The overlay of animation on top of real footage is really cool to see. It helps give perspective of what parts are moving at what speed in real time. Great video!
I love using this video to show my civilian mates a bit of my job. As a 5 inch maintainer, this video is pretty spot on as a quick explanation, without going too much into detail. I love working on this gun and have been lucky enough to have the chance to fire it locally during a GFT.
The small puff of smoke after the round leaves the muzzle is from the air blast that is ported into the breach as the block is opened to avoid the mount housing and lower assembly from filling with propellant smoke.
for hours........that’s nice of you. i work at an Artillerie Ammunition Plant and i smells it all days .(also bad for health) we made fuze, explosive filling, make increment charge and propellant bag for both mortar and artillery. some day we burn expired explosive, fuze propellant charge, all my uniform smell of TNT for week, and air quality is just shit. we wear mask for week (before virus, after virus is mask all day) but worsts of all is a guy at explosive smelting plants. those guys work with raw chemicals and explosives.
So did you guys discarde the empty brass? or did you collect it and return to the munitions maker? Also what targets are most likely for this gun? Can they take on other big warships (though I know that no one has battleships any more :( )
Back in the 1970's the MK45 I worked on was twice as fast as this. It had two loading drumbs in the Magazine, (two decks below the mount), and a double hoists taking the rounds to a twin carrier on the deck below the mount. The twin carrier would rotate the rounds to the guns orientation, where they were transfered up to the cradle in the mount which brought the rounds from vertical to horizontal. Once the rounds were horizontal the cradle would transfer it's round to the loading tray, to set any timed fuses, then to the ramming tray where it was rammed into the breach and fired. As the first round fired and recoiled, the breach would drop, the empty shell would be pulled from the breach into an ejector tray below the breach, where it was ejected under the barrell when the next round fired. We could fire 55 rounds per min, (and often did, as shore support in Viet Nam). This configuration required a Gunner's Mate in the mount and another at a control panel in the carrier room. It also required at least 6-8 men in the magazine to keep drumbs full. The one shown in the representation here looks like it may require less manpower, but I would think double the firing speed is well worth the cost of a couple extra GM's.
Very informative video, I look forward to purchasing my own MK-45 5-inch Gun. A few 5 inch shells will teach my neighbor not to let his dog out on my lawn.
I’d love to see one of these animations on the Des Moines class 8”/55 caliber guns. If I’m not mistaken they’re still the largest self loading artillery pieces ever made.
Unless you mean autoloading, that's dead wrong. The largest self loading naval artillery would be the 18.1 inch gun of the Yamato, who did not require a single person for it's reload process.
I worked on this system, the Mk45 Mod0 for 6 years and taught it at Great Lakes for 3 years, '81-84. This gives a good overview of how the system works.
XD you ever see the video of I think it's a Russian tank dispensing the casings behind it and there's infantry staying behind the tank and the casings keep nearly hitting them. It's kinda funny to watch.
@@CrackedCandy I don't quite get it, size or caliber but calibers went from 20mm all the way to 80mm. Of course there's the measurement Anglo in inches, from 5 to 15 & more, different ships sometime had a combo, pounders goes from 12 to 32. WW2 style went generally from 8 inch- 55. Some experimentation have been done with 18.1 inch. US settled for the 5/38 from ww2 & on.
127mm is 5 inch. I never thought about it. Now the soviet M-30, D-30 and self propelled 122mm Grozdika(spelling?) Makes much more sense. I thought it was an oddball caliber that nobody else used. Thanks for illuminating this for me. Excellent animations.
It's even cooler watching the internal components work down below. The animation doesn't do it justice. One time we got a round stuck in the barrel (which is semi-common) and had to blast it out with a clearing charge. In local control, there's no automatic stabilization, so as the ship rolled, we fired into the water about a hundred yards off the port side. I was walking forward on the weather deck at the time. Scared the shit out of me lol
@@christofincognito4530 The projectiles have a soft copper ring around the outside called a bourrelet or rotating band. When the round is rammed into the gun, the lands of the rifling dig into the copper to form a tight seal. You can't get that round back out without firing it. Or at least not easily. So you use a smaller size powder can called a clearing charge to get it out.
So what good is it to fire into the water? Couldn’t they have figured out how to compensate for that? Also, if a round got stuck wouldn’t that destroy the bore?
Back when they had an actual GM school at Great Lakes, there was a fully functioning Mk-45 mount. That was a truly beautiful building, I can't believe they demolished it.
@@FormerVicePresidentDickVeiny Sometime around 2008, I think. It was sitting empty for years. Thing was like 400k square feet, cost a lot just to maintain it empty.
@@tstahler5420 I was on board Great Lakes in 2000 and 2001 when I was in the Sea Cadets in high school and even had a class in the GM building. I know the building was still being used then.
@@FormerVicePresidentDickVeiny In '86, I attended GM phase 1, then rocked out of BEE school. I have never been soo happy to fail at something and depart a location in my life! I will never, willingly return to Illinois in my lifetime. 😂
@@tstahler5420 ha! Good one. I had my heart set on becoming a GM out of high school, but when the navy recruiter told me that rate wasn't open for another year, I signed up infantry Marines. Haha big woops!
i once heard a military quote "amateurs talk about tactics, professionals talk about logistics" i feel like this is the kind of stuff the professionals talk about
As an ex GM on the mark 45 mod 1 (5" 54 cal) rate of fire was 16 to 20 rounds per minute...depending on elevation. This shown is the forward gun mount...I was an operator... a pain in the ass to bleed the air out. Mod 2 was supposed to be self bleeding...was out before that came out. @5:45 mod 1 outer shell. Off on the animation with the recoil, ejection tray and cradle animations.
As a current serving Gunbuster in the Royal Australian Navy I get ya with the bleeding maintenance. I just finished my mod 4 course done with GM's in San Diego a few months ago. You guys have some pretty switched on GM's and it was heaps of fun working and learning with the USN.
What this video does not explain: how the casing and the shell are getting transported upwards. I mean: what drives them forward? And it is also unclear how the empty casings are getting out of the chamber?
the empty casings are launched out by an extractor, basically a rod that catches the "lip" or rim of the propellant casing. not sure how similar it is to ground based artillery, but alot of extractors are cocked by the recoil of the gun to give it the necessary force to unstick the casings from the chamber.
@@MUJUNKY thank you. That is the same principle as for semiautomatic guns. But it was not shown here in this animation. And it is still unclear how the casings are ejected from the turret and before that how the ammunition gets elevated to the chamber.
@@ralfhtg1056 the ammo elevator is essentially a chain driven platform, it has a small floor or step attached, loads the new projectile and propellant into the drum, then the little platform folds over and goes back down. Not the best explanation, just drawing from memory of a video I saw. As for the mechanism that throws the casing out of the turret, I have no idea. You may try to find a video like "inside the turret Arleigh Burke" the TV show The Last Ship had some pretty cool inside the turret clips of the gun system working that may be what you're looking for.
Eh, okay animations I guess. Would have been better if it included how the ammunition hoist worked and the rammer and the way the main magazine gets ammo to the hoist. But lots of boom boom so, it's pretty good.
@@LEEGOOVER9901 two parts of hoist: upper hoist, lower hoist, both powered by hydraulics. lower hoist is a chain system with two tubes like shown, one goes up on goes down. Upper hoist only goes up. when the drum rotates the a round will sit on the upper hoist, the shell goes up into the cradle and the cradle locks the shell and swing to gun elevation axis. A rammer powered by hydraulics which sits in the slide, ram the shell and the breechlock is dropped. after the cradle is lowered the round is fired and the slide recoils. Then a case tray lowers and the breech is opened, the extractor pulls back the shell and it sits on the case tray and it is ejected as shown above, meanwhile the cradle is lowered to receive another round.
The older Mk42 rate of fire was 40 RPM and had dual loading drums and dual sided loaders. The gun barrel was heavier. 3 of these guns with 1000-1200 magazines each like the old Forest Sherman I was on could put out 120 RPM. Of course you went into a hot gun situation pretty quick which was dangerous but you get the idea. Guns are no longer the Main Battery on a ship, hence the single and slower MK45
And they are mainly used for ground support and firing warning shots, so a reliable and light design is more important. The Mk42 where AFAIK downrated to 28 rounds per minute in the late 1960's and weighted about 60 tons per turret, while the Mk45/54 weights in around 25 tons with about 20 rounds per minute. The Bofors 120mm Model 1950 did 40-45 rounds per minute BTW, with destroyers having 4 or 6 guns each (in twin turrets), for a total of 160 to 270 rounds per minute. There was also later Bofors 120mm designs, designed to fire 75-80 rounds per minute per barrel, but they didn't see much use. In the US there was work on the 5"Mk Mark 65/66 as a alternative to the Mark 45, firing 48 rounds per minute per barrel with the Mark 65 having a single barrel and the Mark 66 two.
What happened when the ammunition inventory got low? I've seen footage taken from spotter planes in the Vietnam war showing multiple square miles of cratered land after being shelled by a battleship and it looks to me like an inconceivable amount of shells. Was it common to be resupplied with ammunition at sea or did the ships generally have to sail to a port for resupply? The scale of it all is very amazing to me: the guns, the boats, the logistics, and the engineering.
@@steventhehistorian Either by Underway replenishment or by heading to a port if it was close enough. Unrep in those days was mostly ship to ship. Vertical Replenishment is the prmary means at present.
@@concernedcivilianwilliam3396 Good to hear. Well if you have replicate your enemy's weapon system, but your enemy has a better weapon system than yours then start copying it to improve your current weapon system as well. Right?
@@jhonfloibelmiculob6581 yes, I guess you are right. But don’t worry about too much I reckon. As much as I like warship guns, they are not that useful in actual combat except bullying small ships and warning shots. This is my conception at least, somebody plz correct me if I’m wrong.
mechanical firing mechanisms are easy to replicate, the real secrets are the targeting computer/system, the propellant for the munition and the munition itself, really, modern ballistics theories have been around for over 100 years, this gun is mechanically simple to emulate
Is the projectile crimped to the charge base? If not, how does one unload the projectile when a cease fire is ordered and a round is loaded? I see the base is lipped for extraction but what about the projectile? Excellent animation by the way. Very well done!
It does not load then wait to fire. The barrel stays empty until the fire signal then the round loads and instantly fires. Keeps rounds from getting heat soaked AND there's air blowing down the barrel to clear fumes out of the turret and slightly cool the barrel. Watch the firing video again and see the small second puff of smoke after the first firing cloud. Also, these rounds are programmable so they can be switched out for a different one or programed just before inserting and firing
@@bobjoatmon1993 Thank you for the detailed explanation. Makes sense. Didn't notice the second puff of smoke the first time I watched it, but did now. Thanks again!
Question, why would they not make one of thoes in a larger callibler that 127mm? why not a 355mm or a 406mm? ( on a bigger ship of course ) does it have something to do with barrel tolerances or logistics issues?
There is no longer a need for rounds larger than 5 inch 127mm anymore. Missiles and aircraft smart bombs can do a better job with more precision. The USN had autoloading 8 inch guns in the 1950's on the Uss Salem.
The original system first used on the USS Salem's 3"/70 guns in the 1940s used a single rammer to do two functions. This system split the job between two rammers. Much simpler and more straightforward.
@@ghost307 or for people who realize it make more sense to have a robot which is faster, can't drop shit, takes up less space and can be ready to load the gun instantly without having to station someone in the gun makes more sense
I am speculating, but since the turret is rotating, the ejecting shell casing could possibly end up striking something that should not be struck, like the ship's superstructure. Since the barrel is pointed in the direction of what is to be destroyed, tossing the steel casing in its direction is the lesser of the evils. Everyone aboard is aware at a glance, not that you see anyone out for a stroll during battle stations. A dedicated storage for the empty casings adds another level of complexity, in terms of added cost, the need for more space, & the possibility of a malfunction causing the gun to cease firing.
The overlay of animation on top of real footage is really cool to see. It helps give perspective of what parts are moving at what speed in real time. Great video!
Excellent animation, mixed in with an actually firing but being able to see what's going on inside. Love this
I love using this video to show my civilian mates a bit of my job. As a 5 inch maintainer, this video is pretty spot on as a quick explanation, without going too much into detail. I love working on this gun and have been lucky enough to have the chance to fire it locally during a GFT.
The small puff of smoke after the round leaves the muzzle is from the air blast that is ported into the breach as the block is opened to avoid the mount housing and lower assembly from filling with propellant smoke.
While the ventilation is nice, it's actual primary use is to clear any un-burnt powder from the barrel, to prevent an unexpected flash.
Explains the lack of a gas recuperator. Not needed, vs in a tank or howitzer turret.
Jeez this animation is so freaking clear! Good job!
Where have I seen that profile picture before?
The perspective drawing is really good
なるほどこうなっているのか。
構造面白いな。中身見れてよかった。
This is what makes UA-cam such a great place
then the whole boat smells like sulfur for hours. having the chance to shoot one of those guns was one of the best parts of my naval career.
What causes the sulfur smell?
@@hrgwea Sulfur, Cletus.
for hours........that’s nice of you.
i work at an Artillerie Ammunition Plant and i smells it all days .(also bad for health)
we made fuze, explosive filling, make increment charge and propellant bag for both mortar and artillery.
some day we burn expired explosive, fuze propellant charge, all my uniform smell of TNT for week, and air quality is just shit. we wear mask for week (before virus, after virus is mask all day)
but worsts of all is a guy at explosive smelting plants. those guys work with raw chemicals and explosives.
So did you guys discarde the empty brass? or did you collect it and return to the munitions maker? Also what targets are most likely for this gun? Can they take on other big warships (though I know that no one has battleships any more :( )
@@hrgwea
Ass gas
Back in the 1970's the MK45 I worked on was twice as fast as this. It had two loading drumbs in the Magazine, (two decks below the mount), and a double hoists taking the rounds to a twin carrier on the deck below the mount. The twin carrier would rotate the rounds to the guns orientation, where they were transfered up to the cradle in the mount which brought the rounds from vertical to horizontal. Once the rounds were horizontal the cradle would transfer it's round to the loading tray, to set any timed fuses, then to the ramming tray where it was rammed into the breach and fired. As the first round fired and recoiled, the breach would drop, the empty shell would be pulled from the breach into an ejector tray below the breach, where it was ejected under the barrell when the next round fired. We could fire 55 rounds per min, (and often did, as shore support in Viet Nam).
This configuration required a Gunner's Mate in the mount and another at a control panel in the carrier room. It also required at least 6-8 men in the magazine to keep drumbs full. The one shown in the representation here looks like it may require less manpower, but I would think double the firing speed is well worth the cost of a couple extra GM's.
Dang, now I want to see that visualized too
@@croskerk watch the video in 2x speed
@@nitsu2947 XD alright
Gracious Lord, Mr Wolff! How hot did that gun run?
sounds like the MK 42 not Mk45 it had two drums and cradles and a bubble on top that can be manned the Mk 45 was a unmanned mount.
2:30 the animation, omfg! God tier!~
True true
Very informative video, I look forward to purchasing my own MK-45 5-inch Gun. A few 5 inch shells will teach my neighbor not to let his dog out on my lawn.
Am from the future. I am curious about this event.
😂😂😂
A
Totally amazing graphics! Very detailed! Extremely understandable! Good work guys and/or girls!!
You forgot to show the Gunners Mates taking turns sleeping in the Magazine.
it's a crappy video indeed
Best sleep I've ever had was atop a pallet of A576
Especially in Subic
That face when you're just a dirty GSM
You lads really do that?
射撃した後の残ガスがポワっと出るのが好き！
タバコの煙吹いてるようにしか見えない
こんな構造なのに連射できるのは本当に凄い
This is a beautiful and perfect 3d animation!!
I’d love to see one of these animations on the Des Moines class 8”/55 caliber guns. If I’m not mistaken they’re still the largest self loading artillery pieces ever made.
ho ri cheese I forgot the Des Memes(Moines) got sum DPM/RoF
Same here
Possible but I believe the 8 inch cannon installed on the USS Hull DD 945 in the 70's where fully automated
Unless you mean autoloading, that's dead wrong. The largest self loading naval artillery would be the 18.1 inch gun of the Yamato, who did not require a single person for it's reload process.
実映像とCGの組み合わせでめちゃくちゃわかりやすい
まじでそれ
凄いよなこれ作った人
パソコンいじれる人っていーよなあ。尊敬する。
あ、Anneさんも尊敬してます("｀д´)ゞ
Парни давай на нашем языке говорить
I don't speak London.
I worked on this system, the Mk45 Mod0 for 6 years and taught it at Great Lakes for 3 years, '81-84. This gives a good overview of how the system works.
実写とCGの組み合わせで凄く分かりやすい。
しかし、Anneはどこ行った？？
This is amazing! Do you think that you could do another video similar to this one about an older version of this gun, the 5”/38 caliber gun from WW2?
船の揺れに合わせて砲の角度修正してるの好き
スタビライザーですね。射撃指揮装置と連動しているのでこう言うことが可能になります。昔はこれを人でやっていたのでその時からすれば隔世の気分ですね。
@@kisaragi0121 制御が素晴らしいです！美しく、可愛らしさすら感じます。
これを昔は人力でやっていたとは…
昔の人恐るべし、です。
それを戦艦の巨砲でやってたとかすご
@@四季-i5k
戦艦とかだと修正してたんじゃなくて仰角を固定した後揺れでちょうどピッタリになるタイミングに合わせて撃ってたはず。そもそも仰俯角を変える速度が速くないから。
Watch them shoot one. When I was in Navy, on Gonzo station! USS Barney! What a Gun!
An improved, automated, streamed lined system from the old system of gunnery of he old gunships.
Watch the USS Missouri Fires, i was in there when my grandfather is aboard before its displayed in the hawaii
What are they typically used for? What kinda range do they get?
POV: Scrolling to find an English comment.
Yup
As useless an exercise as watching this stupid cartoon.
@@boxhawk5070 so y are you here with us?
Yup
@@boxhawk5070 then why are u watching this???
the part where the real life footage is combined with the animation is amazing!
自由研究で艦載砲を作ろうと思ってたので助かりました！
('-' ).........。は?!
I love a good gun that tries to throw the casing at the enemy after shooting them
XD you ever see the video of I think it's a Russian tank dispensing the casings behind it and there's infantry staying behind the tank and the casings keep nearly hitting them. It's kinda funny to watch.
You just made me like my RFB more.
@@TheThatoneguy12121 lol, i saw that
😅👍
Kobe
くり抜きCG映像がめちゃくちゃ解りやすい！これ作ったエディターの方👍
Thanks for this animation, now I'll have to convince my wife to let me mount one on my truck. 'Merica!!
最近、弾薬とか発射装置とかの説明がおおくて嬉しい…
英語が読めないと全く理解できない分野なのでどんどん取り上げてほしい。
米軍に武器を納入するメーカーの紹介とかもあったら嬉しいなぁ…
字幕から日本語を選択すると見れるで
@@Welcy.
説明不足でしたね。ネットに転がっている文献とかは英文で専門的なので日本語訳するだけで一苦労ということです。
@@多目的ホール-y2u 自分が貴方のコメントをしっかり読んでませんでした…
すみません！
英語字幕しかない場合
再生数と同じ行にある「・・・」このボタンから文字おこしを推すとテキストを抽出できるから
それを外部の精度の高い翻訳ソフトにいれて翻訳する楽でっせ
@@MetallRhein DeepL翻訳って最高ですよね
120 years of naval gun technology, and we still have spent casings rolling around on the deck.
Was thinking the same, seems like a waste of resources as well...
And what would you have them do?
@@Nr15121Silly question. Store them for recycle in the empty magazine.
i love how the loading system is perfectly shoot and loading in a real naval gun
Excellent video, the combo of live action and animation makes it clear what an engineering marvel this gun mount is.
3秒に1発の速度で30kmも飛ぶ弾撃ってくるんだから凄いよな
That's a lot of casings rolling around the deck. Do they literally just let them roll around until the end of combat? What happens to them afterwards?
My GQ Station on my cruiser was in the deep mag for the forward 5 inch, slinging powders and projectiles into the hoist as fast as we could
An improved, automated, streamed lined version of the old guns of old gunships.
@@florinelenaradamilea what size were the old guns of the line?
@@CrackedCandy I don't quite get it, size or caliber but calibers went from 20mm all the way to 80mm. Of course there's the measurement Anglo in inches, from 5 to 15 & more, different ships sometime had a combo, pounders goes from 12 to 32. WW2 style went generally from 8 inch- 55. Some experimentation have been done with 18.1 inch. US settled for the 5/38 from ww2 & on.
@@florinelenaradamilea well, I guess it's right there in the title. 5". Thanks Florin
@@florinelenaradamilea These cases look longer like 5 inch 54's, not the shorter 5''-38's.
127mm is 5 inch. I never thought about it. Now the soviet M-30, D-30 and self propelled 122mm Grozdika(spelling?) Makes much more sense. I thought it was an oddball caliber that nobody else used.
Thanks for illuminating this for me.
Excellent animations.
It's even cooler watching the internal components work down below. The animation doesn't do it justice. One time we got a round stuck in the barrel (which is semi-common) and had to blast it out with a clearing charge. In local control, there's no automatic stabilization, so as the ship rolled, we fired into the water about a hundred yards off the port side. I was walking forward on the weather deck at the time. Scared the shit out of me lol
why the hell get rounds stuck in the barrel? corrosion? low temperature?
@@christofincognito4530 The projectiles have a soft copper ring around the outside called a bourrelet or rotating band. When the round is rammed into the gun, the lands of the rifling dig into the copper to form a tight seal. You can't get that round back out without firing it. Or at least not easily. So you use a smaller size powder can called a clearing charge to get it out.
@@billparker244 ok that explains how it is fixed, but what is the reason why it gets stuck? faulty round?
@@christofincognito4530 All ordnance has a failure rate, yes.
So what good is it to fire into the water? Couldn’t they have figured out how to compensate for that? Also, if a round got stuck wouldn’t that destroy the bore?
Thanks for the video. This is quite an eye opening .
艦載砲の中をCGで表してくれんのほんとわかりやすい
Back when they had an actual GM school at Great Lakes, there was a fully functioning Mk-45 mount. That was a truly beautiful building, I can't believe they demolished it.
All green glass. Very cool. Didn't know they tore it down.
@@FormerVicePresidentDickVeiny Sometime around 2008, I think. It was sitting empty for years. Thing was like 400k square feet, cost a lot just to maintain it empty.
@@tstahler5420 I was on board Great Lakes in 2000 and 2001 when I was in the Sea Cadets in high school and even had a class in the GM building.
I know the building was still being used then.
@@FormerVicePresidentDickVeiny In '86, I attended GM phase 1, then rocked out of BEE school. I have never been soo happy to fail at something and depart a location in my life! I will never, willingly return to Illinois in my lifetime. 😂
@@tstahler5420 ha! Good one. I had my heart set on becoming a GM out of high school, but when the navy recruiter told me that rate wasn't open for another year, I signed up infantry Marines. Haha big woops!
Love the sound of the empty casings rolling on the deck.
I'm sure the boatswains mates don't 😂
@@jedisaki730 Lol.
They would sound much better if they were the old school brass versions!
Was pretty cool to see the barrel track the target as the ship listed.
i once heard a military quote "amateurs talk about tactics, professionals talk about logistics"
i feel like this is the kind of stuff the professionals talk about
And war gods do both
As an ex GM on the mark 45 mod 1 (5" 54 cal) rate of fire was 16 to 20 rounds per minute...depending on elevation. This shown is the forward gun mount...I was an operator... a pain in the ass to bleed the air out. Mod 2 was supposed to be self bleeding...was out before that came out.
@5:45 mod 1 outer shell.
Off on the animation with the recoil, ejection tray and cradle animations.
As a current serving Gunbuster in the Royal Australian Navy I get ya with the bleeding maintenance. I just finished my mod 4 course done with GM's in San Diego a few months ago. You guys have some pretty switched on GM's and it was heaps of fun working and learning with the USN.
給弾システムも凄いけど、この給弾システムであれだけの速射能力を出せる事がもっと凄いと思う…第二次世界大戦頃の技術力だと多分同じシステムでも動力の差によってもっと時間がかかったと思う。
やっぱり技術力って時代毎に変化してるんだね。
給弾システムショボいから連装化してたんやで
@@asuteru0831 なるほど頭良いな
I think it's funny that they designed it such that the spent casing just gets dumped on the deck and allowed to roll around causing trip hazard.
03:00あたりからずっと見てられる
What this video does not explain: how the casing and the shell are getting transported upwards. I mean: what drives them forward? And it is also unclear how the empty casings are getting out of the chamber?
Mere Freedom Magic
Magneto doing it
the empty casings are launched out by an extractor, basically a rod that catches the "lip" or rim of the propellant casing. not sure how similar it is to ground based artillery, but alot of extractors are cocked by the recoil of the gun to give it the necessary force to unstick the casings from the chamber.
@@MUJUNKY thank you. That is the same principle as for semiautomatic guns. But it was not shown here in this animation. And it is still unclear how the casings are ejected from the turret and before that how the ammunition gets elevated to the chamber.
@@ralfhtg1056 the ammo elevator is essentially a chain driven platform, it has a small floor or step attached, loads the new projectile and propellant into the drum, then the little platform folds over and goes back down. Not the best explanation, just drawing from memory of a video I saw. As for the mechanism that throws the casing out of the turret, I have no idea. You may try to find a video like "inside the turret Arleigh Burke" the TV show The Last Ship had some pretty cool inside the turret clips of the gun system working that may be what you're looking for.
Take out the middle man. Pretty darn cool!
実写とCGを違和感無く合わせるとは、流石アメリカ。これは軍でやってるのか、それとも外注なのか。
オートメラーラとかボフォースとかが自社製品の宣伝で作ってるんじゃない？
вообще это показуха
мультик
цыркон решает все проблемы
@@lomaster94lomaster60 あーなるほどねそれかもしれんわでも良くそんなのわかるなw
Awesome animation
Imagine being one of the guys who crews this gun in a fight. Making sure your gun ready, working and keeps firing!
I'm one of those guys, really awesome system and lots of fun to maintain!
Very well executed "augmented reallity" with the overlays!
Eh, okay animations I guess. Would have been better if it included how the ammunition hoist worked and the rammer and the way the main magazine gets ammo to the hoist. But lots of boom boom so, it's pretty good.
the breech, hoist, rammer, the lift is kinda off as it is doesnt show how it move the projectile
You know,its still "classified"
It doesn't show the mechanism recoiling inside the turret either.
My guess would be compressed air acting as a rammer.
@@LEEGOOVER9901 two parts of hoist: upper hoist, lower hoist, both powered by hydraulics. lower hoist is a chain system with two tubes like shown, one goes up on goes down. Upper hoist only goes up. when the drum rotates the a round will sit on the upper hoist, the shell goes up into the cradle and the cradle locks the shell and swing to gun elevation axis. A rammer powered by hydraulics which sits in the slide, ram the shell and the breechlock is dropped. after the cradle is lowered the round is fired and the slide recoils. Then a case tray lowers and the breech is opened, the extractor pulls back the shell and it sits on the case tray and it is ejected as shown above, meanwhile the cradle is lowered to receive another round.
an image worth a thousand words.... very well made video bravo!!!
The older Mk42 rate of fire was 40 RPM and had dual loading drums and dual sided loaders. The gun barrel was heavier. 3 of these guns with 1000-1200 magazines each like the old Forest Sherman I was on could put out 120 RPM. Of course you went into a hot gun situation pretty quick which was dangerous but you get the idea. Guns are no longer the Main Battery on a ship, hence the single and slower MK45
And they are mainly used for ground support and firing warning shots, so a reliable and light design is more important. The Mk42 where AFAIK downrated to 28 rounds per minute in the late 1960's and weighted about 60 tons per turret, while the Mk45/54 weights in around 25 tons with about 20 rounds per minute. The Bofors 120mm Model 1950 did 40-45 rounds per minute BTW, with destroyers having 4 or 6 guns each (in twin turrets), for a total of 160 to 270 rounds per minute. There was also later Bofors 120mm designs, designed to fire 75-80 rounds per minute per barrel, but they didn't see much use. In the US there was work on the 5"Mk Mark 65/66 as a alternative to the Mark 45, firing 48 rounds per minute per barrel with the Mark 65 having a single barrel and the Mark 66 two.
What happened when the ammunition inventory got low? I've seen footage taken from spotter planes in the Vietnam war showing multiple square miles of cratered land after being shelled by a battleship and it looks to me like an inconceivable amount of shells. Was it common to be resupplied with ammunition at sea or did the ships generally have to sail to a port for resupply? The scale of it all is very amazing to me: the guns, the boats, the logistics, and the engineering.
@@steventhehistorian Either by Underway replenishment or by heading to a port if it was close enough. Unrep in those days was mostly ship to ship. Vertical Replenishment is the prmary means at present.
Stupid question, anyone know why they didn't build it so the casing ejected out of the back? I feel like that would have been simpler to design.
ちょうど春休みの自由研究でMk-45を自作しようと思ってたので、すっげぇ助かりました（）
Amazing animation skills. Good effort.
China: Thank you uploader. We're gonna start copying to improve our current naval gun system.
Plz, as if they haven't got a copy of complete thing already, lol. But yeah, I get your point.
@@concernedcivilianwilliam3396 Good to hear. Well if you have replicate your enemy's weapon system, but your enemy has a better weapon system than yours then start copying it to improve your current weapon system as well. Right?
@@jhonfloibelmiculob6581 yes, I guess you are right. But don’t worry about too much I reckon. As much as I like warship guns, they are not that useful in actual combat except bullying small ships and warning shots. This is my conception at least, somebody plz correct me if I’m wrong.
@@concernedcivilianwilliam3396 No need to correct you, I also got your point.
mechanical firing mechanisms are easy to replicate, the real secrets are the targeting computer/system, the propellant for the munition and the munition itself, really, modern ballistics theories have been around for over 100 years, this gun is mechanically simple to emulate
I can watch these for so long i have to set a timer as to not waist the whole day
昔の艦砲みたいに直下の弾薬庫ごと回ってるのかと思ってたけど、揚弾する部分を軸にして砲塔だけ回してるのか。
勉強になるなぁ。
軽量化のためですかね。弾薬庫部分を回さなきゃその分回る部分が軽くなりますし。そうすれば旋回も早くなるので。
6:21 10 point dive for that shell casing
Haha nice catch
that composite animation is really cool.
なるほどわかりいいね！いいわ！スゴいわ！！！
艦載砲の薬莢がピョコッと出てくるの好き
その薬莢、家に飾って置きたい(笑)
それな
トイレットペーパーの芯で真似してる笑
なお、一発の値段が自動車
@@佐藤しいな-y4d
わかりますw
@@yoshi-cat9902 そんなに高くない。パソコン１台分くらいかな。
What's fun is when BOTH mounts are firing as well as VLS and other shots all at the same time.
Is the projectile crimped to the charge base? If not, how does one unload the projectile when a cease fire is ordered and a round is loaded? I see the base is lipped for extraction but what about the projectile? Excellent animation by the way. Very well done!
It does not load then wait to fire. The barrel stays empty until the fire signal then the round loads and instantly fires. Keeps rounds from getting heat soaked AND there's air blowing down the barrel to clear fumes out of the turret and slightly cool the barrel. Watch the firing video again and see the small second puff of smoke after the first firing cloud.
Also, these rounds are programmable so they can be switched out for a different one or programed just before inserting and firing
@@bobjoatmon1993 Thank you for the detailed explanation. Makes sense. Didn't notice the second puff of smoke the first time I watched it, but did now. Thanks again!
Question, why would they not make one of thoes in a larger callibler that 127mm? why not a 355mm or a 406mm? ( on a bigger ship of course ) does it have something to do with barrel tolerances or logistics issues?
There is no longer a need for rounds larger than 5 inch 127mm anymore. Missiles and aircraft smart bombs can do a better job with more precision. The USN had autoloading 8 inch guns in the 1950's on the Uss Salem.
戦車だけでなく艦載砲にも自動装填システムが使われていたんですね
海上自衛隊もこの艦載砲を採用していたとは
空薬莢を排出する音はパンツァーフロントを思い出しました
Really nicely done. Would be nice to see it actually hit something.
Why don't they catch the casings...Seems like a win win. Easily make more rounds with that
Cuz they're rich
Замечательно.
Но ствол надо охлаждать.
И как это работает при выполнении команды о прекращении стрельбы, если пушка уже заряжена?
молоток останавливается
молоток останавливается
撃った後に煙がタバコみたいに出てくるの好き
くさ
As a former army artilleryman (13E40) I've always been fascinated by how the navy does it. 😊
Much improved over the Rube Goldberg mechanisms of the late 1940s.
How is that ?
It is definitely designed for people who are too lazy to load the guy.
The original system first used on the USS Salem's 3"/70 guns in the 1940s used a single rammer to do two functions. This system split the job between two rammers. Much simpler and more straightforward.
Also took the gunner out of the turret.
@@ghost307 or for people who realize it make more sense to have a robot which is faster, can't drop shit, takes up less space and can be ready to load the gun instantly without having to station someone in the gun makes more sense
My ship is in two of these clips at 5:45 and 7:26. Was on the deployments for both of those shoots.
確か、海自の新型護衛艦もこのタイプの主砲だったはず、装填と薬莢の排出の構造がこうなっていたのか。
あたご型以降は全てこれですかねえ
タイプというか、MK45だよw
というか日本は実質これしか無いやん、乙女はあれやし....ｗ
i need videos like this in my life.
Ayo I thought there was always someone inside grabbing the casing and chucking it out the hatch /s
Me too, but that’s only tanks
@@jksupergamer tanks use consumable shells. The only thing that gets discarded by hand is the det-tube that's dropped through the floor hatch.
@@BradUSMCVETrider oh I read the comment wrong, I thought it said they thought someone was operating the gun from the inside
Its the same guy who works inside the ATM machine, who pushes the money out through that small slot in the ATM.
@@ataxpayer723 but ATM machines are so small. O.o I always thought the banks had trained hamsters in there for the money handling
Why the spent casing/shell is ejected forward (unto deck)? Why not sideward or backward? Or directly into dump storage?
I am speculating, but since the turret is rotating, the ejecting shell casing could possibly end up striking something that should not be struck, like the ship's superstructure. Since the barrel is pointed in the direction of what is to be destroyed, tossing the steel casing in its direction is the lesser of the evils. Everyone aboard is aware at a glance, not that you see anyone out for a stroll during battle stations. A dedicated storage for the empty casings adds another level of complexity, in terms of added cost, the need for more space, & the possibility of a malfunction causing the gun to cease firing.
@@Urbicide ah yes, that's very makes sense. You don't want to be anywhere near the barrel of big gun is pointing toward.
Where's the suppressor?
Inside the barrrel
Sent to Ukraine 🇺🇦
Lol
The coast guard: responding to my SOS
Me:
*freebird starts playing*
To me, the interesting part is how the hoists and rammers work, but that wasn't included in the animation.
Desk division used to hate the 5" firing. Would leave little smiley faces when they chipped the non skid.
the casings did make great butt kits.
砲の仰角を維持したまま給弾できるシステムになってるんですね。
なぜ薬莢を放り出すのか常々疑問だったんですけど、確かにこれだと
放り出す方が色々と安全かもしれないですね。
連射サイクルをあげるため、放り出さないとダメなんです。装填と排莢は連動してるので。
5-inch/54 is the correct nomenclature. The shell is 5 inches. The barrel length is 54 times the caliber (5 inches) which makes it 270 inches.
動画ありがとうございます
そういえばズムウォルト級に､2基備える大型艦砲「155mm AGS（先進ガンシステム）」はどうなりましたか??(触れてはいけn…)
とりあえずガワだけですね。ご存知かと思いますがあのクラスの建造費がめちゃくちゃ高くそれで3隻で打ち切られたため弾丸もべらぼうに高い。一発ン億円とかだったような…結局張子の虎になってしまった。
シンプルな構造。
かつての戦艦大和の時代より遥かに
スッキリとしている。
これは分かりやすいですね。もっと軍隊に詳しくなってきたな。
次の動画も楽しみにしてます。
Excellent job with this video. It is really nice.
if i had one of those, i would mount a chair on top of it and drink beer while i blow shit up.
The real American dream
...you couldn't afford the UPKEEP- or the AMMUNITION!!
You would be smelling sulfur all the time and getting cooked by the gun
@@sergeantblue6115 ...and the concussion would be harmful-(!)
@@daleburrell6273 agreed,even the 3 inch gun kicks a lot,the 5 inch would probably knock off his chair
I wondered how they worked, now I know. Thank you 😊
去年からイベントがほとんど中止になり見に行けないのが残念。
good explanation!
水平線と砲身の角度が変わらない。すごい！
ようつべでここまで公開できるの凄い
メーカーがＰＤＦでもっと詳細なの公開してるから興味あるなら見てみるといいで
@@MetallRhein メーカーが出してるのか！！
すげええええええ！！
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ふむふむ
ローダーへの装填方法と排莢で薬莢が吸って吐かれる仕組みがよくわからないけど
P90みたいなアイデアでおもしろい。
これを見て模倣してKが付くとダメになるパターン。
装填は人力、薬莢は爪で蹴りだされます。
装填はチェーンラマー 排莢は銃と同じでエキストラクターを薬莢のリムに引っかけて排莢してる。
オートローダーの即応弾は20発 それ以外は人力装填
なるほどなるほど。
装填手は毎日50発とか100発の装填練習してるのかな？( ´ω`)