... but my interpretation wasn't. Why?

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  • @Roseanng57
    @Roseanng57 11 днів тому +6

    You are not alone. The tarot readers I follow ALL said Kamala won.

  • @olaf5958
    @olaf5958 12 днів тому +5

    I've started studying Tarot some years ago and the first thing my teacher told me was that Tarot cards are not to be used to make predictions because nobody, not even Tarot cards, can predict the future. The cards are to be used to provide clarification of a particular situation a client finds him/herself in and then use the cards for discovery what to do about the situation and what path to take forward. Making predictions for the future is a fool’s errand as many Tarot readers and Astrologers found out.

    • @WhitsundayOracle
      @WhitsundayOracle  7 днів тому

      I agree and wholeheartedly support tarot for empowerment and clarification/guidance and personal work/insight. However, oracular divination is part of every indigenous or traditional culture - from the I Ching in China to runes in Nordic cultures, or in my case, tarot.
      I think the latter can absolutely be (and has been) abused by ego driven individuals. Nonetheless, it is part of my practice and something I will continue to work on.

    • @mellie9633
      @mellie9633 4 дні тому +1

      Yep and they are putting their own bias into the reading. It corrupts the reading.

  • @TarotAndRoses
    @TarotAndRoses 16 днів тому +9

    I wanted so badly that you were right in that reading! One thing told me the real outcome - when you said " She is still in the battle " , then I felt the cards were saying that she didn't win and the battle is still going for Kamala. I imagine is so difficult to do this kind of readings because there's also so much emotion involved and of your course your hopes and the hopes of those who are on the same side as you! I truly appreciate you coming forward and looking at that reading with post-election eyes, and analysing what went wrong thank you. 🌸

    • @WhitsundayOracle
      @WhitsundayOracle  16 днів тому +2

      Thank you, yes she will really have to prove herself moving forward - a battle in itself. As with any work, I think it is important to put ego aside when one is wrong, and examine the reasons why. There is no growth otherwise, and certainly no learning that the 5 of Swords can indeed be a winning card! Thank you for watching 😊

    • @angellight9427
      @angellight9427 16 днів тому

      Hello: I am wondering if I can enlist your aid. I have been working spiritually by burning a white or blue candle to Angels/Spirit/God to bring out the truth if there was any theft in this election and if so, to reverse the theft and install the rightful winner. I will be burning the truth candles the whole month of November and December. As you know there is power in numbers. Thank you. Angellight

    • @TarotAndRoses
      @TarotAndRoses 15 днів тому +1

      @@WhitsundayOracle That 5 of Swords indeed gave a lesson about darkness in a way, where there's a defeated there's a winner too. Interesting I am only exploring a new tarot deck where the 5 of swords is called Arrogance and when you look at the cards looks as his mother...

  • @crossroadstoryteller
    @crossroadstoryteller 17 днів тому +4

    This is my first of your videos and I so appreciate you sharing your learning process with us, you helped destigmatize a lot through modeling, not just anyone has the skill and perspective to do that, thank you 🙏🏽

    • @WhitsundayOracle
      @WhitsundayOracle  16 днів тому +1

      Thank you for watching and such lovely feedback, I am glad it was of value 😊

  • @nancyb3315
    @nancyb3315 7 днів тому +1

    Hi Monica. You didn't fail.
    As you say, you are not the only reader who came to the same "outcomes" as you did. In fact, most readers saw victory for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz. I believe that one day, we will know just why all of you saw this.
    In addition, I believe that one day, we will know the truth about what happened.
    I'll leave it at that.
    I understand the "post mortem" that you're doing on the reading. The self-questioning, the wondering if you should have asked the question differently, and a desire to understand the jolt you experienced at the news of the outcome of the election. Millions of us felt, and still do feel, the same way.
    Please know that in my view, your intuition is spot-on. I love it when you post a new video, and I learn important things when you do. Yes, ok ... sometimes we get stuff wrong. However, when all the readers I watch and listen to got this one "wrong", for me it signaled that something else very odd is going on. You didn't all get it "wrong".
    Again, I'll leave it at that.
    Just a comment on the 5 of Swords. For me, it can mean "winning at any cost". In the context of where this card sat in your reading, it might well describe that the "victory" may have been ill-gotten. Not a "win", exactly. Just my 2 cents on that one.
    There is just something not right in the results of the U.S. election. We shall see. Latest counts reveal that the orange menace garnered 49% ... Kamala 48%. Election wasn't even close. And counting is still going on.
    Lastly, I just want to say: good for you for deciding to ignore the trolls. I love your straight talk to people who send you rubbish messages: "I'm just going to delete you, and I actually don't care". Good on ya, Monica!
    This is too long now. I just wanted to check in and tell you that you did NOT fail. Repeat. 😃
    Love from Nancy in New Zealand. 💗 I hope all feels right as rain there in the Whitsundays, and you feel like you're exactly where you want to be.

    • @WhitsundayOracle
      @WhitsundayOracle  7 днів тому

      Thank you Nancy for your comment, and I agree that the 5 of Swords does indeed mean winning at any cost. I think the election reading was a great learning experience for me, though I don't dispute his win (tarot aside, I did actually think he would win in the days before I did my reading, but did not mention it or even think of it as I did it).
      As for the trolls, they provide good humour, and it only takes a second to delete a comment 😁

    • @christiekaye5013
      @christiekaye5013 6 днів тому +1

      All these readers you say you watched got the answer they did because they all wanted her to win. Y, "something very odd" is going on & we will definitely be shown the truth of what has happened - with the election & many other topics. Truths which many will, in their astonishment, not enjoy hearing. Stay strong ✨💖✨

  • @paso193
    @paso193 12 днів тому +2

    First of all, my gut feeling on this is that you are truly an authentic soul who expressly desires to help people....honestly. I believe as you mature in your craft, learning (as you're bravely doing here) from your misinterpretations, mistakes, wrong impressions, etc., that you _will_ become a very fine, if not superior, Reader....from what I am picking up from your energy. Also, it was obvious that over 95%+ of Readers on Y.T., T.T., etc. were illiberal and allowed their partisanship & internal biases override the meanings of most cards. An important group learning curve for all. You have shown the way! Namaha, 🙏🕉

    • @WhitsundayOracle
      @WhitsundayOracle  7 днів тому +2

      Thank you, the funny thing about all of this is that in the days before my reading, I did think Trump was going to win from talking to other friends who have their finger on the pulse of American politics more than me. Regardless, I am happy to learn from the experience and even look forward to doing some more election readings in the future 😊

  • @lucasdrennen9361
    @lucasdrennen9361 15 днів тому +7

    Its because you werent wrong, let this play out all the way and it will match

    • @WhitsundayOracle
      @WhitsundayOracle  13 днів тому +2

      well, the reading was for a specific event, the outcome of the actual election day, not for 4 months down the track. I am happy with what I have learned through this reading and re-visiting my initial interpretation has given me great experience.

  • @angelasims2759
    @angelasims2759 15 днів тому +1

    appreciate your honesty tarot reading is an art of interpretation. not like reading facts from a book

  • @TarotwithMims
    @TarotwithMims 17 днів тому

    I appreciate you sharing this. You point out some really good reminders and lessons about tarot in general, no matter what kind of reading, and no matter the expertise or experience level. Thank you for the reminder about how we pose the question and then about drawing additional cards, particularly for a complex question. I also appreciate the reminder about keeping notes on a reading, because then you can go back and look at the cards, etc. I keep notes when I am reading for others and for my journaling, but sometimes when I am reading "for fun" I just throw cards down and don't always track the cards, the question, and the outcomes, so I am going to be more diligent about that. I have been a subscriber of yours for a few months, and I quite appreciate your videos, your thoughtfulness, and what you share. Thank you. (and I'm from the US and one of the sad ones in the 5 of swords card).

    • @WhitsundayOracle
      @WhitsundayOracle  16 днів тому +2

      Thank you, I do try any make videos that offer some practical insights to tarot practice. I'm also a big fan of Lao Tsu's saying, that the wise person walks the middle path - or something along those lines, basically avoiding extremes, and I try any apply that to my videos and tarot work too. Thank you for watching 😊

  • @sincerelyshannadee
    @sincerelyshannadee 16 днів тому +2

    I used Morgan Greer as well the night before and pulled the Queen of Wands, 5 of Wands, 4 of Cups & 8 of Swords. I was convinced the Queen of Wands showed KH's victory but moving into the 4 of Cups and the hidden figure holding the cup (as if in a cheer) up to the male figure had me worried. Then the 8 of Swords really sealed the deal EXCEPT I wanted so badly for her to win I kept trying to spin the card in a favorable way. As we know, thats not how tarot works 😅
    I love that you came on and are speaking about how we can misinterpret the cards sometimes! New subscriber here 🙋‍♀️

    • @angellight9427
      @angellight9427 16 днів тому

      Hello: I am wondering if I can enlist your aid. I have been working spiritually by burning a white or blue candle to Angels/Spirit/God to bring out the truth if there was any theft in this election and if so, to reverse the theft and install the rightful winner. I will be burning the truth candles the whole month of November and December. As you know there is power in numbers. Thank you. Angellight

    • @WhitsundayOracle
      @WhitsundayOracle  15 днів тому +1

      Yeah, tarot has been a fine teacher in the art of self-delusion 😅 and the pitfalls of seeing what you want the answer to be, rather than what it actually is (don't worry, people do this in their normal lives on a daily basis too - others lying to us is nowhere near as destructive as the lies we tell ourselves).

    • @mariarohmer2374
      @mariarohmer2374 10 днів тому +1

      Great example. I think every reader who got it wrong should take a break. Just release that energy. Some even said they would but then the next day they're back on again doing readings! If you got it wrong, clearly there are things to process about the experience. Otherwise you're just repeating the same loop.

  • @TrioofWitchesTarot
    @TrioofWitchesTarot 17 днів тому +4

    I read the 5 of swords as winning or being defeated by deception, stealing and subterfuge.

    • @WhitsundayOracle
      @WhitsundayOracle  16 днів тому +1

      Great point, and indeed a common attribute of this card. "Winning at any cost" is often associated with it. I of course can't say whether that was the case or not, but I think this card would be felt regardless which party won and shows the internal turmoil of the people in America.

  • @ninainanna
    @ninainanna 17 днів тому +1

    I loved this, Monica. I can learn as much from this as you can, so it's really appreciated. 💚
    💗Yeah, and please don't bother about those kinds of nasty comments - there's a special place in hell for people like that, you know. 😄

    • @WhitsundayOracle
      @WhitsundayOracle  16 днів тому

      Thank you for watching, I am happy to see you find it of value 💜

  • @neosan82
    @neosan82 14 днів тому +2

    Until Jan. 21, 2025 I am not going to consider your prediction wrong. We still do not know who will be inaugurated in January. I feel that Kamala Devi did win but as someone said "the math ain't mathing" ... so I am watching to see what will happen.

    • @WhitsundayOracle
      @WhitsundayOracle  13 днів тому +2

      Well, as I have commented before, my reading was specific to an actual event (outcome of the election day), not for months down the line. I think denial is one of the early stages of the grieving process, no? I certainly learned a lot from my reading, and it has not put me off more election readings in the future.

    • @neosan82
      @neosan82 13 днів тому

      @@WhitsundayOracle ... Yes, thank you! 👍

  • @tamipie
    @tamipie 17 днів тому +2

    I very much enjoy this conversation. I did read Camelia Elias Lenormand readings, pre and post election. I have predicted simple things like American football games, I am getting better, but at first, it was less than 40% - now it was all in fun, I am not trying to save democracy here, however, if I try a little harder, I get better results. It is impossible to get an accurate idea of how often we are correct in our predictions, because many of us read the cards and move on. A lot of tarot readings are more therapeutic in nature, rather than predictive, so our consolation is the product. We make people feel a little better, or give them an action idea to create positive change. If you tell a querant their romantic search can be aided by, 5/Pentacles, accepting invitations instead of sitting it out, Strength, attending the zoo, dog-show, local animal charity, or Hierophant, check out spiritual functions, 6/Wands, sporting events, how do we know, if that worked? Most readings don't have this automatic, wrong or right nature. I have gotten readings that were accurate, but it took some time to know that. The election question, was a really great question to test! 😅

    • @WhitsundayOracle
      @WhitsundayOracle  16 днів тому +1

      That is an excellent point, that tarot readings are therapeutic in nature - I have found this myself many times. However, I also think that divination is inherent in tarot, and so from time to time I do readings that are predictive. There is a video somewhere on my channel titled "is divination a dirty word?" - a subject I may revisit in the future. Thank you for watching 💜

    • @angellight9427
      @angellight9427 16 днів тому

      Hello: I am wondering if I can enlist your aid. I have been working spiritually by burning a white or blue candle to Angels/Spirit/God to bring out the truth if there was any theft in this election and if so, to reverse the theft and install the rightful winner. I will be burning the truth candles the whole month of November and December. As you know there is power in numbers. Thank you. Angellight

  • @Jo_-_-t.a
    @Jo_-_-t.a 16 днів тому +1

    Good for you regarding the aftermath of your reading. I recently made a wrong prediction, in hindsight I see I was also wrong but the cards were so right. Like you I took stock, went back and researched my shit.
    Will I continue to make predictions? Yes.
    As for the 5 of swords, the rws smith I get a win with a zero sum game, I think watch this space. It is gonna get very interesing.
    As for Harris? Hit with the heavy hand of traditional value systems, lets not get it twisted. The US has never had a woman as Potus in its history. In a country that appears going backwards in terms of social progression (far right politics is gaining traction across many 'Western' so called democracies), her biological makeup was up against a huge powerful value and faith based system. One that Trump didn't have to scale, even though a convicted felon. The Hierophant strikes again.
    Bring on future predictions and yes, lets not get complacent with our interpretations.
    🎉

    • @kristinelarab39
      @kristinelarab39 16 днів тому

      Far right as you call it was middle 5-10 years ago. She wasn’t voted because she’s too far left (not because she’s a woman). I voted for Hilary. But K would usher in communism and allow globalist elite WEF, and all the totalitarianism in to our country.

  • @plumesilver6369
    @plumesilver6369 15 днів тому

    Nice to hear your feeling about it , I am also shocked to see how many people got it wrong .
    I never do one card , it’s not enough when things are so complicated. I did a few grand tableau on my channel, my question was always what are the energy of the person I am reading for .what is going on .
    I got all the snake , mice and manipulation cards for Kamala.
    Also the grand tableau on many occasions had some clear indication that she had the key above the Coffin which is a bad position when you get the inheritance of being the candidate of a party that is failing and lying to the public.
    The key will stay with the coffin which means its negative for the person that take the key. Also she had the Lillies under her on one of her grand tableau again a fake deceptive personality , not wise .
    Definitely not a winner.
    I did not see a winner. But I saw a big looser . Only a battle and a demoncrat loosing their mind . I guess I was right on that one 😂
    Personally I prefer Trump even with all his flaws but I could not see him be the winner only that he had no negative cards around him .
    I play it safe because the energy look like a war .
    I still believe it is a war , the left will not be happy and will demand to have things look deeper.
    Just like you , I found it hard to stay unbiased and also I do it for the passion of reading cards .
    Thanks for being real and lets stay objective.

  • @flowerpower1272
    @flowerpower1272 12 днів тому +2

    I think it’s admirable that you’re admitting that you were wrong… but doesn’t it strike? You was odd that all of the psychics were wrong? Isn’t it more likely it was foul play? Can you read on it?

    • @angeladibble
      @angeladibble 7 днів тому +2

      Maybe she was correct. There is time yet.

  • @ArianneAvalon
    @ArianneAvalon 16 днів тому +1

    Craig Hamilton Parker (UK) highly respected medium predicted 4 years ago that trump would serve another term this time around. He is very always on point. I heard lots of people interpret cards and say yeah Kamala will win but I knew they were intrepreting it wrongly. Yeah it stings. The best way to read cards is with your intuition. Not what the book says. You really need to lean on spirit. If you are not naturally inclined to work with the spirit world Tarot doesn't work well.

  • @claudiaschneider5744
    @claudiaschneider5744 16 днів тому +2

    Those cards were correct but the results in real life were wrong.....now how about that? Though you did misinterpret the cards and life goes on, of course. Never mind. Sh....simply happens.🤔😟😳

  • @katecrossrhodes
    @katecrossrhodes 17 днів тому +2

    Very glad you were wrong!