Kind of like the mystery oil leak I had in my truck. Oil started leaking from around the drain plug nut, 2 months and almost 2500 miles after the last oil change. Still can't figure that one out. Regardless, since the 4.3 v6 Vortec's oil pan removal procedure is enough to make a grown man cry, I am still using temporary plugs. Have had zero issues with them.
I have an almost identical Chrysler Grand Voyager SE with 205,XXX miles on it. The van was owned by my grandmother since new, but the cooling fan had allegedly broke. She then just parked it, so it had been sitting since sometime in 2012; she had offered the van to me a few times as she called it an "Sye Sore." A few months ago I decided to see if it would start on the "varnish" it had in its gas tank. I gave it a jump and it amazingly started almost right up. I then finally took he up on her offer and that night I changed the oil, coolant, and found that the cooling fan seemed to have been unplugged. After plugging it back in, the fan started right up and seemed to work fine. I wonder if some crooked mechanics worked on it or something? Since ahe lives in the middle of nowhere they don't salt the roads near her, so the undercarrage is amazing for an old Illinoia car (A hell of a lot better than my Suburban).
LOL...you sure have a sharp wit, Bill :-) The keyring of power...you're the designated second-in-command Keykeeper if something happens to him. That's almost as good as 'a direct offering to the Gods of Carburetion"....
Having a major engine issue is a pain in the butt. My dad's old 1997 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme SL lost all gaskets because the nimrods at Uncle Ed's Oil Shoppe didn't read the fine print on the coolant and radiator cap saying DEX-COOL ONLY and they put in the green coolant. The car lasted 5-7 months and the motor died at 117,500 miles in November of 2005. He sold the car to the local mechanics and they fixed up the car and got sold in 2011 and might be somewhere in the scrapyard by now.
Switching from Dex-Cool to the green stuff didn't kill that engine. Many people, myself included, have done that switch and with good reason. Dex-Cool is infamous for eating gaskets, especially in the first engines to have used it.
@@uxwbill yeah. Well something broke the engine and there was oil in the engine and enough coolant in the tank. Not sure if the 3.1L V6 engines were notorious for blowing engines.
I counted the van, Honda and the trusty red rocket. I finally got to watch the last part of the vid and with that sludge and broken piston, that engine is finished, imo. Wonder if a valve broke the piston or something else?
This happend to my Grand Voyager last year.. But in my case the little ring of metall did not fell into the oil pan. I parked the car in the garage. Next morning i was going to fill the washer tank up. The car was running and of course with the hood open. And suddenly the little ring popped off and almost cracked the windshield. Glad i didn't get it in my forehead. I waited for a week to get a new ring like that. But its not very hard to fix if you got a new ring. ( Sorry for bad english )
Indeed I have! :-)) That is just incredible. Your mother had been complaining about a tick in the top end, right? I don't know if that would have anything to do with how it failed though. Unless it was overheated at any point, I can't think about what could have compromised the integrity of that piston. If you do wind up tearing that thing apart, it might be worth taking a look at the other pistons and seeing if they are showing signs of having the same type of damage.
I hope that there is a part 2!. What a shame, it has almost made 200000. Id love to hear this thing run again and not put it down. That is a freaken lot of sludge for Mobil 1! What did you say about the transmission cooler lines? I'm kind of foggy on what you said there.
to bad. really wonder what went wrong. i have owned two of these vans with 3.3L motors the first one had 236,000 miles on it and the one im driving right now has 160,000 mile with no problems.
@uxwbill I don't know if I ever told you this, but when I am working on cars is when I have the bad habit of stringing curse words together to form complete sentences, so I don't blame him at all.
So what did happen to this little van? Is it going to have a new engine or did you scrap it? Looks like a nice and tidy car and it seems like it might be worth the effort and money :)
This happend to my Grand Voyager last year..But in my case, the ring of metall did not fell into the oil pan. The little ring suddenly came loose when the car stood running in the garage with the hood open..It just popped off and almost cracked the windshield. Glad i didn't get it in my forehead.. I waited a week for a new metall ring. But its not very difficult to fix. :)
@bigtoy63 Well, it seems to be a fair price, is that a brand new engine or a used one... how bad a shape is the engine in and can it be salvaged with new parts, it's a cast iron block so it might if its not to mangeled? Anyways I'll be looking out for the continuin development.. seems in good shape other ways :) By the way, you make really entertaining videos... keep that up will'ya :)
he prised the bearings out sanded them down drilled the holes out again and used locktite to put the bolts back in but he only needed it for the farm really
@uxwbill Just junk the van unless its body and suspension is worth a new or rebuilt engine. You could also just part it out using ebay. Chrysler 3.3 and 3.8L engines usually hold up well like GM's 3.8L.
I commented before on this but now I know why the engine died. It lost all its coolant from that broken hose mentioned in the video, then it over heated and self destructed.
o man that sucks i hope its nothing big coz if its big then i am gusse your gonig to need to put a new engine in it and chrysler makes every things just to tell u ynkno13
The 3.3 is supposed to be the good engine, my family has owned 3 chrysler products with the 3.3 and all have made it past 250K miles, our newest and current 3.3, which is also the newest car in the family fleet by 5 years, is still running after 285K miles, how a 2010 Grand Caravan has held up this long with that many miles is beyond me, though it's a commuter car, doesn't drive more than 100 miles in a day, my old Grand Marquis gets all the miles put on it, but that's because it's only got 218K miles on it
I think unfortunately you guys have about 3 cars that might not make it to the final round of eliminations. The question you might ask yourself is do you spend $500-600 on possibly another year of driving pleasure or do you take $500 or so for each one and let them be someone else's headache? Hmmmmmmmmm.....
This happend to my Grand Voyager last year.. But in my case the little ring of metall did not fell into the oil pan. I parked the car in the garage. Next morning i was going to fill the washer tank up. The car was running and of course with the hood open. And suddenly the little ring popped off and almost cracked the windshield. Glad i didn't get it in my forehead. I waited for a week to get a new ring like that. But its not very hard to fix if you got a new ring. ( Sorry for bad english )
This happend to my Grand Voyager last year.. But in my case the little ring of metall did not fell into the oil pan. I parked the car in the garage. Next morning i was going to fill the washer tank up. The car was running and of course with the hood open. And suddenly the little ring popped off and almost cracked the windshield. Glad i didn't get it in my forehead. I waited for a week to get a new ring like that. But its not very hard to fix if you got a new ring. ( Sorry for bad english )
Kind of like the mystery oil leak I had in my truck. Oil started leaking from around the drain plug nut, 2 months and almost 2500 miles after the last oil change.
Still can't figure that one out.
Regardless, since the 4.3 v6 Vortec's oil pan removal procedure is enough to make a grown man cry, I am still using temporary plugs. Have had zero issues with them.
I have an almost identical Chrysler Grand Voyager SE with 205,XXX miles on it. The van was owned by my grandmother since new, but the cooling fan had allegedly broke. She then just parked it, so it had been sitting since sometime in 2012; she had offered the van to me a few times as she called it an "Sye Sore." A few months ago I decided to see if it would start on the "varnish" it had in its gas tank. I gave it a jump and it amazingly started almost right up. I then finally took he up on her offer and that night I changed the oil, coolant, and found that the cooling fan seemed to have been unplugged. After plugging it back in, the fan started right up and seemed to work fine. I wonder if some crooked mechanics worked on it or something? Since ahe lives in the middle of nowhere they don't salt the roads near her, so the undercarrage is amazing for an old Illinoia car (A hell of a lot better than my Suburban).
I am still shocked that this 3.3 failed in that fashion. As well as you maintain your cars, that sludge is also troubling.
It can't end well when the Keykeeper says "Alright, Turn it"
LOL...you sure have a sharp wit, Bill :-)
The keyring of power...you're the designated second-in-command Keykeeper if something happens to him.
That's almost as good as 'a direct offering to the Gods of Carburetion"....
Having a major engine issue is a pain in the butt. My dad's old 1997 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme SL lost all gaskets because the nimrods at Uncle Ed's Oil Shoppe didn't read the fine print on the coolant and radiator cap saying DEX-COOL ONLY and they put in the green coolant. The car lasted 5-7 months and the motor died at 117,500 miles in November of 2005. He sold the car to the local mechanics and they fixed up the car and got sold in 2011 and might be somewhere in the scrapyard by now.
Switching from Dex-Cool to the green stuff didn't kill that engine. Many people, myself included, have done that switch and with good reason. Dex-Cool is infamous for eating gaskets, especially in the first engines to have used it.
@@uxwbill yeah. Well something broke the engine and there was oil in the engine and enough coolant in the tank. Not sure if the 3.1L V6 engines were notorious for blowing engines.
I counted the van, Honda and the trusty red rocket.
I finally got to watch the last part of the vid and with that sludge and broken piston, that engine is finished, imo.
Wonder if a valve broke the piston or something else?
This happend to my Grand Voyager last year.. But in my case the little ring of metall did not fell into the oil pan. I parked the car in the garage. Next morning i was going to fill the washer tank up. The car was running and of course with the hood open. And suddenly the little ring popped off and almost cracked the windshield. Glad i didn't get it in my forehead. I waited for a week to get a new ring like that. But its not very hard to fix if you got a new ring. ( Sorry for bad english )
Quite interesting.
@uxwbill ohhh not good :( evr get it repaired?
Indeed I have! :-)) That is just incredible. Your mother had been complaining about a tick in the top end, right? I don't know if that would have anything to do with how it failed though.
Unless it was overheated at any point, I can't think about what could have compromised the integrity of that piston. If you do wind up tearing that thing apart, it might be worth taking a look at the other pistons and seeing if they are showing signs of having the same type of damage.
I hope that there is a part 2!. What a shame, it has almost made 200000. Id love to hear this thing run again and not put it down. That is a freaken lot of sludge for Mobil 1! What did you say about the transmission cooler lines? I'm kind of
foggy on what you said there.
Wow. That sucks.
At least it didn't fall out of park and roll at a high velocity into the local 500 year old tree like my truck did.
damn that a bummer so is it a pistion skirt or a bearing? could not tell good luck man
strange how it did that
to bad. really wonder what went wrong. i have owned two of these vans with 3.3L motors the first one had 236,000 miles on it and the one im driving right now has 160,000 mile with no problems.
@uxwbill I don't know if I ever told you this, but when I am working on cars is when I have the bad habit of stringing curse words together to form complete sentences, so I don't blame him at all.
Did you use synthetic oil? When was the last time it was changed?
Has the engine been shut off when it hasn't been fully warmed up many times?
no, they made the grand voyager and the town and country
What cause the noise and how did you fix it ?
So what did happen to this little van? Is it going to have a new engine or did you scrap it? Looks like a nice and tidy car and it seems like it might be worth the effort and money :)
These motors are usually very durably. Looks like a lack of oil changes.
This happend to my Grand Voyager last year..But in my case, the ring of metall did not fell into the oil pan. The little ring suddenly came loose when the car stood running in the garage with the hood open..It just popped off and almost cracked the windshield. Glad i didn't get it in my forehead.. I waited a week for a new metall ring. But its not very difficult to fix. :)
Joking? (13 years late)
@bigtoy63 Well, it seems to be a fair price, is that a brand new engine or a used one... how bad a shape is the engine in and can it be salvaged with new parts, it's a cast iron block so it might if its not to mangeled? Anyways I'll be looking out for the continuin development.. seems in good shape other ways :) By the way, you make really entertaining videos... keep that up will'ya :)
he prised the bearings out sanded them down drilled the holes out again and used locktite to put the bolts back in but he only needed it for the farm really
"Turn it."
*camera shuts down*
Videos don't always work out as planned, especially when not scripted.
yes you are completely right that Makes absolutely no sense ?????????????????????
@uxwbill Just junk the van unless its body and suspension is worth a new or rebuilt engine. You could also just part it out using ebay. Chrysler 3.3 and 3.8L engines usually hold up well like GM's 3.8L.
your oilpan appear to be full of "asphalt" what type of oil do you use ???????. I planning to use something else. sincerely good luck! (-:
Do you still have this van?
did u evr find out wat was wrong w/ this van?
You could have stopped at the split hose, at that point it was done for. Oh, and the oil was not changed nearly often enough.
No and no.
I commented before on this but now I know why the engine died. It lost all its coolant from that broken hose mentioned in the video, then it over heated and self destructed.
Seems very strange how a piston could just break like that.
wut ever happened to it
Im sorry for all the comments.. My computer is fucked:(
i know how u feel still got the dell if u want it its perfect nothing wrong with it crt monitor come with it aint puttin it on craigslist tho
That is what you call a faceplam moment.
I think it has a blown engine.
2009(Nov 22, 2009)-2010.
two cars with #2 pistons damaged............
shit, looks like you have a lot more to worry about then just a timing chain jumping the cog You probably need a valve job also.
i think u could use better lighting just saying tho
o man that sucks i hope its nothing big coz if its big then i am gusse your gonig to need to put a new engine in it and chrysler makes every things just to tell u ynkno13
Geez you really seem to like using the words. Keykeeper.
The 3.3 is supposed to be the good engine, my family has owned 3 chrysler products with the 3.3 and all have made it past 250K miles, our newest and current 3.3, which is also the newest car in the family fleet by 5 years, is still running after 285K miles, how a 2010 Grand Caravan has held up this long with that many miles is beyond me, though it's a commuter car, doesn't drive more than 100 miles in a day, my old Grand Marquis gets all the miles put on it, but that's because it's only got 218K miles on it
if im not mistaken those cars saved chrysler from bankruptcy.
I think unfortunately you guys have about 3 cars that might not make it to the final round of eliminations.
The question you might ask yourself is do you spend $500-600 on possibly another year of driving pleasure or do you take $500 or so for each one and let them be someone else's headache?
Hmmmmmmmmm.....
No maintance it's the reason guys!
i turned it off when i heard reliant lol. i hate k cars.Chrysler's worst design ever. u guys are grt though.peace from Oklahoma city
wome, they never change the oil. just turn the key and go
isn't that a GM engine? their 3.8's are the best
Is it just me or does the "Key Keeper" sound like he is missing a few chromosomes in this video?
Typical lack of maintenance. CHANGE YOU OIL PEOPLE
Unfortunately, it was not lack of maintenance.
This happend to my Grand Voyager last year.. But in my case the little ring of metall did not fell into the oil pan. I parked the car in the garage. Next morning i was going to fill the washer tank up. The car was running and of course with the hood open. And suddenly the little ring popped off and almost cracked the windshield. Glad i didn't get it in my forehead. I waited for a week to get a new ring like that. But its not very hard to fix if you got a new ring. ( Sorry for bad english )
This happend to my Grand Voyager last year.. But in my case the little ring of metall did not fell into the oil pan. I parked the car in the garage. Next morning i was going to fill the washer tank up. The car was running and of course with the hood open. And suddenly the little ring popped off and almost cracked the windshield. Glad i didn't get it in my forehead. I waited for a week to get a new ring like that. But its not very hard to fix if you got a new ring. ( Sorry for bad english )