I noticed the lazy sheet got carried away by the wind. But you are right, you could have eased the mainsheet, or headed up for a minute and roller furled. Trying to roller furl a genny when under load is damned near impossible. But I love these videos! Nice and long! I sail on the East Coast in New England.
That really was a nasty squall. Your crew stayed calm. I have sailed the North Atlantic, but only once or twice faced the anger of a shallow water squall. I am afraid, with a young crew, I would simply have turned the motor on or turned and ran. To each his own. Good video. Thanks.
Awesome sail technique with an experienced crew. Really valuable material to give me some ideas on how to handle a situation like this. The most important thing is everyone on board were as cool as cucumbers. Thanks!
A little surprised you didn't have jacklines & tethers given the forecast. Retrieving MOB would be challenging in these conditions with only one crew left on board. Good video.
stopper knots? bear away and ease sheets to control the heel while reefing? Use the working jib sheet to haul the furling line? balance sail plan to prevent stalled rudder? But it looked like great fun! Fair Winds :-)
A bit nautical out there that day -- somewhat typical for Puget Sound. Reminds me of a 'round two islands race in SoCal many, MANY years ago, on my dad's Columbia 50. Trying to get around the west end of Catalina Island in 45-50 kt winds and 15 ft rollers. We were taking knock-downs every other wave while attempting to roller-reef the main. Too much load on the main plus the roller-reef mechanism was seized up due to non-use. We barely got a full turn on the boom and had to give it up. We dropped out after watching several boats around us in similar circumstances start losing masts one after the other. Surfed home on main only for 26 miles; fastest I'd ever seen that old boat move.
we were slightly ahead of you and the j35, on the f27 tri. We took down all sails after taking a large arch to windward. The J35 got caught with a lee shore when the eye of the storm hit. Was a very sad RTC.
thanks for comments. main was not a prob, and even when flogging the pressure on the roller furling line was too much to hand pull genoa in. yes a small winch for this line would be ideal. now I consider putting it on the winch during the unroll, esp if no tacking ahead, so lazy winch is devoted to rolling in genoa under load...even heading up in that much wind you need winch. traveler ease should have been first, but not easy with this particular rig. it was all in control and strong boat: fun
Great video, I'm actually thinking of seeking out conditions like that to shoot video of and show storm tactics. And to respond to all of the "no jacklines" comments: I have sailed solo from S. Florida to Trinidad and back twice with no jacklines. I always observe rule #1, don't fall off!
I've been told to never put the jib furling line on a winch because it can cause the forestay to break, leading to a dismasting. I've certainly been tempted to do it many times. It can be near impossible to furl when the wind is really blowing.
tethers for sure if waves were larger or sailing at night. we tucked into Blakely Island for dinner! But point made - retrieval would be hard, staying on the boat is easier.
I very much agree with harstine about safety first. I got caught in a Chabasco half way between Cabo and San Diego a few years back - gusts to 65 knots with cresting/breaking 30 to 40 ft rollers - we wouldn't exit the companion way without clipping onto the jack-line first. Retrieving a MOB is is just plain annoying.
right - i haven't and don't want to, especially since unlike Carib this water is crazy cold. will be back out there for two days of racing april 6 and 7 on a J33 in the "Tulip Cup" run by Anacortes Yacht Club. tomorrow!
when we got into the big air we had a double-reefed main already, and once in the high wind (35-50 knots) got into the process of rolling up the genoa. indeed it is all about the sail plan!
Yeah, I'd have put the boat in irons at 2:30 and reefed in... I crossed Dixon Entrance out of Prince Rupert once in a 24 ft Trimaran...5 foot seas, but swells, relatively flat, 14 knot wind, and I was crying like a baby... well, not really, but nervous anyway... you never know when the wind will come up sudden... but once in the Misty Fyords,,, beautiful, protected waters, best fishing I ever did in my life...
To much sail, yeah fun times,ease up on the main tighten up on your working sail, it's just the opposite on this video. Still NO KNOCK DOWN, our last of the season race, gig harbor round Blake island and back, had 30kt. Gusts and over 24 kts. continuous , we really did get knocked down, I mean standing on the toe rail straight up and down, water in the cockpit and below, skipper did not take crews advise to douse the spinnaker and put the cabin boards in :: so, he gybed the b
Boat and shredded the spinnaker when it hit the water, yeah it's a lite air spinnaker. So, the spreader is in the water, which is a knock down! So I guess I take offense to naming your video EXTREME KNOCKDOWN when it really isn't. That's ok I'll get over it eventually. Dammit ! LOL
marineboy 305 i would like to, in the right location, but this was among islands -- better to keep moving toward the harbor, which was relatively near (the zone was between Lummi Island and Blakely Island for start of Round The County race the next day)
I love these videos of your trip. But, that really wasn't technically a knockdown. The mast must touch the water to be considered a knockdown. Also, you had a double-reefed main but too much genny. You could have had the genny at 100% or less and still be balanced.On my boat I have a dedicated winch just for the roller furler line so you don't have to take the lazy jib sheet off and use that winch for furling genny in.
Kind foolish comment on rule#1 "don't fall off", maybe you had too many beers Peter, Rule#1 is always SAFETY FIRST, don't think your gonna be ok if you fall off, your sounding a little arrogant, best be careful if your sailing with people like this, commenters and viewers.
I noticed the lazy sheet got carried away by the wind. But you are right, you could have eased the mainsheet, or headed up for a minute and roller furled. Trying to roller furl a genny when under load is damned near impossible. But I love these videos! Nice and long! I sail on the East Coast in New England.
That really was a nasty squall.
Your crew stayed calm.
I have sailed the North Atlantic, but only once or twice faced the anger of a shallow water squall.
I am afraid, with a young crew, I would simply have turned the motor on or turned and ran.
To each his own.
Good video.
Thanks.
Thank you very so much for your going out by that kind of weather and make nice little films;-)
Greets from Berlin Jürgen
Awesome sail technique with an experienced crew. Really valuable material to give me some ideas on how to handle a situation like this. The most important thing is everyone on board were as cool as cucumbers. Thanks!
A little surprised you didn't have jacklines & tethers given the forecast. Retrieving MOB would be challenging in these conditions with only one crew left on board. Good video.
Awesome sail! Glad to have shared that time with you
stopper knots?
bear away and ease sheets to control the heel while reefing?
Use the working jib sheet to haul the furling line?
balance sail plan to prevent stalled rudder?
But it looked like great fun! Fair Winds :-)
A bit nautical out there that day -- somewhat typical for Puget Sound. Reminds me of a 'round two islands race in SoCal many, MANY years ago, on my dad's Columbia 50. Trying to get around the west end of Catalina Island in 45-50 kt winds and 15 ft rollers. We were taking knock-downs every other wave while attempting to roller-reef the main. Too much load on the main plus the roller-reef mechanism was seized up due to non-use. We barely got a full turn on the boom and had to give it up. We dropped out after watching several boats around us in similar circumstances start losing masts one after the other. Surfed home on main only for 26 miles; fastest I'd ever seen that old boat move.
we were slightly ahead of you and the j35, on the f27 tri. We took down all sails after taking a large arch to windward. The J35 got caught with a lee shore when the eye of the storm hit. Was a very sad RTC.
thanks for comments. main was not a prob, and even when flogging the pressure on the roller furling line was too much to hand pull genoa in. yes a small winch for this line would be ideal. now I consider putting it on the winch during the unroll, esp if no tacking ahead, so lazy winch is devoted to rolling in genoa under load...even heading up in that much wind you need winch. traveler ease should have been first, but not easy with this particular rig. it was all in control and strong boat: fun
Great video, I'm actually thinking of seeking out conditions like that to shoot video of and show storm tactics. And to respond to all of the "no jacklines" comments: I have sailed solo from S. Florida to Trinidad and back twice with no jacklines. I always observe rule #1, don't fall off!
Great job, Peter. Wish I was there!
Dannie Hill here is the most recent - same boat April 2015 ua-cam.com/video/95IhFLdyuew/v-deo.html
I've been told to never put the jib furling line on a winch because it can cause the forestay to break, leading to a dismasting. I've certainly been tempted to do it many times. It can be near impossible to furl when the wind is really blowing.
tethers for sure if waves were larger or sailing at night. we tucked into Blakely Island for dinner! But point made - retrieval would be hard, staying on the boat is easier.
Good luck with that!
I very much agree with harstine about safety first. I got caught in a Chabasco half way between Cabo and San Diego a few years back - gusts to 65 knots with cresting/breaking 30 to 40 ft rollers - we wouldn't exit the companion way without clipping onto the jack-line first. Retrieving a MOB is is just plain annoying.
right - i haven't and don't want to, especially since unlike Carib this water is crazy cold. will be back out there for two days of racing april 6 and 7 on a J33 in the "Tulip Cup" run by Anacortes Yacht Club. tomorrow!
indeed...sailing out of Bellingham we are at the juncture of Puget Sound and Georgia Strait! best place -- sailing every month of the year...
may not be apparent but this is within the San Juan Islands - not open ocean. But we can see 35-45 knots of wind in the not-Summer!
Would certainly do so if sailing in conditions like this at night. Had harnesses hanging below if the waves picked up. Glad you like the vid.
when we got into the big air we had a double-reefed main already, and once in the high wind (35-50 knots) got into the process of rolling up the genoa. indeed it is all about the sail plan!
Great video, great sailing conditions but NO JACKLINES??
Yeah, I'd have put the boat in irons at 2:30 and reefed in... I crossed Dixon Entrance out of Prince Rupert once in a 24 ft Trimaran...5 foot seas, but swells, relatively flat, 14 knot wind, and I was crying like a baby... well, not really, but nervous anyway... you never know when the wind will come up sudden... but once in the Misty Fyords,,, beautiful, protected waters, best fishing I ever did in my life...
knockdown = spreaders in the water ;-)
You guys . are good sailors but why didn't you ease the mainsail, especially when you were trying to bring the jib all the way in?
looks like fun
To much sail, yeah fun times,ease up on the main tighten up on your working sail, it's just the opposite on this video. Still NO KNOCK DOWN, our last of the season race, gig harbor round Blake island and back, had 30kt. Gusts and over 24 kts. continuous , we really did get knocked down, I mean standing on the toe rail straight up and down, water in the cockpit and below, skipper did not take crews advise to douse the spinnaker and put the cabin boards in :: so, he gybed the b
LUV THIS VIDEO
thanks...and check out my latest for some big wind (25 knots +/-) with the spinnaker up! Search for "Marmetta Cup 2013" Don't Panic!
Boat and shredded the spinnaker when it hit the water, yeah it's a lite air spinnaker. So, the spreader is in the water, which is a knock down! So I guess I take offense to naming your video EXTREME KNOCKDOWN when it really isn't. That's ok I'll get over it eventually. Dammit ! LOL
Heave to not an option? any advice welcome.
marineboy 305 i would like to, in the right location, but this was among islands -- better to keep moving toward the harbor, which was relatively near (the zone was between Lummi Island and Blakely Island for start of Round The County race the next day)
Sorry Peter, the last comment was NOT directed to you, but to sailtheworld79.
I have to agree. while this would have made my bum pucker, its not a knock down
I love these videos of your trip. But, that really wasn't technically a knockdown. The mast must touch the water to be considered a knockdown. Also, you had a double-reefed main but too much genny. You could have had the genny at 100% or less and still be balanced.On my boat I have a dedicated winch just for the roller furler line so you don't have to take the lazy jib sheet off and use that winch for furling genny in.
Kind foolish comment on rule#1 "don't fall off", maybe you had too many beers Peter, Rule#1 is always SAFETY FIRST, don't think your gonna be ok if you fall off, your sounding a little arrogant, best be careful if your sailing with people like this, commenters and viewers.