@@michaelramsey176 Ant agreed with Piers numerous times and didn’t even realize it(hell, he even made his points FOR him lol) because he was so worked up. Ant gets emotional like a woman on her period. I don’t even like Piers, and I enjoy Ant’s sense of humor... I just think he lost this debate is all 🤷♂️ I’m not gonna argue gun laws.
"So the little black faces don't mean as much as the little cherub faces?" This was the tactic Piers himself uses but it's turned around on him. What did Piers say to that? "Now you just sound ridiculous!!!" That was the best part of this whole debate.
Thank you, straw man blah blah blah agreed! He knows you are about to have a decent answer and he turns your answer into a false statement by only taking half the sentence and throwing it back at you like you stated something horrible and blasphemous
Piers doing exactly what Ben Shapiro accused him of in that famous interview here. Bully attempts, insults and as soon as he hits an argument he can’t answer, starts bringing up Sandy Hook, etc.
No body wants to kill real people we only wanna pretend we are killing real people and eventually 3d graphics are gonna look so real we can kill as much as we want and completely safe, and even video games have context besides GTA most games with guns are sci fi/millitary shooters.
No sir. I played Mortal Kombat as a kid and every fiber in my body wants to rip someone’s heart out 😂 Edit: I strongly feel the urge to be specific in saying this is a joke. I’m just chippin you guys!!!
Mmm... I have a tough time saying that violence in various media of games, movies or just ingesting horrific violence in online videos of executions etc have ZERO effects on crime rates. Similarly I have a hard time saying showing sex and sexuality in a very frivolous manner doesn't helps contribute to higher unwanted births, STDs etc. We're impressionable creatures and we have sex and violence deeply ingrained in us all by nature. By constantly feeding our minds on these things we begin to shape our thought process and eventually our hearts so that when a situation arises, we're more likely to lean into a regretful sexual encounter or violence as a first reaction. Violent media isn't all to blame, the parenting sucks, too many hours are required for parents to be at work away from their kids to make a living and that makes it soooooooo much easier to be raised by media of overtly violent and sexual natures.
video games are one of the many moving parts that causes people's minds to want to murder. If talking about percentage, it's probably like 1% of the problem. The mind is complicated and we do not fully understand it yet. But i am sure media, movies, video games all play a role in the development of a mass murderer. Should we censor it? No. Tons of people play video games and do not kill people.
Dude his debating tactics and opinions are two different things. Effective debating in his case is being able to control the direction of the debate which he seemed to do here. I in fact don't agree with what he says. Learn the difference between effective debating tactics and convincing arguments.
Geaotrix Who gives a fuck about a debating tactic. lol That is like saying the Denver Broncos won but the Seattle Seahawks have the best looking jerseys so therefore they get to win. Nobody cares. lol It is called people with common sense know who won and morons think Piers did a good job.
Relating to your example where did I say Piers won the argument? Tell me that and I'll agree with you on how much of a 'moron' I must be. As for the rest I'm not really willing to put anymore energy into this argument; I disagreed with Piers, I am not a supporter of his at all, and if that's how you want to paint me to be from my initial statement then so be it.
Piers is so good, thank you piers for telling us it's all the fault of video games, and that no one committed mass murder before the invention of computer games.....oh.
"He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither. ... Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." - Benjamin Franklin.
@@heavymetal_cutting_fabrication isnt it funny that the solution to a disease outbreak is exactly the same as the solution to terrorism, drugs, and communism: less freedom
Fuckin A.... We are being taken over by a globalist government and the amount of ppl that refuse to see and say "Oh well nothing we can do." DRIVES. ME. INSANE. I cannot stand em.
You listen to any debate they have on this show and Opie and Anthony do the same every time, except Ant just yells because hey, yelling makes your point valid.
Love how piers always brings up Britain's gun stats, but never mentions their violent crime rate. Britain has 2400 violent crimes per 100k, compared to 600 per 100k in the U.S.
Listening to Piers Morgan debating skills gives me douche chills as I read " Record UK homicides stabbing " There is a knife in every home in UK . Who is banning knives ???
And like he said, somebody in China went mental with a knife and nobody died. Why don't gun people just admit it's because it makes them feel cool instead of bullshitting about.
Piers Morgan: “99.99% of people are unaffected by violent video games.” Also Piers: “Mass shooters are influenced by violent video games.” Me: “Mass shooters also drink water, should we ban the water?”
Sure wish Ant would say “once they get one certain kind of gun taken they will go for the rest because they would find that the kind of weapon they are currently after won’t put a dent in what they are claiming to be fighting.”
people who are influenced by video games, movies or music are susceptible to being violent regardless. if all someone had were books, they would seek out the more violent books or Nietzsche....
#1 We don't have access to military weapons. #2 The supreme court ruled last year that the police are NOT obligated to protect us, we are our own first line of defense.
Piers is being really dishonest. Ant says, "There's more violence in Britian than in US." Piers response. "Do you really believe that? Have you ever been to Britain?"
Right?!!?... I was sternly interjecting EXACTLY THAT FACT myself here in 2020 like a crazy person at my TV due to it's OBJECTIVE FACTUAL TRUTH... AR-15's are NOT "assault weapons" Goddamn it!... soooooooo INFURIATING, doubly so when it's a Non-American, spouting "facts" that ARENT TRUE to us HERE. Primary among those is the tired ass Leftist/Democrat FALLACY IN FRAMING: AR-15 = 1930's era Tommy Gun OR Gatling gun or Uzi etc... at least be HONEST about your argument for God's sake.
@@billbilly7753 I mean as much as i do think anthony's a pos, he kinda is a responsible gun owner, like he didn't even draw his gun when he got attacked in NYC
Every time Morgan would ask Ant a question he wouldn’t let Ant finish answering before interjecting another question. He never let Ant make his point & he controlled the discussion. Such an asshole tactic.
georgedeaver I agree that ant got a little too emotional to a say the least lol the problem I have is that Peirs was playing with the numbers. He was conflating different issues and rattling off statistic and Ant was trying to be specific. I can totally see how someone would consider that a victory for Peirs but in my eyes Ant was trying to have reasoned and principled arguments and Peirs was kind of smugly deflecting. He uses very effective tactics, but that's all they are, debate tactics. It's not winning an argument, it's executing a strategy to present yourself as superior. It's all based in talking points and anecdotes with no true foundational principle. It's just annoying.
Desperado still wasn't crazy, he thought he was doing good crazy is something you can't fix by reasoning if people talked to him and convinced him that the society he's living in is being fixed, he wouldn't have shot those kids
AR 15 = ArmaLite Rifle 15.. not Assault Rifle 15. The gun is semi-automatic, meaning it only fires one round per trigger press and is, therefore, not a weapon of war.
i lived in a all black area one of the only few white people. helped a black woman, her boyfriend was beating the crap out of her and stole her legal gun. talked to detectives put him away. the police warned me of his violent background. i had seen 4 home invasions on my street in 10 years. 30 rounds isnt enough. i bought a ar15 and walked around with 2 9mm. always. put warning signs all over my yard. my house turned into a fortress just to sleep at night. you absolutely need 30 rounds. and you never know when a gun is going to jam. i had a 38 revolver for just that reason. i was spending so much money on guns and ammo i moved eventually. but if i didnt sit on my porch with a ar 15 next to me flaunting 2 guns hanging off my chest you best believe black people would of preyed on me. ive listened to their conversations outside my house on my security camera microphones
Piers is trained to confuse and frustrate any opponent in a debate. That's why he continuously cuts Anthony off, and skews numbers. Notice when Anthony is about to answer one of Piers' questions and Piers knows he's gonna make a real point, he cuts Anthony off and asks another question. Then rapid fire spits his ideology.
Ever been to Afghanistan? If you do a debate by percentages than Ant would be absolutely correct. Do you know weapons caches are found ALL the time but are taken and destroyed just as people are murdered all the time and not properly recorded. How many "mass graves" have you heard of being found in the US? More were found in 1 year than the 7-8 mass shootings Piers brings up dating back to the mid 90s.
Switzerland is the prime example. By law every citizen has to recieve training in firearms and have a rifle at home. Look up their gun crime stats. In the end violence of any kind is a cultural problem.
I think I'm finally going to buy my first handgun this weekend. Worked at a cnc machine shop making gun parts for over 7 years now, but never owned a gun. Definitely the time to do it in this country 😂
PIers was giving the interview here. To keep Anthony from making a good point, he kept asking questions. If Anthony asked a questioned he asked another question, Piers tatic is sad.. Nothing but questions, no listening. He wanted to derail every point with a question.
Nogarkhaz - Law abiding citizens don't go off and shoot people. Criminals, who don't abide by the law, shoot people. So please explain why more laws will actually help.
***** They still find ways to kill each other, if it's not the gun it's the knife or the cinderblock, or the arrow. People killing each other is a mental problem. We're not protecting anyone by taking guns away from legal owners. We're just making it easier for crazy people to kill innocent people. Crazy people kill. You can blame the gun all you want. You can blame the knives, the swords, the arrows. Crazy people always will find a way to kill. Why is this so hard to understand? If they don't have a gun, they will find a way to kill. How about we let innocent people protect themself?
***** You do realize that comparing crime in Europe to America is kind of ridiculous. These countries don't have nearly the gang problem we have, serious drug problem, the amount of guns on the streets, overall violence, high crime, ect. To the best of my knowledge these countries in Europe didn't have nearly as high of gun crime before the ban and they didn't have the overall crime we have. To cut down on gun crime/go after serious criminals/crack down on violent people with mental illness would you support stop and frisk, allowing government officals to look at anyone's medical records, and allow cops to search personal property without a warrant or probable cause?
***** The European countries with strict gun laws that you're talking about don't make it "a little harder" for someone to own a gun they make it almost impossible for legal gun owners to get a gun. How are you going to make it harder for these crazy people to own a gun when the vast majority of these mass shooters pass a background check in the first place?
***** These European countries make it extremely hard for legal gun owners to own a gun and you have to have a great reason to own one. The vast majority of these mass shooters don't steal their guns from their parents the majority get their guns legally by pass a background check. I'm guessing when you bring up "assault weapons" you mean guns like the semi-automatic AR-15's instead of the actual meaning? Semi-automatic long rifles have always been pretty available yet they are rarely used in crime and are responsible for less than 300 deaths a year ( which includes all hunting rifles and all long rifles). So I'm guessing you don't support stop and frisk and allowing cops to search personal property without a warrant? The gang shootings and urban crime are a much bigger problem than these mass shootings. The countries gun laws you are citing don't make getting a gun a "slightly inconvenience" they make sure very few own guns and the people who do own guns are usually the ones living out in the middle of no where/farmers.
Piers making his point. Opie, as usual, "HOLD ON HOLD ON!" in the middle of his point. After interrupting Piers' point, Piers attempts to tack on a new angle, "HOLD ON HOLD ON LET ME FINISH!"
Piers is grossly dishonest when he argues. Any time one of his points is countered, he shifts the focus of argument and declares that the previous focal point is irrelevant.
I generally am sympathetic to gun owners and gun rights activists, but I've yet to encounter a solid answer to the whole "why not own a bazooka?" point.
***** Well let's look at who is unbalanced and irrational: the ATF got caught a couple years ago shipping guns and hand grenades into Mexico. Who will watch the watchers?
When I heard Piers describe the mass shooters as white, early/mid 20s loners who play a lot of video games all I can think of is: He could have just stopped as describing them as white...the rest of that pretty much describes 95%+ of young men.
It is quite a stretch to think that the founders did not intend for individuals to own firearms outside of a military application, especially considering that they relied on it when they rebelled against the British.
One of my favorite O&A moments was when Patrice O'neal was on talking about home invasions and said how funny it would be if someone broke in and killed Anthony in his sleep. I have been hunting since I was 12 and used to spend entire summers murdering squirrels at my grandparent's walnut ranch and I will always prefer pump action shotguns and bolt-action rifles over any semi-automatic weapon. AR-15s are fun to shoot at the range, but to use them to hunt is a douche move.
"She was completely irresponsible." Exactly, Ant. She was irresponsible AND fully legal. "You cant blame the tool for the lunacy." True Ant, but you CAN blame the tool for the extremity.
@James Barker lol... no, it's a reaction to your willful misinterpretation. The point I'm making is that the design of a product matters in the laws that pertain to it's use. The extremity of a weapon should be regulated by law accordingly. The design of a car is not, and should not be regulated as a weapon.
Yeah but that's because Anthony isn't educated on the subject. Do you think America has the largest middle class by accident? Or is the wealth retention correlated with our ability to defend our property with weapons that resemble the arms of law enforcement? (Think about it. Look at every other country on the planet compared to ours.)
Bennmurray25 - You think America having the largest middle class is somehow connected to gun ownership? That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard.
Well it doesn't, gun ownership has nothing to do with wealth what so ever. The reason the US has the largest middle class is because you're the largest 1st world country by far, you have over double the population of Japan which is the second highest.
Josh R I never said firearms generate wealth. They help a man or woman defend their wealth and property. A high rate of wealth retention creates a large middle class. If an entity steals my wealth and property, I'm no longer in the middle class. You're a complete moron if you cannot understand why people choose to own firearms.
That was a HORRIBLE debate. Piers cannot let anyone talk. Anthony actually let him talk for a long time. But, as soon as he started countering, Piers would interrupt and very slightly change what the current argument was about. Stick to one thing at a time, ffs!
Ant is so amazing at being feisty and landing every single word and thought perfectly. No stutters or ums, pure art.
that's because of the booz he's drinking
@@farersehaha, the booze flow state
Piers Morgan's tactic: ask a question. Then interrupt with another question when they try to answer it.
It works for Bill O'Reilly and his ratings are through the roof!
+Vinny H. points? so did Anthony but piers Morgan just ignored him
This was driving me fucking nuts.
this is called a Gish gallop
The argument that the UK has a higher rate of violent crime than the US is ridiculous.
Anthony makes it about 10 minutes til he starts getting worked up. I give him credit for lasting that long with this dolt
I'm more surprised Ant went along with the term assault rifle when it's a bullshit term with no real definition.
Piers never answers to Anthony's responses he.just asks another question
Piers won this debate.
@@Imnottapinata do tell us how
@@michaelramsey176 Ant agreed with Piers numerous times and didn’t even realize it(hell, he even made his points FOR him lol) because he was so worked up. Ant gets emotional like a woman on her period. I don’t even like Piers, and I enjoy Ant’s sense of humor... I just think he lost this debate is all 🤷♂️ I’m not gonna argue gun laws.
"So the little black faces don't mean as much as the little cherub faces?" This was the tactic Piers himself uses but it's turned around on him. What did Piers say to that? "Now you just sound ridiculous!!!" That was the best part of this whole debate.
Deflect, straw man, ad hominem repeat. Piers debating 101.
Thank you, straw man blah blah blah agreed! He knows you are about to have a decent answer and he turns your answer into a false statement by only taking half the sentence and throwing it back at you like you stated something horrible and blasphemous
Rick P Exactly! Drove me nuts!
Piers doing exactly what Ben Shapiro accused him of in that famous interview here. Bully attempts, insults and as soon as he hits an argument he can’t answer, starts bringing up Sandy Hook, etc.
"he drinks heavily as well"
god dammit jimmy hahaha
I fucking love Jim so much for jokes like that, Sorry for reacting to a 5 year old comment, but goddamn it that was funny.
‘THE GAY COMMUNITY!’ Hahaha
I love how Ant always says “alllright”. I find myself doing it constantly now lol.
How is the "violent video game" argument still a thing? That was debunked back in the 90's.
No body wants to kill real people we only wanna pretend we are killing real people and eventually 3d graphics are gonna look so real we can kill as much as we want and completely safe, and even video games have context besides GTA most games with guns are sci fi/millitary shooters.
No sir. I played Mortal Kombat as a kid and every fiber in my body wants to rip someone’s heart out 😂
Edit: I strongly feel the urge to be specific in saying this is a joke. I’m just chippin you guys!!!
Mmm... I have a tough time saying that violence in various media of games, movies or just ingesting horrific violence in online videos of executions etc have ZERO effects on crime rates. Similarly I have a hard time saying showing sex and sexuality in a very frivolous manner doesn't helps contribute to higher unwanted births, STDs etc.
We're impressionable creatures and we have sex and violence deeply ingrained in us all by nature. By constantly feeding our minds on these things we begin to shape our thought process and eventually our hearts so that when a situation arises, we're more likely to lean into a regretful sexual encounter or violence as a first reaction.
Violent media isn't all to blame, the parenting sucks, too many hours are required for parents to be at work away from their kids to make a living and that makes it soooooooo much easier to be raised by media of overtly violent and sexual natures.
video games are one of the many moving parts that causes people's minds to want to murder. If talking about percentage, it's probably like 1% of the problem. The mind is complicated and we do not fully understand it yet. But i am sure media, movies, video games all play a role in the development of a mass murderer. Should we censor it? No. Tons of people play video games and do not kill people.
@@natestrickland1989 Fawk yeah!
Ugh Piers debating tactics are infuriating..
As effective as they are, they make you want to clock him square in the mouth
They're only effective to people that 1. Have never shot a firearm or are unfamiliar with them and 2. They don't have critical thinking skills.
Dude his debating tactics and opinions are two different things. Effective debating in his case is being able to control the direction of the debate which he seemed to do here. I in fact don't agree with what he says. Learn the difference between effective debating tactics and convincing arguments.
Geaotrix Who gives a fuck about a debating tactic. lol That is like saying the
Denver Broncos won but the Seattle Seahawks have the best looking jerseys so therefore they get to win. Nobody cares. lol It is called people with common sense know who won and morons think Piers did a good job.
Relating to your example where did I say Piers won the argument? Tell me that and I'll agree with you on how much of a 'moron' I must be. As for the rest I'm not really willing to put anymore energy into this argument; I disagreed with Piers, I am not a supporter of his at all, and if that's how you want to paint me to be from my initial statement then so be it.
Piers is so good, thank you piers for telling us it's all the fault of video games, and that no one committed mass murder before the invention of computer games.....oh.
"He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither. ... Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." - Benjamin Franklin.
That’s more relevant today than ever.
@@heavymetal_cutting_fabrication isnt it funny that the solution to a disease outbreak is exactly the same as the solution to terrorism, drugs, and communism: less freedom
Fuckin A.... We are being taken over by a globalist government and the amount of ppl that refuse to see and say "Oh well nothing we can do." DRIVES. ME. INSANE. I cannot stand em.
Wow, judging by the comments, most of you didnt actually listen to the video. Ant was dead on.
"Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at the individual discretion, in private self-defense." John Adams
Why does he keep interrupting anthony with questions when he hasn't finished answering the previous one
He doesn't want Ant to prove him wrong with intelligence and facts.
Because that’s how liberals operate.
You listen to any debate they have on this show and Opie and Anthony do the same every time, except Ant just yells because hey, yelling makes your point valid.
Love how piers always brings up Britain's gun stats, but never mentions their violent crime rate. Britain has 2400 violent crimes per 100k, compared to 600 per 100k in the U.S.
Don’t forget the egregious amount of terrorist attacks in the UK.
Around 33:24, after Anthony said, "...candlestick maker," you can hear Chip laugh in the background. That killed me! LOL
If it killed you how did you write your comment?
@conradsz good one...
The answer to every question posed by Piers Morgan is, “...because Freedom”
This shit is why the colonists revolted.
*1776 WILL COMMENCE AGAIN!!!*
You're a hatchetman of the new world order!!
Listening to Piers Morgan debating skills gives me douche chills as I read " Record UK homicides stabbing " There is a knife in every home in UK . Who is banning knives ???
You don't use assault rifles to eat dinner though do you? Bit hard to ban a utensil
And like he said, somebody in China went mental with a knife and nobody died.
Why don't gun people just admit it's because it makes them feel cool instead of bullshitting about.
They are banned outside your house.
You dont run in a school and kill 20 people with one
@@jarrydlee7906 you mean a tool can't just go out and kill on its own?
Much like a gun won't kill on its own.
Piers is a complete knob.
People started buying the same riffle used in the huge massacre. Anthony: uh yea because we knew they were gonna take them away 😭😭😭
Piers Morgan: “99.99% of people are unaffected by violent video games.”
Also Piers: “Mass shooters are influenced by violent video games.”
Me: “Mass shooters also drink water, should we ban the water?”
Extremely stupid argument
Oh boy you got him.
"Me:" shutup you narcissist.
You dunce.
Sure wish Ant would say “once they get one certain kind of gun taken they will go for the rest because they would find that the kind of weapon they are currently after won’t put a dent in what they are claiming to be fighting.”
congrats piers, you managed to ruin an hour of Opie and anthony.
Jimmy had him. Trying to attribute motivation to crazy is like trying to say rape happens because of sexy outfits
people who are influenced by video games, movies or music are susceptible to being violent regardless. if all someone had were books, they would seek out the more violent books or Nietzsche....
#1 We don't have access to military weapons.
#2 The supreme court ruled last year that the police are NOT obligated to protect us, we are our own first line of defense.
I think that SC ruling was actually back in 2005. Either way, the police have guns to protect their own asses, not yours or mine.
Yes probably in 2005, a couple times since it has gone back to the supreme court when people tried suing because the police failed them horribly.
They're not obligated but many do anyway.
7:40 piers continues to pepper Anthony with questions before Anthony can even answer the first question. Typical liberal debate tactic.
cheers for all your hard work in getting these up so fast, many thanks
Does Piers also feel as passionate about cigarettes, which kill millions every year around the world, being sold freely?
Yeah but people choose to smoke, kids don't choose to get murdered by a psycho
Piers may very well, but as Jarryd says, people who smoke CHOOSE to smoke. Lame argument.
Piers is being really dishonest. Ant says, "There's more violence in Britian than in US." Piers response. "Do you really believe that? Have you ever been to Britain?"
London has had 3 black race riots this week alone, and that does not include the nottinghill carnival. All black
But and AR-15 isnt an assault rifle piers.... find a new argument lolll
Right?!!?... I was sternly interjecting EXACTLY THAT FACT myself here in 2020 like a crazy person at my TV due to it's OBJECTIVE FACTUAL TRUTH... AR-15's are NOT "assault weapons" Goddamn it!... soooooooo INFURIATING, doubly so when it's a Non-American, spouting "facts" that ARENT TRUE to us HERE. Primary among those is the tired ass Leftist/Democrat FALLACY IN FRAMING: AR-15 = 1930's era Tommy Gun OR Gatling gun or Uzi etc... at least be HONEST about your argument for God's sake.
Can't believe Ant didn't bring up the fact that Columbine happened under an assault weapons ban.
Oh man I knew exactly where this was going as soon as I saw the title lool
Wasn't 9/11 the biggest loss of American life on home soil in recent history perpetrated with a box cutter, without a single gun involved?
Anthony didn't prepare. If he would have done his homework this would have been a better interview. He's fighting the good fight.
He did his homework. He's right on every point. The difference is Piers is being dishonest with the statistics and making unfair appeals to emotion.
He's fighting like a little pussy. Getting drunk, losing his pistol and beating up his girl. Such a responsible gun owner.
@@billbilly7753 I mean as much as i do think anthony's a pos, he kinda is a responsible gun owner, like he didn't even draw his gun when he got attacked in NYC
@@trickster6669 Shouldn't be looking for gun around his living room like it's a lost televison remote.
Bill Billy
Ever think maybe it was stolen by a trusted employee? Anyways idk but if he hit his girl that's disgusting
I love how Jimmy always goes after the Press
28:50 hahaha i love ants response "this is a weird stat you know and i dont know to make it sound like im not educated"
The smartest debate I’ve ever heard on O&A.
Piers: what do you think about that?
Anthony: I think that if we had....
Piers: do you know that blah blah blah
So. Annoying. I hate Piers
Piers Morgan the king of fallacies
“Hold on hold on hold on!!”
Piers just laughs because he knows Opie has no ability to argue a point.
If I drive my ford into a crowd of people, we must ban all ford cars. - Piers
Every time Morgan would ask Ant a question he wouldn’t let Ant finish answering before interjecting another question. He never let Ant make his point & he controlled the discussion. Such an asshole tactic.
Go get a job Piers!!! I love how the left has so quickly turned on this dude and are now calling him a racist!!!
The new colonists. "Do things how we do it, or else! Savage!"
The annoying part is Peirs probably walked away thinking he won
georgedeaver how do you figure?
georgedeaver I agree that ant got a little too emotional to a say the least lol the problem I have is that Peirs was playing with the numbers. He was conflating different issues and rattling off statistic and Ant was trying to be specific. I can totally see how someone would consider that a victory for Peirs but in my eyes Ant was trying to have reasoned and principled arguments and Peirs was kind of smugly deflecting. He uses very effective tactics, but that's all they are, debate tactics. It's not winning an argument, it's executing a strategy to present yourself as superior. It's all based in talking points and anecdotes with no true foundational principle. It's just annoying.
no Jimmy, people aren't just "crazy", there's always some reason behind it
Desperado
still wasn't crazy, he thought he was doing good
crazy is something you can't fix by reasoning
if people talked to him and convinced him that the society he's living in is being fixed, he wouldn't have shot those kids
Shooting children to "save" them sounds pretty crazy to me, partner.
Desperado
calling shooters crazy gets you nowhere
Glorifying them regresses you.
Desperado
learn what words mean before writing them
AR 15 = ArmaLite Rifle 15.. not Assault Rifle 15. The gun is semi-automatic, meaning it only fires one round per trigger press and is, therefore, not a weapon of war.
So true, no one has ever used a semi-automatic weapon in war
Piers thought that he was a great footballer, but then they banned him from moving the goalposts, so he had to find another hobby.
"Yeah, I agree with Universal Background Checks."
ya blew it
The amount of straight up lies in Morgan's arguments is infuriating
ant ffucked up
Anthony should have asked piers about the genocide in Africa with machetes. They should ban machetes there
Piers’ Alex Jones impression at the start was really good, lol
This bought completely goes to Anthony
This bought? Is that a thing that people say?
I think Piers torched Ant here personally
i lived in a all black area one of the only few white people. helped a black woman, her boyfriend was beating the crap out of her and stole her legal gun. talked to detectives put him away. the police warned me of his violent background. i had seen 4 home invasions on my street in 10 years. 30 rounds isnt enough. i bought a ar15 and walked around with 2 9mm. always. put warning signs all over my yard. my house turned into a fortress just to sleep at night. you absolutely need 30 rounds. and you never know when a gun is going to jam. i had a 38 revolver for just that reason. i was spending so much money on guns and ammo i moved eventually. but if i didnt sit on my porch with a ar 15 next to me flaunting 2 guns hanging off my chest you best believe black people would of preyed on me. ive listened to their conversations outside my house on my security camera microphones
"I love my kitten!" LOL
Piers is trained to confuse and frustrate any opponent in a debate. That's why he continuously cuts Anthony off, and skews numbers. Notice when Anthony is about to answer one of Piers' questions and Piers knows he's gonna make a real point, he cuts Anthony off and asks another question. Then rapid fire spits his ideology.
Ant is fuggin solid. God bless that big guinea brain
That's actually how debate is supposed to work.
He calls it a debate,I call it an arguement
"1776 WILL COMMENCE AGAIN!!!" Alex Jones.
Dame Marshall Hatchet man for the new world order!!!
This comment aged well👍
Anthony should've used Russia as an example, Afghanistan? Really? He's such a terrible debater.
Ever been to Afghanistan? If you do a debate by percentages than Ant would be absolutely correct. Do you know weapons caches are found ALL the time but are taken and destroyed just as people are murdered all the time and not properly recorded. How many "mass graves" have you heard of being found in the US? More were found in 1 year than the 7-8 mass shootings Piers brings up dating back to the mid 90s.
Switzerland is the prime example. By law every citizen has to recieve training in firearms and have a rifle at home. Look up their gun crime stats. In the end violence of any kind is a cultural problem.
I think I'm finally going to buy my first handgun this weekend. Worked at a cnc machine shop making gun parts for over 7 years now, but never owned a gun. Definitely the time to do it in this country 😂
Jeremy Clarkson absolutely demolished Piers in 2013 on Top Gear
piers is such an awful cunt.
Just about everyone in my town has firearms and yet we have almost zero gun deaths. Explain that.
Alec Baldwin doesn’t live there.
I'm 7 minutes in, the limey is already dodging questions.
Most people hate Piers Morgan in the UK btw, for any Americans wondering.
I don't like piers but he makes great points
PIers was giving the interview here. To keep Anthony from making a good point, he kept asking questions. If Anthony asked a questioned he asked another question, Piers tatic is sad.. Nothing but questions, no listening. He wanted to derail every point with a question.
Nogarkhaz - Law abiding citizens don't go off and shoot people. Criminals, who don't abide by the law, shoot people. So please explain why more laws will actually help.
***** They still find ways to kill each other, if it's not the gun it's the knife or the cinderblock, or the arrow. People killing each other is a mental problem. We're not protecting anyone by taking guns away from legal owners. We're just making it easier for crazy people to kill innocent people. Crazy people kill. You can blame the gun all you want. You can blame the knives, the swords, the arrows. Crazy people always will find a way to kill. Why is this so hard to understand? If they don't have a gun, they will find a way to kill. How about we let innocent people protect themself?
***** You do realize that comparing crime in Europe to America is kind of ridiculous. These countries don't have nearly the gang problem we have, serious drug problem, the amount of guns on the streets, overall violence, high crime, ect. To the best of my knowledge these countries in Europe didn't have nearly as high of gun crime before the ban and they didn't have the overall crime we have. To cut down on gun crime/go after serious criminals/crack down on violent people with mental illness would you support stop and frisk, allowing government officals to look at anyone's medical records, and allow cops to search personal property without a warrant or probable cause?
***** The European countries with strict gun laws that you're talking about don't make it "a little harder" for someone to own a gun they make it almost impossible for legal gun owners to get a gun. How are you going to make it harder for these crazy people to own a gun when the vast majority of these mass shooters pass a background check in the first place?
***** These European countries make it extremely hard for legal gun owners to own a gun and you have to have a great reason to own one. The vast majority of these mass shooters don't steal their guns from their parents the majority get their guns legally by pass a background check. I'm guessing when you bring up "assault weapons" you mean guns like the semi-automatic AR-15's instead of the actual meaning? Semi-automatic long rifles have always been pretty available yet they are rarely used in crime and are responsible for less than 300 deaths a year ( which includes all hunting rifles and all long rifles). So I'm guessing you don't support stop and frisk and allowing cops to search personal property without a warrant? The gang shootings and urban crime are a much bigger problem than these mass shootings. The countries gun laws you are citing don't make getting a gun a "slightly inconvenience" they make sure very few own guns and the people who do own guns are usually the ones living out in the middle of no where/farmers.
Here we are 7 years later
Not one mention of overprescription of SSRIs in any of these mass shooting cases
Piers making his point. Opie, as usual, "HOLD ON HOLD ON!" in the middle of his point. After interrupting Piers' point, Piers attempts to tack on a new angle, "HOLD ON HOLD ON LET ME FINISH!"
Gun control is so amazing in the UK, yet I'm 2-3 people away from purchasing an illegal firearm and breaking into someone's house...
Please DON'T!
Of course not dear, I like my anus intact and unpenetrated, just making a wee little point
Love to see piers answer that question
Just Rob 9/11
Piers is grossly dishonest when he argues. Any time one of his points is countered, he shifts the focus of argument and declares that the previous focal point is irrelevant.
u know someone is losing an argument when he gets flustered (anthony)
I generally am sympathetic to gun owners and gun rights activists, but I've yet to encounter a solid answer to the whole "why not own a bazooka?" point.
Why doesn't the Bill of Rights forbid cannons?
I'm on the same page. I think America has turned into a bunch of pussies.
Everybody owns cars. Why not own a tank instead?
***** Well let's look at who is unbalanced and irrational: the ATF got caught a couple years ago shipping guns and hand grenades into Mexico. Who will watch the watchers?
Probably because with a Bazooka, they'd kill a home-invader as well everyone else in their house! hahaha
When I heard Piers describe the mass shooters as white, early/mid 20s loners who play a lot of video games all I can think of is:
He could have just stopped as describing them as white...the rest of that pretty much describes 95%+ of young men.
If violent videogames are the cause of mass shootings, why weren't there millions of murders the day Grand Theft Auto was released?
@@phanatic215 there were... On PlayStation, Xbox, and PC
@Matthew Barry are you fucking dense? The murders I cited were in the game you dumb fuck.
It is quite a stretch to think that the founders did not intend for individuals to own firearms outside of a military application, especially considering that they relied on it when they rebelled against the British.
Good thing we stopped giving a shit what the Brits think back in the 1770's
Ant should have pointed out that British journalistic tactics caused Princess Diana's death.
British journalist are fuckin vultures
Hate hearing a British guy tell us how we should do things in America
One of my favorite O&A moments was when Patrice O'neal was on talking about home invasions and said how funny it would be if someone broke in and killed Anthony in his sleep. I have been hunting since I was 12 and used to spend entire summers murdering squirrels at my grandparent's walnut ranch and I will always prefer pump action shotguns and bolt-action rifles over any semi-automatic weapon. AR-15s are fun to shoot at the range, but to use them to hunt is a douche move.
Jump to 5:30 to get to the main debate between Piers and Anthony, lasts the rest of the upload.
I live in tx I remember specifically getting background checked when buying any of my guns even at trade shows
Lol Chip! 33:23
I love O & A but Piers owned him
Just the sound of Peirs Morgan's voice makes my skin crawl.
He didn't win . He kept asking questions that no one would fucking know , unless they looked them up.
"Well-regulated militia"
George Mason, the guy who basically WROTE the 2nd Amendment, stated the PEOPLE are the militia.
She s😌😚
"She was completely irresponsible." Exactly, Ant. She was irresponsible AND fully legal.
"You cant blame the tool for the lunacy." True Ant, but you CAN blame the tool for the extremity.
@James Barker You have clearly missed the point.
@James Barker facepalm
@James Barker lol... no, it's a reaction to your willful misinterpretation. The point I'm making is that the design of a product matters in the laws that pertain to it's use. The extremity of a weapon should be regulated by law accordingly. The design of a car is not, and should not be regulated as a weapon.
@James Barker ok you win. You quoted the winning argument, the magic stat. Well done sir. You've changed another mind forever.
@James Barker lol... You're still trying to argue. Go live your life son.
Piers hacked a dead girls phone when he was an editor.
2nd Amendment: Look it the fuck up Piers
Pierce killed Anthony
Yeah but that's because Anthony isn't educated on the subject. Do you think America has the largest middle class by accident? Or is the wealth retention correlated with our ability to defend our property with weapons that resemble the arms of law enforcement? (Think about it. Look at every other country on the planet compared to ours.)
Bennmurray25 - You think America having the largest middle class is somehow connected to gun ownership? That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard.
Josh R I said gun ownership helps us retain our wealth. Owning guns does not produce wealth if that's what you mean. Silly.
Well it doesn't, gun ownership has nothing to do with wealth what so ever. The reason the US has the largest middle class is because you're the largest 1st world country by far, you have over double the population of Japan which is the second highest.
Josh R I never said firearms generate wealth. They help a man or woman defend their wealth and property. A high rate of wealth retention creates a large middle class. If an entity steals my wealth and property, I'm no longer in the middle class. You're a complete moron if you cannot understand why people choose to own firearms.
I fucking hate Piers Morgan but he owned Ant with logic.
That was a HORRIBLE debate. Piers cannot let anyone talk. Anthony actually let him talk for a long time. But, as soon as he started countering, Piers would interrupt and very slightly change what the current argument was about. Stick to one thing at a time, ffs!
Detail please cause I heard a completely diff interview.