Real Samurai Explains Rules for Peace and War // 17th cent. Scrolls of Natori-Ryu // Primary Source
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
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Voices of the Past Where'd you source the pictures for this? I'd love to see them.
Absolutely fascinating source. Who knew that Samurai life encouraged patience and forbearance? I always assumed they were supposed to kill quickly and express rage to show demonstrate the extent of their power. This kind of protocol reminds me of the Law of Moses.
Look into Antony Cummins, he isn’t a good source. Doesn’t speak or read the language and he changes the text to sound better in English, his translator that translates the Japanese into English for him can’t read Classical Japanese and has it translated from someone else.
i love your channel i really do but where are you located?:) it doesnt matter at all except im curious greetz from belgium :)
"if you are unaware of a person's stupidity, then it cannot be helped. But if you are aware of it, and still have dealings with this person, then you are also considered to be stupid."
Seems like a pretty good life lesson.
sigh*** I learned it the hard way with my ex bestfriend who is arrogantly and proudly one
@@kevin080592 yup we all have. I've met such person 20 years later. I forgot how stupid he really is. I was sure that it was misunderstanding because we were young. But no, I was young and he is still stupid. Also he is doing much better in life which was a real pain to witnesses...
RandomOrForgotten
Lol sounds like your "friend" was ignorant af, dumb and a bit of a desperate incel simp. Lots of young 'Western' guys these days are borderline dysgenic "lost causes" unfortunately.
No more excuses dealing with Republicans...
@@ShadowPoet Only the same excuse for dealing with Democrats. Stupid is as stupid does. It is wise to deal with neither.
Those who speak with you about others
behind their back,
Will also speak with others about you
behind your back
she cheated with you, she'll cheat on you
@@ibnyahud I think deep down I always knew that...still tho
As a Japanese I've never heard about this. So I googled it. the Scrolls were written by a military scholar Masazumi Natori for samurai's in Kishu clan, but they were not very popular among the samurais. The clan adopted other school of military conduct. And this Natori-ryu became a guiding code of conducts for Ninjas, I learned. It was very interesting. Thank you.
That was a lot more etiquette about presenting severed heads than I expected.
I didn't expect any lol
It's a "Samurai for Dummies" what'd you expect?
It's one of the oddly lesser known facts about samurai. In war they gain prestige and rewards for showing off the kills they had made.
It was common practice for samurai to clean and make their heads look presentable before going into battle in case of death.
Now you mention it, I see that the Samurai Hairstyle makes it very convinient to carry a few of those Heads arround.
Guess thats intentional
We all know how it feels when somebody steals the head of your kill.
"Dont steal my kill, bruh!" Hey, had to keep a good kdr =)
Classical pvp rage. Who looted mine kill? xD
صح لسانك
he's taking my heads......HE STOLE MY HEADS!!!!!!
why didn't someone tell me he had one of those.....things.....Hojo, Bow.....[knocks 2 arrows, aims and fires, direct hit and horse dies]
hey, you wouldn't hit a SamuraI with glasses would you?? [get's punched]
don't you get it?? you made me when you betrayed my master!!!
-you made me when you killed my father!
how childish can you get??
The ancient texts refer to this as a "Bruh moment"
Now I know how to present a head. Always useful.
@StellarClick The mother in law, of course
... yeah totes! I was totally wrong about the gift wrap and bow. Boy was my face red.
It's a good thing to know if u time travel
It's always handy to know if you meet a new girl.
If you think you've seen a monster or something strange...just keep it to yourself.
If only we could all be so wise
You need to see a monster with your own eyes to believe it exists. But everyone back then believed in the supernatural. because that explained things that we cannot understand. Not much different from Christian beliefs that possession and exorcisms are a thing.
Monsters are physical.
Some people say they've seen monsters, but these stories usually don't make sense and are probably not true.
Anyway, here's what to do if you meet someone who's been possessed by a fox...
noticed that lol
Haven't watched the video yet, but for a long time Japanese people blamed mental illness and insanity on kitsune tsuki aka possession by a fox spirit.
Literally scrolled into the comments to find somebody who caught this contradiction haha
God people watching this channel really can't understand the concept of metaphor ?
maybe he was referring to rabies which foxes are known to carry
Best lesson: Don't deal with stupid people
Absolutely
'Don't feed the trolls'
Unfortunately these days that seems rather impossible
So.. stay away from Trump.
We need a modern version of these
"If you see a monster dont talk about it"
I loved that one.
Such a fascinating mixture of morality, prudence, and psychopathic bloodthirsty madness.
Or is it us who are mad?
That was feudal Japan
@Esben M I haven't presented any head to anybody this week but... modern warriors present scores of bodies to the founding fathers because 'murica.
My point is, humans haven't changed a bit.
@@AkiNoTsuki
The hardware hasn't changed, but the software we're running is obviously vastly differently, and therefore so is our behavior, generally speaking
@@gregorsamsa1364 This is actually a very profound analogy
6:26 ''Also know that those who talk to you about others behind their backs, will also talk about you when you are not with them''
Wisdom right there.
11:25 that's actually quite funny. It's like saying after you killed someone "oh yeah, I'm here to kill you for that".
"Btw, do you happen to remember when you did that thing? Well, that's why you're dead."
Dead dude:
I guess it helps if people are around
Even their assassinations had HONOR.
Honorable bushido. Wouldn't want your opponent to fight back.
@@SuzakuX it's an execution. For those tasked with it, theres no kudos. If it's done well, of course 'he's samurai'. If its messed up, it's a big shame for the executioner. For the one being executed, he needs to accept it with grace and resolve. If he panics or faints on the news, it's a shame. If he loses composure and draws his sword to fight back, he will end up either forfeiting his land, having his family stripped of rank or executed as well, etc etc. So in the end, much in the same way a kaishaku will cut the head off, at the moment of the first stab, in seppuku (hara-kiri) to save the agony of slitting the belly, it is also in a way a mercy. No one knows how the condemned wouldve acted upon receiving the news. Not to risk faces...
“Since they might be killed, samurai should not have elaborate houses.”
Also
“But if their lord wants them to survive, samurai should have elaborate houses.”
Logic 101
lol its like min maxing in a strategy game. Samurai have +20 death seeker stat which can be a weakness but if you give them a nice house, that penalty is reduced to +5
I see the ancient samurai educational system was as weak as ours is today. :)
It makes sense. If they're considered expendable by their lord, why the hell would they need big house? And if their lord wants them to live and prosper, why shouldn't they have some nice place? I guess you need to prove yourself first, survive couple of battles before daimio thinks you're good warrior and assigns you to less risky jobs
I think it's more like, you probably won't get a house but if you do it should be a nice one.
That is a lot of items to keep on your person. And never forget to craft a highly defensible garden.
Thankfully your servants could carry that
"Moats, pretty and deadly" .... certain to be a bestseller 😂
I use this advice in pvp minecraft servers
@Revolutionary Communist They are not, thats a common misconception
Malignant heads would make a great band name. All the cover art can be heads with their eyes and tongues popping out and stuff with a katana jabbed through it from the top.
a samurai would not "jab" his katana in this manner, fool.
jk
Hussein Horack how about yari?
Awesome idea!!!👍🙏
Heavy metal
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A lot of this was actually fairly instructive to life generally, especially that stuff about stupid people, gossip and taking sides in an argument...
One of the authors of the translation wrote a book about this topic - how to be a modern samurai by antony cummins
I will make sure to never display an improperly prepared head to my commander.
@yagbos The myth of bushido, mainly. It allows them to be romanticized as a kind of chivalrous ideal.
*_"if you are unaware of a person's stupidity, then it cannot be helped. But if you are aware of it, and still have dealings with this person, then you are also considered to be stupid."_*
*A list of the tools - because it is wise to carry these, no matter what age you live in.*
Katana and Wakizashi - personal defense weapons
A Quick Rope - cordage, today - paracord/550 cord
A Set Square - available in the school supplies at Walmart, with the rulers - the triangle one
A Stone Pencil - a writing instrument - Sharpies and Ball point pens
Money
A mirror - can be used for signaling
Tweezers
A Comb
A cloth - Weapons maintenance items
Medications
A Fire Striker - magnesium strikers in the camping section
A Wooden Taper - probably also for fire starting
Paper - for notes
*"Be prepared like this when travelling, and even during normal times."*
Yea dude it doesn't really make sense carrying all this everywhere you go
@@jeretielinen6482 no it does
"Be prepared"
Not having dealings with a stupid person is something I must learn.
For Godsakes; Remember to mention *Trial Cuts* , people.
Don't offer up improper heads either, dummies.
"With extreme repedity, inform the person of his crime, then IMMEDIATELY strike and finish him." This had me DYING! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The suggested rapid pronouncement of the reason for the execution just before killing the person is innovative to the say the least.
Youstolemybestredcrayon! [Thwack]
*rapidity
This seems more of a ninja tactic than samurai
it's amazing all this was normal just 300+ years ago..
An educated, moral person talking meticulously about the proper handling of freshly severed heads..
well, if my job's monthly bonus depended on the heads I collected (and presented!), better make an art out of it, right?
Also meticulously pointing out the heads *not* to take. While I am aware this was ignored in real life, at least in theory war was supposed to be contained.
That is a rather modern approach.
501 amiga
I’m pretty sure these people would look at our world 300 years in the future, and find our moral virtues rather repulsive and scummy. We have lost our honour and dignity in the modern world.
Rhys Nichols the japanese have not lost their dignity.
@@rhysnichols8608 Definitely. Severing heads is nothing compared to mutilating children's genitals and pumping a whole generation full of drugs, while you brainwash them into hating all authority and pretty much guarantee their life will be mentally ruined, to the point where many just opt to hang themselves.
That part where you’d get killed and then they’d tell you why is savage
Perhaps Samurai spiriual beliefs makes this reasonable. Such as, the departed soul can still hear you. The Tibet Book of the Dead works on this idea. The monk reads from the BOTD in the presence of the deceased body for 11 days to guide the soul through the bardo.
The original "you're already dead"
@@AshramRocket It's for the people around it, still living, so they know it's justified.
@@AshramRocket Or spirituality... whatever, lol
@@RKroese Spirituality and rational thought are rarely compatible.
People, people. You should always remember trial cuts.
Wow wow wow. I have been fascinated with feudal Japan since getting Shogun as a reading assignment in 7th grade.This was magnificent. Bravo!
I really enjoy the practicality of this. Great selection.
Fascinated by the words of the person who has written these. These are surely from a wise man.
I was surprised about the things was said about back biting as it is exactly the same thing was mentioned in Islam. "Backbiting is the word you would say behind someone but you avoid saying it in front if him/her. A person who does it is a weak person. And someone who talks behind someone else for you will talk about you behind you".
doesn't need to be inside a religion or teaching to realize that, religion just capitalize on that so it seems they're the one who thought about that, its just brand marketing
11:29. OMG this is too good.
Samurai: The supernatural doesn't exist
Also samurai: They maybe possessed by a fox
I think that it might be rabies?
Probably their way of explaining schizophrenia. If i remember right The fox is a trickster servant of the goddess of fortune.
This channel is awesome, thank you very much for the content! It would be interesting to hear the account of chinese traveler Ma Huan on the Majapahit empire. These historiographic accounts from travelers from everywhere around the world seem to be endless and very precious
They are meant to be 'ready to die' at any time. Such a powerful mindset.
So should we all be.
"Oh, samurai! What noble and reserved warriors who...[listens to pages of rules dealing only with decapitation]..never mind.
The section on heads will prove very useful to most people's lives today.
Pssh, I knew this. I never present my heads any other way.
It is always better to be a Warrior in a garden, rather than a Gardner in a War.
I don't know if samurai had such crazy laws but it is shocking to learn out. They are crazier than I thought.
I can see Ghost Dog reading this on his roof with his pigeons.
This is one of your best videos yet!
This was incredible, thank you!
Can't tell you how many times I have needed to write an oath, but not had sheets of paper....good advice
Every single part of this was really interesting, but I'm mostly surprised by the amount of rules about taking heads.
Malignant heads must have been sparkling because the man in question was in absolute terror and sweating profoundly.
....or he covered himself in glitter.
some of this is pretty solid life advice
Defensive gardening, love it!
"Place horse dropping inside a paper and wipe your blade"
Damn, that blade must smell like...shit.
Beware of the head snatchers, too. Those bastards, they stole all my heads!, the book of heads will be incomplete!
Love it! Satire is the absolute best way to deal with and expose these idiots in the main stream media. Well done!
7 years ago I dreamt I had an oval mahogany office. & All around the oval office were the helmets of different Samurai warriors.
It was absolutely awesome!
Visitors would ask me about the helmets.
It was a very real dream!
🙏🙏🙏🙏🌟
Could you make a video on the Chinese accounts of the Tocharian please
Accept your mortality, whether from old age or suddenly. Also accept that that fate is possible for your loved ones. It's part of being human.
The elaborate house defence sounds like an excuse for more senior samurai to have fancy homes.
I'm from Ireland, I think Japan is one of the most fascinating countries.
@@Breakfast_of_Champions Right okay
Breakfast of Champions
In some respects, like the entrenched socio-political dependency on US and other Anglophonic militaries for State defense plus the rising rates of hikkimori and older woman depression suicides, Japan is indeed worse than the UK. Japan in most other respects is superior to the 'West'.
@J U S T I C E Haha that's funny. Hey there are some very good wood carvers in Korea.
Dinner at a Samurai's place sounds intense...
Outstanding as usual!
Cheers!
"If you see a monster just keep that shit to yourself."
The funny thing is the the author claimed he never saw one either 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Such honor!
i have japanese blood and ive got to say, i have been a pretty loyal person my whole life without knowingly doing so only after reflection did i notice this or when others spoke about my actions
Gripping, entertaining and educational. More please. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Very cool. Thanks for sharing.
Seems rather a lots of concern over revenge killing and assassination! Also very funny about killing criminal before you finished reading the sentencing lol!
These are also just great advice to follow and good life lessons for any man. Great to hear!
Never knew I could design my garden in a tactical way.
The decency to track down family of slain servants and compensate them, combined with the absolute madness of head trophies and an entire etiquette for them…..
I always wondered how to present a severed head with proper manners and decorum.
I want to say I think this is probably one of my favorite documentarie. I would like to hear something similar on maybe woman or emperor etc
That was good. I think the ideas for dealing with insane or stupid people are still quite valid.
No wonder Japanese are so disciplined.
Even lost WW2 they maintain that discipline if they want to survive and rebuild their nation. Look at them now.
This is the most wonderful thing I've been fortunate enough to randomly learn.
It is priceless!
You can't make this shit up!
To many favorite rules for me to list lol.
I loved this! 🗡️🎎👌🏼
Okay I want to see like a 1960's P.S.A. read on the "how to properly collect and present an enemy's head," section. "Here's the Billy the Samurai. Well! Looks like Billy killed himself an enemy! Now what?"
Some good tips for living here. If someone will gossip to you about someone and trash talk them then chances are high they'll talk badly about you and trash you to someone else
I just discovered you channel. Excellent! I've subscribed.
Those good old days....i miss them.
Make videos about Southeast Asia please such as Nusantaran Archipelago, Phillipines, Thailand, Myanmar, Vietnam, Champa, Khmer Empire, etc
Sultan Kudarat's speech to the Maranao would make for a very nice short video.
11:44 This reminds me of 7 Dec 1941, where the declaration of war was to be presented just 30 minutes before the attack (and thus not enough time to warn Pearl Harbor).
That is still better than if it would not be presented like in 22th June 1941 by Germany to Soviets or called "not wr but a special military operation" in 24th February 2022
@@f-man3274 that would be _kinda maybe_ true *if* the declaration of war had actually been presented *in Washington* just 30 minutes before the attack. But it wasn't.
It still would have been considered an outrageous sneak attack by the Americans.
6:24
This is such a truth and something I wish they would teach to young people entering the workplace.
11:03 "Place horse droppings inside some paper and wipe it over a blade that has been used to cut someone. This will leave traces of the wiping and the blood will no longer be seen."
I can never see scenes in anime of assasins licking their blades the same again.
I love this kind of writing. Both the Japanese and European feudal societies came up with codes and morals to civilize war; the most uncivilized of practices. They invented chivalry and bushido during times of peace. They were literary devices. They were never practiced on a battlefield. Feudalism is no different than a mafia organization. Everybody takes what they can as long as you send a percentage up the line. Knights and samauri were just gangsters in armor.
only few hundred years, human couldn't change that fast. only tech could
So besides the whole “all of your worth and independence comes from the lord” part, bushi sound like pretty grounded people.
All of my worth and independence comes from The Lord.
Nothing has changed.
@@RKroese All my worth and independence comes from the Lord. This is objectively true.
Bushi items for daily use: long sword, short sword.
My items for daily use: smartphone, headphones.
@Anzu Wyliei
Closest European parallel would be the knights. Upper class warriors essentially, which is not really what police should be.
Archaic feudal rules which are brutal and absolute. You are born to your station in life, so know your place. It's amazing, knowing human nature, that the samurai endured as long as they did.
6:40 is some great wisdom for all time.
Based samurai
Some of these are still pretty valid
how are you gonna protect your _stuff_ ... from _criminals_ ?
♫ hire - a - samurai ♫
Fascinating. Thank you.
Happy days.
Look into Antony Cummins, very controversial figure in the MA and Japanese history communities. Neither one of the two mentioned can read Classical Japanese, Antony cannot read or speak the language yet he is trying to recreate this school. They have someone translate the Classical Japanese into modern Japanese then which Minami then retranslates. For those who don’t know Classical Japanese is extremely different than modern. After that he reinterprets in English to sound better. So the accuracy must be taken with a grain of salt. If you are familiar with Japanese history texts you probably know who Karl Friday is, and he too says to avoid Antony. Again he doesn’t actually know japanese and interpreting it to what he sees fit. He even talks about this in videos.
Anthony NS I am actually Antony Cummins and what this guy has just said is not correct. Basically my work has dispelled the fantasy people like this gent follow and they get upset.
@@AntonyCummins Right on!!!! You have found the true ninja and samurai!!!!
Remarkable and compelling!
Oh yess finally !!!! I will come out of lockdown as tru Samurai !!!!!!!!!!
Please do Pigafettas account of Magellans death during the Battle of Mactan Island.
Pigafetta is a cool sounding name 🙂, sounds "Mandalorian"🌝
Absolutely spot on
*Hey Bro… Thanks for the heads up*
'The book of heads' that's a thing that existed in Japan during the Sengoku Jidai...
Don't build a luxury mansion for fun, build a luxury mansion to confuse your enemies that you're having fun.
FANTASTICALLY entertaining, although the author would have taken my malignant head for such disrespect.
Man, the Samurai thought of everything...including reminding me to wipe my blade with horse poop and to push the eyes/tongue back into the head I severed. 😉
Dude... don't forget to trial cut. TRIAL CUT FES! (For Emperor's Sake)
There aren’t really any historical documentaries that put a lot of effort in recreating daily life in ancient japan. I’ve searched everywhere on UA-cam for any but I can’t find anything. Any suggestions are welcomed.
You might like Sanada Maru, its a historical drama, I haven't watched much but a few clips from it, but it certainly seems interesting.
Voices of the Past Where'd you source the pictures for this? I'd love to see them.
We Vannatru, Freya's people, hold Freedom to be the Prime virtue upon which all virtues are built. For how can one claim that an act is virtuous if it is not freely executed?
A man who forfeits his freedom must be buried with his mother 20 feet below the ground, lest they poison the cattle.
A man must be free, and not a slave, even to himself.
Proud to be a descendant from samurais