@@James-il3tq you have to shop around? Before Covid, one could buy any car at any time and within a few weeks, not months or year. Fast forward from 2021, 4 years later and Toyota has gotten worse in terms of supply of all the car companies.
I went to Toyota to buy a sienna. Dealer laughed and said I would have to wait atleast 24months. I said okay, I will buy a grandhighalnder limited hybrid. He said that would be at least 16months and this was in July even before the stop sale that's still in effect. So I am now technically gonna be waiting for atleast 20 months for that. A friend went into a Kia dealer for the carnival hybrid. He has been given a VIN already and for delivery in 3 months. I am now seriously considering moving over to the Kia carnival. I may just have to live with the fact that it's fwd, or better still wait for the 2nd generation palisade hybrid.
a great review as always. I find e-CVTs not to be particularly offensive, the high whine sound is just the engine giving its all. I do find fake artificial shifts offensive and mechanical automatic transmissions antiquated for they interrupt the engines power delivery to provided a simulated shift or in the case of an automatic to change a gear. As a driver of a Prius I try to avoid aggressive use of the gas pedal which eats up fuel economy and creates the loud whine.
Nice looking in and out. Only thing I might think about is with that large of a vehicle, how the 1.6 turbo would hold up if a lot of highway driving. Kia did a good job and, hopefully, they will produce a lot of them in comparison to what Toyota produces.
Kia/Hyandais are decently reliable but don't expect this turbo to hold up as long as Toyota's 2.5L naturally aspirated Sienna engine (and near bulletproof hybrid system). Vehicle maintenance is paramount for small turbo engines especially oil changes every 5000 miles (8000km) MAX. If you want to keep this 300,000km+ (200,000 miles) oil changes every 3500-4000 miles (6000km) highly recommended. Watch The Car Care Nut. He's such an honest mechanic who goes in depth and has a tonne of experience as a Master Technician!
As someone that has to carry their Wheelchair / Walker around due to a disability vans are the only thing I buy. Can't beat the price and the utility. Great for road-trips, kids all sorts of reasons... Let people have their over priced gas-hungry SUV's and Pick-up Trucks!
I think kia hyundai are developing hybrid with bigger engines. That would be an ideal engine for this car. 1.6 turbo seems like a bit too small for a car like this. I like how it looks and capable as an people hauler though. I think the real world test should be the car full of people with stuff at the back. Not many people buy this for one or two people in the car.
Turbocharged? That’s a dealer breaker for me. Otherwise it’s a nice looking van … other than it’s a Kia. I could be convinced to leased , depending on interest rate/out the door price.
First impressions: Inside, it looks nice. Very comparable to their sister vehicle the Hyundai Santa Fe. But outside ... I dunno. I could be very wrong, but it looks way too heavy and low to the ground. No wade depth, whatsoever. And though in many areas, that's not a deal-killer, if you're in Houston or New Jersey -- that vehicle is gonna brick the first time it's surrounded by water. Something to think about before you drop a C-note on that sucker. *amazing gas mileage due to that hybrid system, though. just wow.
Looks like a decent vehicle, but I still don't know why Kia uses the 1.6T Gamma engine in their hybrids. That is a tiny engine and this is a big vehicle (4852 pounds plus people/things), meaning the engine will almost always be in boost. That doesn't bode well for long term durability and/or fuel economy. Kia/Hyundai have their newer SmartStream 2.5L four cyclinder engines (like they use in the Sportage), which are dual injection (port and direct injection), which would be a better choice for their hybrids.
@@stevenstewart1308 That's my point. They have (IMO) a better engine in the newer SmartStream 2.5L engine. They should use that engine with their hybrid system instead of the Gamma II 1.6T. The non-turbo 2.5L would be less stressed, would likely return slightly better fuel economy and has dual injection so won't suffer from carbon build up after a couple of years.
@@jeffer1101 the 1.6 was designed solely for efficiency, which is why it's the engine used in the hybrids. Plus the cost to develop a 2.5 hybrid powertrain would just drive up the price of the vehicle even more and who is going to pay over 60K for a minivan?
Hi Zack and Andrea, My daughter wanted to get one of these but supposedly the previously model had poor crash safety ratings, which is surpassing since almost all sales would be to families. Have you heard anything for Kia on if t see new model has fixed that issue and what the Crash safety rating, in the US, are? Thats the only thing keeping them from purchasing this.
So in 2022 when they tested it, it did very well except for the side impact. The second row seat actually became detached. Kia fixed that problem and the seat no longer comes detached, but it still gets a poor rating. It’s quite shocking because when this car was designed every other SUV from Kia was getting perfect side impact crash tests…. Very, very strange that they did not reinforce the side structure with the refresh
@@nicholasbabeaux2052 Yes we ask the dealer about it and they said they would check and get back to us but they never did and will not return calls. Too bad as she liked everything else about it.
Where are you located, and what are your markups? I’m in BC and someone told me their dealer wanted $6k over msrp including dealer add ons that were not negotiable and they didn’t even have inventory
I don't know how many are aware, but the Kia Sorento has a huge Achilles heel in the lower front grill which does not adequately protect the radiator/intercooler from road debris (You can see it here 5:43). There are numerous complaints in social media about the Sorento, of busted radiator/intercooler from rocks, costing close to 1500 USD to replace. Unfortunately Kia carried over the same front end design to the Carnival.
Agree. Toyota's basic EAWD does the trick here in Canadian winters (with winter tires of course). It's not flashy or sporty but helps in slippery situations. 2019 Rav4 hybrid owner 😊
You guys are excellent, but left this review at front wheel drive only. I've become fatigued at the routine disaster of minivans getting stuck at ski hills.
Yes but don't expect that engine to last nearly as long as a naturally aspirated equivilant. Extra maintenance also vital on turbo engines as the oil becomes contaminated quicker. Oil changes every 3500-5000 miles max are vital for long term reliability.
@@James-il3tq yes absolutely it is even more important to change oil frequently. Do note the particular G4FJ engine's been around for many years and thankfully it doesn't have any known critical flaws unlike some other Kia engines.
@@varunaXIt does from a coat stand point. They already have this powertrain in other models, why spend the money to develop a new powertrain with a bigger engine? 240hp will be enough for most of the people buying a minivan.
Good to consider getting extended warranty if you plan to keep it beyond factory warranty. I'd also consider the lower resale value you'll get for this then a Sienna down the road. Not saying don't get one just consider cost of ownership. Oh and more frequent oil, changes on this tiny turbo very importantly for long term reliability.
@@brianb7844 lots of half tonne trucks out there with smaller turbo engines and they do just fine if used appropriately. Would I load 8 people, a week's worth of luggage and a 3500lb trailer on the back of this van? No, I'd buy a vehicle built for that but most people hauling kids and hockey gear it'll be just fine.
It’s a good showing. #1 reason for buying hybrid is better fuel economy. Sienna comes in with better economy…it’s the winner here over the Carnival. The Sienna’s AWD rating is still actually better than the Carnival which is FWD only. Here on the prairies AWD Sienna sell 10 to 1 over its FWD version. It’s a good showing for sure and they did a good job, but Sienna still reigns 🤴
@@raymondswenson1268I live in Alberta and wouldn't say AWD a necessity but highly preferable. Good winter tires are more important. If you're in really bad winters studded winter tires help with traction at the expense of of road noise and tire wear.
Nah. I say it'll blow up right after 100k miles. They're not dumb. Why give a 100k powertrain warranty if they expect the motor to only last 50k miles. They'll end up giving free engines to everyone.
@@cadd9511I'm amazed people buy cars expecting engines to only last 100,000 miles? 😂 I'm at 210,000km on my 2019 Rav4 hybrid and plan to keep it til 400,000km (250,000 miles). I'm diligent with maintenance and change oil every 8000km (5000 miles). Don't forget to check hybrid battery filter often!
What do you think, how long the 1.6 engine going to last for that large heavy mass???????? Of course they won't mention that, not their money you will spend on repair.
You do realize that the electric motor will be assisting the engine right? So the engine isn't taking the entire load. Shouldn't be an issue of durability and if there is I'm sure they will extend the warranty like they always do.
EVs yes, hybrids are pretty mainstream now, affordable (as much as gas models anyways) and lowers fuel costs considerably. On Toyota's ECVT hybrids you also have higher reliability then gas model equivilants with no starter, alternator, less engine and brake usage.
@@James-il3tq there is still a pretty big affordability gap as I see it. They're either only available as brand new models, or lack of availability (aka no discounts at all, and possibly a wait-list), or a Toyota, or some combination of the three. Unless you do big miles I don't see how the numbers work. I would assert that buying a 50k minivan to save on gas is a rich person's game.
Encore le même système hybride WoW kia et Hyundai sont vraiment des dans la cave pour le développement des hybrides qui plus est est très ordinaire comme les autre coréennes ou presque . Technologie d’une autre époque. Ils ne développent rien. De la médiocre technologie, mais ça coûte pas cher à produire mais c’est un. Éhicule mal adapté et ça va sauter. Vive Toyota et Honda de vrai hybrides. Hyundai et Kia c’est e la coche étiez.
But you come to comment anyway. And if giving thousands of engines away for free and extended the warranty on multiple vehicles for multiple reasons is screwing someone then I'll take a good screwing anytime.
@@clayton8465 do you feel better about making your comment? You say you don't care so you won't watch but still comment which shows that you do care. But you probably don't own a Kia or Hyundai and have never been "screwed over" by either brand but just jump on the hate bandwagon.
toyota hybrid is a better design cvt is not regular hybrid with metal bands but gear driven design . i dont like the kia little motor turbo charged design , carbon build up . kia looks good good job
Definitely expect higher reliability and resales from the Sienna but this is a nice looking and driving hybrid for those who prioritize the that over long term reliability and resale value.
Great review. Toyota Sienna is basically unobtainable, let's see if Kia is serious about selling this hybrid Carnival and they're actually available!
You have to pay $3000 dealer mark up and wait 2-3 months, and you can get it...
Toyota should discontinue vehicles they cannot deliver to the mass vs making a few hundred a year to the car lottery winners. It just enrages ppl.
It's obtainable if you have patience. Also if you're willing to shop around. I'd also ask why is it in such high demand?
The sienna transmission lasts forever along with the engine. It's a much better product
@@James-il3tq you have to shop around? Before Covid, one could buy any car at any time and within a few weeks, not months or year. Fast forward from 2021, 4 years later and Toyota has gotten worse in terms of supply of all the car companies.
Great interior design and I think that’s a well done! Great show Andrea! 👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@andreaspencer9813 👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻☕️☕️
LOVE the timeout seat in the back!! 😂😂😂-Dad
I went to Toyota to buy a sienna. Dealer laughed and said I would have to wait atleast 24months. I said okay, I will buy a grandhighalnder limited hybrid. He said that would be at least 16months and this was in July even before the stop sale that's still in effect. So I am now technically gonna be waiting for atleast 20 months for that. A friend went into a Kia dealer for the carnival hybrid. He has been given a VIN already and for delivery in 3 months. I am now seriously considering moving over to the Kia carnival. I may just have to live with the fact that it's fwd, or better still wait for the 2nd generation palisade hybrid.
Did you check more then one dealership? When spending $40,000 USD checking a few dealerships would be a minimum reasonable bit of of due diligence.
Also, don’t need AWD for a mini van. Just get some winter tires
a great review as always. I find e-CVTs not to be particularly offensive, the high whine sound is just the engine giving its all. I do find fake artificial shifts offensive and mechanical automatic transmissions antiquated for they interrupt the engines power delivery to provided a simulated shift or in the case of an automatic to change a gear. As a driver of a Prius I try to avoid aggressive use of the gas pedal which eats up fuel economy and creates the loud whine.
offensive ?
I just got mine delivered on Saturday. Haven't been able to really drive it around yet.
my brother got 2022 Kia Carnival and ALREADY burning OIL!
less than 20,000 mile.
Nice looking in and out. Only thing I might think about is with that large of a vehicle, how the 1.6 turbo would hold up if a lot of highway driving. Kia did a good job and, hopefully, they will produce a lot of them in comparison to what Toyota produces.
Kia/Hyandais are decently reliable but don't expect this turbo to hold up as long as Toyota's 2.5L naturally aspirated Sienna engine (and near bulletproof hybrid system). Vehicle maintenance is paramount for small turbo engines especially oil changes every 5000 miles (8000km) MAX. If you want to keep this 300,000km+ (200,000 miles) oil changes every 3500-4000 miles (6000km) highly recommended. Watch The Car Care Nut. He's such an honest mechanic who goes in depth and has a tonne of experience as a Master Technician!
Just an FYI, the Telluride only had white DRL for 2023. They put it back to amber for 24 and up.
As someone that has to carry their Wheelchair / Walker around due to a disability vans are the only thing I buy. Can't beat the price and the utility. Great for road-trips, kids all sorts of reasons... Let people have their over priced gas-hungry SUV's and Pick-up Trucks!
Love Kia Carnival Hybrid review Andrea@Zack Good Review ( Ty Ron
Thank you Ron, glad you enjoyed it!
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I think kia hyundai are developing hybrid with bigger engines. That would be an ideal engine for this car. 1.6 turbo seems like a bit too small for a car like this. I like how it looks and capable as an people hauler though. I think the real world test should be the car full of people with stuff at the back. Not many people buy this for one or two people in the car.
I agree with you. 2 liter turbo sounds awesome with around combined 300 hp / 300 lbs tq.
@@uniquestion777that much power not needed with the hybrid torque on top. A less 2.0L turbo with less boost (less stress on engine) would be nice.
"Big enough to hold a body" 🤣
Great review!!
You guys are such a neat combo!! Love❤
Turbocharged? That’s a dealer breaker for me. Otherwise it’s a nice looking van … other than it’s a Kia. I could be convinced to leased , depending on interest rate/out the door price.
Imagining this loaded up with kids and gear is asking a lot for a tiny turbo. Diligent maintenance is vital on these powertrains!
It's 2024 bro, turbos are good if maintained properly
That's a massive car both from Kia 🎉
Super practical that's for sure. It's well done!
I saw a ID Buzz driving around from Vancouver VW, promoting the product. Can you do a review on it?
We will for sure. Unfortunately we can't make the drive event next week. We'll be at another event in Spain.
Trunk is big enough to hold a body... For those times you have a murder at 8 but soccer practice at 6... Lol
First impressions:
Inside, it looks nice. Very comparable to their sister vehicle the Hyundai Santa Fe.
But outside ... I dunno. I could be very wrong, but it looks way too heavy and low to the ground. No wade depth, whatsoever. And though in many areas, that's not a deal-killer, if you're in Houston or New Jersey -- that vehicle is gonna brick the first time it's surrounded by water. Something to think about before you drop a C-note on that sucker.
*amazing gas mileage due to that hybrid system, though. just wow.
Turbochargers are not designed to be turned on/off frequently in a hybrid system.
better tell that to Toyota, Ford, BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Porsche, and Volvo as well since they all have turbo hybrids
I’m not a fan of turbos, manufacturers are doing it to meet emissions, long term, they get to sell you a replacement turbo down the road 🤪
Does it have a snow mode? Should I trade in the Odyssey?
No AWD.
In a vehicle this big they could not find enough room for a spare tire?
Looks like a decent vehicle, but I still don't know why Kia uses the 1.6T Gamma engine in their hybrids. That is a tiny engine and this is a big vehicle (4852 pounds plus people/things), meaning the engine will almost always be in boost. That doesn't bode well for long term durability and/or fuel economy. Kia/Hyundai have their newer SmartStream 2.5L four cyclinder engines (like they use in the Sportage), which are dual injection (port and direct injection), which would be a better choice for their hybrids.
agreed. 4 cylinder fwd is pretty weak. has to be $$ id guess. v6 would cost a lot more
But they already have a 1.6L hybrid powertrain, not a 2.5L one so it makes complete sense to not develop a new one.
@@stevenstewart1308 That's my point. They have (IMO) a better engine in the newer SmartStream 2.5L engine. They should use that engine with their hybrid system instead of the Gamma II 1.6T. The non-turbo 2.5L would be less stressed, would likely return slightly better fuel economy and has dual injection so won't suffer from carbon build up after a couple of years.
@@jeffer1101 the 1.6 was designed solely for efficiency, which is why it's the engine used in the hybrids. Plus the cost to develop a 2.5 hybrid powertrain would just drive up the price of the vehicle even more and who is going to pay over 60K for a minivan?
Hi Zack and Andrea, My daughter wanted to get one of these but supposedly the previously model had poor crash safety ratings, which is surpassing since almost all sales would be to families. Have you heard anything for Kia on if t see new model has fixed that issue and what the Crash safety rating, in the US, are? Thats the only thing keeping them from purchasing this.
So in 2022 when they tested it, it did very well except for the side impact. The second row seat actually became detached. Kia fixed that problem and the seat no longer comes detached, but it still gets a poor rating. It’s quite shocking because when this car was designed every other SUV from Kia was getting perfect side impact crash tests…. Very, very strange that they did not reinforce the side structure with the refresh
@@nicholasbabeaux2052 Yes we ask the dealer about it and they said they would check and get back to us but they never did and will not return calls. Too bad as she liked everything else about it.
@@chuckroyse8401 wow that’s super shady, there’s absolutely no reason they should not have that information available immediately you know
Will Canada actually get these for msrp? Want a Sienna but don't want to pay huge dealer markups.
Where are you located, and what are your markups? I’m in BC and someone told me their dealer wanted $6k over msrp including dealer add ons that were not negotiable and they didn’t even have inventory
That's crazy. There's $1000 to $1500 off msrp for the hybrid in the USA already.
Canada has laws not allowing dealerships to charge over MSRP but some get around that by adding aftermarket packages to the car to up the price.
I don't know how many are aware, but the Kia Sorento has a huge Achilles heel in the lower front grill which does not adequately protect the radiator/intercooler from road debris (You can see it here 5:43). There are numerous complaints in social media about the Sorento, of busted radiator/intercooler from rocks, costing close to 1500 USD to replace. Unfortunately Kia carried over the same front end design to the Carnival.
Fwd only is a hard deal breaker for this Canadian.
Agree. Toyota's basic EAWD does the trick here in Canadian winters (with winter tires of course). It's not flashy or sporty but helps in slippery situations. 2019 Rav4 hybrid owner 😊
You guys are excellent, but left this review at front wheel drive only. I've become fatigued at the routine disaster of minivans getting stuck at ski hills.
So 1.6 liter turbo is powerful enought to drive that big car? !
The combined powertrain numbers are very similar to the old 3.3 V6 so I'd say so.
Yes but don't expect that engine to last nearly as long as a naturally aspirated equivilant. Extra maintenance also vital on turbo engines as the oil becomes contaminated quicker. Oil changes every 3500-5000 miles max are vital for long term reliability.
@@James-il3tq yes absolutely it is even more important to change oil frequently. Do note the particular G4FJ engine's been around for many years and thankfully it doesn't have any known critical flaws unlike some other Kia engines.
Love it
How come no discussion about the self driving features?
Kia to all reviewers "don't call it use the V word!"
Tell them to put the dual injection 2.5L + hybrid and this thing will be perfect. Please no turbo hybrids unless its a performance car then im sold.
Isn't the Pacifica hybrid as well? That makes 3 hybrid minivans, no?
Real question is how will the drivetrain handle when theres 6 people and their stuff
That is a lot of weight to haul with a 1.6L turbo 4.
yep a 4 cylinder doesnt really make sense here
@@varunaXIt does from a coat stand point. They already have this powertrain in other models, why spend the money to develop a new powertrain with a bigger engine? 240hp will be enough for most of the people buying a minivan.
@@stevenstewart1308 it’s not the hp, it’s the weight of the vehicle versus the engine size.
Good to consider getting extended warranty if you plan to keep it beyond factory warranty. I'd also consider the lower resale value you'll get for this then a Sienna down the road. Not saying don't get one just consider cost of ownership. Oh and more frequent oil, changes on this tiny turbo very importantly for long term reliability.
@@brianb7844 lots of half tonne trucks out there with smaller turbo engines and they do just fine if used appropriately. Would I load 8 people, a week's worth of luggage and a 3500lb trailer on the back of this van? No, I'd buy a vehicle built for that but most people hauling kids and hockey gear it'll be just fine.
You talk about turbo charged engines like they're a good thing.
The v6 model has a spare hung under the passenger side sliding door. I guess the battery of the hybrid took up that space?
California ❤
Wish there was a dark headliner. Idk why people get light headliners on minivans its going to be covered in splatters and mess before you know it.
Where is the 2025 Tucson?
You forgot about the Pacifica Hybrid.
That big well in the back is big enough to hold - another engine. Might need a spare if you really are towing 3500 libs.
Seems everything good but no 4WD, forget it
1.6T gives me a pause.
Leatherette equals 1980's Vinyl seats. Do u remember when vinyl was the base seat and cloth were the better seats!
Except leatherette isn't vinyl, it is a lot better.
@@waynelion-cachet35 Good to know. Thank you!
@@waynelion-cachet35sticky, unless it’s cooled.
@foxlake6750 leather has the same problem
It’s a good showing. #1 reason for buying hybrid is better fuel economy. Sienna comes in with better economy…it’s the winner here over the Carnival. The Sienna’s AWD rating is still actually better than the Carnival which is FWD only. Here on the prairies AWD Sienna sell 10 to 1 over its FWD version. It’s a good showing for sure and they did a good job, but Sienna still reigns 🤴
Anyplace where you have to drive in winter, you need AWD. I live in Washington State, and need AWD to drive the mountain passes 6 months of the year.
@@raymondswenson1268I live in Alberta and wouldn't say AWD a necessity but highly preferable. Good winter tires are more important. If you're in really bad winters studded winter tires help with traction at the expense of of road noise and tire wear.
Agree! The AWD on the Sienna sets these two vans totally apart really.
1.6 Turbo lol. With that weight the engine is going to blow up by 50k miles.
Nah. I say it'll blow up right after 100k miles. They're not dumb. Why give a 100k powertrain warranty if they expect the motor to only last 50k miles. They'll end up giving free engines to everyone.
@@cadd9511I'm amazed people buy cars expecting engines to only last 100,000 miles? 😂 I'm at 210,000km on my 2019 Rav4 hybrid and plan to keep it til 400,000km (250,000 miles). I'm diligent with maintenance and change oil every 8000km (5000 miles). Don't forget to check hybrid battery filter often!
Still no AWR/4WR😅
Hmm. They price it similar to sienna. I wish them good luck.
Juicy Fruit gum and ventilated seats in So. Cal. temps.....hmmmmmm
Why the difference in the warranty times between Canada and the U S ? heh ?
That's one sweet warranty in the US!
What do you think, how long the 1.6 engine going to last for that large heavy mass???????? Of course they won't mention that, not their money you will spend on repair.
You do realize that the electric motor will be assisting the engine right? So the engine isn't taking the entire load. Shouldn't be an issue of durability and if there is I'm sure they will extend the warranty like they always do.
Being obsessed with hybrids and EVs is for the coastal elites.
EVs yes, hybrids are pretty mainstream now, affordable (as much as gas models anyways) and lowers fuel costs considerably. On Toyota's ECVT hybrids you also have higher reliability then gas model equivilants with no starter, alternator, less engine and brake usage.
@@James-il3tq there is still a pretty big affordability gap as I see it. They're either only available as brand new models, or lack of availability (aka no discounts at all, and possibly a wait-list), or a Toyota, or some combination of the three. Unless you do big miles I don't see how the numbers work. I would assert that buying a 50k minivan to save on gas is a rich person's game.
1.6 ltr? It’s a race to the bottom. No thank you.
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Encore le même système hybride WoW kia et Hyundai sont vraiment des dans la cave pour le développement des hybrides qui plus est est très ordinaire comme les autre coréennes ou presque . Technologie d’une autre époque. Ils ne développent rien. De la médiocre technologie, mais ça coûte pas cher à produire mais c’est un. Éhicule mal adapté et ça va sauter. Vive Toyota et Honda de vrai hybrides. Hyundai et Kia c’est e la coche étiez.
I don’t know who is buying all these Kia/Hyundai crap boxes…. I guess there is a market for this stuff, like Dodges I suppose. Disposable products
I won’t watch this. Kia screwed over too many people for me to care.
But you come to comment anyway. And if giving thousands of engines away for free and extended the warranty on multiple vehicles for multiple reasons is screwing someone then I'll take a good screwing anytime.
@@stevenstewart1308 you feel better now?
@@clayton8465 do you feel better about making your comment? You say you don't care so you won't watch but still comment which shows that you do care. But you probably don't own a Kia or Hyundai and have never been "screwed over" by either brand but just jump on the hate bandwagon.
toyota hybrid is a better design cvt is not regular hybrid with metal bands but gear driven design . i dont like the kia little motor turbo charged design , carbon build up . kia looks good good job
Definitely expect higher reliability and resales from the Sienna but this is a nice looking and driving hybrid for those who prioritize the that over long term reliability and resale value.