Vatsim UK - VFR departure
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- This long video is intended for new VFR pilots on Vatsim UK. It's a discussion of the ATC interactions I experience departing Edinburgh in the UK.
In the real world ATC calls are often more conversational. I'm not a real pilot. I'm not qualified to teach any flying or ATC material. I'm not endorsed by Vatsim. These videos are just a commentary on some of the 200 virtual VFR hours I have with Vatsim UK trying to research and figure out what to say. I use CAP413 and the Skyway Code for guidance to reinforce my experience. This is an example of my "routine". It seems to work and controllers seem happy with it.
Thank you Stephen for agreeing to take part in the recording.
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Just made my first departure in VATSIM, i flew VFR from EGPH to the small field in Fife (EGPJ) just outside of the controlled airspace. Very useful guide, I flew forth road bridge and Kelty VRP. Tomorrow I'll fly the arrival back in from Fife :) There are lots of other guide videos but I love the way you stop yours, explain "what just happened" as a lot of them skip over some additional details and you're left wondering what all the extra unexplained bits were. I love the immersion VATSIM brings, I even had to line up and wait for Wake Turbulence Separation :) BTW the ORBX EGPH add on is great and helps with the taxi signs as they're correctly labelled :) Little Nav Map now also shows the disused runway!
Well done. Good luck with the return trip! Nice part of the world. Plus EGPH has some great controllers.
@@flightsimflyeruk Thanks, BTW, it can be confusing when tower is covering ground, ground often don't ask for intentions, but when tower is covering, they ask quite early on so I get confused when i'm supposed to state that I have information and state intentions. Also i'm not sure why when flying from airports in the south of the UK they give the barometer setting in hPa and not QNH
@@uhfrc Well although the general rule is to keep your opening request short, at a quiet aerodrome you could indicate your information and intentions at the first call after the radio check (if you are making that call). For example "GXXXX, C172, north apron, information X, QNH1013, request engine start for VFR departure to ...." That way tower has a good idea of what you want. Alternatively, wait until they ask, then you know they are ready to receive the details. You'll find it varies a lot and I don't think there is a right or wrong. If you haven't been asked before, just give your full details when requesting taxi.
Not sure what you mean by the north/south division but if the QNH is below 1000 they will add hPa after, e.g. "QNH1013" or "QNH998 hPa".
@@flightsimflyeruk Sorry i was mistaken, I just remember all the southern controllers saying things like "fruit pastilles", maybe it was a forum joke.
I'm a total beginner with flight sim and your videos help so much thank you 🙏
Hiya it's Joe from CIX VFR Club! Really good videos FSF, really well presented!
Thanks Joe.
Nice and utterly correct read-back of departure with full callsign.
Great video. Good to see from the other side and sim looking great 👍
I must have watched this video about 10 times now Dave ;) It really is such a big help. As you said below, there really is no right or wrong way to do this- I have been finding it to be more of a discussion and I go with the flow in regards to the first call. But, as they say, practice makes perfect and between IVAO and VATSIM I am getting plenty of experience dealing with different controllers. All the best and thanks a lot for this series of videos... Jim CIXVFR
Thanks. I'm glad you find them useful. What an absorbing hobby this can be.
Very well made video, Thank you!
absolutely brilliant video. love how you place the subtitles up and explain what everything means so calmly and best video on the topic on youtube! congrats!
Thank you!
Excellent video. Clear, concise and just what I was looking for. I shall be heading for EGPH very soon!
Great! Thanks for your comments.
Thank you for making this video.
@@PervonHarke A pleasure. Thank you.
I enjoyed this video, I might give this area a fly as my initial experience with VAT sim was stressful as hell with pilots and ATC seemingly in some sort of race to break world records for who can speak fastest. Which makes a difficult learning experience incredibly difficult, so much so I haven't flown VatSim (UK flight) since.
Thanks and good luck. I recommend flying in the Channel Islands or Edinburgh as good places to get started (and obviously pick a time when it isn't very busy - like during a Vatsim event, for example).
Love your vids, such a good pace. Not brave enough to leave the circuit yet in vatsim but soon!!
Thanks Steve.
Do it! Don't delay. The more you think about it the more stressful it gets. It's only a simulation....
This is really useful thank you so much
Thank you
Truly excellent video! Really appreciate the effort :)
Thanks! I'm glad you found it useful.
Another great video thanks 👍
Very precise
Thank you
G-HERC... I did my real world instrument rating in that plane 😂
Ha ha! Was that at Cambridge?
@@flightsimflyeruk Yes - done all my training there so far 🙂
@@justbob588 I hope I haven't damaged anything during one of my dodgy landings.
I’ve flown the real G-HERC at Cambridge aero club!
Brilliant! How does she handle?
@@flightsimflyeruk a lot easier in real life actually. MSFS has always been difficult. Especially the trim and rudder.
@@OfficialSheffieldCouncil Interesting. Agreed, not being able to feel the force on the controls makes trimming much less intuitive in the sim. Also, sometimes I find the trim controls are too coarse and I end up fiddling with the config files to reduce it a bit.
you deserve so much more likes m8 thank you for the amazing help :D
and where did you get the VRPS from in littlenavmaps?
Thank you for your kind words.
You can manually add VRPs by right-clicking on the map and adding a userpoint then label it as you wish. There are links to VRP databases I have seen in discussion forums which can be imported into LNM but of course you run the risk that they might be out of date.
@@flightsimflyeruk ok thank you m8 :D
HI, I really like your VFR Flight Log. I've wasted too much time looking for a similar one online and was wondering if you have yours available to download anywhere.
Thanks, keep up the good work.
Thank you. Kind words.
Try this link :
drive.google.com/file/d/1A5GlGtTME-JAtvoXk4ndZLlLa4ungtco/view?usp=sharing
@@flightsimflyeruk Awesome! Thank you
Great video I'm new to vatsim and very much interested in using it, any chance you could share your document. Thanks again
Thanks. Try this link :
drive.google.com/file/d/1A5GlGtTME-JAtvoXk4ndZLlLa4ungtco/view?usp=sharing
btw, how do you move your head in such a fluid motion? are you using a VR headset?
I use TrackIR. I was using the hat clip for this video which was fine but reflection from my glasses became a problem. I have recently upgraded to a DelanClip which works perfectly with the TrackIR camera.
@@flightsimflyeruk wow, thank you so much for the tip. I had no idea you can use track IR camera. will definitely follow your advice. Im getting ready for my PPL final exam and this is a great resource. thnx a million!
Good luck with your PPL! Let us know how you get on and do feed back any real world hints and tips.
@@flightsimflyeruk if I understand correctly... I need a TrackIR5 camera (about 150usd) and basic DelanClip Starter (only 25GBP) ?
Thats what I have, just because there were no TrIR pro clips available but I already had the TrIR camera.
The delanclip will also work with a cheaper camera but I can't comment on how well the software works with MSFS.
I find the TrIR5 software to be excellent, but it is more expensive.
What app did you use for charts?
Have a look at my VFR planning video and that will show you the two sources I recommend.
Thanks
Is this game or real?
It's simulated. Flight simulation with real people trained to simulate ATC.
Do you use trackIR?
Yes I do.
@@flightsimflyeruk Which exact model? Thanks these videos are brilliant
I have a Trackir camera and used to use a trackir hat clip but when I started using glasses the reflection of them interfered. I couldn't get a trackir Pro clip so I got a Delan Clip which works fine with the camera.