Forgotten Firepower | 7.62 cm F.K. 36(r) auf gepanzerte Selbstfahrlafette Sd.Kfz.6/3
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- The expansive and level landscapes of North Africa facilitated swift maneuverability for both Axis and Allied forces during World War II. Nevertheless, this terrain also posed specific difficulties, particularly regarding anti-tank warfare. Conventional anti-tank guns were frequently sluggish and unwieldy, diminishing their effectiveness in the dynamic and rapid desert conditions.
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An article by Marko P
Narrated by Rel Wood
Edited by Brancovich
Sound edited by Rel Wood
I appreciate the editing done in this video, the pictures and captions help me visualize whats being talked about. Well done editor. 👍🏻
You have got to love those German vehicle designations.. They just roll off the tongue don't they. :)
Good video.
I found that this time the music was a little to loud and the narrator to quiet.
when I was in the army 85-86 we had that gun in service . remarkably accurate weapon
really?? you had a soviet gun that old??
@@JeanLucCaptain those days we had mobile coast artillery unit which had 130mm guns and 76mm guns and the idea was moving fast from one position to another with capability of shooting moving targets
Which army?
@@steffent.6477 finnish
4.5mm won’t stop a rifle round but the intended purpose was to stop enemy armor at long range. 4.5mm will provide some protection from an artillery shell near miss, especially if the vehicle is dug into a fighting position.
The US used half-track TDs in North Africa as well, equipped with what were essentially updated French 75mm guns. They performed well at killing the enemy if not always at keeping their crews alive.
All in all I think the armor is there mostly for moral effect of the crew. A little armor might steel the nerves to hang in for another shot after a close miss.
They probably would stop rifle rounds at longer ranges. If you've got a BAR and see a clear shot to light up an SPG from 500m away, would you take it? I would.
I'd imagine that's the kind of case where it'd come in handy, as infantry certainly isn't supposed to get much closer than that in the first place.
Krupp reworked the breach on the captured Russian guns to accept Krupp cartridges while using captured projectiles. The result was a gun more powerful than the Russian 76. The same weapon was used on a run of Marder 2s.
It also fired standard German 75mm. PzGr.39 APCBC-HE (shot with grenade tail) & PzGr.40 APCR (tungsten cored solid shot) that had 76.2mm. modified drive bands installed. This considerably increased the performance when compared to the original Soviet BR-350 APHE (hard nosed HE shell with base fuse) ammunition.
@@CZ350tunerwarthunder thinks the Soviet one hits harder
If it wasn't for the very distracting music this video would be good.
Great work, as usual, a concise yet exceptionally detailed history of a relatively obscure German military vehicle. Bravo!
The audio was well balanced for my car stereo system. Unfortunately, on my phones to the speakers, it was more difficult to make out the words over the Synthwave music. Overall though good editing, and nice work.
Fascinating video on an interesting and unique vehicle!
I would like to say that I had to turn my computer's volume all the way up to 100 in order to even barely hear the narrator, so that might be something to look into in the future.
That's my dad in that last photo of one of the half tracks. I remember seeing other photos of his guys stood around it.
Oh wow quite incredible!
Not bad but very quiet until the last few seconds of music. Turn the volume up please!
The first six arrived in North Africa on my birthday, January 12, 1942. God, I'm getting old.
Great video, pitty about the background music
1:04 My gosh, the catchiest name ever!
Rolls off the tongue like coarse sandpaper.
@@Linerax xD
I wonder why the wheels were left on. Was it to help mounting and dismounting the gun in case of use as a stand alone piece or was it a case of, it would have taken too long to design a mount that didn't use wheels?
Nice 80's style synth btw.
Most likely. I can see that if at some point this gun wasn't available any more then the Germans could swap in another towed AT gun with minimal fuss.
Yes I actually read about it in that capacity, it also was so that if the vehicle was damaged, broke down, or ran out of fuel the gun could be salvaged at least.
It also was a very cheap thing to make in a hurry. It costs a lot more resources to remove wheels and improvise a new mounting for bolting an existing gun directly on a vehicle hull. This way, all they had to do was remove the seats from the basic vehicle and they had a mobile AT gun.
The gun couldn't be used on its own because the trails of the carriage were shortened to fit in. Well, I assume you could dismount it and get ONE shot off ...
15cm sIG 33 on Pz I was removeable and still fully functional.
The wheels give it the elevation to fire over the front cab without having to make a new mounting. Quick & cheap solution.
The opening synth got me pumped and ready for some dry and detailed obscure military history!
The video is good but the background music is annoying and totally unnecessary.
The music is kind of overpowering at times, not only distracting but also drowns out the voiceover
Sounds more like the soundtrack to an early 90's workplace training VHS
I enjoyed your video but I found the music quite distracting 👍
I suspect production ceased on this vehicle as the Marder II came along, being a more effective vehicle.
ya this is clearly a invention of desperation. they put the only good AT gun they had available in numbers on a chassis that could take the weight, performed minimal modifications and of it went.
You bastards. Because of you, somewhere there's an aerobics class being held in silence.
Best takedown for our audio thus far
This might in fact be the rare case of German engineering done as cheap (?) and quickly as possible, indicated by totally useless "armor". Considering these haltracks were a) pretty expensive and b) in critical demand everywhere, "cheap" is not really the case.
Which leads me to the question: WHY ?
well the British had the 25 pdr porte gun-trucks and the Bishop SPG (also with 25 pdr gun) converted from a Valentine Hull. these conversions seem to be ever present in armoured warfare especially armoured desert warfare.
because they needed a mobile plattform, fast, and this, despite the heavy cargo haulers being important n scarce, was the most expedient, and most viable short term option
@@MERLK2 True, true ... And 9 vehicles don't change anything either side. I was more concerned about the absence of crew protection and the addition of a few tons of useless (?) "soft steel" instead while on the other hand you use an expensive chassis.
It seems a very rushed job, which is not typical that early in the war.
Also at the same time they were already working on more serious SPGs, what would eventually become the Marder familiy.
@@ottovonbismarck2443 oh absolute, those things are not really armored (like all Pak-Wagen/Porte AT Truck solutions ... or HOT-Humvees/Recoiless Rifle Jeeps much later.
But the thing is - at the time they needed those means to defeat tanks yesterday. The orders to develop something, that ultimativly became Marder II was given in Dezember 41 afaik, Marder I from Sonderkommando Becker came too late too. I think some IIIs landed in Afrika but not sure.
Also you overlook one possible small bonus of that solution too, the Sdkf 6 was in use afaik by the DAF already ... so that makes spare parts supply potentially maybe a little bit less stressfull.
All in all i agree with you, that this solution leaves much to be desired. like all AT trucks. But then again, it worked and therefore was better then nothing at all
Great presentation, thanks!
Can you make a video about the Sd.Kfz.251 mit 7,5 cm KwK42 L/70?
Nice Video. This vehicle remindes me of the MT-LB-12 combination of the MT-LB and the MT-12 Rapira AT gun.
Who else is watching in 2023, learning about WW2, yet also having flashbacks to time spent in a shopping mall in the 1980s due to the soundtrack?
Sound editing is bad. The narration is very low and the music is too high.
Great stuff! Wonderful detail.
good God, the music is dreadful! what on earth were you guys thinking?
Amazingly done. But Oof, the techno music is a bit too loud and is distracting . 😅
The 7.62mm Gepanzerte is basically a technical is the most technical term.
Also the voice volume is low.
The video is well done except audio is so low as to make it difficult to hear.
Excellent video
Funny thing, I heard that song awhile back and all I could think about was makeshift Nazi half-tracks cruising around the desert to it......
I feel like a lot of tankers regretted the fact that tooling and design drawings of original F-22 fell into german hands. Without that gun, germans would have had NO high velocity 75/76 gun until Pak 40 would be ready and would have to resort to using their dual purpose 8,8cm AA and 10,5cm field guns, which were heavy and hard to move and nigh impossible to hide, even more, leading to more losses.
P.S.: 1)no, it doesn't use Pak40 shells as it predates it and had slightly higher caliber. "Hotdog in a hallway". Nobody was manufacturing brand new barrels just for this gun; 2)no, it doesn't use Pak 40 case either. Once again, it predates Pak 40. Moreover the breech was designed only for soviet 76mm AAA gun of 1931/38. It had shorter case of 558mm instead of Pak 40's 714mm(germans had very big cases since they've used slower burning, lower temperature mixtures to lower barrel wear). So it was save to drill the breech only to original case dimensions, Pak 40 case would just rip the gun to pieces; 3)no, neither USV, nor ZiS-3 can be modified this was as they were intended for smaller 385mm case from the beginning. Otherwise there would have been FAR more Pak36(r)'s around, not to mention that tens of thousands M1897 guns would also be modified into anything else other then HEAT lobber germans turned her in if it were so easy.
Tl:dr only F-22 can be restored to this capacity to become Pak36(r) and it wasn't a german design, but surely germans were grateful for finding such a present waiting for them.
dude that song at the end had me grovin
The real question is why isn’t it in War Thunder yet as a premium
Very informative and well made video would standalone without the music 👍
They only made 9? Weird that there is a video about it, interesting though! The Italians had an anti tank gun like this but a heavier gun.
AA not anti tank, the Italians did not have 90mm anti amour ammo
Ignore the negatrons Whining about the music there’s nothing wrong with it or distracting .
Hello video editor here, glad you found it fine on your end. I hope it did not impact your experience!
Is the musical intro with the various shots of Italian troops and vehicles from a longer source? I really love the tempo of the clips being matched with the BPM of the music. I've found myself replaying the intro a fair few times even though its only about 10 seconds long.
Here is the full video, great scenes and fantastic colorization! ua-cam.com/video/djTc9rmlyWI/v-deo.htmlsi=4Cs0VqZc09Gan3-R
(Ps: it was a coincidence that those clips matched with the intro, it was just too good to pass on)
2:08 Holy crap, that Mathilda with a Z on it was pretty jarring to see under current circumstances :/
The british must have used that lidentification in their vehicles in North Africa to avoid friendly fire.
I will say, the latter half of the video, the music may be too loud to properly listen to the commentary
i love these insanely long and complex designations the Germans love to give to these improvised self-propelled guns. ya i think whoever the crew on these extremely vulnerable vehicles must have been would not have enjoyed it very much as even a near miss by an HE or artillrey would be liable to fill the crew compartment with shrapnel. Also i love they left the wheels on, its an arrangement i see on a lot of armoured trains especially the improvised ones, where a light gun would literally be rolled into it's car on a turntable and bolted to the floor on a turntable to create a makeshift turret.
The British 6lber art also kept its wheels so it could be deployed not on the vehicle. And the Germans later had vehicles where they could deploy the turret. I think those were prototypes. Its easier to keep the carriage then design another new mount for gun. Imho.
To say this weapon and it's influence where minimal is a understatement..
12:23 - Notice that all the so called "armor" had been removed from that vehicle.
VERY GOOD
Just subscribed. I'm a tad hard of hearing and in my car it seems like the music is louder than your voice. 10/10 otherwise
1940s Style Prototactical
It looks like it could've been the world's first IFV.. Like the granddaddy of all IFVs. Also, the name of it killed me🤣🤣
Again , well done .
This would make for an interesting addition to War Thunder.
No idea why you show the Maus monster tank when talking about 1941??
1:03 bro XD
Brilliant but would prefer without music
I need the title to the synthwave track, it goes stupid hard
ua-cam.com/video/x8gBfEDoEbY/v-deo.htmlsi=R8Eydyo_CEv4ULQw Glad you liked it, we’ve also used this track on the S3 Viking and SH-2F Seasprite videos on our Plane Encyclopedia channel :)
Why not a Pak-40, how they get enough ammo, baffling?
The Germans didn't have enough manufacturing capacity to meet military demand for any category of weapons and vehicles. This led to the Wehrmacht reusing captured enemy gear on a vast scale to fill logistical gaps. In this case, they captured vast quantities of Russian 76.2 mm field guns and their ammo from both defeated enemy troops and captured supply depots. They reused this gun in various other mountings, including the Marder tank destroyer.
Captured thousands and plenty of ammo. At that time, only 5cm was available. So the 7.62cm was very handy
Music is very distracting and annoying
indeed
Before the 1948 war the jewish soldiers drove to a place in Libya where the remains of ex german self propelled anti-tank guns stood and they took them back to use them in their fight for a jewish in dependant state
Sorry but not many know that!! and you didn't mention it!!! The British troops the Africa Korps pushed back. Where not the same British troops that kicked the Italians back.
Churchill had ordered the best of those units from North Africa to Greece. So only the weak units where left to defend North Africa.
The music is so fly 📟📠📺📼💾
Wonder if will have it's crew reduced if added to Warthunder? Like many of German vehicles... sigh
Not till 1941, but Barbarossa was already in progress ? Think you mean 1942
Is this in War Thunder yet?
The voice is too low
Most ork vehicle ever
Gaijin When
😂 we all hate the Background Music, is this a Music channel?
truck model at 0:57?
Austin 10HP Light Utility Truck.
@@TanksEncyclopediaYT thank you, but are you shure? there seems to be too much distance from the door to the rear wheel when i compare to pictures from the Austin tilly....maybe it's a Hillman or a Standard tilly?
It does really reassemble a Standard Tilly quite better you might be correct. Wider windshield and hood.
@@TanksEncyclopediaYT i think it's a Hillman
@@TanksEncyclopediaYT tillies have the doorhandle to the front and the doorhinges to the back of the vehicle...the vehicle in the video does not....maybe this is a different vehicle altogether...
New war thunder low br vehicle maybe?
@war thunder when ?
Jesus Christ the logistics.
Ahhh yes, the 7.62 cm F.K. 36(r) auf gepanzerte Selbstfahrlafette Sd.Kfz.6/3....... it just rolls off the tongue ^_^
That is official. Troops use very simple terms. In paperwork, it's all shorten
@@jantschierschky3461
The joke...
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2:10 russian invasion of ukraine predicted?
no, it is recent image, ruzzians just needs to put in service (again) last remaining Matildas from Lend-Lease program ;)
@@kbilskyand they still have many comrade…
Hard to concentrate with an 80 s spizz energy gay disco ,resplendent with eight bit midi samples.
Inappropriate comment…
@@aldo5428 soz wrong post ....whaz meant for Kathryn Tickell O U.T..
2:11 nah hell man not the Matilda wearing a 'Z' war paint
Good pronounced,good content, horrible music.
Survive the eighties, boy.
Sorry. But this video gets a thumbs down from me. Because of the music.
It does not fit in this type of videos. But if you absolutely have to have music in your videos.
At least lower the volume of the music so we can clearly hear what the narrator says.
Terrible background music
It’s annoying
yyyh, electropop music suck in ww2 videos.
Why on earth do you think these stupid weird noises adds anything but irritation to your video? I usualy like the vids, but the noinse puts me of a lot!!
Will from Bucher Law. I will never use your bogus BS
These are earmarked for the next aid package to Ukraine.
Awesome into music
I loved the music 🤙
I'm loving this music.