Buffing Systems
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- Опубліковано 17 лют 2019
- WW'nTips-n-Tricks #083: Buffing Systems
One of the most cost effective means of getting to a high quality finish is the utilization of buffing systems.
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Love your direct no nonsense approach. Thank you.
Enjoyed the video. Great information for everyone starting out with turning. Thanks for your time and effort and keep up the great work!
As a person who is fairly new to wood turning (2 months) I have to say that your videos have been very helpful in the learning process.
same here in france :p
This stuff really takes your work to the next level!
yep
Good stuff. Thank you for sharing. Have a blessed day.
I know that’s something that I need. It’s on my list and getting closer to the top. Your demonstration may have helped to move a little higher on that list. Thanks.
It's that extra "polish" on projects.
Wow! I had never thought to do that although I have buffed car cellulose, brass items and various other metals I never thought to buff wood, but I will give it a go as it looks so lovely. Thanks for sharing!
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Thanks for the tips
Thanks!
Very helpful!!!
Awesome demo thank you!
your videos are always the most helpful BY FAR. thank you so much
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Ha!! First... finally tho great vid, iv been waiting to see this.. what a result... great work from a true teacher of a fine craft.
Good vid. Had the Beall buffing system for years. Like it!!
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These videos are very helpful. Thank you.
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Keep the tips a coming. Thank you!
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Thank you so much for the buffing tip. I am getting ready to make an entry table out of curly maple with the legs out of walnut. I still have to figure out how I'm going to make the legs. But as for the finish, you answered that in this video. My first major build and 1/2 my questiona answered
get busy
Great Advice, Thanks for sharing it, It really is appreciated.
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Glad you did this video, I was wondering if Woodworkers used this process. I grew up in an Auto body shop. My father painted show cars as a trade. I learned how to wet sand and buff out finishes when I was younger, it was tedious work that took lots of patience. Maybe that's why I did not choose to go into that trade personally. Lol. Woodworking has become a hobby of mine. Recently I built a table for my father. I wanted to attempt a finish like the cars he used to paint. After several coats of clear, and wet sanding up to 2000, I used his buffer and polishing compounds to make a finish that was pretty slick. I don't know if the clear top coat was designed to be used this way, I used General Finishes ArmorSeal Clear Gloss, but it turned out pretty amazing. I don't think I will do this on a regular basis with other projects. Although I really like the finish you produced with your set up. And your process was quick and simple. It's good to know others use buffing wheels to finish wood. I've been able to use a lot of my fathers tools from body work in my wood shop. I'm starting to experiment with the paint guns he used to apply finishes to my wood projects with good results. Especially since his tools are free and HVLP systems are very expensive, why not try out what I have at my disposal. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Always Worth The Effort
Ya, car guys take it to the next level.
Good to know, i just finished a box & the lady loved it with clear poly but i know a little better
Convenient design for grinding!
mine just came in the mail today. i purchase everything you recommend.
use it
Beautiful video!
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Thanks so much
Thanks for sharing that
Thank you
loved it thanks!
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I just did the same thing, bought the three wheel system and was already thinking I should have bought the other system. Oh well, you live and learn lol. Will be looking at getting the other system as well.
I've been experimenting with buffing and was just wondering if buffing compounds were used on wood. Thanks, this answers that question.
Yep, but no where near the extent of auto industry. Rottenstone is just a rough buffing compound.
Nice and easy to do 👍
yep
What size are your wheels?
I have a UK system and the shine from it is superb.
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James
In your experience, how does the carnauba wax hold up to use? Especially on bowls? I've found conflicting opinions in various forums about carnauba wax showing finger prints and becoming cloudy shortly after use. Thank you for all the content you've made and shared over the years
I use a different system on my lathe and have very good results i have even built my own using threaded rod and pvc pipe. great video
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thank you
What would you recommend for buffing the interior of a box/bowl/container etc?
Superb!
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Great video thanks
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Thanks for the video! The house I'm buying, has wooden doors, is it ok to buff them same way?
Thanks.
Good length video that shows really great finish! The Amazon link didn’t work.
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Didn’t see the question but figured I’d ask. What set up did you buy/make to incorporate all three pads in one without the quick change MT2?
Great video .. could you explain the way you mounted the three wheels? is that shaft all continoues?
Look up Beall system. It'll be self evident.
Fully cured. Is there a rule of rhumb about the curing time according to different type of finish? Where to find that info. I ruined a shellac finish with this buffing system as it was probablynot cured enough.
Enjoyed the video, thanks. I've been buffing at about 1000 rpm but will try it at a faster speed.
I believe it's the little extra heat it generates that helps.
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Great info man. I always wondered what that setup was called and how it differed from a poly finish.
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I'm sold on buffing where do you get your polishing (buffing wheels) and are they different like the three you have on your spare lathe?
JR Beall is local to me .He has the buff wheel and many other cool things.Went to the shop for the first time,been driving by for 30 years.Cool place.
fun
How long does this type of finish last and how much would you charge someone for maintenance buffing on something they had purchased
Loved the results and enjoyed the education. I'm not a lathe guy (for now) and did a quick search for "buffing systems" only to find pen blanks, angle grinders, and one or two pastes. Is there a better phrase I can be searching for? Or should I just snag some automotive buffing pads and paste?
polishing or beall would work too.
First of all love all the videos and hope to see more of them! I was happy to hear your plan for 2019 in a past video. Question- do you think you could do a video on making the apparatus that holds your buffing wheels? That would be very helpful!! If it is not enough interest/content for a video maybe plans? Thank you for all you do. I really appreciate these videos!!
I suggest going to the Beall website, all that info is likely there.
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it seems you prefer the loose cotton wheels...do you think they do better than stitched cotton wheels? I make knives and currently use stitched wheels. Would I get a better finish with loose wheels??
Do you ever have problems with compound filling into pores? I have that issue when I have used polishing compound one pens made with open pore woods. Walnut has been particularly bad with the dark wood with spots of white compound.
use a compound darker than the wood. That's why I use Tripole first. Otherwise you have to spend a lot more time buffing to clean it off.
Thank you so much. Great video.
Can you please make videos about curving tools?
what do you mean curving tools?
@@wortheffort curving tools use how to properly use them
Thank you. I found you looking for non-electric tool skills. I live a primitive off grid life with very little electric. No power tools for me. I'll check out the book.
buffing can be done with hand tools too. Foundation of "French Polishing".
do you find that it is hard to buff the inside of bowls with this mandrel set up on the lathe? do you think that the 3" Beall balls would be a better first time setup? have you ever tried the Renaissance Wax Polish verses the carnuba?
Mark, I have both the wheels on a mandrel and the buffing balls and you're correct its almost impossible to do the inside of a deeper bowl withe wheels. I get great results using both.
I have a different setup for the inside of bowls but, I don't do the insides often as the stuff I make is more utilitarian. I kind of like the look of polished outside and natural inside.
Now I need a buffer!
Yes you do.
I think I have that exact mini lathe in my shop. What do I need to buy to get A buffing system set up like yours? Can you advise me? Thanks keep up the good work! 👍👍👍😎🇨🇱
It's the Beall polishing system. He has a website and store.
Is it food safety for white diamond compound Incase of wooden kitchen utensils
Polishing wood spoons is false advertising bc it’ll lose luster first use/wash.
Did you make the buff "rod" for the lathe?
Look up the Beall Polishing System and there's instructions.
I know this sounds rudimentary but could you do a video on making the buffing wheel lathe adapter. what size rod.do the nuts have to be nylon locnuts, how you fix it at both ends etc.
It's part of the kit sold from Beall. Cheap enough it's not worth the fuss of designing and making your own. But you can just buy the wheels and put em on a Pawn Shop slow speed grinder too.
If you keep it on the lathe it's worth covering it up to stop the weels covered in shop dust!
Yes mom.
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Thank you, Shawn. I really want to try this. I'm in the UK, I looked up white diamond compound bar and one site said it was for 'Fast cutting on hard metals' and the other said it was ' for softer metals, plastics, ivory/bone' so I'm very confused!! (It doesn't take much). Which of those would you say what you use is, or something different again?!
I think you did answer this in the video, you said it was more of a polishing compound, so that wouldn't be fast cutting hard metals!
the color is just binding agent. likely different by manufacturers.
Can the buffing wheels get into the inside to bowls, or is it only good (and/or safe) to get the outside of the pieces?
They make other types of buffers for inside.
I've a very old shoe finisher thats designed to run off a lineshaft with flat belts....
I'm going to set it up for metal polishing...
use it
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It needs rebuilding but it's all there...
Bearings need replacing (metric)...they're self aligning type...
And the rear dust shield needs the solder joints sweating apart and redoing...
All basic stuff...
It has an inbuilt fan on it for dust ejection (you could rig up a bag filter on it)...
Another great video and perfectly timed - I bought the same buffing system two weeks ago!
Question - can you buff pieces finished with lacquer? Or does buffing work only with oil?
I don't see why you couldn't do it on top of lacquer. It's like polishing the finish on your car. Try in on scrap. I personally don't use lacquer.
Please tell me where you can buy Buffing System beall (which you show in this video)
I need international delivery, and I live in Russia. I'll be happy to see your lessons.
I think figuring out international shipping for a random item anyone can google is a bit much of an ask.
@@wortheffort Please tell me the full model of this system. They sell on Amazon - but it's of poor quality (PSI Woodworking LBUFFSYS 3-Step Lathe Buffing System)
If the turning is not PROPERLY SANDED, you can BUFF till the cows come home, and the turning WILL NOT SHINE! SAFE TURNING ,John
Those ring boxes are off the tool that’s why you see the lines. I didn’t sand them because the oil raises grain too much on tiny stuff when sanded and I don’t want to put more time into them sanding afterwards. Polishing is good enough.
I understand what you are saying. However, no matter what buffing will not make up for a bad sanding. Sanding is the foundation for a shinny finished; buffed or not! SAFE TURNING, John
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so if u put walnut oil on a bowl and then buff, it is still food safe.
Don't see why it wouldn't be.
yu da man!!!
Are u wearing a dust mask? You are also transferring your compound from one wheel to another by not wiping the piece before moving to the next wheel, IMHO. Thx.
Where's all the crap flying around from the wheel?
Good information, but a frustrating video to watch until near the end when you show the results. I almost stopped watching in the beginning when you showed the buffing but not the results.
too many ads . . . i switched off
There's one skippable ad at the beginning. 5 whole seconds until you can click away. Damn, you really think I'm so worthless a content creator I don't even deserve that 1/10 of a penny....