a tip on how to "counter" trick stabs, mainly the metador one... just stand still and watch them try to trickstab you while you unload in their face :D
@@Jontohil2 The sad part is that, minus the baguette part, someone has definitely said that and tried to pass it off like it's an actual stab of some kind lol
*Super ultra top secret spy strat for when you're being chased:* 1. find stairs / slope 2. turn around super obviously 3. fuck the stairstab, just run away. they will notice you turning and think "HA, this is an idiot dumb idiot braindead f2p spy who doesn't know how obvious his stairstabs are!" and will wait at the bottom of the stairs. This is essentially you telling your pursuer "Can you wait there for a sec, I need to get a headstart" and then they politely follow your instructions. If they still chase after you because either a) you already did this or b) they don't know stairstabs exist then you can just stairstab them normally. Thank you for coming to my TEDtalk
Ok, I know it’s not related to the topic of the vid, but the music choice here is amazing. Doom, Risk of Rain, Jojo, and ULTRAKILL? That’s quite the lineup of music.
"Be polite" is certainly a missing strategy point in some TF2 players. Doing what the class is supposed to do the isn't really something to brag about. Of course, playing a class masterfully is not something anyone can do, but keeping things polite will avoid becoming a target. Players will go out of their way just to deal with you and you'll have a harder time playing your class. Besides, it's much more impressive seeing someone cleaning house and just being in awe on how good they play. People will want you on their team rather than having another try hard.
@@sonder_1620 Agreed, while some may argue that trash talking is part of the gameplay experience people forget it paints a target on your back, and you can't always play flawlessly. Politeness and ace plays makes you a legend, bantering just makes you another grunt.
hey really nice video man! spy is one of my fav classes and altho i only get a trickstab once in a blue moon and then get confused on how i did it, it truelly is the best feeling in the world. as a soldier main i would describe it like gettin a market garden. very good video, the animation is good and polished, the jokes are funny and the editing is pretty good. hope to see what you have next, you definitely earned my sub! 😁
While I'd say trickstabs are much more about mind games and market gardening is more about movement, they are very comparable and rather satisfying to pull off for similar reasons. Plus just like with trickstabs, they're not always optimal, but they're fun all Hell to do anyway.
If I get a penny everytime I pull a trickstab on a demoknight and they leave the game, I'd have 2 pennies, which is not much but it's funny when it happens.
If I had a penny for every trickstab I have done I would have 2 pennies, just enough to triple my damage by throwing said pennies into the air and shooting them with my revolver
Spy stuck in a corner with a heavy staring him down. "Some heavy mains might disagree with me" Lazy having a mental breakdown in the background: HE JUST WON'T DIE!!
What's funny is that yesterday I just pulled off my first trickstab chain in the last point of Upward with the Kunai and I couldn't help but taunt at the end of it. You feel like the coolest kid in the room.
3:04 About this specifically, I've noticed that due to playing Spy, I've gotten better at subconsciously recognizing the FOV of enemies. There's this sort of range I know to stay out of to not catch their attention and stay out of sight.
Trickstabs are cool. Lag getting me trickstabbed is much less cool. A kunai spy walking backwards 1 foot directly in front of me "backstabbing" me is cancerous.
Trickstabs are definitely another possible mindgame tool for the Spy. They can get you kills, yes.... but they can also help in escapes. If a person expects a stairstab when you're running up an incline, like some stairs or a ramp, they'll often not follow and just wait for you to do it. If you don't do it, you can just continue on your way and leave them briefly dumbfounded.
trickstabs are awesome becuase i have a butterfly knife irl and I can do two things, and two things only: Open the knife, and do that think where spy flips it around and its in the backstab pose.
i love random crits random crits are great i love them they are so much fun they make the game so much more fun i love dying instantly to some guy who ran at me maybe i should do that more rather than backstab why do i backstab why do i backstab why do i backstab why do i backstab
To add to the power fantasy being earned thing, this is part of why (for me) stabs feel better on Uncletopia or similar servers rather than casual. In casual mode it's pretty easy to find someone who you can get to let you set up the trickstab, normally you can decloak in broad daylight behind someone and they don't turn, etc. but on community servers where a lot of the players are 3000+ hours players, it's a pain in the ass to get 1 stab per life lol. So when you get that trickstab on someone who definitely knew it was a possibility, or you get a chainstab on the payload cart with the heavy/pyro combo who turns 360 degrees each second, or the stab on an engineer hiding in an impossible spot, it feels way better (to me at least). This is not meant to be a "community servers are better than casual" thing btw, I'm just saying it feels better when you pull off some shit against someone you know has countered that exact same thing 100 times before vs. pulling it off against someone who's not really trying to stop it
That power fantasy part really hit me I was beyond myself when i bought a peugeot (a 306 with rustholes in both rear wheelhouses) with my own money One of my friends never even drove the $3.5 mil car his dad just gave him.
Great thing about trickstabs as well. Makes them a bit more reluctant to pursue you. For example, I can not trickstab at all. However, because players avoid following me around corners or wait, it gives me enough time to escape.
mmm this gives me a video idea i think i'll name it "how to handle that high level kunai dead ringer spy that only disguises as scout but somehow still dominates your team by just pressing your class switch keybind and then press 3"
I got my first trick stab the other day after hundreds of hours of playing Medic and I've been grinding Spy ever since. Been using the DR and the Big Earner so I can be a speedy bastard
some of the trickstabs i've done are just ridiculous... Back in my day, when i was still an active spy-main... i did a version of the matador, that was so compressed, it looked like i was just doing a little dance in font of them, that made them die from cringe. xD moving side-to-side with A and D (in really short bursts that shouldn't realistically allow a matador) kinda glitches out hitboxes via interpolation, which is exacerbated by even normal ping levels, and just, gives you a free facestab. It doesn't work every time, but it works like 25% of the time, it's hilarious. of course, that was years ago, dunno if that got patched out at some point.
i had this epic trickstab once in the beginning of my spy career i was running up the stair to avoid a pyro and i just say "fuck it" and jump around, somehow stabbing him. he was not happy.
One thing that has happened to me: playing 120fps and 5 hours on spy, trickstabs medic, but on 60fps recerd it was: walking in straight line for medic. Next frame: medic ded
Got my first pc and tf2 was my first game. Couldn’t trick stab to save my life. Got off the game for years and now I’m back on it and for some reason trick stabbing almost comes naturally to me. Maybe it’s because my brain is actually developed or maybe it’s because of the amount of times I rewatched all of mr.paladins videos. Either way the game is so much more fun when you know how to trick stab
my first trrickstab was when I ran Spy for real for the first time, I was on CtI Doublecross, and there was a MASSIVE sentry nest at their Intel, I managed to trickstab an Engi who was actively hunting me, best part, it was a facestab lmao
a tip on how to "counter" trick stabs, mainly the metador one... just stand still and watch them try to trickstab you while you unload in their face :D
Often results in them running at you and dying like and idiot, it’s pretty funny to witness
thats the worst way to counter a matador
@@catcloudbox724 and yet it still works
@@organicleaf like everything, depends what players you come across
That would only work on bad spies. With good spies you either just hold s and just dont let them into your melee range
Can confirm that trickstabs are fun, especially when you land the more obscure ones
I love landing the obscure “reverse stair flip degree inverse swipe baguette” stab
@@Jontohil2 The sad part is that, minus the baguette part, someone has definitely said that and tried to pass it off like it's an actual stab of some kind lol
@@Jontohil2 its just called the flipstab
And what are the obscure trickstabs youre talking about?
I love nailing people with the “dirty bubble”
This is insanely high quality. Can't wait to see this pop off
yep, it deserves way more attention
It didn't pop off :(
2 months later: *22k views*
7 months later.:70k views
It is definitely a Jontohil2 moment whenever he says spy has a gun
*Super ultra top secret spy strat for when you're being chased:*
1. find stairs / slope
2. turn around super obviously
3. fuck the stairstab, just run away.
they will notice you turning and think "HA, this is an idiot dumb idiot braindead f2p spy who doesn't know how obvious his stairstabs are!" and will wait at the bottom of the stairs. This is essentially you telling your pursuer "Can you wait there for a sec, I need to get a headstart" and then they politely follow your instructions. If they still chase after you because either
a) you already did this
or
b) they don't know stairstabs exist
then you can just stairstab them normally.
Thank you for coming to my TEDtalk
Easiest thumbs up of my life.
Or you can just wait at the top of the stairs and SPY HAS A GUN
@@Changed_the_box-cat *The ultimate strat.*
I remember baiting reading another spy's stairstab attempt and just getting him when he landed. Most memorable stab of my life
We call that the "This is what a real trickstab looks like"
I could tell this small channel would be good just by the quality of the thumbnail tbh. Keep it up!
Also BIG Risk of Rain 2 soundtrack
Ok, I know it’s not related to the topic of the vid, but the music choice here is amazing. Doom, Risk of Rain, Jojo, and ULTRAKILL? That’s quite the lineup of music.
It now just occurs to me I indeed out all of those in a single video
ultramusix
And Starfox
I love the sfm bits and it’s very clear you put a lot of effort into these!
"Be polite" is certainly a missing strategy point in some TF2 players. Doing what the class is supposed to do the isn't really something to brag about. Of course, playing a class masterfully is not something anyone can do, but keeping things polite will avoid becoming a target. Players will go out of their way just to deal with you and you'll have a harder time playing your class.
Besides, it's much more impressive seeing someone cleaning house and just being in awe on how good they play. People will want you on their team rather than having another try hard.
gg > ggez
Honestly? This applies to every game, and I hope more people come to this conclusion.
@@sonder_1620 Agreed, while some may argue that trash talking is part of the gameplay experience people forget it paints a target on your back, and you can't always play flawlessly.
Politeness and ace plays makes you a legend, bantering just makes you another grunt.
@@Jontohil2 complementing the stab > crying about it
0:07 out of context is crazy 💀
Correction. Most classes can kill a spy with 2 melee hits. The ubersaw, a class of its own kills spies with one.
only when the spy isn't kunai over healed.
also spy can kill most classes with two diamondback crits before they even get into melee range.
As a spy and medic with similar play hours of 2 class, ubersaw will always land atleast 1 crit no matter what
what if you wanted to kill spy,
but god said, *triccstab* .
hey really nice video man! spy is one of my fav classes and altho i only get a trickstab once in a blue moon and then get confused on how i did it, it truelly is the best feeling in the world. as a soldier main i would describe it like gettin a market garden. very good video, the animation is good and polished, the jokes are funny and the editing is pretty good. hope to see what you have next, you definitely earned my sub!
😁
While I'd say trickstabs are much more about mind games and market gardening is more about movement, they are very comparable and rather satisfying to pull off for similar reasons. Plus just like with trickstabs, they're not always optimal, but they're fun all Hell to do anyway.
5:46 - 5:58 VERY IMPORTANT LESSON FOR FUTURE SPY MAINS
Trickstabs are basically doing a funny wiggle, and now you can’t unhear it.
If I get a penny everytime I pull a trickstab on a demoknight and they leave the game, I'd have 2 pennies, which is not much but it's funny when it happens.
If I got a penny for every time I pulled a trickstab accidentally by reflex, I’d have 2 pennys, which isn’t a lot but it’s cool when it happens.
if i had a penny for every time i landed a trickstab, ide have... 0... pennies... accept that one time but he was ubered so it didn't even matter...
If I had a penny for every trickstab I have done I would have 2 pennies, just enough to triple my damage by throwing said pennies into the air and shooting them with my revolver
*sniff* *sniff*
is that…
DEATH ODYSSEY FROM THE HIT STEAM GAME ULTRAKILL?
Great video, fantastic editing, and exquisite music taste!
Hot take: even though it's inefficient to go for trickstabs in inconvenient situations, it's really fun to see if you can get away with it
That's not a hot take, that's a cold statement
Spy stuck in a corner with a heavy staring him down.
"Some heavy mains might disagree with me"
Lazy having a mental breakdown in the background: HE JUST WON'T DIE!!
The only times I manage to trickstab is when I panic and have no idea what I'm doing.
4:06 to 4:24 had me ROLLIN' in my own laughter tears
I’ve done the demo knight trickstab by accident like 3 times already and it is both hilarious and satisfying.
What's funny is that yesterday I just pulled off my first trickstab chain in the last point of Upward with the Kunai and I couldn't help but taunt at the end of it. You feel like the coolest kid in the room.
Also, love all the uses of ULTRAKILL's music, smart choice always.
Same, and the use of some ultrakill in this video
I've been pretty sad and hearing your genuine joy at landing trick stabs brought a smile to my face. I appreciate your video thank you.
Spy: demonight without a charge but he can one shot anyone
i love these vids!!!! keep it up!!
Watching this at 1AM, half asleep, to only be energized to life by the sudden sound of Death Odyssey
Absolutely glorious music taste my guy :D
3:04
About this specifically, I've noticed that due to playing Spy, I've gotten better at subconsciously recognizing the FOV of enemies. There's this sort of range I know to stay out of to not catch their attention and stay out of sight.
Trickstabs are cool. Lag getting me trickstabbed is much less cool. A kunai spy walking backwards 1 foot directly in front of me "backstabbing" me is cancerous.
"and then you cry" seems to be the last step in just about everything a spy main does
My first trick stab was accidentally on a charging demoman
"be polite"
*Immediately shows a clip of him getting a backstab and doing the laughing taunt*
loving this channel recently, vids are super high quality, music choice is great, all in all awesome, keep it up!
"Nor is he the aimbot" has to be one of the best Jonto lines
Really good video, keep it up
Bro this guy is so underrated
That *SPY HAS A GUN* embodies true rage against the people who only use the shiv
6:47 evil laugh. All jokes aside, very entertaining video, trickstabs are indeed awesome.
Trickstabs are definitely another possible mindgame tool for the Spy. They can get you kills, yes.... but they can also help in escapes. If a person expects a stairstab when you're running up an incline, like some stairs or a ramp, they'll often not follow and just wait for you to do it. If you don't do it, you can just continue on your way and leave them briefly dumbfounded.
1:10 same, I don't think there has been a single time I didn't get random ubersaw cried and die when detected by medics
3:02 wait what? thats literally the order of my most played classes
6:43
Now that's what I call a Reverse Stair stab
trickstabs are awesome becuase i have a butterfly knife irl and I can do two things, and two things only: Open the knife, and do that think where spy flips it around and its in the backstab pose.
Man what kind of presentaation is this? SUBBED!
Didnt know its was called trickstab etc
Great video, well edited and well said. I will now go fail to play spy in casual while dying to random crit melees
i love random crits random crits are great i love them they are so much fun they make the game so much more fun i love dying instantly to some guy who ran at me maybe i should do that more rather than backstab why do i backstab why do i backstab why do i backstab why do i backstab
1:45 WOW that knife is crazy 😍
thanks for the ultrakill background music
To add to the power fantasy being earned thing, this is part of why (for me) stabs feel better on Uncletopia or similar servers rather than casual. In casual mode it's pretty easy to find someone who you can get to let you set up the trickstab, normally you can decloak in broad daylight behind someone and they don't turn, etc. but on community servers where a lot of the players are 3000+ hours players, it's a pain in the ass to get 1 stab per life lol. So when you get that trickstab on someone who definitely knew it was a possibility, or you get a chainstab on the payload cart with the heavy/pyro combo who turns 360 degrees each second, or the stab on an engineer hiding in an impossible spot, it feels way better (to me at least).
This is not meant to be a "community servers are better than casual" thing btw, I'm just saying it feels better when you pull off some shit against someone you know has countered that exact same thing 100 times before vs. pulling it off against someone who's not really trying to stop it
jontohil2 when ever he needs to talk about fighting something from a distance as spy : *deep breath* SPY HAS A GUN
"Be polite" says the guy that taunt after the kill only to be instantly killed. Me: "Seems abour right!"
"We looked you In the eye before we stabbed you in the back!"
-Elderly Goblin Crash Royal
That power fantasy part really hit me
I was beyond myself when i bought a peugeot (a 306 with rustholes in both rear wheelhouses) with my own money
One of my friends never even drove the $3.5 mil car his dad just gave him.
Great thing about trickstabs as well. Makes them a bit more reluctant to pursue you. For example, I can not trickstab at all. However, because players avoid following me around corners or wait, it gives me enough time to escape.
I was expecting “And then you cry… of laughter”
This video is awesomeness incarnate
mmm this gives me a video idea
i think i'll name it "how to handle that high level kunai dead ringer spy that only disguises as scout but somehow still dominates your team by just pressing your class switch keybind and then press 3"
4:17 Le Slappity SLAPPED.
4:46 is that heavy in the stock family guy death pose
spy is literally a sneaky glass cannon
"You aren't swipez or stabby"
But I wannaaaaaaaaa
I got my first trick stab the other day after hundreds of hours of playing Medic and I've been grinding Spy ever since. Been using the DR and the Big Earner so I can be a speedy bastard
lmao the starting clip is litteraly the same thing happened in the last game I played, with the exact same message (but replace demo with pyro)
and that’s when i pull off my „spy slayer combo”: stand still, airblast and shoot the spy with scorch shot. what’s he gonna do? come closer?
The double coin shot was damn smooth.
It's all laughter until a pyro who uses the m2 appears
The SPY HAS A GUN got me in the ground dying of laughter
0:11
トリックスタブ = Trickstab [Torikkusutabu]
父なし = No father/ Fatherless [Chichi na shi]
スパイ = Spy [Su pa i]
A ri ga to
I named my revolver The Trickstab.
Becuase the trick is, I have a gun.
This is the first person I've met who loves ultralill and tf2. Thank you, my purpose is fulfilled.
2:48 KILLED ME LMAO
loved the vid, keep it up
If i had a dollar for every time i hear this dude say spy has a gun i could get a burning flames team captain
I’ve only ever pulled off one trick stab before and it was without question a beginner’s luck moment.
As always, amazing video! I really hope UA-cam pushes out your videos even more
some of the trickstabs i've done are just ridiculous... Back in my day, when i was still an active spy-main... i did a version of the matador, that was so compressed, it looked like i was just doing a little dance in font of them, that made them die from cringe. xD
moving side-to-side with A and D (in really short bursts that shouldn't realistically allow a matador) kinda glitches out hitboxes via interpolation, which is exacerbated by even normal ping levels, and just, gives you a free facestab. It doesn't work every time, but it works like 25% of the time, it's hilarious.
of course, that was years ago, dunno if that got patched out at some point.
i had this epic trickstab once in the beginning of my spy career
i was running up the stair to avoid a pyro and i just say "fuck it" and jump around, somehow stabbing him. he was not happy.
honestly it’s because the feeling of out smarting an opponent than just going behind someone and pressing M1
3:41 relatable streetcleaner kill
For me, killing a Spy trying to trickstab will always be satisfying and funny
so today i’ve sucefully acted around the enemy team for several secounds and missed the knife multiple times
2:14 Is that music "Death Odessey" By heaven pierce her?
1:08 i already hit-killed a invisible spy shoting with crusader crosbow and random critic
This sound track slapps
this reminds me of when in halo reach sometimes i would jump over someone quickly turn around then assassinate them
Trickstabbing tip: ss-ss-sssPY HAS A GUN!
Oh my god its ship of fools (the song that starts at the skill section)
I got my first trickstab this morning by sapping a sentry then jumping off the stair and stabbing the engie
Underrated youtuber, great vids
When I get quote to quote "trickstab" i just laught when I see the animation in front of me ( witch is why I started maining Pyro in the fisrt place)
spy has a gun is the same energy of soldier has has a shotgun
I wish backstab angle was reduced to 170 degrees unless their back is against a wall
Why is literally every Minecraft skin I see online some kind of "le epic and cool enderman hybrid"
Wow… I always wondered if it was feasible to matador a charging demo… now I know
One thing that has happened to me: playing 120fps and 5 hours on spy, trickstabs medic, but on 60fps recerd it was: walking in straight line for medic. Next frame: medic ded
love the ultrakill music
Got my first pc and tf2 was my first game. Couldn’t trick stab to save my life. Got off the game for years and now I’m back on it and for some reason trick stabbing almost comes naturally to me. Maybe it’s because my brain is actually developed or maybe it’s because of the amount of times I rewatched all of mr.paladins videos. Either way the game is so much more fun when you know how to trick stab
my first trrickstab was when I ran Spy for real for the first time, I was on CtI Doublecross, and there was a MASSIVE sentry nest at their Intel, I managed to trickstab an Engi who was actively hunting me, best part, it was a facestab lmao