been a real issue yet. I have actually found that being able to swing a full 90 degrees has come in handy a few times.
What is the flow rate of the pump you used ? I'm working on the planes for a loader and backhoe for a modded Sears ST-12 GT and well I have no idea what size pump I need. I've extended the frame 6" and have a 16 Briggs and stratton Vanguard engine for it.
Going with larger rams where possible will slow the jerky actions. I put 3" rams on both the main boom and crowd arm. Using Grizzly rams, I had a limited choice on sizes. They now show 2 1/2 X 10 in the lower priced rams for the bucket and stabilizers. How does yours do when swinging right? Video made it look like it might not do well. Mine is on a 1973 16 HP MTD Garden Tractor.
I am impressed!!!!
WOW what a great project! I didn’t even know plans like this existed. I have a 425 and a 445, time to start a mini backhoe of my own!!!
Nice build
Nice job guys. I've got PF's frontloader on a 1983 Craftsman GT18 with B&S opposed twin it's still going strong after almost 10 years. My budget was a bit tight so I didn't build the backhoe, but now you got me itching again.
What a build, and what nice dirt! Congrats on the hard work paying off! I am inspired.
Thank you, can't wait to see what you build!
Awesome job fellows, very nice, I will be doing the same on a older cub cadet, hope mine comes out good like that one!
I followed you with a build of my own ,took me 6 months for the metal and a month for the paint and fit to the lawn tractor
P.F. Engineering is having a 25% off sale on all plans all October 2023 to celebrate our 25 years in business!
Very nice guys, it will be something you use a lot. I have a 1970ish Bolan Ten50 lawn tractor I had the same plans for before my disability. Maybe in the future, I'm not dead yet. Great job, I'll be watching.
Thank you very much, we already have quite a few things planned for it, it will definitely get some use!
Excellent build, hi from Australia.
Amazing! I had this idea and talked to my husband about it. Had no idea someone has done it - so cool!! Barbara McMahan
UNFCKIN REAL.....AWSOME JOB GUYS...like to know how you guys built the front loader ? COOL JOB LOVE IT
Damn nice backhoe, well done congrats on the build !
All I can say is WOW !!!
Great job on the build. I did the same build to a JD 322 about 6 years ago. If you search John deere 322 backhoe you'll find it. After 6 years its still going strong. I did a foot pedal hydro conversion at the same time. Hard to work an fel and move forward and backward without a third arm. Again, great job!
Great video! Found this off the John Deere FB page. Very nice backhoe!
Thank You!!
Awesome job I just subscribed because of the backhoe I have a 1980 314 and hopefully acquiring a 318 here soon
Nice job. I look forward to you building a fully functional mini excavator.
Very Good Job! Also Looks nice, I would like to build one someday. I would probably upgrade the tie rod cylinders to welded cylinders though.
OH HELL YA!!!!! Well done!!!!!
Pretty impressive 👍
Wow you guys did an awesome job! It just about looks factory (except for the controls)! Very impressive. I had to subscribe just because of the amount of work you put into this!
Do you have anything on your front loader build? Specifically the pump you used and the location and drive for the pump. Awesome build and video guys, just outstanding, all!
I liked and subscribed. You guys did an awesome job. I can’t wait for the next project
It's a thing of beauty
Great build . Watched all 7 parts and plan on ordering plans from P.F. Engineering .Thank you . Good job . I wish you had said the depth of your dig .
did you get the project detals from p.f engineering ? how much bugs you paid
Great job on the 210bacoe I have my own 210 I am vaery jells
Great project at a very low price, but the piano style controls cause a heck of a lot of snatchy movements, Massey Ferguson style. Bravo...
Looks nice
Man that's awesome
Very nice 💯
That is a sweet little beast wonzder how cub would do shaft drive models if ur familiar with themm
Do you have a video on the loader
wow! awesome job!
Hey guys do you think I could get the dims on your project?? I have an old rally mower I want to do this with I love the way your project turned out as far as in concerned it's the best build I've seen period and after you painted it it look like you bought it like that very impressive💪👌👍👏
Those controls resemble some old backhoes and some case backhoes and some people refer to them as piano controls. People who use those for many years often develop huge knuckles.
John Deere and some other brands of backhoes came up with conversion lever sets for their backhoes so you take the lever set off and replace it with a different lever set for different controls and the valves are never moved or changed.
You just pull the lever set off of the backhoe and replace it with a different leverset and the connecting rods/linkage would go to different valves. You get at least three different lever sets for the same set of valves for Cat, John Deere and case.
True story:
I was on a construction job and the rental company was supposed to send out a John Deere with John Deere controls. The backhoe that they sent out had case controls on it and they had to send a mechanic out to change the lever set. It took the mechanic about 15 minutes to replace the lever sets, but they hooked up one lever wrong and I had to fix it after they left.
Intead of having a plus + pattern it had a slanted X pattern to that lever. I had to move one connecting rod to fix it. Our company had to back charge my repair to the rental company. 😀
Made my evening. Thank you. Well done. You ever think about building a root grapple for the front?
Great video series looks factory
Thank you very much!
GOOD JOB...
garden tractor, better than a lawn mower from the beginning.
Your mini backhoe was quite impressive but you should do some modifications you can easily get a full 90 degree swing to each side. If you have questions feel free to get hold of me after ten pm days. I am busy during the day usually.
Great job fellas... I think if the tractor had a bit more weight for stabilizing the backhoe it would go a lot faster... But really nice job just the same...
We have put about 14 hours on it so far, got it working a little faster now!
Nice!
If you guys built one after watching this or Norman from I save tractors let me know in comment below. I would love to see more on these of plans. About to order them myself. I was a class A excavator operator and see a few tuning tricks I would love to try. Also when your learning to dig the deeper you go the slower you curl the bucket for maximum excavation. Great build guys loved it.
ua-cam.com/channels/eh9OKwdI42eWjyviaP70Pg.html
Thats my channel and I'm building one now. Buy them and you won't regret it. Just make sure you ask questions if in doubt
Nice build. I wish you would show how the pump is hooked up to motor. I was thinking of using a 200 series john deere. What kind of pump. What size cylinders. Where you got them.
Appreciate you taking the time to film and make the video. So a sub the least I can do. I'll throw few comments
Ur way to feed the machine
Great build, but its a Garden tractor! Calling that awesome old machine a lawn mower is an insult..lol
Looks great! My only complaint would be not using joystick control valves. But because of cost I’ll give ya a pass on that 😅
I built the front end loader using PF engineering plans with my Yamnar 1500. One thing I noticed is these tractors simply aren't heavy enough for practical front end loader use and lack power without having 4x4. Just my 2 cents. Sold the tractor with loader and purchased a Skid.
Hi, I am planning to build this back hoe setup on a Bolens in the next year or so. Could you guys go over how you did the hydraulics? I don't understand why none of the guys that make the videos for these back hoe builds explain how the hydraulics work. Thank you for your time. I really liked the videos on the build. It helped me a lot.
I agree two ways on hydraulics remote 2 stage or transmission .
I think I saw all of that spray painting without anyone wearing a respirator. Gotta protect those lungs, guys. Great job on the build.
Yes, you are correct. Won't be makimg that mistake again!
Thank you
Yes, I gotta do this myself
What model or kind of hydraulic pump did y’all use and was it hooked to the PTO part of the motor very nice fellas amazing job
Do you guys sell one for x700 series?
i would love to get the plans on that loader.i have 2 jd 300`s,ones for parts and a jd 210.got the 33 tiller and want the loader. thanks
Was wondering how its holding up now you had some time with it. I hopen to get working on mine this winter.
So far so good, I have around 12 hours with the the backhoe and about 28 hours since I rebuilt the engine.
I have dug up and repaired my sewer line.
Replaced my basement window well.
Buried railroad ties to edge my driveway.
Dug a pit to roast a hog.
And dug up 4 or 5 tree stumps, max size was about 8 inches.
Its something I dont use everyday, but when I need it I am 100% glad I have it!
Yes Sir I like it
Well done! I am weighing the options of a small loader backhoe for my Wheel Horses or to just revive the John Deere 1010 ‘hoe I picked up last year! It seems like your mount does flex the rear of the frame quite a bit. Could you tie in the loader and backhoe frames for more rigidity?
Yeah it flexes more than I want it to. I will strengthen it up a bit. I need to raise it up about 4 inches. I get stuck driving over uneven terrain, lol
looks beautiful. Just cant figure why you would put all that effort into a project and then use single action valves when you could have done it with 3 spaced out to allow the side action. yes it would have been about 2-3 times the cost, but you spent far more on the steel and now that I think about it, you would have saved from less connections and the response would not be as jerky since the common bleed line would absorb much of the fluid stop and start momentum
I’m in independence where are you located?
I have had these plans since may. And want to hit it! I and going with joystick for controls but wanted feedback on gpm pump used for this build u have an older 1977jd 316 with 16hp Kohler and plan on rebuilding my front mount diy loader to mid mount with backhoe. Yoh said hose size are to small what would you recommend 1/2"? What gpm pump did you use? Single stage or dual stage. What psi are you using? And do you find it has enough power or is it lacking? I ha e 40plus h on 2 to 11ton excavators and I am scared il never be happy lol
Also if you were to start over would you pay a company to cnc cut the parts? My plasma is an junk amazon I do t think jts up to the task
We used an 8 gpm pump. I think 1/2 inch would be better suited, (for the backhoe) I really have to feather the controls to get fluid movement, maybe its just my controls. Once I increased the psi at the controls it seemed to help.
Its just a single stage pump, probably around 2000 psi, though I have never tested it.
As far as power, I wish I had a little more hp. 16 that you have would be perfect for this. I have come close to stalling the engine while digging. I've dug a new window well for my basement, buried railroad ties to line my driveway, dug up sewer lines, and dug up various tree stumps (biggest was about 8in in diameter). for tree stumps i really have to use the teeth to chop the roots before i can really dig them up.
The loader on the other hand is perfect! It has lifted and carried everything I have thrown at it!
I absolutely love this for what it is. A lawn mower that is now a loader with a backhoe, and is 100% Hand built.
If I have the chance to build them again on a different size tractor I would. 300 or 400 series. the hydro transmission would be super nice, lol
It would be nice to have the parts cnc cut, but no I would not have paid anyone to cut them for me. My plasma cutter was only $300 shipped to my door.
Our next project is a DIY cnc plasma cutter, we will definitely give the cheap plasma cutter a work out!
Can I get plans for this backhoe?
After watching you dig with it, I think you may want to invest in some flow restricters.
I agree! They are a little jumpy, no matter how much I feather it. Should have went with bigger hoses
I built one about a year ago. Put it on a 445 john Deere that I totally redone. The backhoe alone with everything cost me about 3 grand. I don"t know how you got by so cheap, mine wasn"t even close to what you said.
Your tractor was to close to the stump. Move back a little. You will notice it will work better. cool vid.
Well done guys, I was wondering if you had any photos of how you attached the loader to the underside of the tractor. I am getting ready to build this same loader for my 210 as well
Thank you, yeah check out our Facebook page. I have uploaded all of the pictures from the loader build
Excellent work, I noticed other videos of this same Backhoe being demonstrated ad they all did what yours does, Talking about the "slop or play" as the boom moves from side to side. Is this caused by to much play in the bushings? or perhaps not enough leverage at the cylinder connection? Or a flow restrictor? I wonder what changes to the design could be made to fix this issue. By the way I think your build is the nicest one I have seen so far; so I am not criticising your work in any way. Excellent craftsmanship.
This Hoe looks like the one from PF Engineering. I watched a video no more than 2hrs ago on an old cub cadet that was exactly like this. So anybody can build this exact model. Wouldn't be surprised if the loader build came from there too.
Helo thank you
Great job; did you guys build the loader as well, or was that a factory unit?
Thank you, We also built the loader
Awesomw
Awesome build guys. I had no hesitations giving you a thumbs up and clicking the subscribe and alarm buttons! lol How are you mounting and driving your hydraulic pump exactly?
Thanks, we mounted it with a lovejoy coupler directly to the engine shaft. Removed the pulley that use to drive the mower deck
Cool
Needs wheels weights. Nice work
Looks good but should of fixed the swing to both left and right
Yeah I still need to fix that. It hasnt been a real issue yet. I have actually found that being able to swing a full 90 degrees has come in handy a few times.
Looks good you guys ! I would like to see a video of it in normal speed though and with the sound of the tractor running.
We are planing to, just wanted to get a little more time using it so it would be bearable to watch, lol
great guys what part of the country are you in?
Kansas
bom dia eu quero adquirir o projeto desse braço como devo fazer
What is the flow rate of the pump you used ? I'm working on the planes for a loader and backhoe for a modded Sears ST-12 GT and well I have no idea what size pump I need. I've extended the frame 6" and have a 16 Briggs and stratton Vanguard engine for it.
m.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200329712_200329712
This is the pump I bought. Great speed for the loader, a little fast for the backhoeplans
What about the hydraulic, where you guy got it, any recommendation ?
Only good thing was angle grinder with sounds, rest of video some elevator music.
Please send me the drawings .
Show properly how to fitting this all parts.
Going with larger rams where possible will slow the jerky actions. I put 3" rams on both the main boom and crowd arm. Using Grizzly rams, I had a limited choice on sizes. They now show 2 1/2 X 10 in the lower priced rams for the bucket and stabilizers. How does yours do when swinging right? Video made it look like it might not do well. Mine is on a 1973 16 HP MTD Garden Tractor.
I won't one for a 318 John Deere mower
You said B hole hahahaha
Good thing while filming there always another take. 😉
You're a B hole!
It was a joke... Anna is my sister
Lol good old brotherly love.
@@mps3119 you!
Please wear a remote mic next time, thanks.
Trust me, already looking into this. Our audio is horrible
that's kinda being a dick
@@robertsonnenstuhl2506 If you're addressing me, Mr. Sonnenstuhl, if you are without sub-standard hearing, you may cast the first stone.
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Compra il materiale in Italia!
Ti devi fare un mutuo!!
Nice build