Why i like you 1. You Sound so motivated 2. Your put effort 3. Its easy to understand what your saying 4. We Learn from you 5. You make alot of things simple to understand
Interesting the video alludes to China and USA being ideal places for a civilisation. Unsurprisingly these two happen to be the top two superpowers today.
Llamas were domesticated from undulates in south america, as were alpacas. Both of their ancestors, as well as the ancestral species to horses, evolved in the americas
I think if there was a similar culture to that of the East then the Native Americans would’ve been on par if not more advanced than the East if given time. Unfortunately Disease would’ve still been an issue but now on both sides
Just a note here: even though rice has many advantages, it DOES take up a HUGE amount of labour to grow. In fact, it is perhaps the most labour-intensive grain out there, which has had many important effects from making social rules stricter to hindering industrialisation.
@@radityapoerwanto7018 It does in a medieval context, but not in a modern one. It allows you to stratify your society effectively but also causes stagnation when others might modernize, as seen in china and many parts of southeast asia.
Hey this reminds me of a book called the accidental superpower.. The only mistake I noticed is that rice is extremely labor intensive. You need to flood and drain the fields, hand plant and hand pick the rice. You can't just have a tractor do it all like wheat and corn
Hi, I own Llamas, and you can definitely count them as both work and companion animals. Llamas are pack animals and can be used to transport goods, as well as act emotionally intelligent. When we lost one of our llamas a few years ago, we buried her out in our pasture which is far enough away and has many breaks in sight for the mother to have no idea where her daughter went. After we brought them out to graze in the pasture and let them graze for the day, the mother was found laying on top of her daughters grave when we went to bring them back to the barn. You could claim she was sunning herself on the dirt or something else, but the part that compels me is the fact that we bury our animals on the male side of the pasture, not the female side. We had left the gate open due to keeping the males back at the barn. We do this occasionally to let the grass grow back on the other side, but sometimes we leave the divider gate open between the sides. None of our llamas ever liked to go onto the opposite genders side for pretty much any reason. Don't ask me why, they just never did. So the fact that she was on the males side and directly on top of her daughters grave led me to truly believe they are emotionally intelligent creatures and can form bonds with their human caretakers.
man they drank milk from their mother just like you and I... even rats, most mammals are freaking emotionally inteligent. what they lack in maths, atomic physics and accounting, they have in feels.
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I would add a fifth element for a great civilization: A metal that can be forged easily enough but that is strong enough to make weapons. Think about it: In ancient America they could work with silver and gold but they never found their way to work with iron. Centuries later, their weapons were still made of wood and rock
Mesoamerica and South America actually did have bronze, and used bronze axes as weapons, regularly. I think the real issue was that obsidian blades were just too good to give up, so research into bettering their metallurgy never got too far. They ended up falling down a technological dead end, and without outside context, they couldn't see that. Arguably, something similar happened in the Old World with bronze and iron. Iron was abundant, but iron blades were trash compared to bronze (at least so the time), so it didn't make sense to replace it-until the bronze age collapse, and it suddenly became a whole lot harder to sustain the trading networks that allowed for bronze. Thus, iron was only adopted because there was no other choice. In the Americas, obsidian was rather abundant, and took very little effort to create a weapon, so bronze was only used for axes and other tools that were expected to take quite a beating, and the sharpness of the edge didn't matter as much. Granted, this is all oversimplification, mixed in with my own speculations.
This simplifies a lot of reasons why "civilization" formed where they formed. Anthropologists and archaeologists will tell you various cultures are more complex than they look. Especially in history.
Like what I'm saying on specific country in asia that their culture and society is unsophisticated and uncivilized enough because they don't have a tradition of writing history like China
why doesnt South Asia (India & surounding areas) count as a strong contender? 1.it has fertile land protected by the Indian Ocean to the south, the Himalayan Mountains to the north, jungles to the east, and desert mountians to the west 2. it has lots of rivers. Indus, Ganges, and Brahaputra being the major ones 3. it has rice, millet, and other grains for food crops 4. it has animals such as the Zebu, a domesticated cow species native to the area
because india in particular is not very well protected, if the himalayas extended to the whole northern frontier they would, but they hav ea big gap in the east around the area of pakistan trough where each adn every invasor has come, and has wrekcked their shit most of the time.
@@cseijifja that area is actually to the west of India and is a mountainous desert. The history of invaders coming from that direction doesnt mean it isnt protective geography, just that it's the weakest. If we're gonna use that argument, then china's northern corridor (also a desert) wouldn't count as protective geography because invaders like the mongols and manchu have historically entered from there and fromed their own governments like the Yuan and Qing
Nope, the western part of India is much easier to invade then, say, any side of china (the north is too cold, the east has a desert and many mountains, the south has thick, impenetrable jungles, and the west has the oceans to protect them
@KJJ I have other locations I would probably set up civilization, like North America, or France and Iberia, but I prefer what I mentioned before, Anatolia is easily defendable, same with Italy, with the Alps, I know I would not stay at that height, and may lose a province or 2 but they would keep their heartland of Anatolia and the Balkans!
Argentina is a solid start too. You get corn and potatoes, Llamas and a river system. With mountains to your west, ocean to the east and a rain forest to your north.
Indigenous complex civilizations did develop in the Americas, with things like cities and specialization of labor. I can think of 5 major groups off the top of my head. Also, llamas and alpacas are indigenous to South America. You also forgot to mention that in North America turkeys were domesticated.
Rice is extremely labor intensive, and takes about as much water to grow as wheat and other common grains, and in a medieval context would have taken far more. Asia's higher population in pre modern times had more to do with a combination of climate, water abundance, and rich and fertile soils due to the many flood plains and volcano ash rich soils in southeast asia.
8:04 this is actually incorrect, Brazil DID in fact have pre-Colombian societies and civilizations that were agricultural and populated. There were “mound” fortified settlements which can be seen across Brazil today. These varied in shapes, and today can still be recognized as either circle mounds or rectangle mounds. There were large road networks between these mound villages which were, in one of the reports by Antonio Pires de Campos, home to a vast population inhabiting the region, with villages connected by straight, wide roads that were constantly kept clean. However I do agree that there would be a lack of pack animals, but the evidence for large social structures and settlement planning does show that Brazil has the potential for starting civilization. (Though this occurred far after the earliest civilizations formed)
If I remember correctly, recent archeological evidence suggests that the Amazon civilizations did use the ecosystem to do their labor for them - they just didn't do it with pack animals. Instead, they domesticated many of the naturally-occurring plants of the Amazon to be highly useful for humans - and then instead of farming, they allowed the rainforest to take over. It's a genius strategy, really. Why waste all that human labor farming brazilnuts, when you can just count on the Amazon to grow a fuckton of them automatically? Then you can just selectively breed them, so the naturally-occurring rainforest ecosystem becomes hospitable to human life! I'm not sure I've seen this decentralized domestication strategy anywhere else, but it seems incredible, and I hope modern Western civilization can learn from it.
I’d probably wanna start off around the Dniester river. It would have pretty good farmland, easy access the the Black and Baltic Sea for trade and freshwater, and European bison and Eurasian horses would be great for domestication.
The sad thing is that at one point only 10,000 years ago South America including Brazil had so much biodiversity that could have been domesticated such as Ground Sloths, Cuvieroniuses, Notiomastodons, Glyptodons, Toxodons, Macrauchenia, and Hippidions! The potential for civilization was massive, but it was all wasted when the natives unfortunately killed them all off, dooming them to be technologically behind the rest of the world, giving Europeans the perfect advantage that they needed to conquer the entirety of North and South America!
it seems they died off not only because of this, but because of the fact their size itself hindered them from finding enought food reousrces to sustain themselves. South america did have a civilization, which this channel has forgotten about, Peru contains a craddle of civilization in norte chico, wich stands with mesopotamia, china, the indus valley, and the nile river delta. South american cultivated both corn and potatoes, and domesticied lamas and guinea pigs as both food and transport animals, unfortunately, there were no ox nor burden beasts in south america , wich stiffled growth. The europeans conquered north and south american because EVERYONE died of sicknesses, not other particular reason.
Europeans conquered Central and South America basically out of historical luck - the Incan Empire had just come out of an intensely brutal civil war when the Spanish arrived. Even then, there were multiple very close battles involved where the Inca used tight-quarters combat with spears against cavalry. As for the Aztecs, they were a rapidly-expanding militaristic civilization on the brink of collapse from all their expansion, with many enemies that the Spanish forces could (and did!) play against the Aztecs.
Just what I was looking for, good video Btw, I live in Chile, how good is it for to build a civilization? 1. We are surrounded by the Pacific ocean, the Andes Mountains and the most arid desert on the planet: 2. We have plenty of rivers and a lakes 3. We don't have jungles or many dangerous creatures 4. We can grow corn and potatoes 5. We have copper and saltpeter in the north (saltpeter can be used as fertilizer and for nitric acid) 6. We have llamas on the north (although it might be a stretch) The only downsides are that it can be a bit small and we don't have many "useful" animals
Aside from the desert, it’s a pretty solid place to start. Why do you think the Incas built their empire in the Andes? xD not to mention, those massive deserts have raw lithium in them, worth tons of $
I'd say it's because the land is thin and not wide and therefore the river can't get big enough before it met the sea, thought that just one of the many reasons
The issue with the desert is that it doesn't protect from anything, it just blocks you off from the sea, which isn't even that great as the Pacific is far too big to matter beyond coastal transport, which again won't be useful if it's mostly desert. Lamas are ok-tier, basically sheep, not very good for land work and aside from children it's a bad idea to ride one. The main issue with the Andes is obviously it's length and it being mountains making it hard to control, but i do wonder how much the Inca Empire could have expended before a more conventional collapse (had the americas stayed in isolation), maybe it could've had the same effect as others in spreading a shared culture/administrative system between heir states, leading to an iron age &co. The Incas were incredible for a bronze-tech civilisation the terrain mostly prevented authoritarian power from taking over, which is good for progress/ideas but bad for assimilation/centralisation, yet they managed to perform the later quite well. The number one problem by far is still the same however, the moment some old-world explorers disembark on the continent, 90+% of your population is fucked and there's nothing you can do about it. Only way for the civilisation to survive is for the gap between first explorers and military expedition is large enough for it to at least stabilise and have the population recover as much as possible from the apocalypse.
Mayans and amazonians managed to build civilizations in the rainforest. Amazonians collapsed for unknown reasons but left extensive channels and agricultural patforms
If you want your village to last you would need both men and woman so new people can be born so your village does not run out of people and become empty
Great video, but I think France and the UK are also great locations as if your starting from scrach you won't be able to take advantage of those teritories and defences as it so vast where as France and the UK have exelent medium scale nations (Just move France's border the the Rine and your good)
I think he means Civilizations, not local cultrues... Civilization means people speaking eatting wearing using writing in a totally different ways France and the UK are just like 2 provinces of Roma Civilization
Are you sure corn is the best in terms of ease of growing and nutrition? Potatoes are easier to grow in poor soil, contain all 9 amino acids, and are very calorie dense. I think the real reason corn is so popular is a mix of excessive American corn subsidies and the fact that grains like corn, wheat, and rice with fairly consistent sized grains is just easier to tax.
you are forgetting about norte chico in south america, and the olmecs, wich ar craddles of cvilizations too, the mexicans made do withotu beasts of burdens, and the native peruvians made do with llamas, Cuys, and their prefred crops.
Making do without beasts of burden led to slavery and tribute and every single neighbor hating them with a passion. Which led to pretty much everyone joining the Spanish and kicking the Aztecs even after they were down.
If I was to pick, I would choose islands like Ireland, UK and I suppose Japan as they have good farmland inland, plenty of rivers and defended by the sea.
What about Europe? Europe also has huge amounts of power, it even has the capital of one of the other superpowers, Moscow, Russia. There's the Ural and Caucasus Mountains, the entire Mediterranean and Black seas, rivers, an ocean to the west, and mountains in the south.
3:08 idk why u put that image when saying “no sane army would travel across the ocean just to attack you” the Argentinians attacked the British land of the Falkland Islands, which was NEVER owned by the Argentinians, so it wasn’t the British attacking, it was defence since Argentina unlawfully invaded a British territory.
Australia's best bet for pack animals probably would've been the Diprotodontids, if they hadn't eaten them all. As for hunting animals though, they kinda got the short end of the stick. The Thylacine and Thylacoleo may have been fearsome, but like all Marsupials, they'd have been dumb af
Location: California Defensible Flatland: Central Valley River: Sacramento/San-Joaquin Rivers Grain: Corn (we'll send an expedition down south to nick some seeds) Animals to breed to kill: Turkey Animals to help us: N/A (maybe we can convince dudes to not kill off the last of the "Western horse" species *if there are still any individuals left* and instead domesticate them *BIG IF*) Animals with brains: *possibly* some dogs we brought over from when we crossed the land bridge into America *ANOTHER BIG IF* Iron: Yes it exists in California Main technological focus: boats ... The lack of animals is bad, but the Asians did it, and they only had water buffalo. We definitely won't be a global superpower, unlike the dudes in Asia or the dudes on the other side of the Rockies, but we will be a pretty large regional empire along the Pacific coast, and we are very isolated and very far away from everyone else, so contacting other civilizations will be VERY hard
potatoes are better crops to grow than rice just because it contains everything that a human needs to survive in one neat little package. 5:59 You also said that potatoes were grains which i was quite confused about, because potatoes aren't grains mah dude. They are tubers, they grow inside the ground and stay there till harvest. When you mentioned that asian countries have a big population because of rice, i would like to say that that isnt neceserally because of rice only, these countries have a better environment to grow foods, not just rice so many foods and plants to grow from all that sunshine and rain. Meanwhile in northern europe especially you have cold winters and not allot of sunshine to grow allot of foods. If you were lactose intolerant back then in Europe you would starve just because the potato wasnt there yet. People in asia didnt have to drink milk to survive, thats why most people in asia are lactose intolerant. Asia has a better environment to grow food meanwhile Europe is in a better spot to produce more products because europe is in the line of moderate weather where people can work harder without focusing on the heat or cold. Rice isnt a superior crop, it has just been longer there then the potato has in Europe. The potato comes from America as you showed in the video, Rice you need to eat with other foods to have a stable diet, potatoes could sustain poor europeans who couldnt afford anything else. Rice has been there for soooooo many more centuries than the potato for europe thats the reason why asian countries have bigger populations. thanks for reading!
I'd say a modern say modern-day France, would be pretty good, maybe extend the northeastern border all the way to the Rhine, should be pretty defensible, temperature is livable, lots of rivers, and huge plus, horses and cattle are plentiful
I’d argue that the Netherlands with a small bit of belgium and Germany also qualifies. A flat river delta with a sea to the west, mountains to the south and cold tundras in the north.
The north european plain isnt half bad, but the Netherlands specifically aint all that great. Theres a reason dutch costal defense infrastructure is one of the seven wonders of zhe world
Uruguay, flat plains with a temperate temperature, rivers and the massive ocean to the east, amazon jungle to the north, desert and mountains to the west
*8:47* All of civilization nearly died because some colonizer nearly ate something in the Americas, brought back to Europe, and killed 2/3 of Europe’s entire population.
Why i like you
1. You Sound so motivated
2. Your put effort
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4. We Learn from you
5. You make alot of things simple to understand
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“Uhh only if there was a way to outsource labor”
Everyone: wow… slavery
Him: no, domestication!!
tbf for thousands of years that's how it was done.
Hmm.... colonies-
Only small minds thought slavery. The rest of us knew he meant domesticated animals. (But when you think about it it's still slavery.)
I'm surprised people havn't yelled animal abuse yet.
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Interesting the video alludes to China and USA being ideal places for a civilisation. Unsurprisingly these two happen to be the top two superpowers today.
Altough USA benefits alot from the Europeans and the stuff they brought
@@no8592 like china ?
@@sotch2271 lol exactly, china's ripped everything off of us 🇺🇸
@@scavulous6336 except they are 3000 years older than us.
@@gaja9092 no, modern China was crested by commies in the 40's to 50'
Llamas were domesticated from undulates in south america, as were alpacas. Both of their ancestors, as well as the ancestral species to horses, evolved in the americas
@Atheist Biologist yeah sorry I mean Ungulates which are hoofed mammals such as cows, pigs, deer, horses, etc.
@Atheist Biologist I do really want to see a llama attempt to inchworm it's way up the andes mountains now tho xD
@@Noam-Bahar yes indeedily, both dromedaries and bactrian camels, and llamas are in the Tylopoda suborder :)
I think if there was a similar culture to that of the East then the Native Americans would’ve been on par if not more advanced than the East if given time. Unfortunately Disease would’ve still been an issue but now on both sides
@@Virtrialnative brazillians also domesticated wild ducks (chairina moschata), for feathers and meat
Just a note here: even though rice has many advantages, it DOES take up a HUGE amount of labour to grow. In fact, it is perhaps the most labour-intensive grain out there, which has had many important effects from making social rules stricter to hindering industrialisation.
Yeah, but once you got past that bottleneck, the advantage outweighs the cons.
@@radityapoerwanto7018 It does in a medieval context, but not in a modern one. It allows you to stratify your society effectively but also causes stagnation when others might modernize, as seen in china and many parts of southeast asia.
LOVE THE ENTHUSIASM IN THE VOICEOVER you killed this
Hey this reminds me of a book called the accidental superpower.. The only mistake I noticed is that rice is extremely labor intensive. You need to flood and drain the fields, hand plant and hand pick the rice. You can't just have a tractor do it all like wheat and corn
Hi, I own Llamas, and you can definitely count them as both work and companion animals. Llamas are pack animals and can be used to transport goods, as well as act emotionally intelligent. When we lost one of our llamas a few years ago, we buried her out in our pasture which is far enough away and has many breaks in sight for the mother to have no idea where her daughter went. After we brought them out to graze in the pasture and let them graze for the day, the mother was found laying on top of her daughters grave when we went to bring them back to the barn. You could claim she was sunning herself on the dirt or something else, but the part that compels me is the fact that we bury our animals on the male side of the pasture, not the female side. We had left the gate open due to keeping the males back at the barn. We do this occasionally to let the grass grow back on the other side, but sometimes we leave the divider gate open between the sides. None of our llamas ever liked to go onto the opposite genders side for pretty much any reason. Don't ask me why, they just never did. So the fact that she was on the males side and directly on top of her daughters grave led me to truly believe they are emotionally intelligent creatures and can form bonds with their human caretakers.
That was a nice story, thank you
Do Llamas have good hooves for climbing?
man they drank milk from their mother just like you and I... even rats, most mammals are freaking emotionally inteligent. what they lack in maths, atomic physics and accounting, they have in feels.
Poor Llama
That’s so sweet 😭😭 omg I’m sorry you lost one of your llamas they’re one of my favorite animals
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There's an old youtuber named Sam O'nella who had audio very similar to yours. He made it work.
I would add a fifth element for a great civilization: A metal that can be forged easily enough but that is strong enough to make weapons. Think about it: In ancient America they could work with silver and gold but they never found their way to work with iron. Centuries later, their weapons were still made of wood and rock
The Americas has loads of iron deposits. Bronze may have been a bit more difficult due to the comparative rarity of tin.
@@ShnoogleMan actually incas and aztecs used copper in their jewelry and ornaments. Yet no precolombian people could learn to use iron
@@cesar.m.ibarra you also need tin for bronze, not just copper.
@@ShnoogleMan i agree. Thats why I said copper. As a whole, metallurgy was pretty underdeveloped in America compared to eurasiatic civilizations
Mesoamerica and South America actually did have bronze, and used bronze axes as weapons, regularly. I think the real issue was that obsidian blades were just too good to give up, so research into bettering their metallurgy never got too far. They ended up falling down a technological dead end, and without outside context, they couldn't see that.
Arguably, something similar happened in the Old World with bronze and iron. Iron was abundant, but iron blades were trash compared to bronze (at least so the time), so it didn't make sense to replace it-until the bronze age collapse, and it suddenly became a whole lot harder to sustain the trading networks that allowed for bronze. Thus, iron was only adopted because there was no other choice.
In the Americas, obsidian was rather abundant, and took very little effort to create a weapon, so bronze was only used for axes and other tools that were expected to take quite a beating, and the sharpness of the edge didn't matter as much.
Granted, this is all oversimplification, mixed in with my own speculations.
This simplifies a lot of reasons why "civilization" formed where they formed. Anthropologists and archaeologists will tell you various cultures are more complex than they look. Especially in history.
Like what I'm saying on specific country in asia that their culture and society is unsophisticated and uncivilized enough because they don't have a tradition of writing history like China
@@mechanikalbull5626 what?? What country is that??
No shit its more complex in real life
of course... can't cover dozens of hours of nuance in a video of this length, what did you expect
like archaeologists could even make a video like this. Weak.
why doesnt South Asia (India & surounding areas) count as a strong contender?
1.it has fertile land protected by the Indian Ocean to the south, the Himalayan Mountains to the north, jungles to the east, and desert mountians to the west
2. it has lots of rivers. Indus, Ganges, and Brahaputra being the major ones
3. it has rice, millet, and other grains for food crops
4. it has animals such as the Zebu, a domesticated cow species native to the area
because india in particular is not very well protected, if the himalayas extended to the whole northern frontier they would, but they hav ea big gap in the east around the area of pakistan trough where each adn every invasor has come, and has wrekcked their shit most of the time.
@@cseijifja that area is actually to the west of India and is a mountainous desert. The history of invaders coming from that direction doesnt mean it isnt protective geography, just that it's the weakest. If we're gonna use that argument, then china's northern corridor (also a desert) wouldn't count as protective geography because invaders like the mongols and manchu have historically entered from there and fromed their own governments like the Yuan and Qing
Nope, the western part of India is much easier to invade then, say, any side of china (the north is too cold, the east has a desert and many mountains, the south has thick, impenetrable jungles, and the west has the oceans to protect them
Vegetarianism. It made them weak.
@@lesussie2237 these aren't historic tho
India is currently losing territory to China because of their geography
1:51 The Polynesians are just going to ignore that they heard that.
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I would choose Anatolia, The Levant, Greece, Egypt, Iraq, and Hungary as lands to conquer to start off with
Ottoman Empire 2: Electric Boogaloo
@@prdarlin It would of course have it’s own culture and history, different from the Ottomans.
@KJJ Let the kid use his imagination, damnit.
@@prdarlin If I was a kid that is. But I like that area, great for trade and Anatolia is very defendable.
@KJJ I have other locations I would probably set up civilization, like North America, or France and Iberia, but I prefer what I mentioned before, Anatolia is easily defendable, same with Italy, with the Alps, I know I would not stay at that height, and may lose a province or 2 but they would keep their heartland of Anatolia and the Balkans!
Bruh, as an argentinian, the drawing with the phrase "people won't send an army thro the ocean" hit me hard
Argentina is a solid start too. You get corn and potatoes, Llamas and a river system. With mountains to your west, ocean to the east and a rain forest to your north.
how to start a civilization
number 1. live near river
number 2. wait 5000 years
Indigenous complex civilizations did develop in the Americas, with things like cities and specialization of labor. I can think of 5 major groups off the top of my head. Also, llamas and alpacas are indigenous to South America. You also forgot to mention that in North America turkeys were domesticated.
Incredibly well thought out video.
We were doing a Civilization essay at my school. Teacher put you on for help. Best day ever
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Rice is extremely labor intensive, and takes about as much water to grow as wheat and other common grains, and in a medieval context would have taken far more.
Asia's higher population in pre modern times had more to do with a combination of climate, water abundance, and rich and fertile soils due to the many flood plains and volcano ash rich soils in southeast asia.
Just wanted to come back and watch your first video to see how much you have improved over the years.
8:04 this is actually incorrect, Brazil DID in fact have pre-Colombian societies and civilizations that were agricultural and populated. There were “mound” fortified settlements which can be seen across Brazil today. These varied in shapes, and today can still be recognized as either circle mounds or rectangle mounds. There were large road networks between these mound villages which were, in one of the reports by Antonio Pires de Campos, home to a vast population inhabiting the region, with villages connected by straight, wide roads that were constantly kept clean.
However I do agree that there would be a lack of pack animals, but the evidence for large social structures and settlement planning does show that Brazil has the potential for starting civilization. (Though this occurred far after the earliest civilizations formed)
If I remember correctly, recent archeological evidence suggests that the Amazon civilizations did use the ecosystem to do their labor for them - they just didn't do it with pack animals. Instead, they domesticated many of the naturally-occurring plants of the Amazon to be highly useful for humans - and then instead of farming, they allowed the rainforest to take over. It's a genius strategy, really. Why waste all that human labor farming brazilnuts, when you can just count on the Amazon to grow a fuckton of them automatically? Then you can just selectively breed them, so the naturally-occurring rainforest ecosystem becomes hospitable to human life! I'm not sure I've seen this decentralized domestication strategy anywhere else, but it seems incredible, and I hope modern Western civilization can learn from it.
Thanks! Using this video to learn more! And use it for a roleplay game to make my own civilization! And play it with friends and family!
Thanks for the tutorial gonna try it out now
lemme know how it goes
I’d probably wanna start off around the Dniester river. It would have pretty good farmland, easy access the the Black and Baltic Sea for trade and freshwater, and European bison and Eurasian horses would be great for domestication.
The sad thing is that at one point only 10,000 years ago South America including Brazil had so much biodiversity that could have been domesticated such as Ground Sloths, Cuvieroniuses, Notiomastodons, Glyptodons, Toxodons, Macrauchenia, and Hippidions! The potential for civilization was massive, but it was all wasted when the natives unfortunately killed them all off, dooming them to be technologically behind the rest of the world, giving Europeans the perfect advantage that they needed to conquer the entirety of North and South America!
it seems they died off not only because of this, but because of the fact their size itself hindered them from finding enought food reousrces to sustain themselves.
South america did have a civilization, which this channel has forgotten about, Peru contains a craddle of civilization in norte chico, wich stands with mesopotamia, china, the indus valley, and the nile river delta.
South american cultivated both corn and potatoes, and domesticied lamas and guinea pigs as both food and transport animals, unfortunately, there were no ox nor burden beasts in south america , wich stiffled growth.
The europeans conquered north and south american because EVERYONE died of sicknesses, not other particular reason.
Europeans conquered Central and South America basically out of historical luck - the Incan Empire had just come out of an intensely brutal civil war when the Spanish arrived. Even then, there were multiple very close battles involved where the Inca used tight-quarters combat with spears against cavalry. As for the Aztecs, they were a rapidly-expanding militaristic civilization on the brink of collapse from all their expansion, with many enemies that the Spanish forces could (and did!) play against the Aztecs.
not just any big animal is domesticable. Africa has plenty of megafauna and no native domesticated species. You need social animals.
@@appa609 - The camel?
@Atheist Biologist I think he is talking about european diseases that killed majority of natives not some animal disease
Good analysis, keep the great job!
Cool af good video
More like fatal af
The reason why rice popluations are bigger is because rice can be harvested 3 times in a year. Thats why asian populations are roughly 3 times bigger.
Thank you, a long time ago I wanted to start my civilization and I didn't know how 😃👍
The history of humans: if the environment is nice enough to be desirable by humans, there's thousands of other animals that feel the same way
That part where you almost transitioned to talking about slavery but stopped yourself was the funniest part of the video
1:21 that tigers face is hilarious
Dope
Waiting for part 2
guess you'll have to sub to stay tuned ;)
@@h0ser already
Just what I was looking for, good video
Btw, I live in Chile, how good is it for to build a civilization?
1. We are surrounded by the Pacific ocean, the Andes Mountains and the most arid desert on the planet:
2. We have plenty of rivers and a lakes
3. We don't have jungles or many dangerous creatures
4. We can grow corn and potatoes
5. We have copper and saltpeter in the north (saltpeter can be used as fertilizer and for nitric acid)
6. We have llamas on the north (although it might be a stretch)
The only downsides are that it can be a bit small and we don't have many "useful" animals
Aside from the desert, it’s a pretty solid place to start. Why do you think the Incas built their empire in the Andes? xD not to mention, those massive deserts have raw lithium in them, worth tons of $
Well the Inca did quite well and they were partially in Chile so yea
I'd say it's because the land is thin and not wide and therefore the river can't get big enough before it met the sea, thought that just one of the many reasons
The issue with the desert is that it doesn't protect from anything, it just blocks you off from the sea, which isn't even that great as the Pacific is far too big to matter beyond coastal transport, which again won't be useful if it's mostly desert.
Lamas are ok-tier, basically sheep, not very good for land work and aside from children it's a bad idea to ride one.
The main issue with the Andes is obviously it's length and it being mountains making it hard to control, but i do wonder how much the Inca Empire could have expended before a more conventional collapse (had the americas stayed in isolation), maybe it could've had the same effect as others in spreading a shared culture/administrative system between heir states, leading to an iron age &co.
The Incas were incredible for a bronze-tech civilisation the terrain mostly prevented authoritarian power from taking over, which is good for progress/ideas but bad for assimilation/centralisation, yet they managed to perform the later quite well.
The number one problem by far is still the same however, the moment some old-world explorers disembark on the continent, 90+% of your population is fucked and there's nothing you can do about it.
Only way for the civilisation to survive is for the gap between first explorers and military expedition is large enough for it to at least stabilise and have the population recover as much as possible from the apocalypse.
You can go to Peru, where the Inca started.
Time to build my own civilization now, thx h0ser
Yooooo great job on this video I am subscribing now
This dude makes such rewatchable content.
this video is super awesome
bless the algorithm for sending me this channel. instantly subscribed
This video would be very helpful to some guys a few thousand years ago
Mayans and amazonians managed to build civilizations in the rainforest. Amazonians collapsed for unknown reasons but left extensive channels and agricultural patforms
Great video but u need to work on some voice like a little bit slow and claiming and some humour is also good things to add love u❤️
love u too boss
Nice video
is it actually crazy that i want to go back in time with a couple of my friends and build a village?
@@fanniinnanetguy653 I read somewhere you’d need atleast 75 people to prevent inbreeding.
@@Kunumbah1 you just need your neighborhood then?
If you want your village to last you would need both men and woman so new people can be born so your village does not run out of people and become empty
Idk that profile pic seems a little sus
@@theducknamednewepicla9507 duh, i got girl friends too
I have now realized that you are the reincarnation of sam o nella if he did countryball videos
Great video, but I think France and the UK are also great locations as if your starting from scrach you won't be able to take advantage of those teritories
and defences as it so vast where as France and the UK have exelent medium scale nations (Just move France's border the the Rine and your good)
I think he means Civilizations, not local cultrues...
Civilization means people speaking eatting wearing using writing in a totally different ways
France and the UK are just like 2 provinces of Roma Civilization
7:24 I thought this was a sponsorship ad lol
This video will be really useful for when we all snap within 5 years and need to make a new society after ours goes past the point of no return
Are you sure corn is the best in terms of ease of growing and nutrition? Potatoes are easier to grow in poor soil, contain all 9 amino acids, and are very calorie dense.
I think the real reason corn is so popular is a mix of excessive American corn subsidies and the fact that grains like corn, wheat, and rice with fairly consistent sized grains is just easier to tax.
Nah Corn gives you the best yield of any crop.
Rice is probably better if you can get the conditions right. But I think potatoes are an interesting substitute.
Potatoes is lacking in nutrients
Ireland cries in the background
If you wanna end up like Ireland, maybe.
Nice video bro
Nice, now i can make my own country!
Thanks bro!
Can I join?
6:43 bruh, rice takes most water out of all the staple crops
2:11
"I'll pretend I didn't hear that"
- Switzerland
(At least they did some pretty epic stuff to avoid the problems)
This guy embodies what I think education should be, laughing while you learn.
Thanks for tutorial
Here in Mexico you can eat pretty much everything and it's all so delicious. This location freakin' rocks and you all know it!
Yeah, the non-desert part of Mexico is pretty sick tbh. You've got good farmland, good wildlife, and the desert and seas to repel invasions.
This is a good video for writing and world building.
the 'control the river, you control the empire' reminds me of that one line in rango that is ''basically'' the same
you are forgetting about norte chico in south america, and the olmecs, wich ar craddles of cvilizations too, the mexicans made do withotu beasts of burdens, and the native peruvians made do with llamas, Cuys, and their prefred crops.
Making do without beasts of burden led to slavery and tribute and every single neighbor hating them with a passion.
Which led to pretty much everyone joining the Spanish and kicking the Aztecs even after they were down.
If I was to pick, I would choose islands like Ireland, UK and I suppose Japan as they have good farmland inland, plenty of rivers and defended by the sea.
Nah Japan is way too mountainous
Thanks my clash of clan village will really appreciate it
What about Europe?
Europe also has huge amounts of power, it even has the capital of one of the other superpowers, Moscow, Russia.
There's the Ural and Caucasus Mountains, the entire Mediterranean and Black seas, rivers, an ocean to the west, and mountains in the south.
Turkic & Mongols and arabs : hello bozo
@@kalenooc4938 ?
@@kalenooc4938 they never conquered the ibérian peninsula nor the Italian peninsula
@@reinodeforaminia8322 what,bruh the arab control iberian during caliphate time
@@fadhil2831 but no turks
8:59 what do you mean? Llama's come from south america do they not?
2:00 always love a good Monty Python reference
Chad, you just got a new subscriber
This just turned to a country recipe
Old world America had their own dogs too!
Rice is actually more difficult to plant but has more calories than other plants
as a civ6 gamer i find this tutorial very helpful
Religion,arts,and education .............period
3:08 idk why u put that image when saying “no sane army would travel across the ocean just to attack you” the Argentinians attacked the British land of the Falkland Islands, which was NEVER owned by the Argentinians, so it wasn’t the British attacking, it was defence since Argentina unlawfully invaded a British territory.
Australia's best bet for pack animals probably would've been the Diprotodontids, if they hadn't eaten them all.
As for hunting animals though, they kinda got the short end of the stick. The Thylacine and Thylacoleo may have been fearsome, but like all Marsupials, they'd have been dumb af
Hoser: no same army will travel thousand of miles just to attack you
British empire: hmmm....
Hoser: at least the ancient armies.
@2:45 What's the flag on the mountain please?
the calusa would like to have a word with you around 1:53- specifically how "building an empire based on fishing" is impossible
Location: California
Defensible Flatland: Central Valley
River: Sacramento/San-Joaquin Rivers
Grain: Corn (we'll send an expedition down south to nick some seeds)
Animals to breed to kill: Turkey
Animals to help us: N/A (maybe we can convince dudes to not kill off the last of the "Western horse" species *if there are still any individuals left* and instead domesticate them *BIG IF*)
Animals with brains: *possibly* some dogs we brought over from when we crossed the land bridge into America *ANOTHER BIG IF*
Iron: Yes it exists in California
Main technological focus: boats
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The lack of animals is bad, but the Asians did it, and they only had water buffalo.
We definitely won't be a global superpower, unlike the dudes in Asia or the dudes on the other side of the Rockies, but we will be a pretty large regional empire along the Pacific coast, and we are very isolated and very far away from everyone else, so contacting other civilizations will be VERY hard
thank you, the most useful tutorial on yt
Ok so the native Americans must have been noobs at this civilization game if they couldn't become an empire even with the best starting location.
Yep.
Like europeans before Rome?
@@konglight4070 no. Native Americans never reached level of for example ancient Celts.
@@pioterosiemdziesiat Never heard of the Andes or Mesoamerica, have you?
@@konglight4070 stone age. And we are talking about modern USA
1:29 The fact that there are thousands of people that still live in the jungles today.
Even his begginings are bangers
potatoes are better crops to grow than rice just because it contains everything that a human needs to survive in one neat little package. 5:59 You also said that potatoes were grains which i was quite confused about, because potatoes aren't grains mah dude. They are tubers, they grow inside the ground and stay there till harvest.
When you mentioned that asian countries have a big population because of rice, i would like to say that that isnt neceserally because of rice only, these countries have a better environment to grow foods, not just rice so many foods and plants to grow from all that sunshine and rain. Meanwhile in northern europe especially you have cold winters and not allot of sunshine to grow allot of foods. If you were lactose intolerant back then in Europe you would starve just because the potato wasnt there yet. People in asia didnt have to drink milk to survive, thats why most people in asia are lactose intolerant. Asia has a better environment to grow food meanwhile Europe is in a better spot to produce more products because europe is in the line of moderate weather where people can work harder without focusing on the heat or cold.
Rice isnt a superior crop, it has just been longer there then the potato has in Europe. The potato comes from America as you showed in the video, Rice you need to eat with other foods to have a stable diet, potatoes could sustain poor europeans who couldnt afford anything else. Rice has been there for soooooo many more centuries than the potato for europe thats the reason why asian countries have bigger populations. thanks for reading!
Thanks for the info, I was getting quite annoyed.
I saw the Kazakh flag and I'm now dedicated
I'd say a modern say modern-day France, would be pretty good, maybe extend the northeastern border all the way to the Rhine, should be pretty defensible, temperature is livable, lots of rivers, and huge plus, horses and cattle are plentiful
There wasn't any complex civilisation in France until the romans conquered it, before that there were the Gaul tribes
@@mrtrollnator123 the gauls and the Germanic barbarians actually did have complex tribes and ways of life though
@@willevensen7130 they did, but no complex Kingdom or state, they were rich, yes, however they were still tribal
So, this is where one of my fav channels started. Cool.
9:02
Llamas are native to the New World?
All I know is that I'm better off with a dank river valley near me.
Nice work .
Corn must be unlocked by buying the “new world season pass”
I’d argue that the Netherlands with a small bit of belgium and Germany also qualifies. A flat river delta with a sea to the west, mountains to the south and cold tundras in the north.
What about the east?
The north european plain isnt half bad, but the Netherlands specifically aint all that great.
Theres a reason dutch costal defense infrastructure is one of the seven wonders of zhe world
Uruguay, flat plains with a temperate temperature, rivers and the massive ocean to the east, amazon jungle to the north, desert and mountains to the west
Bison meat with corn do be looking enticing
I can *FEEL* the ear phones clicking
*8:47* All of civilization nearly died because some colonizer nearly ate something in the Americas, brought back to Europe, and killed 2/3 of Europe’s entire population.
me watching this high asf in my dorm instead of studying for my chem exam
who else saw the hurricane when he showed the picture of the usa