I'm not sure if the wall to which is refers is the Servian Wall or the Pomerium. The Servian wall was half-ruined by this time, and far too small, while the pomerium was an ex-wall that still existed as a legal boundry.
Actually I belive Remus was more concerned with Romes ability to trade, and according to myth was killed by Romulus and his followers for crossing a ditch which would later become the Pomerian, the origanal wall of Rome.
In the Elysian Fields: Remus: Say it. Romulus: Fuck you! Remus: After you say it. Romulus: You’re really going to force me on this? Remus: I NEED to hear this! Romulus: FINE! YOU WERE RIGHT! Remus: *creepy and satisfied giggling* Romulus: Jump up your own ass and die!
@@stevencooper4422 Nah,.....she was plenty effective until battling the romans and actually ran a nation. Butica just revolted and had her ass handed to her.
Quest initiated: Defend the Empire [+] Defend against the barbarians [+] Defend against the Goths [+] Defeat Zenobia and Palmyra [+] Defeat the Tetricus and the Gallic Empire Quest complete! Rewards: Title - Restitutor Orbis
Character trait: *RESTITUTOR ORBIS* _See that man clad in fine robes and golden wreath?_ _Do not be deceived by the stretch of his arms; they are large enough to embrace our world and hold it all together before the worse storms the gods may throw at us._ *Effects:* +8 bonus Public Order in all provinces (faction wide) -20% enemy Agent action success chances when targeting Cities (faction wide) +15% Loyalty per Citizen with the Games and Bread Edict +30% melee defense for all Military units when fighting Barbarians and Secessionist armies.
Aurelian sounds like he was playing Rome Total War on damn easy mode, taking on everybody with great tactics, or the enemy AI needed to be patched to make it tougher. Cavalry still op in every game.
@@BlueflameKing1 its ridiculous, while in rtw a heavy cavalry charge would route nearly any unite, in m2tw a fucking unite of town militia won't so much as flinch if charged at
@@bob-lk5et I don't know the mechanics, but I think they hd to be nerfed since and castle can just churn our Mailed knights from day 1. Though Jinetes are OP. There's a reason they're seen as general-killers
@@Cancoillotteman i am trying to remember a single successful roman campaign against persia. And my memory fails me. I wanna say Caracala was kinda successful, but not sure. Trajan probably counts as well.
u got any articles to read on this topic? Odaenatus and Belisarius hardly count as Romans. And Im not sure any of Caracala's conquests lasted through the end of the severids. The list of spectacular failures against the persians is probably longer: Crassus, Valerian, Juilan and Jovian, constant rumble in Armenia (Valens being the last one to explot it to go ro war with the persians). There should be more.
The problem is that allot of leaders get called "the great,, even tho it may mean something different in their original language A good example is Steven the Great In Romanian he's known as Ștefan cel Mare witch is more refers to the greatest and strongest or most superior
What's even cooler, when Aurelian died his wife became Emperor. She was the 1st Empress of Rome and ruled for a year to keep stability while the senate looked for a capable replacement for Aurelian. When they did' she voluntarily abdicated power. Did I also mention the pair had a little augusta too' cause they did. The coolest and best family in Roman History went away too soon.
His wife wasn't the de jure empress, though. The senate and the army were so shell shocked by his death that all politics had entered a state of lull. The soldiers didn't want to elect an emperor out of shame so they let the regent carry on. Wives of dead emperors acting as regents wasn't very new. There were commonly called the "mother of the soldiers"
Rex Galilae absolutely, I feel like people try and over exaggerate him like he was a great emperor for the short time but then again he didn't reign long and much better Emperors accomplished more before and after him.
@@contoon1563 They didn't accomplish what he did in 5 years though. I wouldn't compare between other great emperors, they were great in their own right but what he did wasn't short of extraordinary either. If anything, I've noticed some pro-Christians to be slightly biased against him due to his persecution against Christians
Rex Galilae I agree he is one of my favorites, I just think that the victory over Palmyra and the Rebels weren't that impressive but his victories over the Barbarians and his individual battles stand out, and other policies he added were good, but people forget there was other good Emperors during the 3rd century which were just as good if not better. But I think he is amazing just over spoken for, if he lived longer possibly but that goes for a lot of emperors, such as Titus, Claudius Gothicus, even Germanicus could have made a great emperor if he survived ( I know he never was emperor ) but yeah I agree, sorry for long reply
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@@Blazo_Djurovic Well Aurelian had Zenobia publicly executed after his triumph where he paraded her around as a war trophy, whereas according to Tacitus (but not Cassius Dio), Boudicca was allowed to kill herself in comparative peace after her entire army got BTFO'd. So I in that regard you could say it was a more hardcore "no girls allowed" notice.
@pokezee king-wolf If Boudicca wasn't a woman, she wouldn't have been remembered today. In the grand scheme of things, she was a pretty mediocre rebel. Her only schtick was that she was a woman lol
@@RexGalilae Finally someone else who understands. Boudicca was a rebel who burned down 2 empty cities and then got wrecked attacking a Roman army which wasn't even a quarter of her army's size. Never understood why she's so famous, she did basically nothing aside from losing in an embarassing way
And here comes one of the best Roman Emperors ever, on of the Greatest...whose true Greatness, sadly, is overshadowed by his Successors Diocletian and Constantine due to his short Reign. But without his Work, those two would've never amounted to anything.
@@TomSeliman99 More like the "role" of the player is overratted itself... nobody could actually do something to prevent the crisis... that dosent make Trajan less capable...
Oh wait, it seems he was (maybe) born in the region of Syrmia, which geographically isn't a part of the Balkans (but mostly is in Serbia).... still should've just said Bulgaria
Jeyoung Ryou he was referencing Dovahhatty when he talked about Aurelian reuniting the empire and he was planning on banning all the pagan gods and make Sol Invictus the only god of the Roman Empire
@@unclesam5230 So kind of like how Akhenaten tried for Aten in Egypt? That's an interesting suggestion, although I find it doubtful. Seeing how Aurelian had himself referred to as 'deus' in some coinage, I doubt he was trying to institute monotheism, although I do agree he promoted Sol Invictus at the cost of other gods/religions.
This video gives Zenobia far more credit than she deserves. She was ambitious despite being utterly incompetent and was a coward who left her son in a besieged city while she selfishly attempted to flee to the Sassanid Empire.
I respectfully disagree. In what way was she incompetent? Even the (scant) Roman sources who would have every reason to hate and undermine her stated that she ruled as well as any emperor. "...for in the weakened state of the commonwealth things came to such a pass that, while Gallienus conducted himself in the most evil fashion, even women ruled most excellently," so the Historia Augusta says. While the Historia Augusta is of dubious reliability at best, the author would have had no reason to make up good things about a woman, much less a woman who dared to go up against Rome. As for "leaving her son in a besieged city," I haven't read anything that confirms that, but I'd like to see your sources. Who's to say that she didn't take her son with her, or that a coup within the city was threatening her life and that of her son, leaving her no choice but to flee. And you say she was ambitious? Of course she was! So were all the fifty million upstarts cropping up around the empire during the entire crisis. I don't think ambition in itself is bad. (I know how nasty UA-cam debates can get so please don't think I'm being nasty, just respectfully disagreeing here."
@@Isaiah.2003 Vaballathus may have been a puppet Emperor but he was still an Emperor. If he had been captured while trying to escape to the Sassanid Empire with Zenobia, it would have been mentioned. The Romans would have been more than glad to call the rebel monarch a coward. But instead it only states that Zenobia was caught in her attempted cowardly escape. Anyone with an ounce of logic can realize that she attempted to selfishly escape by herself, without her son. As for her incompetence, it is pretty obvious. Odenathus took Palmyra from a weak little kingdom to a regional superpower. He was able to do that because he was competent enough to understand the powers of his neighbors and he knew which side to choose. Rome may have been fragmented, with its politics and economy in a completely mess. But the Roman military power was not damaged much. The legions of Rome were still standing strong. Odenathus knew that fighting Rome, even in its weakened state would be a disaster. So instead he decided to help Rome. He protected Rome's eastern borders from the Sassanids and was rewarded generously for that. This is where Zenobia's stupidity and incompetence comes in. You say that there were fifty million ambitious upstarts cropping up all over the place? That is exactly my point. Zenobia was just another incompetent upstart. Had she been competent, she would not have foolishly antagonized Rome by cutting off its grain supply. By doing that, the only thing she achieved was helping Aurelian decide on his first target of annexation. Had she been smart, she would have pledged allegiance to Rome and helped Rome in its time of need like Odenathus did. That way Palmyra would have obtained a valuable ally. By the time Aurelian destroyed the barbarians threatening Rome, the change in the direction of the wind was already obvious. Until then, Rome lacked a competent Emperor. But with Aurelian taking the throne, it did not. Yet she was too stupid and ambitious to realize the situation she was in. She wanted to defeat Rome without even realizing the difference in power. That is her incompetence and that is what sets her apart from competent people like Odenathus and Aurelian.
I mean if I was a Roman and basically the only Queens at the time literally tried to starve our city I too would be incredibly distrusting of Queens, after all they did try to kill me. Twice.
You know Aurelian is good when Dovahhaty makes him a giga chad without any irony or bias Conversely you know how bad C*mmodus is when he portrays Caligula and Elagabalus as Chad's but he's a corrupt virgin
i heard a story from kings and generals youtube channel about aurelian. Aurelian in a siege army said to the army " not even the dogs will be alive" . aurelian calm down after the city surrender and did not allow the plunder. The army reminded him of his quote. Aurelian than replied with an order:" kill all the dogs" would zoey be happy with that order?
Bet, Zenobia was a goddamn menace. There’s a ton of great ancient female rulers out there but she is not one. She was just a power hungry and manipulative person, nothing admirable about that. Aurelian wasn’t being a misogynist when he was taking her out, he was being a hero of Rome, and an avenger of Odenathus.
>invades Egypt >cuts off grain shortages to rome to starve the capital >declares herself openly as empress >Revolts against Rome Yeah Rome is quite mysogynistic don't you think?
imagine being an Italian dictator and feeling entitled to annex countries on three continents, and acting like that all way until USA puts you back into your place and Duce hanged upside down. Took 1500 years but was worth the biggest imperialists getting curb stomped and "Roman empire" basically reduced to a single backyard called Vatican.
@@Dogpilot_NordKS That is what generally happened at the end of a Roman Triumph-the prisoners in the triumph were ceremonially strangled in front of the Temple of Jupiter Optimus Maximus. Sometimes this did not occur, as in Julius Caesar's triumph when Arsinoe was spared by the demand of the crowds, but it was standard procedure.
@@Dogpilot_NordKS Which bit? That she was executed, or that he took her alive so she could be executed? Since I honestly don't know her fate. What I do know is that best/perfect Roman triumph includes parading the defeated barbarian ruler who is then strangled by a priest right in front of the statue of Jupiter... Which is TOOOOTALY not human sacrifice, or so Romans claim.
Of the surviving histories about her life, one claims that she died on the way to Rome from an illness and most of the others that she was spared and lived in Italy afterward. Only John Malalas, writing centuries later, states that she was beheaded at the conclusion of the triumph. So while her fate is uncertain, most sources agree that she was spared from execution.
Yeah, Zenobia pushing independence after her husband, Rex Regnum was mysteriously assassinated definitely wasn’t an additional motivator for Aurelian...
It was literally the 2nd point, "partially because Aurelian wanted to keep his empire whole". It was the most important of the 3 mentioned factors though.
The roman cavalry and high military officers had masks/helmets which looked like the faces of a god or Alexander or Hercules, as did the seleucids before them
Aurelian didn’t slaughter that army 7:55. It was way unlike him to waste soldiers. He had been dealing with manpower issues for his whole reign and he was uncommonly kind to those he defeated. It makes no sense that he’d spare barbarians but not other romans
He did slaughter that army genius. He didn’t want another rebellious army to deal with, I would recommend researching a bit before making asinine claims like that
@@bingingbinging8597most likely he killed all officers who did not beg his forgiveness. We get all the elements of the “battle” in the historical record from this. The mass killing, the defection of tetracus and the implementation of Gaullic empire officials.
@@polkka7797 no dude he destroyed the army because THEY WEE THE ONES THAT CHOSE THE OFFICERS OR OTHER EMPERORS! They would acclaim someone as emperor and by not destroying the army it would be obvious they would soon declare another emperor. They even fought on after their “emperor” defected meaning they were going to choose another emperor. This was what was happening to them in the 3rd century. Please don’t make definitive statements when you are dead wrong
Would someone care to point out a prosperous preindustrial agricultural society that WASN'T latently "misogynisitic"? (I say latently, because there will always be an instance of a charismatic woman leading for a generation ... e.g. Elizabeth of England)
My favorite story is Aurelian angry upon finding the gates of Tyana barred to him shouting "in this city, I will leave not even a dog alive"(his policy in Asia minor had been resist and be destroyed, let us pass and you will be left completely unmolested) according to the story he had a dream the night before breaching the walls where a philosopher he respected from Tyana told him to be merciful in victory and it would make him more successful( paraphrasing). When they breached the walls and he ordered the city spared, his soldiers upset about losing the rights to plundered and profit reminded him of his words. In what I believe may be the best comeback ever he said "well, then, kill all the dogs" and amazingly rather than killing him or the dogs his soldiers laughed and left the city in peace. That is an amazing charismatic leader, because you do not dangle booty in front of a legion and pull it away if you value breathing.
Ben Ogurok while Trojans conquest lead to the greatest height of the Empires power over the World, it did cause major problems for the future of the Empire as they were too far stretched. Still a Chad though
Oh, this is like 140 years before the time of Alaric, the goth who sacked Rome. Many centuries later Italian renaissance writers would sneer at Northern European art of the Low Middle Ages and called it "gothic" meaning "barbarian". A few centuries later than that, critics called the sturm und drang literary movement and horror novels like Ann Radcliffe's "The Mysteries of Udolpho" or Horace Walpole's (*) "The Castle of Otranto" "gothic" because there were a lot of spooky medieval ruins and spooky medieval superstitions and spooky medieval ghosties in those books. A couple of centuries after that, British music critics called a particular mopey strain of post-punk "gothic" meaning "spooky" and here we are. Or, alternately, see all of this animated here: ua-cam.com/video/STOJftffOqs/v-deo.html (*) The son of Robert Walpole. That one.
6:27 That reminds me a lot of Yang Wen-li from Legend of the Galactic Heroes. A false break to reform his lines and charge into the enemy is a favored tactic of his and the first thing we see him do in battle in the series.
Throughout the last millennium,Rome endured many Dark Times. Each producing great men of their own... The fruits of their efforts were enjoyed by weak men,who's degeneracy brought back dark times... The Empire was now at the mercy of Evil and chaos,enemies within and abroad tearing it apart... And in these darkest of times...the greatest of all men arose to fulfill the legend of prophecy...
Rome! Hear me, for we are in crisis! To the west, imposters led by Tetricus, grow ever stronger. To the east, the usurper, Queen Zenobia marches her armies into our lands. Give us an emperor from humble beginnings. Give us an emperor who our armies will follow. Give us Emperor Aurelian!
@@KasumiRINA Honestly, thats one of the most toxic parts of the history community, refusal to admit to one of the great plagues of mankind even as a background note. Sexism and racism may not always be the current topic, but these people love to put on the "oh how I'd love to live in ancient Rome/Greece/ETC" act, conveniently ignoring how women were doomed by barbaric men back then.
zenobia: **secedes from the empire** **invades roman territory** **cuts off the grain supply to the capital** IMPERATOR CAESAR LUCIUS DOMITIUS AURELIANUS AUGUSTUS: **strikes back** extra credits: "how misogynistic of you!"
Any army in history: fakes a retreat The enemy: pursue them we have WON!! The army: comes back from a feigned retreat. The enemy: surprised pikachu face
that comment about mysogyny seemed a bit misplaced, EC. It wasn't about the fact that they were queens, it was about the fact that they could cut off Rome's food supply that garnered the dislike. Rome otherwise was famously contemptuous of foreign rulers, man or woman.
No there wasn’t a “gate for queens”. She was totally fine until she invaded Roman territory- and Aurelian spared her- giving her a villa in Italy to retire in
Imagine thinking any territory bigger than Vatican can be called "Roman" legitimately. They were wrecked right, everyone in history then curb stomped Italy just because they could.
@@finlip_ But misogyny was way less important than the factors like food security and territorial integrity. Aurelian would've done the same against a male ruler as well.
Aurelian: Spares Palmyra*
Palmyra: Rebels Again*
Aurelian: Ok then mister you’ve lost your existing privilege
Your profile pic actually fits into the meme
Should be missus.
@@lorenzooliveira1157 Mister, take that back if you want me to spare you.
“Rome didn’t even have a defensive wall”
Remus’ Ghost: . . . c a l l e d i t
Straight Facts
I'm not sure if the wall to which is refers is the Servian Wall or the Pomerium. The Servian wall was half-ruined by this time, and far too small, while the pomerium was an ex-wall that still existed as a legal boundry.
Actually I belive Remus was more concerned with Romes ability to trade, and according to myth was killed by Romulus and his followers for crossing a ditch which would later become the Pomerian, the origanal wall of Rome.
In the Elysian Fields:
Remus: Say it.
Romulus: Fuck you!
Remus: After you say it.
Romulus: You’re really going to force me on this?
Remus: I NEED to hear this!
Romulus: FINE! YOU WERE RIGHT!
Remus: *creepy and satisfied giggling*
Romulus: Jump up your own ass and die!
@@Torchstone1 *Pomerium mate, the original wall of Rome was not on the Baltic Coast. :P
Zenobia: I'm cutting your grain supplies
Aurelian: I'm about to end this woman's whole career
She seemed about as effective as Boudica at ruling a nation
@@stevencooper4422 you're right my friend you're absolutely right
From what I remember, the rest of the Palmyran ruins were then destroyed even more by ISIS a thousand or so years later
@@redornament3248 sadly yes
@@stevencooper4422 Nah,.....she was plenty effective until battling the romans and actually ran a nation. Butica just revolted and had her ass handed to her.
Aurilian: Guys! check this cool feigned retreat tactic out
Mongols: hmmmm, tell me more
Parthians: Are we a joke to you?
@@weldonwin Scythians: What are those brats doing over there?
weldonwin sassanid : we kick your @$$ and made a bigger empire and constantly beaten Rome and had bigger respect than you
Mongols: WRITE THAT DOWN!
@@shapurthegreat7542 is that why their empire died first?
Quest initiated: Defend the Empire
[+] Defend against the barbarians
[+] Defend against the Goths
[+] Defeat Zenobia and Palmyra
[+] Defeat the Tetricus and the Gallic Empire
Quest complete! Rewards: Title - Restitutor Orbis
Bonus "reward": corrupt praetorians doing corrupt praetorian things
@@lucasbeck1391 Nah fam, thats just the random RNG events fucking things up as usual...
@@toddharig8142 should have married his daughter off for a non aggression pact
Character trait: *RESTITUTOR ORBIS*
_See that man clad in fine robes and golden wreath?_ _Do not be deceived by the stretch of his arms; they are large enough to embrace our world and hold it all together before the worse storms the gods may throw at us._
*Effects:*
+8 bonus Public Order in all provinces (faction wide)
-20% enemy Agent action success chances when targeting Cities (faction wide)
+15% Loyalty per Citizen with the Games and Bread Edict
+30% melee defense for all Military units when fighting Barbarians and Secessionist armies.
@@guillermorobustelli2652 Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well
Remember when Belisarius had to defend the Aurelian wall? I remember
A badass defending a wall that was built by another badass
So does Pepperidge Farm.
Aurelian: make me proud
The wall served Rome for centuries
yep
Aurelian sounds like he was playing Rome Total War on damn easy mode, taking on everybody with great tactics, or the enemy AI needed to be patched to make it tougher. Cavalry still op in every game.
"Cavalry still op in every game" clearly you never played medieval 2 total war
@@bob-lk5et uh been a while, plus yeah mass heavy infantry is better in that game for the most part.
@@BlueflameKing1 its ridiculous, while in rtw a heavy cavalry charge would route nearly any unite, in m2tw a fucking unite of town militia won't so much as flinch if charged at
@@bob-lk5et I don't know the mechanics, but I think they hd to be nerfed since and castle can just churn our Mailed knights from day 1.
Though Jinetes are OP. There's a reason they're seen as general-killers
@@bob-lk5et Nor has he played Empire Total War cause canister is OP
Gives us an emperor of humble beginnings, Gives us emperor Aurelian!
"Give us a leader our Armies will follow!"
"...and within another year he would be dead"
And that concludes this episode of ironic deaths for famous leaders.
bro no please don't remind me bro i'm literally still shaking and crying
@@Cancoillotteman probably for the better. The success rate against Persia is extremely low for Rome
@@Cancoillotteman i am trying to remember a single successful roman campaign against persia. And my memory fails me. I wanna say Caracala was kinda successful, but not sure.
Trajan probably counts as well.
u got any articles to read on this topic?
Odaenatus and Belisarius hardly count as Romans.
And Im not sure any of Caracala's conquests lasted through the end of the severids.
The list of spectacular failures against the persians is probably longer: Crassus, Valerian, Juilan and Jovian, constant rumble in Armenia (Valens being the last one to explot it to go ro war with the persians). There should be more.
Cue Historia Civilis cliffhanger music (Hallon by Christian Bjoerklund)
Restorer of the world sounds alot cooler than "the Great"
Aurelian deserves both titles.
"the Great Restorer of the World"
@@nikolozgilles Now that is absolute fire
The problem is that allot of leaders get called "the great,, even tho it may mean something different in their original language
A good example is Steven the Great
In Romanian he's known as Ștefan cel Mare witch is more refers to the greatest and strongest or most superior
@@nikolozgilles Magna Restitutor Orbis?
What's even cooler, when Aurelian died his wife became Emperor. She was the 1st Empress of Rome and ruled for a year to keep stability while the senate looked for a capable replacement for Aurelian. When they did' she voluntarily abdicated power. Did I also mention the pair had a little augusta too' cause they did. The coolest and best family in Roman History went away too soon.
His wife wasn't the de jure empress, though. The senate and the army were so shell shocked by his death that all politics had entered a state of lull. The soldiers didn't want to elect an emperor out of shame so they let the regent carry on.
Wives of dead emperors acting as regents wasn't very new. There were commonly called the "mother of the soldiers"
Rex Galilae absolutely, I feel like people try and over exaggerate him like he was a great emperor for the short time but then again he didn't reign long and much better Emperors accomplished more before and after him.
@@contoon1563
They didn't accomplish what he did in 5 years though. I wouldn't compare between other great emperors, they were great in their own right but what he did wasn't short of extraordinary either.
If anything, I've noticed some pro-Christians to be slightly biased against him due to his persecution against Christians
Rex Galilae I agree he is one of my favorites, I just think that the victory over Palmyra and the Rebels weren't that impressive but his victories over the Barbarians and his individual battles stand out, and other policies he added were good, but people forget there was other good Emperors during the 3rd century which were just as good if not better. But I think he is amazing just over spoken for, if he lived longer possibly but that goes for a lot of emperors, such as Titus, Claudius Gothicus, even Germanicus could have made a great emperor if he survived ( I know he never was emperor ) but yeah I agree, sorry for long reply
Thanks DovahLarp
That golden chains on the former emperors is some top level bigus dickus energy
To those who dared wear laurels of gold let their chains be gold as well. Aurelian probably
Ah Zenobia, who could forget that spiteful incarnation of dido.
A man of culture and taste.
Based Dovahhatty enjoyer
Based
@@pendragonxt3674 shut
@@pendragonxt3674 shut up
1:56 "I miss sports"
For those of you watching this episode well past the year 2020, this episode debuted during the Covid-19 Pandemic. During this time, many sporting events were canceled or put on hold, and large stadium crowds were banned in order to keep the plague under control and prevent mass deaths. Just a little extra history in your Extra History.
I'm from 2022 it's still the same
@@theodosiusii408it's not considered a global emergency anymore!
@@abadminecraftplayerPEOPLE OF THE FUTURE, THINGS ARE GOING WELL NOW!!!!! Kinda… well not really..
I will never stop simping for Aurelian.
Killing Aurelian was a crime against humanity.
zach bear,it was because he did a lot of “bad” things like crushing corruption
@@andreaanaxandron9890 I remember another great roman killed by exact thee same reason... what was his name? oh yes GAIUS JULIUS CAESAR
Rome was a crime against humanity.
@@KelsaRavenlock wrong.
@@Mitaka.Kotsuka that's my boiiiii
Fun fact the city of Orleans is named after Aurelian
I never knew that!
Neato
And therefore new Orleans as well
Wow!
I thought of the Saints first.
0:51
Me: What? Rome had large walls surrounding it.
Also me: What were they called again? Ooh yeah. The Aurelian oh.
Lol
When Aurelian dies: “The world is doomed...”
The thread of prophecy is severed
Prophecies never lie they're just severed.
Ah a man of patrician taste I see
Ah a student of Dovahhatty
@@unclesam5230 *friends theme starts playing*
in this episode of ancient rome: Aurelian sends Zenobia perhaps the most hardcore "no girls allowed" notice in history
More hardcore than one given to Boudica?
@@Blazo_Djurovic Well Aurelian had Zenobia publicly executed after his triumph where he paraded her around as a war trophy, whereas according to Tacitus (but not Cassius Dio), Boudicca was allowed to kill herself in comparative peace after her entire army got BTFO'd. So I in that regard you could say it was a more hardcore "no girls allowed" notice.
@pokezee king-wolf
If Boudicca wasn't a woman, she wouldn't have been remembered today. In the grand scheme of things, she was a pretty mediocre rebel. Her only schtick was that she was a woman lol
@@RexGalilae Finally someone else who understands. Boudicca was a rebel who burned down 2 empty cities and then got wrecked attacking a Roman army which wasn't even a quarter of her army's size. Never understood why she's so famous, she did basically nothing aside from losing in an embarassing way
@@gauntlettcf5669 nah don't take credit away from her. She DID massacre many innocent Roman AND Briton civilians.
And here comes one of the best Roman Emperors ever, on of the Greatest...whose true Greatness, sadly, is overshadowed by his Successors Diocletian and Constantine due to his short Reign.
But without his Work, those two would've never amounted to anything.
True
Trajan was the best roman emperor actually... overshadowed by his Successors Hadrian and Aurelian
@@Mitaka.Kotsuka trajan was playing on easy mode. He's way overrated
@@TomSeliman99 More like the "role" of the player is overratted itself... nobody could actually do something to prevent the crisis... that dosent make Trajan less capable...
@@Mitaka.Kotsuka he conquered Dacia and made another province in Persia which quickly collapsed. He didn't deal with any real crisis
3:00 missed opportunity to draw legionaries in Lorica Segmentata as a nod to what people usually think of as "better times".
“Born in Serbia or possibly the Balkans...”
Uh
Either meant the Balkans as in the mountain between Serbia and Bulgaria.... or meant Bulgaria but wrote the Balkans
Oh wait, it seems he was (maybe) born in the region of Syrmia, which geographically isn't a part of the Balkans (but mostly is in Serbia).... still should've just said Bulgaria
@@void_wyrm do we know the correct/exact place of his birth?🤔
@Stock Name ok, so, its Serbia, Bulgary, or some between boarder territory.🤔
He should have just said Illyria, that was the name of the province he was born in
At 8:32 the look on zenobia's face is so perfect, she looks so done with life
In only five GLORIOUS years, Aurelian had made Rome one Empire, with one Emperor, under one God.
*IMPERII UNA VNVS IMPERATOR VNVS DEVS*
The only emperor to be luckier than Augustus and better than Trajan.
Not one God. Rome was still pagan back then, and worshipped many gods. Unless you mean Aurelian having himself deified as a god, in which case, sure.
Jeyoung Ryou he was referencing Dovahhatty when he talked about Aurelian reuniting the empire and he was planning on banning all the pagan gods and make Sol Invictus the only god of the Roman Empire
@@unclesam5230 So kind of like how Akhenaten tried for Aten in Egypt? That's an interesting suggestion, although I find it doubtful. Seeing how Aurelian had himself referred to as 'deus' in some coinage, I doubt he was trying to institute monotheism, although I do agree he promoted Sol Invictus at the cost of other gods/religions.
SOL INVICTUS!
This video gives Zenobia far more credit than she deserves. She was ambitious despite being utterly incompetent and was a coward who left her son in a besieged city while she selfishly attempted to flee to the Sassanid Empire.
Or so the Romans say
I respectfully disagree. In what way was she incompetent? Even the (scant) Roman sources who would have every reason to hate and undermine her stated that she ruled as well as any emperor. "...for in the weakened state of the commonwealth things came to such a pass that, while Gallienus conducted himself in the most evil fashion, even women ruled most excellently," so the Historia Augusta says. While the Historia Augusta is of dubious reliability at best, the author would have had no reason to make up good things about a woman, much less a woman who dared to go up against Rome. As for "leaving her son in a besieged city," I haven't read anything that confirms that, but I'd like to see your sources. Who's to say that she didn't take her son with her, or that a coup within the city was threatening her life and that of her son, leaving her no choice but to flee. And you say she was ambitious? Of course she was! So were all the fifty million upstarts cropping up around the empire during the entire crisis. I don't think ambition in itself is bad. (I know how nasty UA-cam debates can get so please don't think I'm being nasty, just respectfully disagreeing here."
How fitting that a recinaration of D*do immediately gets destroyed by a descendent of AENEAS
@@Isaiah.2003 Vaballathus may have been a puppet Emperor but he was still an Emperor. If he had been captured while trying to escape to the Sassanid Empire with Zenobia, it would have been mentioned. The Romans would have been more than glad to call the rebel monarch a coward. But instead it only states that Zenobia was caught in her attempted cowardly escape. Anyone with an ounce of logic can realize that she attempted to selfishly escape by herself, without her son. As for her incompetence, it is pretty obvious. Odenathus took Palmyra from a weak little kingdom to a regional superpower. He was able to do that because he was competent enough to understand the powers of his neighbors and he knew which side to choose. Rome may have been fragmented, with its politics and economy in a completely mess. But the Roman military power was not damaged much. The legions of Rome were still standing strong. Odenathus knew that fighting Rome, even in its weakened state would be a disaster. So instead he decided to help Rome. He protected Rome's eastern borders from the Sassanids and was rewarded generously for that. This is where Zenobia's stupidity and incompetence comes in. You say that there were fifty million ambitious upstarts cropping up all over the place? That is exactly my point. Zenobia was just another incompetent upstart. Had she been competent, she would not have foolishly antagonized Rome by cutting off its grain supply. By doing that, the only thing she achieved was helping Aurelian decide on his first target of annexation. Had she been smart, she would have pledged allegiance to Rome and helped Rome in its time of need like Odenathus did. That way Palmyra would have obtained a valuable ally. By the time Aurelian destroyed the barbarians threatening Rome, the change in the direction of the wind was already obvious. Until then, Rome lacked a competent Emperor. But with Aurelian taking the throne, it did not. Yet she was too stupid and ambitious to realize the situation she was in. She wanted to defeat Rome without even realizing the difference in power. That is her incompetence and that is what sets her apart from competent people like Odenathus and Aurelian.
@@briandinh9169, and that her death led to Dido's curse being lifted forever.
I mean if I was a Roman and basically the only Queens at the time literally tried to starve our city I too would be incredibly distrusting of Queens, after all they did try to kill me. Twice.
They didnt learn after all
the other reasons listed prior to them mentioning the queen part were the most important, if it was a man theyd have done the same to him
Yea, I don't know why Extra History try to frame that whole thing as Rome being misogynist. The writers put too much of their political agenda.
Fair point
@@ariavachier-lagravech.6910 their series on cleopatra was even worse.
Man I cant watch other roman history videos cause dovahhatty blew everyone out of the water with his series
Aurelian: destroying his enemies
The Area 51 Guard playing Total War, Rome:
Aurelian when he heard that Zenobia cut off grain: *You? What?!*
You know Aurelian is good when Dovahhaty makes him a giga chad without any irony or bias
Conversely you know how bad C*mmodus is when he portrays Caligula and Elagabalus as Chad's but he's a corrupt virgin
To be fair, Caligula was mentally ill when he became emperor and did do some good in his reign. Nero was extremely popular with the plebs
i heard a story from kings and generals youtube channel about aurelian.
Aurelian in a siege army said to the army " not even the dogs will be alive" .
aurelian calm down after the city surrender and did not allow the plunder. The army reminded him of his quote. Aurelian than replied with an order:" kill all the dogs"
would zoey be happy with that order?
numidians: hey we've got this great cavalry tactic......
rome: write that down! write that down!
Great artistes copy.
Roma just scrum the hell of their conquest.
Bet, Zenobia was a goddamn menace. There’s a ton of great ancient female rulers out there but she is not one. She was just a power hungry and manipulative person, nothing admirable about that. Aurelian wasn’t being a misogynist when he was taking her out, he was being a hero of Rome, and an avenger of Odenathus.
And not to forget that there were more important factors like food security and territorial integrity of Rome.
Aurelian sounds incredible, quite frankly.
Total Chad
When your historical title is “Unconquered restorer of the world” you know you did a pretty solid job.
Love that Odenathus (or his family) reappeared, I remember the story of Aurelian barely, such a fascinating emperor.
6:25
Aurelian: “I’m gonna do what’s called a pro gamer move”
4:47 We meet again, Odenathus...
Good to see the conqueror return
It would have been more epic if Dovahhaty would make a cameo in this episode. Narrating the whole Aurellian episode.
He was obviously too spicy for this very PC channel
The madlad actually tried to fix the debased money, Truly, Truly Based Aurelian.
Although EVEN he could restore the silver content to only 5%.
>invades Egypt
>cuts off grain shortages to rome to starve the capital
>declares herself openly as empress
>Revolts against Rome
Yeah Rome is quite mysogynistic don't you think?
imagine being an Italian dictator and feeling entitled to annex countries on three continents, and acting like that all way until USA puts you back into your place and Duce hanged upside down. Took 1500 years but was worth the biggest imperialists getting curb stomped and "Roman empire" basically reduced to a single backyard called Vatican.
Kasumi Rina sir this is a video literally about the Roman Empire. You know, the one that conquered all of Europe minus the shithole of Germania.
@@KasumiRINA and even to this day those dictators did more for the world than you ever will be capable off
5:39 I don't think it had anything to do with them being a misogynistic society as much as them securing their goddamn food supplies.
yeah that was a dumb mention
Gotta love when people bring gender politics into history.
I mean, I would be mad at anyone if they wanted to take away my food
That is just what twitter thinks
Of course he would place his misogynistic notions above the food security of his empire right? (Spoken with heaviest possible sarcasm).
Enemies of Rome during the 3rd century: Yeeees the end of rome draws near
Aurelian: *Jojo's theme*
Which one? Theres like 6
7:06 He just spared Zenobia so that he can later strangle her in his Triumph.
It's totally not human sacrifice guys! Nope!
Your right it’s called an execution
@@Dogpilot_NordKS That is what generally happened at the end of a Roman Triumph-the prisoners in the triumph were ceremonially strangled in front of the Temple of Jupiter Optimus Maximus. Sometimes this did not occur, as in Julius Caesar's triumph when Arsinoe was spared by the demand of the crowds, but it was standard procedure.
@@Dogpilot_NordKS Which bit? That she was executed, or that he took her alive so she could be executed? Since I honestly don't know her fate.
What I do know is that best/perfect Roman triumph includes parading the defeated barbarian ruler who is then strangled by a priest right in front of the statue of Jupiter... Which is TOOOOTALY not human sacrifice, or so Romans claim.
Of the surviving histories about her life, one claims that she died on the way to Rome from an illness and most of the others that she was spared and lived in Italy afterward. Only John Malalas, writing centuries later, states that she was beheaded at the conclusion of the triumph. So while her fate is uncertain, most sources agree that she was spared from execution.
Yeah, Zenobia pushing independence after her husband, Rex Regnum was mysteriously assassinated definitely wasn’t an additional motivator for Aurelian...
It was literally the 2nd point, "partially because Aurelian wanted to keep his empire whole". It was the most important of the 3 mentioned factors though.
no he did not wear a mask, but he was still the best.
Tfw: mask is still badass
"Nobody cared who i was until i put on the mask"
Emperor Aurelian, Restitutor Orbis
probably used it to flex on his enemies and the pathetic senate and praetorian guard who did more damage to rome than any breakaway state ever could.
The roman cavalry and high military officers had masks/helmets which looked like the faces of a god or Alexander or Hercules, as did the seleucids before them
“For God and Empire, he put on the mask...”
Aurelian didn’t slaughter that army 7:55. It was way unlike him to waste soldiers. He had been dealing with manpower issues for his whole reign and he was uncommonly kind to those he defeated. It makes no sense that he’d spare barbarians but not other romans
He did slaughter that army genius. He didn’t want another rebellious army to deal with, I would recommend researching a bit before making asinine claims like that
@@bingingbinging8597most likely he killed all officers who did not beg his forgiveness. We get all the elements of the “battle” in the historical record from this. The mass killing, the defection of tetracus and the implementation of Gaullic empire officials.
@@polkka7797 no dude he destroyed the army because THEY WEE THE ONES THAT CHOSE THE OFFICERS OR OTHER EMPERORS! They would acclaim someone as emperor and by not destroying the army it would be obvious they would soon declare another emperor. They even fought on after their “emperor” defected meaning they were going to choose another emperor. This was what was happening to them in the 3rd century. Please don’t make definitive statements when you are dead wrong
Its a small thing but I really appreciate the detail of how the loaf of bread is drawn.
i so love extra credits. every series is a little adventure of actual history. great work guys
Zoe: I miss Sports
Everyone: Me too kid......Me too.
Cricket and Football Fans are likely the happiest though.
cannot think of a worse insult to call someone than sports fan
@@klake5375 because sports fans are dumb
I feel like pointing out the fact Rome was misogynistic is beating a dead horse at this point.
Aside from that though, I loved the video
Would someone care to point out a prosperous preindustrial agricultural society that WASN'T latently "misogynisitic"? (I say latently, because there will always be an instance of a charismatic woman leading for a generation ... e.g. Elizabeth of England)
Well this is a very left leaning channel so I’m not surprised
Which developed society wasn't, at this time being? for fs sake
Anyways, f*ck zenobia
@@secularmonk5176
Ancient Egypt?
@@Itcouldbebunnies female pharaohs having to wear fake beards is enough to crush that idea.
My favorite story is Aurelian angry upon finding the gates of Tyana barred to him shouting "in this city, I will leave not even a dog alive"(his policy in Asia minor had been resist and be destroyed, let us pass and you will be left completely unmolested) according to the story he had a dream the night before breaching the walls where a philosopher he respected from Tyana told him to be merciful in victory and it would make him more successful( paraphrasing). When they breached the walls and he ordered the city spared, his soldiers upset about losing the rights to plundered and profit reminded him of his words. In what I believe may be the best comeback ever he said "well, then, kill all the dogs" and amazingly rather than killing him or the dogs his soldiers laughed and left the city in peace. That is an amazing charismatic leader, because you do not dangle booty in front of a legion and pull it away if you value breathing.
Very beautifully put!
"when the colosseum falls, rome falls, when rome falls, the world falls"
Aurelius tends to be one of my favorite roman emperors. Along with Agustus, Hadrian and Constantine.
What about Trayan?
Ben Ogurok while Trojans conquest lead to the greatest height of the Empires power over the World, it did cause major problems for the future of the Empire as they were too far stretched. Still a Chad though
My #1 will always be Domitian
@@benogurok5175 He conquered but didn't consider where to conquer. Dacia and Mesopotamia were infamously hard to govern
This video and Aurelian himself reminds me of the Justinian videos. Oh how I admire and miss those videos.
I wonder where did you get that Zenobia was hated because she was a woman...
Didn't realize goths had such a long history
Oh, this is like 140 years before the time of Alaric, the goth who sacked Rome. Many centuries later Italian renaissance writers would sneer at Northern European art of the Low Middle Ages and called it "gothic" meaning "barbarian". A few centuries later than that, critics called the sturm und drang literary movement and horror novels like Ann Radcliffe's "The Mysteries of Udolpho" or Horace Walpole's (*) "The Castle of Otranto" "gothic" because there were a lot of spooky medieval ruins and spooky medieval superstitions and spooky medieval ghosties in those books.
A couple of centuries after that, British music critics called a particular mopey strain of post-punk "gothic" meaning "spooky" and here we are. Or, alternately, see all of this animated here: ua-cam.com/video/STOJftffOqs/v-deo.html
(*) The son of Robert Walpole. That one.
Yeah I didn't even hear of goths that predated the Cure...
“First came the infantry push.”
*Shows cavalry skirmish
Barbarians: Nothing will stop us from getting to Rome.
Aurelian: Bet.
”in this grand parade, Aurelian’s soldiers and servants displayed exotic beasts from faraway lands.” 8:15 truly an exotic beast
man am I glad I did the homework and watch the old episode on Odenathes really gave this already great episode that much more context
6:27 That reminds me a lot of Yang Wen-li from Legend of the Galactic Heroes. A false break to reform his lines and charge into the enemy is a favored tactic of his and the first thing we see him do in battle in the series.
Praise the ultimate emperor, hail the *RESTITUTOR ORBIS*
Aurealian was one of the best roman emperors
This video made me remember that scenario in Age of Empires I expansion where I had to fight Zenobia.
I had to pause the video because I was laughing so hard at GOTHICUS MAXIMUS
Senate : How many titles do you want?
Aurelian: yes
The emperor has conquered the North Pole. We have named the Northern Lights in his honour. Ave Caesar!
It would have been awesome...
Give us an emperor from humble beginnings! Give us a leader our armies will follow! GIVE US EMPEROR AURELIAN!
Aurelian is the definition of
“You thought”
Throughout the last millennium,Rome endured many Dark Times. Each producing great men of their own...
The fruits of their efforts were enjoyed by weak men,who's degeneracy brought back dark times...
The Empire was now at the mercy of Evil and chaos,enemies within and abroad tearing it apart...
And in these darkest of times...the greatest of all men arose to fulfill the legend of prophecy...
"Go forth, and Restore our world"
R E S T I T V T O R O R B I S
"Restorer of the World"
If that's not a badass honorific I don't know what is
Rome! Hear me, for we are in crisis!
To the west, imposters led by Tetricus, grow ever stronger.
To the east, the usurper, Queen Zenobia marches her armies into our lands.
Give us an emperor from humble beginnings.
Give us an emperor who our armies will follow.
Give us Emperor Aurelian!
The God Emperor of Mankind, Aurelian.
]I[ The Emperor Protects ]I[
Kostas the shark you mean Tiber Septim?
Imagine saying Rome was misogynistic when Aurelian's wife ruled as sovereign Empress for a year after his death...
Literally only one year and forced to abdicate because she didn't have a penis.
TOTALLY NOT MISOGYNISTIC MALE ONLY SUCCESSION RULE AMIRITE.
@@KasumiRINA Honestly, thats one of the most toxic parts of the history community, refusal to admit to one of the great plagues of mankind even as a background note. Sexism and racism may not always be the current topic, but these people love to put on the "oh how I'd love to live in ancient Rome/Greece/ETC" act, conveniently ignoring how women were doomed by barbaric men back then.
@@KasumiRINA his successor was elected by vote but....
Me: What I see: (Gallic empire)
Me: What I read: Garlic Empire.
I’d honestly be down to live in the Garlic Empire if that existed
For this interested: 270-271 victory was again the Alammani, an off shoot of the Suabi.
270-271 victory agains Visigoths (Wester Goths).
zenobia:
**secedes from the empire**
**invades roman territory**
**cuts off the grain supply to the capital**
IMPERATOR CAESAR LUCIUS DOMITIUS AURELIANUS AUGUSTUS:
**strikes back**
extra credits:
"how misogynistic of you!"
How many nicknames?
Aurelian: *YES*
Goth Aurelian is now something I want to see more of.
yes
Aurelian was a total chad
Chadus maximus, Aurelian is proof that when we have nice things, we don't appreciate them 😅😅😅
I love the light comedy touch, and Nick´s art is great.
And just like that, map maker became the most lucrative profession in Rome.
Any army in history: fakes a retreat The enemy: pursue them we have WON!! The army: comes back from a feigned retreat. The enemy: surprised pikachu face
He’s made some good walls that man.
The Emperor Protects
that comment about mysogyny seemed a bit misplaced, EC. It wasn't about the fact that they were queens, it was about the fact that they could cut off Rome's food supply that garnered the dislike. Rome otherwise was famously contemptuous of foreign rulers, man or woman.
Food security and territorial integrity of Rome were definitely the most important factors.
No there wasn’t a “gate for queens”. She was totally fine until she invaded Roman territory- and Aurelian spared her- giving her a villa in Italy to retire in
Imagine thinking any territory bigger than Vatican can be called "Roman" legitimately. They were wrecked right, everyone in history then curb stomped Italy just because they could.
I love these short & to-the-point explanations of history!
Aurelian we love you!
Been waiting for part two for the entire week
"An invasion of Goths". I laughed!
"Gothicus Maximus" was even better!
We truly need an Extra History Album on Spotify
Aurelian looks strikingly like a a typical Dinaric man.
Strong cheekbones, long straight nose, high forehead.
Looks a lot like my dad actually.
You guys should make a series about Zenobia or Palmyra
**Aurelian jumpscare**
did extra history just blame aurelian's invasion of palmyra on misogyny
Yes, yes they did
not wanting to starve is misogynistic
They didn't blame it entirely on misogyny, it was a lot of different things.
@@finlip_ But misogyny was way less important than the factors like food security and territorial integrity. Aurelian would've done the same against a male ruler as well.
They literally explained in the video that misogyny was one of many factors
"Gives us an emperor from humble beginings..."