If you wonder why Scar is supposedly "out of character", because this is no longer the Scar from Clear Sky. His personality was reprogramed by the group behind the Zone. Damn shame you can't say it to him in his moment of doubt... :/
Unfortunately you cannot support his indecision in the room before this one. Just two difference flavors of "You gotta do it anyways Scar". What a shame.
Not quite, and before this Scar was quite a joking and chatty Stalker. According to the dialogues in Clear Sky, this is so. It’s just that in the initial intro he was shown quite serious and the video was not entirely handled by GSC, but by a third-party organization from Australia. By the way, they made the opening intro for Shadow of Chernobyl where they showed an unknown Stalker who saved Strelok from the death truck and who was then not mentioned anywhere in the plot. The encoding of the C-consciousness is not reprogramming the personality, but another defense system of the C-consciousness. Like a Brain Burner or Monolith. It simply makes you want to perform a certain task from the C-consciousness like “Kill the Strelok”.
He survived three emissions, outside. He was indeed not a serious character, but surviving three emissions did a job on him. Also, he was an agent before Clear Sky events. There's a PDA on Clear Sky base that mentions some kind of neuro device was planted in Scar, which is probably the reason why he survived those emissions in the first place, and was sent into Swamps to help Clear Sky. That unexpected first emission during the prologue of Clear Sky? C-consciousness caused it, to interest Clear Sky in Scar, since he's special.
@@Sychyov He didn't get anything psi-resistance implanted in him. The C-Conciousness agents archive in Stalker 2 says he has innate resistance "5th class psi-resistance assumed". Maybe the cannon changed, idk. It's also unlikely Scar was an agent before clear sky since his agent number is A:LS-017 and Strelok's is A:LS-013. Both were most likely taken to the reprogramming hallway after Clear Sky's ending.
My read on Scar's chadacter is this: Scar was Scar when we played as him in Clear Sky, but after the large emission at the end of the game, everyone at the CNPP who survived got taken and reprogrammed. Marshall was one of the original founders of Spark group. His memories got put into Scar, hence why Scar is so passionate when he tells the story of the chemical plant and his hatred for Ward. Scar was never involved. He wasn't there when Ward destroyed the OG Spark, he wasn't there when the chemical plant got taken over, he didn't found Spark and he doesn't hate Ward. He thinks he does, but it's actually Marshall who did. Somehow the monolith got a hold of Marshall and transferred his memories over to Scar and sent Scar to be the leader of Spark as an inside agent of sorts without him even knowing it. Scar being on the inside at Spark was essentially another X-project. You can read it in one of the notes found in Doctor's journals in his office. There are files depicting most of key characters being agents of the C-coinciousness and in Scar's file it literally says that his entire personality is the result of putting Marshall's memories into his head. Essentially, Scar is more of a vessel, rather than a character. The character and personality of Scar is mostly Marshall.
@deviatlon just a guy who founded the Spark group, I guess. I don't believe he was part of the original games and he was already long dead before the events of stalker 2.
@Magnus12982 these documents are scattered around Kaymanov's office in the final area of the game. I think they're called Dr. Kaymanov's diary. It should be somewhere right at the end. In general the final area has a lot of cool documents and lore stuff There could also be some other stuff in the secret room beneath Doctor's house in the red forest once you get there via main questline
@@paracetamolicecream It's not just that. Scar was never Scar to begin with. Just a vessel for an Agent. There is a PDA found on Clear Sky base called "Comms Session Log". In it, both Kalancha and Lebedev talked to V.D., who was Dalin's father and a member of C-consciousness. Scar had already been neuroprogrammed even before the events of Clear Sky, as evidenced by this PDA.
CIA: We've got the most advanced mind-altering MK Ultra program! Some Soviet water tank boys on a budget of one decrepit corridor and some CRT screens:
Imo scar was the backup plan for the C-Con if they were to be destroyed,therefore why the memory placement was done. And yes i mean the C-Con when they were in subtle matter
Imagine fighting and trying to win against something that created you to do exactly what they wanted to do; be a stepping stone in someone else's story. Every step of the way you were just doing their bidding. I think the revelation of that would drive most people insane.
LOL, if player chooses the side of Strelok, this scene would be different. Scar will take a scull from the sceleton instead of arm and his line would be different also - because after that line Skif will fight and kill Scar.
Although its completely non-canonical nor possible, what if the STALKER program had teased/revealed that every 'save' was actually the memories of the previous stalker implanted in the current player character? That every save after death activates a new sleeper agent, ensuring that such a conscious would surpass death and theoretically overcome any challenge no matter how improbable.
There's this thing called Azaroth or something like that in anomaly where you're playing 1 life but each death you transfer into a random stalker somewhere
People often said that theory is debunked but think of this, Charon maybe received some of Scar's memories from him and opens up a new possibilities. Hell, according to "leaked" screen story of stalker2 back in 2018 Strelok supposed to be clone double create by C-Con with all his memory installed so it ain't far fetched, Charon could be Scars prototype clone/body double.
What I love about this game is that they did something different from other medias' sequels. They didn't glaze the previous characters, and they didn't assassinate the previous characters. Strelok, Scar, and Alex were largely blank slates (except maybe Alex) so we really didn't have an idea of how these characters are outside of our influence. In the Zone, there really aren't heroes or villains, only legends. Strelok and Scar becoming antagonists (while not necessarily being villains) doesn't come off as a huge middle finger to the audience. I really enjoyed this game, but I've since uninstalled it until they improve the performance.
@@YungBeezer i would say that depends on perspective, because the strelok ending can seem batshit insane to some people, while it can seem like the logical end to other people, as well the scar ending, and all the endings in this game, its literally like: would you prefer being trapped in a cage with no way out or be trapped in an eternal hallucination your whole life or be under control of the ward always or living in a world where the zone is everywhere making it a dystopian apocalyptic reality? None of these endings are "Happy" endings, they are a false sense of choice, as it doesnt matter what you choose, it all ends in tragedy.
So Scar's real name before re programming him was Marshall?! Or the skeleton was a Stalker his name is Marshall, got killed and his memories got transformed to Scar, after wiping part of Scar's memories? Is Scar his original nickname or is it a nickname given to him by the reprogramming process? Who the hell is Marshall?! 😂😂 Is Marshall acutelly Marshall or he also got his memories partially, wiped and altered and given the name Marshall? 😂 Too many questions not enough answers! The rabbit hole goes deepAaaa 🤯😂
My personal theory is this. Scar who is our protagonist in Clear Sky is an elite mercenary who only cares about who pays him the most and is said to have dry humor by Lebedev. We can see that his personality is extremely different after the 2011 raid on the CNPP. I believe that "Marshall" was a Clear Sky memeber who fought along side Scar against the monolith in Limasnk, the Hospital, and the CNPP since Scar says he once knew him as if talking in the third person. After the Emission which ended the game we can see Scar, Strelok, and many more Clear Sky members in the TV room. The screen which scar shows as a "Memory Dump" from the stalker Marshall to Agent Scar leads me to believe that the consciousness and memoeries of marshall was copied over to scar which could explain the different personalities and the skeleton who is presumes to be Marshall.
@kcp0683 Scar, is already a C-Con agent at the start of Clear Sky, the unique ability to survive emmestions and his enhanced body functions was the effects of C-Con Agent programming. As Clear Sky faction during their medical evaluation told Scar that he has those unique abilities, but they didn't know that he is like that because he is an Agent! The re programming, is what made Scar to obey Clear Sky orders, on the idea of preventing anyone from approaching the CNPP. Ultimately, he was reprogrammed once more, getting memories from Marshall.
Marshall is original Spark leader, he was an agent of C-Con, then if I understand it correctly he was KIA, so C-Con had to take someone else. They got Scar after the finale of Clear Sky and transplanted memories of Marshall to Scar, so that he can be the new Spark leader, as original leader is, well, dead. So, Scar kind of isn't Scar from Clear Sky, he has the same body, sure, but not the same memories and mind, that's why he is different person now. Poor merc.
Scar was Scar when we played as him in Clear Sky, but after the large emission at the end of the game, everyone at the CNPP who survived got taken and reprogrammed. Marshall was one of the original founders of Spark group. His memories got put into Scar, hence why Scar is so passionate when he tells the story of the chemical plant and his hatred for Ward. Scar was never involved. He wasn't there when Ward destroyed the OG Spark, he wasn't there when the chemical plant got taken over, he didn't found Spark and he doesn't hate Ward. He thinks he does, but it's actually Marshall who did. Somehow the monolith got a hold of Marshall and transferred his memories over to Scar and sent Scar to be the leader of Spark as an inside agent of sorts without him even knowing it. Scar being on the inside at Spark was essentially another X-project. You can read it in one of the notes found in Doctor's journals in his office. There are files depicting most of key characters being agents of the C-coinciousness and in Scar's file it literally says that his entire personality is the result of putting Marshall's memories into his head. Essentially, Scar is more of a vessel, rather than a character. The character and personality of Scar is mostly Marshall.
@@ponteposterum damn that's so tragic for my boy. His mind is half formed. Imagine another conscience just ripping you out of the seat like that. At least noontide "came to". Scar was just... Wiped 😢. That also explains why he's a zesty little wax poetic... Not at all the 1 man death machine of clear sky
"the zone can be reborn and become what it was always supposed to be" HA! REBORN! HE SAID THE THING! HOLY SHIT ONE OF THE ENDINGS IS THE REBORN ENDING. THAT IS FUCKING AWESOME! good job scar, you finally changed current reality and now the zone won't kick you out.
@jamieisjabba "alright, that's our newer agent. We need to develop a new identify for him" "Hmm, its 2021. We should add more diversity among our agents. Lets make him gay"
This part really span me out. You literally go through hell fighting monolith and 2 other bosses, just for scar to randomly be deep in the facility. I feel like this mission needed to be stretched out into 3 missions to give each boss a proper send-off. The ending definitely felt rushed. Shame as most of the story is really good!
If you do a little parkour at Pripyat, you can actually go to the Generators region on foot without the portals in the endgame missions. It seems GSC originally planned for the endgame to be much longer but ended up cutting a lot of it.
I don't mind that you used the english VA, though the Ukrainian one is excellent... BUT -- I also CAN'T find the Ukrainian one anywhere on YT when specifically searching for it :/
@@tercomada No mames, todos nos va lo cómodo y nuestro propio idioma, encuentras gente así en cualquier lado. Si de algo, los gringos son más de aprender otros idiomas aunque no tengan una razón práctica, a diferencia de los europeos o sudamericanos que sí les sirve saber varias lenguas para tratar con los vecinos.
@@kirktown2046 mi experiencia personal me dice que son principalmente los ingleses y anglosajones en general los que menos interés tienen en aprender otras lenguas y que cada que pueden imponen su lengua,
bro literally has a steak for a brain, after 2 emissions, 3 reprogrammings, poor Scar is left like this.
3 emissions
two at the start of Clear Sky, third in the end.
@@slavianka7840 He probably meant 3 emissions and 2 reprogrammings
Atleast he won't be hungry
Yeah the dudes bat shit cray cray by this point
If you wonder why Scar is supposedly "out of character", because this is no longer the Scar from Clear Sky. His personality was reprogramed by the group behind the Zone.
Damn shame you can't say it to him in his moment of doubt... :/
Unfortunately you cannot support his indecision in the room before this one. Just two difference flavors of "You gotta do it anyways Scar". What a shame.
Not quite, and before this Scar was quite a joking and chatty Stalker. According to the dialogues in Clear Sky, this is so. It’s just that in the initial intro he was shown quite serious and the video was not entirely handled by GSC, but by a third-party organization from Australia. By the way, they made the opening intro for Shadow of Chernobyl where they showed an unknown Stalker who saved Strelok from the death truck and who was then not mentioned anywhere in the plot.
The encoding of the C-consciousness is not reprogramming the personality, but another defense system of the C-consciousness. Like a Brain Burner or Monolith. It simply makes you want to perform a certain task from the C-consciousness like “Kill the Strelok”.
Scar from cler sky get to monolit after end cler sky
He survived three emissions, outside. He was indeed not a serious character, but surviving three emissions did a job on him.
Also, he was an agent before Clear Sky events. There's a PDA on Clear Sky base that mentions some kind of neuro device was planted in Scar, which is probably the reason why he survived those emissions in the first place, and was sent into Swamps to help Clear Sky. That unexpected first emission during the prologue of Clear Sky? C-consciousness caused it, to interest Clear Sky in Scar, since he's special.
@@Sychyov He didn't get anything psi-resistance implanted in him. The C-Conciousness agents archive in Stalker 2 says he has innate resistance "5th class psi-resistance assumed". Maybe the cannon changed, idk. It's also unlikely Scar was an agent before clear sky since his agent number is A:LS-017 and Strelok's is A:LS-013. Both were most likely taken to the reprogramming hallway after Clear Sky's ending.
My read on Scar's chadacter is this:
Scar was Scar when we played as him in Clear Sky, but after the large emission at the end of the game, everyone at the CNPP who survived got taken and reprogrammed.
Marshall was one of the original founders of Spark group. His memories got put into Scar, hence why Scar is so passionate when he tells the story of the chemical plant and his hatred for Ward.
Scar was never involved. He wasn't there when Ward destroyed the OG Spark, he wasn't there when the chemical plant got taken over, he didn't found Spark and he doesn't hate Ward. He thinks he does, but it's actually Marshall who did.
Somehow the monolith got a hold of Marshall and transferred his memories over to Scar and sent Scar to be the leader of Spark as an inside agent of sorts without him even knowing it.
Scar being on the inside at Spark was essentially another X-project. You can read it in one of the notes found in Doctor's journals in his office. There are files depicting most of key characters being agents of the C-coinciousness and in Scar's file it literally says that his entire personality is the result of putting Marshall's memories into his head.
Essentially, Scar is more of a vessel, rather than a character. The character and personality of Scar is mostly Marshall.
who is Marshall
@deviatlon just a guy who founded the Spark group, I guess. I don't believe he was part of the original games and he was already long dead before the events of stalker 2.
Could you tell me the name of this document? I collected most of them and I never saw the one with all the name list you are describing
@Magnus12982 these documents are scattered around Kaymanov's office in the final area of the game. I think they're called Dr. Kaymanov's diary. It should be somewhere right at the end. In general the final area has a lot of cool documents and lore stuff
There could also be some other stuff in the secret room beneath Doctor's house in the red forest once you get there via main questline
@@paracetamolicecream It's not just that. Scar was never Scar to begin with. Just a vessel for an Agent.
There is a PDA found on Clear Sky base called "Comms Session Log". In it, both Kalancha and Lebedev talked to V.D., who was Dalin's father and a member of C-consciousness.
Scar had already been neuroprogrammed even before the events of Clear Sky, as evidenced by this PDA.
he actually unironically became liquid ocelot
You're pretty good
CIA: We've got the most advanced mind-altering MK Ultra program!
Some Soviet water tank boys on a budget of one decrepit corridor and some CRT screens:
Bro💀😂😂😂😂
They got the power of the noosphere, now imagine if CIA is the one who got that power
Imo scar was the backup plan for the C-Con if they were to be destroyed,therefore why the memory placement was done. And yes i mean the C-Con when they were in subtle matter
I just came from watching video about flushable wet wipes clogging plumbing and i see this next lmao.
Imagine fighting and trying to win against something that created you to do exactly what they wanted to do; be a stepping stone in someone else's story. Every step of the way you were just doing their bidding. I think the revelation of that would drive most people insane.
outside the games that's exactly what he was.
LOL, if player chooses the side of Strelok, this scene would be different. Scar will take a scull from the sceleton instead of arm and his line would be different also - because after that line Skif will fight and kill Scar.
Although its completely non-canonical nor possible, what if the STALKER program had teased/revealed that every 'save' was actually the memories of the previous stalker implanted in the current player character? That every save after death activates a new sleeper agent, ensuring that such a conscious would surpass death and theoretically overcome any challenge no matter how improbable.
There is such game mode in stalker anomaly
There's this thing called Azaroth or something like that in anomaly where you're playing 1 life but each death you transfer into a random stalker somewhere
all them theories about Scar becoming monolith after the first emission may be debunked now, but he sure kind of have some of the qualities of them
People often said that theory is debunked but think of this, Charon maybe received some of Scar's memories from him and opens up a new possibilities.
Hell, according to "leaked" screen story of stalker2 back in 2018 Strelok supposed to be clone double create by C-Con with all his memory installed so it ain't far fetched, Charon could be Scars prototype clone/body double.
the moment i saw scar i KNEW he was insane
What I love about this game is that they did something different from other medias' sequels. They didn't glaze the previous characters, and they didn't assassinate the previous characters. Strelok, Scar, and Alex were largely blank slates (except maybe Alex) so we really didn't have an idea of how these characters are outside of our influence. In the Zone, there really aren't heroes or villains, only legends.
Strelok and Scar becoming antagonists (while not necessarily being villains) doesn't come off as a huge middle finger to the audience. I really enjoyed this game, but I've since uninstalled it until they improve the performance.
But was Strelok an antogonist ? More like an antihero for me...
@ depending on your path he is *an* antagonist, like Scar.
In three of the four endings he is an antagonist
@@YungBeezer i would say that depends on perspective, because the strelok ending can seem batshit insane to some people, while it can seem like the logical end to other people, as well the scar ending, and all the endings in this game, its literally like: would you prefer being trapped in a cage with no way out or be trapped in an eternal hallucination your whole life or be under control of the ward always or living in a world where the zone is everywhere making it a dystopian apocalyptic reality? None of these endings are "Happy" endings, they are a false sense of choice, as it doesnt matter what you choose, it all ends in tragedy.
So Scar's real name before re programming him was Marshall?!
Or the skeleton was a Stalker his name is Marshall, got killed and his memories got transformed to Scar, after wiping part of Scar's memories?
Is Scar his original nickname or is it a nickname given to him by the reprogramming process?
Who the hell is Marshall?! 😂😂
Is Marshall acutelly Marshall or he also got his memories partially, wiped and altered and given the name Marshall? 😂
Too many questions not enough answers! The rabbit hole goes deepAaaa 🤯😂
My personal theory is this. Scar who is our protagonist in Clear Sky is an elite mercenary who only cares about who pays him the most and is said to have dry humor by Lebedev. We can see that his personality is extremely different after the 2011 raid on the CNPP. I believe that "Marshall" was a Clear Sky memeber who fought along side Scar against the monolith in Limasnk, the Hospital, and the CNPP since Scar says he once knew him as if talking in the third person. After the Emission which ended the game we can see Scar, Strelok, and many more Clear Sky members in the TV room. The screen which scar shows as a "Memory Dump" from the stalker Marshall to Agent Scar leads me to believe that the consciousness and memoeries of marshall was copied over to scar which could explain the different personalities and the skeleton who is presumes to be Marshall.
@kcp0683
Scar, is already a C-Con agent at the start of Clear Sky, the unique ability to survive emmestions and his enhanced body functions was the effects of C-Con Agent programming.
As Clear Sky faction during their medical evaluation told Scar that he has those unique abilities, but they didn't know that he is like that because he is an Agent!
The re programming, is what made Scar to obey Clear Sky orders, on the idea of preventing anyone from approaching the CNPP.
Ultimately, he was reprogrammed once more, getting memories from Marshall.
Marshall is original Spark leader, he was an agent of C-Con, then if I understand it correctly he was KIA, so C-Con had to take someone else. They got Scar after the finale of Clear Sky and transplanted memories of Marshall to Scar, so that he can be the new Spark leader, as original leader is, well, dead. So, Scar kind of isn't Scar from Clear Sky, he has the same body, sure, but not the same memories and mind, that's why he is different person now. Poor merc.
Scar was Scar when we played as him in Clear Sky, but after the large emission at the end of the game, everyone at the CNPP who survived got taken and reprogrammed.
Marshall was one of the original founders of Spark group. His memories got put into Scar, hence why Scar is so passionate when he tells the story of the chemical plant and his hatred for Ward.
Scar was never involved. He wasn't there when Ward destroyed the OG Spark, he wasn't there when the chemical plant got taken over, he didn't found Spark and he doesn't hate Ward. He thinks he does, but it's actually Marshall who did.
Somehow the monolith got a hold of Marshall and transferred his memories over to Scar and sent Scar to be the leader of Spark as an inside agent of sorts without him even knowing it.
Scar being on the inside at Spark was essentially another X-project. You can read it in one of the notes found in Doctor's journals in his office. There are files depicting most of key characters being agents of the C-coinciousness and in Scar's file it literally says that his entire personality is the result of putting Marshall's memories into his head.
Essentially, Scar is more of a vessel, rather than a character. The character and personality of Scar is mostly Marshall.
@@ponteposterum damn that's so tragic for my boy. His mind is half formed. Imagine another conscience just ripping you out of the seat like that. At least noontide "came to". Scar was just... Wiped 😢. That also explains why he's a zesty little wax poetic... Not at all the 1 man death machine of clear sky
> Scar learns he is a "C-Consciousness Agent"
> Does nothing about it
What a chad
0:51
Talking skeleton
"the zone can be reborn and become what it was always supposed to be"
HA! REBORN! HE SAID THE THING! HOLY SHIT ONE OF THE ENDINGS IS THE REBORN ENDING. THAT IS FUCKING AWESOME!
good job scar, you finally changed current reality and now the zone won't kick you out.
I like how they bring back this sence like we saw in stalker shadow of chernobyl and clear sky
"Can't you see I'm busy?"
1 second later: "You know, Skif..."
i have to see these cutscenes from youtube because my game bugged and tvs always only showed white
looks like a pc only issue
Why is he so zesty now lmao
blame c-con for that, they played with his egg salad.
@jamieisjabba
"alright, that's our newer agent. We need to develop a new identify for him"
"Hmm, its 2021. We should add more diversity among our agents. Lets make him gay"
he's like that creepy uncle everyone tells you to stay away from, goanna cap his ass in the morning, I hate fruit cakes...
@@Viberac the meme with the monolith being gay is real
All the English voice lines are pretty zesty
This part really span me out. You literally go through hell fighting monolith and 2 other bosses, just for scar to randomly be deep in the facility. I feel like this mission needed to be stretched out into 3 missions to give each boss a proper send-off. The ending definitely felt rushed. Shame as most of the story is really good!
Funny, I thought the last third of the game dragged on for too long.
If you do a little parkour at Pripyat, you can actually go to the Generators region on foot without the portals in the endgame missions. It seems GSC originally planned for the endgame to be much longer but ended up cutting a lot of it.
I liked the degeneration of this character's personality throughout the game. Starting as a supposed liberator and ending as a crazed fanatic.
very cool
Yo on my machine every TV was a blank screen
I DID NOT NOTICE THAT IT SAID SCAR WAS AN AGENT WHEN I WAS PLAYING THIS CUTSCENE!!!!!!!! SOMEONE TELL ME WHO MARSHALL IS!!!!
I don't mind that you used the english VA, though the Ukrainian one is excellent... BUT -- I also CAN'T find the Ukrainian one anywhere on YT when specifically searching for it :/
Los ingleses y EEUU no les gusta leer, tampoco oír nada que no sea ingles
@@tercomada No mames, todos nos va lo cómodo y nuestro propio idioma, encuentras gente así en cualquier lado. Si de algo, los gringos son más de aprender otros idiomas aunque no tengan una razón práctica, a diferencia de los europeos o sudamericanos que sí les sirve saber varias lenguas para tratar con los vecinos.
@@kirktown2046 mi experiencia personal me dice que son principalmente los ingleses y anglosajones en general los que menos interés tienen en aprender otras lenguas y que cada que pueden imponen su lengua,
Psycho Mantis?
You're that ninja!
I wish i could've seen what was on the tv screen in my game but it was all white for me
Jesus man, use "walk" in the controls. Stop running around like crazy.