MPs vote in favour of toughest smoking laws in world
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- MPs have just finished debating and voted in favour of a plan to stop young people born after 2009 ever buying a packet of cigarettes. Rishi Sunak's anti-smoking bill will make this country the toughest in the world on lighting up.
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It has been welcomed by medical professionals but a number of Conservatives including the Business Secretary Kemi Badenoch
say they oppose it.
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Dealers will be selling weed with a 20 pack of cigs as a package 🤣🤣
Ye force it in to Criminals Hands / Morons.
Yeah all it's gonna do is drive up the amount of cigs being brought on European holidays and brought back to the UK to be sold on it's already a massive practice because of how heavily taxed they are here. Banning something doesn't stop people doing it all it does just forces them to get it elsewhere.
But it will make it harder, which means teens will be less likely to start.
As an example, they won’t start smoking when out in the night club, pub and bar gardens.
@@eccentricity9697Theyre all smoking ecig instead which in adamant are worse for you than the odd joint
@@Batcat2022on nights out, people are smoking cigarettes, roll ups and yes vapes.
This is wild, imagine asking your 72 year old friend to buy you a pack of cigarettes when you're only 71.
Imagine a shopkeeper being procescuted for not being able to tell if someone looked 30 when there actually 29.
It won't be enforced who's gonna ask a 71 looking year old if he's actually old enough 😂
I think the whole point is that the 71 year old wouldn’t be a smoker, so wouldn’t need to ask. But hey, we’ll find out in 2077.
If the problem is young impressionable people starting to smoke, raise the limit to 25 or 30 when their brain is fully developed. Let them make an educated decision, and get after the tobacco companies to remove all the toxic poisons and super addicting ingredients from the tobacco products
Maybe native Americans grew their own organic tobacco and didn't get addicted. I don't know.
That will be in so many years that hopefully every one will have stopped smoking.
Infrastructure falling to pieces, broken NHS, poor education, inflation and cost of living crisis but yeah this is the big thing our MPs are set on, it's honestly no wonder why this country is on it's knees with these absolute clowns running the show.
the two things are related. with a ban on smoking, theres a logical justification to lower spending on NHS (when you ignore the fact its currently massively underfunded)
Don't be blinded. Smoking costs the NHS and our society billions. If Labour had proposed this you would be in support.
@@bogglesbiggins1101Rubbish.
Clowns...yes.
Running the show... Not yet... But soon.
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Notice how this policy is being rejected by most Tories...
But supported overwhelmingly by LABOUR.
i agree with everything you’re saying about the country falling apart. 100% think it’s a shambles BUT banning smoking is a very positive mood in general. probably the only thing i’ve agreed with about this government in years if ever.
Reminds me of that classic scene from "Yes, Prime Minister":
- Hacker: "It says here: 'smoking-related disease cost the NHS 165 million pounds a year!"
- Humphrey: "yes, but we've been into that... It has been shown that if those extra 100,000 people had lived to a ripe old age they would have cost us even more in pensions and Social Security than they did in medical treatment. So, financially-speaking, it's unquestionably better that they continue to die at about the present rate"
- Hacker: "when cholera killed 30,000 people in 1833 we got the Public Health Act. When smog killed 2.5 thousand people in 1952 we got the Clean Air Act. A commercial drug kills half a dozen people and we get it withdrawn from the sale. Cigarettes kill a hundred thousand people a year! And what do we get?"
- Humphrey: "4 billion pounds a year!"
First thing I thought about 😂
@@mertonsardeen2242 Nowhere near as much as they get for tobacco taxes.
@@mertonsardeen2242 The government earns some 10bn from tobacco duty per year, smoking related health problems cost the nhs 2.6bbn a year. Meaning smokers are paying 5x more in tax on the tobacco they purchase than the health consequences of tobacco.
@@laurajibson8945 same here
@@mertonsardeen2242 The point is that those who smoke are happy to pay for the costs of the health consequences 5 fold.
Also if people spend the money they save on other things, it raises less tax revenue because most things are not taxed anywhere nearly as highly as tobacco, where some 80% of the cost of tax.
I would appreciate if they vote a very strict mesure against knife crimes, fly tipping, drugs dealers,... You know, useful things.
This IS important. You’re just too ignorant to understand.
I would appreciate it if we had a vote on anything tbh 😂 nobody even voted rishi sunak in the first place 🤡
They have done this
Useful isn't a word associated with the government
@@aidan-mx2fyare you having a laugh? The countries fallen apart lol
Under no circumstances would it be legal nor democratic to have, one day, a 30-years-old British citizen or a UK resident able to buy a product and at the very same time a 29-years-old citizen unable legally to buy tobacco. It's an absolute madness!
And they wanted out of Europe because they didn't want their rules imposed on them. This is fkin ridiculous.
Europe just bans conferences for people they don’t agree with 😂 read your news today?
well, we don't have a shortage of morons in the UK.
Europe is smoke friendly - I often buy a packet for 4 - 5 pounds in Europe rather than 16 pounds here
Eh? They wanted to leave the EU to repatriate sovereign lawmaking powers and they are now exercising those repatriated sovereign lawmaking powers to introduce this Bill...
You have it backwards, this is us making our own rules, you got what you wished for.
They didn't stop any boats, they won't stop a billion dollar tobaco industry.
They are simply incompetent
But we for sure can waste more police time money and resources 😂👍🏻
These clowns can't stop the boats never mind smoking
Hahaha that's so funny it gets better and better in this country the great and the good not a brain cell amongst them 😅😅😅😅😅
They created the boats situation.
Jeez have they never heard of supply and demand
Perhaps if we start with smoking and then progressively ban everything else that is currently individual choice, they won't want to come anymore 🤣
@@barnigranero5882this is what people don’t understand, they tore our immigration office down and made it un functional
This is just another sunak gimmick to take you away from the real problem with his lies the echr that he said he was going to take us out of
That's never been said....
This is Sunak wanting a legacy. In the future people will support this policy, and they'll have to admit it was introduced by Sunak. Liz Truss's legacy will still be losing to a lettuce.
Alcohol is far more damaging to society and the Health Service. Will they ban that next?
Hopefully
The difference is alcohol in moderation causes no harm, and can even be beneficial to health, whereas each and every cigarette is harmful to health.
Their are making lots of money.
@@perolagrande I’ve seen the effects of alcohol more times than I care to remember, it’s way more problematic than the small percentage of people who smoke cigarettes these days (and pay a massive tax for the privilege. I don’t do alcohol or cigarettes but I don’t believe it’s the job of government to be banning them.
Alcohol does not cause passive alcohol damage to the people in public near them, compared to smoking causing passive smoking damage to peoples lungs.
How is Liz Truss still in parliament?
she should be in a padded cell.
Because there hasn't been a General Election since her tenure as Prime Minister through which to vote her out of her job as MP.
@@elgee6202 yes of course, you are totally right, it just feels so long ago, and last GE was Boris time, seems like ages. Wonder what the next election will be like….
@@ds8457 A Tory bloodbath unlike anything we have seen in modern times.
@ds8457 Truss actually has a massive majority in her true blue constituency so I think it's safe to say she'll keep hold of her seat, even though I can't imagine what ordinary person would want to admit to voting for her after her disastrous period as PM.
So...
When people turn 18 or 21 or 25...
They just STOP liking the flavours and smells from childhood?
When you are 17 you like sweet blueberry... When you are 18 you prefer the taste of tobacco?
Away and shite.
I bet the black market can't believe its future luck.
I would've thought the same some years ago but only 13% of the British public smokes. Anti-smoking measures have been introduced piecemeal over the last 20 years or so, leading to both a reduction in smoking _and_ most importantly a change in attitudes towards the habit.
You never see teenagers smoking; if they do anything they shouldn't it's vaping. The coolness and edginess of smoking doesn't exist for them. And it's people younger than them who will never legally be able to buy cigarettes. All the Bill is doing is killing off an already dying activity.
There won't be a market for young smokers for the black market to exploit because these youths won't have started smoking in the first place. It's a clever (and daring) piece of legislation that could never have worked without the other anti-smoking measures that have been brought in gradually, starting with the ban on smoking in indoor venues.
@@elgee6202There will probably be a black market for vaping.
@galvinstanley3235 , possibly if it becomes expensive but there's still a chance to nip vaping in the bud as an activity before it ever gets as widespread as smoking did in its heyday. Only 13% of the population smoke (and I believe that figure includes vaping).
@@elgee6202 Where are you getting that number from?
They are planning their routes already
It's prohibition people over 16 should have personal choice , next alcohol , our rites have being eroded , I'm sick of the Tories , I'm for revolution .
me too
Not sure if smoking is a "rite"...
Should wearing a seatbelt also be a choice? Should we abolish the Food Standards Agency on the grounds that people should have a choice to eat shite food prepared in unhygienic settings?
The bill doesn't prevent current smokers from being able to buy them. It just increases the age at which one can start smoking. It essentially bans people born after 2009 from being able to purchase cigarettes. Also, the current legal age at which cigarettes can be purchased is 18.
@@MrSmith_ Current 16 year olds have a new money making opportunity here, by selling tobacco to those a year younger than themselves
This will mean plenty of money for smugglers in the future.
They're overworked already, lol...
of course they will get it by hook or by crook. our parliment is a JOKE
It's pure foolishness, all my life canibus has been illegal yet i can get it without issue
She doesn’t remember the lab rat picking sugar over cocaine? But sugar isn’t as addictive??😳
How can you be addicted to something you've never tried? The lab rat would've been attracted to sugar for reasons other than addiction.
@@elgee6202 Theres also the vile taste of cocaine compared to the nice taste of sugar to factor in, you only like coke becuase of its effects, not its taste.
I just like the smell@@temparalflux914
I don't like running out of either!
@temparalflux914 , on the handful of occasions I tried cocaine in my youth I can't say I was too impressed by the effects either!
Anyone still think this is a democracy if they have no say on their rights or choices on decisions on how they live their life?
Dictator rishi out
Prohibition rarely works
Politicians banning substances should be seen as a deliberately creating a black market and contributing to the police state. It would be politically untenable if not for the fact that we're already brainwashed into submitting to authority.
It does when that prohibition has already been preceded by almost 20 years of gradual measures that have reduced the incidence of smoking. In the 1970s almost half the adult population smoked; now it's only 13%. And nowadays hardly any teenagers smoke; they vape instead. That might carry its own set of problems but we do know that vaping is much preferable. Smoking is no longer the "cool" or "rebellious" thing for youths to do, and this legislation is just the icing on the cake. You never hear of people going over to France on "booze cruises" and coming back stocked up to the nines on cheap fags and alcohol.
I used to be very skeptical that prohibitive anti-smoking measures would work but I now disagree. I say this as someone who was a smoker until five weeks ago.
Most prohibition isn't phased in.
@@elgee6202 You've obviously never heard of Belgium.
Clamping down on guns has proven to work rather well.
"70% of the public support this bill" wtf i wasnt asked, how they work that one out
for obvious reasons they can't ask the entire country, they take a sample of people and scale it up. Have you honestly never heard of a poll?
They take a poll of civil servants (government workers) and scale it up for the nation
Same here I would have been against it
they take a poll from freshly arrived Boat people .. . they make our Laws now .
Stupid law no freedom maybe they need to lower the food prices tax prices and act all this smoking rubbish for a vote talk about abuse of power in this country
This will affect everyone in the pocket in taxes! they make Billions on tax from Tobacco, do you really think they will just write that off!
They'll tax meat next.
Freedom under the conservatives 🤣🤣🤣🤣 this is hilarious
Yet fully backed by Labour too ? 😂 guess you missed that part you absolute clown
Absolutely disgusting to ban smoking. Im an ex smoker but would never support any sort of ban.
They tried this in New Zealand it didn't work.
@@lonalxaia, didn't work? It didn't even come into force, lol! The Bill was passed in December 2022 and the ban was scheduled to take effect in July 2024; the law was repealed in January 2024.
I dont smoke and really dislike smell of cigarettes but I dont understand how in a liberal democracy, state can dictate a behaviour that doesn’t harm other members of the public.
Second hand smoke does harm other people. And the unborn
A smoker causes air pollution around themselves.
But to raise the minimum age of smoking by one year every year? That means some people would never be legally allowed to smoke
That's wrong.
It does bro my RE teacher have a good example saying her dad smoked 20 cigarettes a day, and because she lived with him and breathed them in, it was the equivalent to her smoking 17 cigarettes a day
People can get massively harmed by other people's actions especially if they live with them
@@recoveringsoul755 You can limit that and there are already many restrictions in place in the UK. How on earth we can ban people smoking in environments that doesn’t harm anyone.
INDOCTRINATION & Propaganda etc are a Real Problem in Relation to Influencing young minds , GAMBLING ADVERTISING should also be BANNED !
What about the huge sums of money lost in taxation when the ban kicks in? It’s millions per year
There must be a replacement revenue in the pipeline. I do not believe it is for health.
@@buffabee7130 what could replace it taxation wise? There’s few if any more loyal taxpayers than a smoker surely?
Alcohol. Then you'll see people kick up a fuss.
@@Tamarlane389 Exactly. Based on the price of a pack of 20 in 1980, they should be around £4.50 today. But they're £15. Which means that anyone on 20 a day is paying at least £10 in duty on each pack. That's £3650 a year, £73000 over 20 years. Anyone supporting this ban hasn't worked out that they will end up paying for the shortfall on duty.
So with all the problems of the cost of living going on, The Commons is spending time and effort on a smoking ban. What world do these donuts live in.
Because this is not a parliament driven bill. It’s WEF that all leaders have been giving their marching orders
They live in England, unfortunately it is the rest of the UK that has to suffer for the clowns the English voted into power
This was not much time and will save millions of lives. Are you saying we should just shoot thousands of citizens and cripple thousands every year because that is what smoking does
Don’t worry we will spend millions trying to stop it, waste police time trying to stop it, just for drug dealers to profit even more 😂
🤡🌍
Wait that's rich coming from the 2 two older ladies with cigarettes in their hands. Imagine the cigarette ban affected their age group I doubt they'll be in support of this. I'm up for increasing the age limit but an outright ban after a specific year is way too much policing.
As a smoker myself I understand where they’re coming from. If I could go back to the first day I smoked I would throw the cigarette away. It’s even more scary now with vapes, it’s creating a generation of nicotine addicts.
I know it seems hypocritical but you'll struggle to find any smoker that doesn't agree with this legislation. Smokers understand that starting smoking is simply not worth it and for a lot of people quitting is next to impossible. In reality this is a nothing policy the vast majority of teenagers don't smoke and don't have any intention to start smoking, they think it's disgusting and understand the dangers a lot better than previous generations did.
@@GodzillaM693liar ,vapes a far healthier than cigerettes
@@dominiclane8538vapes aren’t healthier than smoking, bullshit. They’re too new for us to know the proper effects. And even if they are like you say, they wouldn’t be healthier, just not as dangerous.
@@joshuawynne329 they are far healthier than smoking ,it's a fact ... don't come with your absolute informed BS .. 6000 chemicals in cigeretes 2000 apparently in vapes . You don't see people dieing of cancer from vaping do you ? So please go take your brain for a wobble
There's more important things going on in the world right now than this!!! 🙄
didnt they try this in NZ and it didnt work?
Yes. And yes.
Yes, and no, its an ongoing thing you won't know if it 'worked' unless people are still smoking in 50 years.
@@rerooarNo actually NZ appealed a year later.
@@TheMemeLord-zw4lu Well that's terrible, its obviously something that needs decades to show results, what a shame.
I was a smoker. I wish I was never able to buy cigarettes. All they do is make you smell, and keep you poor.
Thats before you take all the associated health problems into consideraton.
I quit smoking on the spur of the moment five weeks ago during an unexpected hospital stay (nothing to do with smoking, I might add). The most noticeable benefit of it is financial. My fags were over £15 per packet so I'm saving roughly £465 per month. If I lived abroad were fags were cheap I probably wouldn't have bothered quitting.
what about alcohol?
You're one of these people who gave up smoking and now thinks your holier than thou. Can't stand you lot. You where nicer and less full of shite when you did smoke
Where did you buy them?
I was a smoker too.
I don't smoke or vape, but I wouldn't try and tell somebody else how to live their lives, because it's none of my fcuking business.
I thought age discrimination was illegal ?
You're right, why do we discriminate by not letting 10 year olds drive? How come we can't give cigarettes to babies currently? Clearly all these laws are ageist!
Yeah, but under 21s still aren't entitled to the national minimum wage.
it is 😊
But this is primary legislation, which is unaffected by the Equality Act.
If sugar's not as addictive as nicotine then how did I just quit smoking one day 10yrs ago and have never wanted to smoke again, and yet I've just stocked up on a load of Cadbury's Creme Eggs cause I won't get any more til next Easter? 😂
Amen. Let's see Rishi try answer this one in the house of commons.
Because you wanted to quit smoking but don't want to quit sugar. I gave up smoking cold turkey five weeks ago on the spur of the moment but still eat a lot of chocolate because I have a sweet tooth and love it.
You can’t smoke in the Uk but you can illegally sneak into their country and claim welfare, wow😮
No, you can't. If you come here illegally you can not claim welfare or you will get deported.
You can’t though can you
No, you can't. If you are caught having arrived illegally you are deported.
The government is giving illegal migrants loads of money on living costs, hotels, They spending money on cigs from the shop at just under £20 a pack and take aways. We are just a charity to the world.
you didn't pay any attention to what this law is did you
He can distract us with this sideshow but can't (or won't, more like) take hold of immigration
Immigration isn't a problem.
Send people who smoke to Rwanda 😃😃😃
I would vote for that
Cannabis is for the most part illegal in this country...but cannabis use is at an all time high....
Done all that voting while high on coke and avoiding tax
Grow your own
Against the law of course
@@aishalotter9995 No it's not. Unless you sell it. It's really easy to grow too!
No it will not work. No doubt another test from the WEF to test compliance. I have never smoked in my life but I would start smoking just to sicken them. British PM clearly directed by his leader Klaus Schwab to try it out. If people want to smoke that is up to them. It is called freedom. They have been smoking forever.
lol, you wont know if it will work or not until its been 50 years. cigs are awful and should be banned nonetheless, the general public cant seemed to be arsed to find healthier coping mechanisms than cigs
If any of the people who voted for it are smokers, then shame on them. Either ban tobacco or not.
what can you expect of hypocrites? some of the biggest low lives out there.
it isn't individual choice alone when your smoking impacts the rest of the country in increased taxes to pay for care for smokers.
Why are we singling out tobacco and not alcohol, the most harmful legalised substance on the planet?
Because Rishi Sunaks wife drinks
That will be next. It's more about bringing in Digital ID.
Look up passive smoking & then look up the effects of passive smoking.
Look up more B.S !. . From birth
i know hundreds of babies that grew up at home, in 24. hr clouds of thick vile poisoning cigarette smoke until their adulthood. They suffered horrible deaths, from DIABETES ! . But no one bats an eye while you munch on some hobnobs.
@@verandisoldusty6834I live alone and smoke alone 😔
If for some people there was still a case for voting Tory, this puts it to rest. If they’re not for individual liberty and against government intrusion… what exactly are they for?
It's 2044
A 35 year old tries to buy 4 packs of cigarettes
She is with 3 34 year olds
The shop-worker serving her has to age-check all 4 and decide whether to make the sale
This shop-worker is on minimum wage and could be sacked and/or prosecuted if they get this wrong just once.
This is incompetent law-making.
by 2044 it will be a muslim state ..they know what they are doing ................
How many of these MPs will be caught smoking in their gardens…
The next ban will be on alcohol in keeping with the islamic views
Not a nanny state?
Tobacco is sold from shops where children can enter, so how do we have the toughest smoking laws in the world? Selling Tobacco from sweet shops just doesn't add up to me??
I would love a smoking ban. Fed up of walking through peoples smoke in streets or it drifting into shops from people smoking in doorways.
How people smoke ie shocking especially with the cost of living
what people don't realise that everyone will have to be ID not just the age range,fast forward 5 to 10 years will it be a offence to be carrying cigarettes on a stop and search
The proposal is to continually raise the age limit for buying and selling tobacco, but no offence of possessing tobacco is being proposed. At this time anyway.
So where are they going to get the tax they lose from. I bet breathing normal air will cost .
"We are not in the habit of banning things." Erm......2016 Psychoactive Substances Act.
What about being with our family during the lockdowns!
"But we're warming up to it"
Xl bullies
Alot of people would quit smoking in the morning if marijuana was legal, as people could afford to eat, and not smoke it 😁👍
I've never seen the point in smoking, yet here we go again losing another 1 of our personal freedoms.
I thought the UK is a liberal country. Do you Brits really let politicians and bureaucrats tell you whether you can smoke tobacco or not?
THE 3RD REICH IS BACK
Our 'Liberal' party backed this circus too
All for it, smoke free Britain will save millions each year on care
I dont suppose growing your own will be illegal
You have been thinking wrong ha ha fallen for appearance
People will buy tobacco from criminals instead of corner shops, that's all.
Which health wise could be worse as it would be poorer products
@@samuelstevens248how can you get much worse than tobacco? Already got traces of rat poison in it.
And we were all hoping Cannabis Legalization was just around the corner!!!!!
They must make more money dining people for it!!!!
Regardless of the negative effects of smoking, the government should not be the ones making the decision to ban it. People who are of legal adult age should be able to make this decision by themselves, this is destined to fail.
"We need to raise warriors"... Ahh, it all becomes clear- they dont want us to smoke so we are ready for impending global warfare 😅🤦🏼♂️
they want us to be slaves to the elites. thus they are stripping the common man of his rights.
But alcohol and sugar are okay? Morbid obesity is okay? Good (not) luck with this, they can't even stop people smoking weed.
Heroin and cocaine have been illegal for decades how’s that working out for the government?
they legalised medical weed but then tried to make it more severe to have weed not purchased thru their vendors. bunch of crooks.
Because someone drinking or eating doesn't impact someone else. Second hand smoke does.
@@barnigranero5882yeah drunk people have never hurt or killed anyone? 😂😂
@@barnigranero5882 So, drunk drivers never killed anyone?
We have gone from "have you got a licence for that knife? " to "have you got I. D. for that cigarette?"
I fucking hate this country. 🤦♂️
Before the total ban on smoking comes to pass,those in the government and
others who have shares will have made enough dosh not to worry their shares
are worthless.
1984
prohibition always works 🙄
HOW ARE THEY GOING TO ENFORCE IT?
You have to be 21 or over to buy smokes right.
So if you give your age card, you can buy it, but if the retailer says sorry, you where born after 2009, you can't buy it...........theres a big law suit in the works there right, as the person purchasing the smokes is 21+ years of age, by law.
I was born in 1976 so I don't really care about this new law, but just asking anyone who knows the law, how this will take place.
Politicians have better things to do than removing rights. How about fixing the mess they have made this country.
Furthermore, I will no longer pay attention to no smoking signs whilst in public. I’m gonna smoke my black market cigarettes anywhere that I like.
RIP George Harrison 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
Let's do a one-in-one-out. Get rid of tobacco and legalise weed.
You can choose what ever gender you want to be.. But a full grown adult is told they are not allowed smoke.. Plus They Rip Us Off All The Time and its in The Name Of The Taxes.. Police state.
Using smoking for smoke screen for more important legislations push _class XD
!!! HAVEN'T THEY GOT SOMETHING BETTER TO DO !!!
The Economy In A MESS!!!
AND!!!
The Country In DEEP RECESSION!!!
And Have TIME FOR THIS!!!!!!!!!!?????
Sugar is more addictive and kills more too.
Crazy should we do the same with alcohol ? Nanny state , dictatorship 😂😂😂
We should be allowed to own guns as well, like in the US. This dictatorship has taken that right away a long time ago. Next we will be forced to vote I’m sure like in Australia, that nanny state.
@@ds8457here here
First they come for your Johnny Silverhand Smokes, then they will try to ban your other vices.
Porn is next!
They never learn. Ban one thing, start a new substitute you never thought of. Message to MPs - butt out of people's lives.
People of this day and age don’t respond to being ordered around, it’s not going to work for this reason.
Now criminals will exploite this ' 🤑
Yep, true. The politicians will be on it straight away. They only bring in laws when it benefits them.
I want to know where they plan on getting all the tax money that cigarettes provide.
And I'm 62 now try stopping me from having a gig.....I dare you !
I'm all for older people attending gigs. Go for it!
erm, did you read the news article, no one is going to try to stop you .. or are you just bored?
When is your next gig?
Prohibition does not work
I think in this case it might. Young people are far less likely to smoke than previous generations anyway. It's just not seen as cool anymore thankfully. The more it's seen as an older person's habit, the less likely the appeal will be.
Hopefully it'll die out as a habit completely soon. It's so rank.
But if it's illegal and dangerous it will become cool. How many kids do you see vaping?@@peacehope7365
They haven't realised that todays generation of smokers are not the same pack a day chain smokers who are in their 50s now. Most young people just want to have a couple of ciggies on a night out and that's it. If they just sold single cigarettes then most young people wouldn't even smoke so casually.
You don't seem to realise that the pack a day smokers in their 50's were also casual smokers in their teens and twenties. It starts with a cig on and occasional night out, then it's a cig on every night out, then it's just the odd one during a lunch break at work and before you know it your in your 50's smoking 20 a day. That's how addiction works.
If this impacted older / existing smokers i could understand the anger, but are we really that keen to see the next generation taking on an expensive and destructive habit? Aren't we want to create better for each generation that comes after us?
The main problem with a law like this is that prohibition rarely works. You’d think the party of Liberal Economics would understand this. It’s estimated that 40-45% of tobacco sales in this country are illicit already. This is due to high taxes. If someone can get cigarettes for £5 from some Romanian, or £15 duty paid, obviously they’re going to select the former. This isn’t going to work and will just exacerbate the black market for tobacco. I’m not sure why they’re pursuing this so vehemently other than I suppose, they are looking for issues to distract from their failure to govern.
Fully in support of banning smoking, why are people fighting so hard to ensure their kids have the option to get addicted to an expensive and horrifically dangerous habit?? I wish I’d never smoked and I’d have been none the wiser…
You don't have to smoke. You don't have to do anything. It is a choice.
hypocrite. you guys are fkn pathetic.
Why is Labour going along with this. Do they want to throw away their huge lead
Why is this even considered a pressing issue 🤦♀️
All technicalities aside - which easily amended after passing the law - It boggles the mind that a bill CLEARY benefitting the HEALTH OF PEOPLE gets bogged down so much with minute issues. Those politicians shows their true colors, and who their sigar daddies are.
What about alcohol 🤔
While I'm not against making it harder for people to kill themselves by smoking tobacco ... this is some proper space cadet stuff... for an idiot who's landed a job he's not up to.
This is literally smoke and mirrors!! now can we sort out the real problems like immigration, cost of living, inefficient NHS etc etc.....
I despise the Tories and sunak but I actually support any measures against smoking and vaping so credit where it's due they actually did something right for once
so tell me how they will police this 😅😅😅😅😅
VOTE FOR REFORM UK 🇬🇧 STOP THIS INVASION MAKE OUR STREETS SAFE AGAIN 🇬🇧
Reformed gammon
Considering the VAST amount of money the economy gains from smokers from tax alone - That is going to leave a pretty big hole in the pocket down the line.
Apparently, the average cigarette contains over 2000 different chemicals. If that’s not value for money, then I don’t know what is.
Rishi is a corrupt mp
Aren't they all?
It's NOT a smoking ban. Why can't anyone report it correctly? It's a ban on selling tobacco to a certain age group and that's an entirely different thing. It is NOT a ban on the use of tobacco so if someone who is not allowed to buy it can obtain it by whatever other means, they will not face prosecution for using it.
But it will lead to an eventual ban, if you're 18 at the time it passes you nor anyone born before you will be able to buy cigs leading to an eventual ban
@@samobrien4046 It will lead to an eventual ban but you've got your figures the wrong way around. People born before you are older than you and aren't subject to the rule. When everyone older than you dies out then It will be a total ban as there won't be those older people who could still have bought them for younger people.
it's the damn same for people born after that year. don't get it twisted.
Wft is next banning from takeway on a Wednesday for ppl overwight 😅😅