We Need Better Maps of Our Oceans

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  • Опубліковано 28 жов 2021
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  • @drane10
    @drane10 2 роки тому +1224

    This channel needs more views, the production is amazing

    • @Arjan_dv
      @Arjan_dv 2 роки тому +17

      they have 600k...

    • @NeinTeaAteKay
      @NeinTeaAteKay 2 роки тому +21

      To be fair this video barely touches the subject, most of it is talking about rubbish in the ocean, that much deviation to a different topic probably loses viewers and makes many not return, I won't be checking out anymore videos by this channel after this one because of this

    • @jaredf6205
      @jaredf6205 2 роки тому +19

      @@NeinTeaAteKay lol, don’t be so dramatic. The whole point of the video is for the team seas fundraiser, every channel like this on UA-cam is making a video about it.

    • @alvarodm
      @alvarodm 2 роки тому +7

      @@naq211 Oh really? Show me what you can do then. Try to make better content than this channel. Then talk.

    • @alvarodm
      @alvarodm 2 роки тому +3

      @@NeinTeaAteKay So dramatic just because of one video that deviated a bit from the original topic.

  • @simonmultiverse6349
    @simonmultiverse6349 2 роки тому +173

    Other reasons for mapping the ocean bed:
    Where currents go, in particular the difference between a current on the sea bed sticking to the sea bed and leaving the sea bed depends crucially on small details of the geometry. A sharp ridge on the sea bed may well cause the current to leave the sea bed and go off (upwards) in a different direction. Where the currents go, the heat goes. The oceans are a massive convector of heat around the planet. Ergo, understanding the geometry of the sea bed is crucial to understanding the resulting thermal dynamics of the sea and atmosphere. This would lead to understanding the world's temperature behaviour which is a crucial topic.
    Scanning the sea bed will also find lots of shipwrecks. Some would be for historical interest (results of sea battles in various wars). Some would inform our understanding of why ships sink - there are freak waves which are not necessarily understood. Some ships disappear without trace, and finding them would:
    (a) inform the relatives of the dead;
    (b) give some information to the insurance companies, e.g. Lloyds of London, a massive shipping insurer;
    (c) possibly inform ship design (in that "freak waves" might be more common than we currently think) therefore improving the safety of shipping.
    Let's not forget missing aircraft.

    • @simonmultiverse6349
      @simonmultiverse6349 Рік тому +1

      @tst ccnt I don't want to say it's aliens, but....
      *A L I E N S*

    • @DR-54
      @DR-54 Рік тому +4

      those freak waves are mathematically predicted in our wave models, so we have a fair understanding of their occurrence and that they're a property of waves themselves without regard for underlying topography.

    • @yulianloaiza
      @yulianloaiza Рік тому +1

      How often would we have to remap the seabed? The data would be outdated after a certain time right?

    • @simonmultiverse6349
      @simonmultiverse6349 Рік тому +2

      @@yulianloaiza We already have maps of the land which is approximately the same level of difficulty. That's how satellites can tell if a volcano has got a bit taller recently, suggesting that it's about to go BOOOOM!
      Yes, the seabed does change as currents move sediment around. That probably needs lots of underwater drones measuring the shape of the seabed.

    • @liukang3545
      @liukang3545 Рік тому

      what a nerd

  • @admiralcat3809
    @admiralcat3809 2 роки тому +132

    80% of the ocean is unexplored*
    People: "Oh that means megalodon/some impossibly huge monstrosity is hiding down there!"

    • @coreyk288
      @coreyk288 2 роки тому +15

      I imagine how interesting it would be to find islands of isolated people, that somehow never knew about us or at least have not seen other humans for thousands of years and seeing what their cultures would be like.

    • @James.light7982
      @James.light7982 2 роки тому +35

      @@coreyk288 look up the sentinelese

    • @terawatt1
      @terawatt1 2 роки тому +34

      @@coreyk288 it's the ocean FLOOR that is unmapped - if there was land, satellites would have found it by now, as neo explains, if you've watched the video, above water level satellite imagery has a very strong resolution

    • @jrloulanza6534
      @jrloulanza6534 3 місяці тому

      Sounds like a myth.

  • @Lazer-bp9lf
    @Lazer-bp9lf 2 роки тому +239

    Let's take a moment to thank and be grateful for people like Neo for giving us such informative and well made content like this for free.

  • @ESC_jackqulen
    @ESC_jackqulen 2 роки тому +423

    I subscribed to neo a long time ago because of its insanely amazing cartography and graphics to explain current world topics.
    This topic of this video is different from what neo usually does. It goes into a deep complexity of oceanography and cartography (reminds me of my uni classes!)
    While I didn't persue a career in cartography, I wish this video can persuade someone to do so :D
    (and donate to the cause, of course!)

  • @g-rated3514
    @g-rated3514 2 роки тому +40

    I swear if any other channel made this I would struggle to be fully engaged, but with your skilled writing, editing, pacing and delivery make it so easy and enjoyable to stay tuned in! Keep it up!

  • @seymourbutts4654
    @seymourbutts4654 2 роки тому +9

    Reminds me of messages in a bottle. I remember hearing stories about people finding them thousands of miles away and decades after they were cast in the ocean.

  • @alexties6933
    @alexties6933 2 роки тому +36

    I love your videos, but i think you should create a sources document, similar to how kurzgesagt does

  • @kareebhasnat
    @kareebhasnat 2 роки тому +105

    As amazing as the project is, I still think Mark Rober & Mr Beast should make it clear that even 30 Million pounds of trash is nothing compared to the actual scale. A survey shows that 17 Billion Pounds of trash end up in the oceans every year (500 times more than what they will remove). So besides encouraging people to donate to team seas, they should also encourage them not to stop there.

    • @allanshpeley4284
      @allanshpeley4284 11 місяців тому +4

      Who the heck is dumping 17 billion pounds of trash in the oceans each year? Maybe that's what we should focus on.

    • @prowoto
      @prowoto 10 місяців тому +7

      @@allanshpeley4284the 8 billion people around the world are think about the weight of all the trash you handle every year and where that trash is going

    • @justinblin
      @justinblin 10 місяців тому +4

      @@allanshpeley4284mostly when people that don’t have garbage disposal options, such as in rural parts of developing countries, put trash near rivers, which eventually washes the trash out into the ocean. While telling people to stop can help, it is difficult to make a difference if people don’t have access to functioning trash infrastructure like garbage collectors, sanitary landfills, and/or incineration plants.

    • @kareebhasnat
      @kareebhasnat 10 місяців тому +1

      @@zakae6hdt7 1 Billion = 1000 Million

  • @TheGroovyGuitarDude
    @TheGroovyGuitarDude 2 роки тому +6

    Incredible video, project, and information. Thanks so much for making this! 🌊

  • @dirkkruse1199
    @dirkkruse1199 2 роки тому +3

    This is really well made! Storyarch, intend and sense is so well communicates. Bravo 👏🏼

  • @screenname1
    @screenname1 2 роки тому +28

    I always thought the criss cross lines on Google maps were meant to obscure the data. Why mess things up with an in complete dataset? There should be a way to remove that layer and revert to the low res bathymetry, which btw reveals much about the Earth's recent history.

  • @diezel5267
    @diezel5267 Рік тому

    I love your videos and your narration! Such great quality! Thank you!!

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 2 роки тому +66

    One of those gaps probably has Rapture hiding in it.

  • @Xsqllr
    @Xsqllr 10 місяців тому

    I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Ya know, I watch some other content creators that do research / have passion on par with this channel, and I've noticed that I finish watching this channels videos feeling better than I did before. I'm not more worried or scared, I'm inspired.

  • @Versedyoutube
    @Versedyoutube 2 роки тому +4

    Incredibly important video, this. Great work neo.

  • @user-bp8yg3ko1r
    @user-bp8yg3ko1r 2 роки тому +3

    Very well-made, amazing content!

  • @aGr3atD4y
    @aGr3atD4y Рік тому

    Your videos are so high quality and well made!

  • @CookRugbyCinemaTravel
    @CookRugbyCinemaTravel 2 роки тому +2

    i love this channel and i love that the narrator is dyslexic , I truly do...Well done sir, pave the way for the others to show that we are all part of a great community

  • @nApucco
    @nApucco 2 роки тому +38

    I love and respect that you actually created an indepth video about an interesting topic for this fundraiser. Your channel never disappoints with its great and fresh content.

  • @DoctorTauri
    @DoctorTauri 2 роки тому +15

    0:55 crazy how the unmapped parts are where Atlantis was rumored to exist.

    • @insyirahhalim9940
      @insyirahhalim9940 2 роки тому +2

      now thats a cool theory

    • @screenname1
      @screenname1 2 роки тому +1

      The mid Atlantic ridge. Would be interesting to see high resolution maps, which btw probably do exist.

  • @w8te309
    @w8te309 Місяць тому

    I’m always excited when this guy pumps outa video 😁

  • @SkyLiink
    @SkyLiink 2 роки тому +6

    I think you might have some grounding issues from your power outlet, might cause the noise we can hear when u talk.
    I would just call up the power company and see what price they take for the job of fixing it.
    If thats not the problem, a "Cloudlifter" could solve it pretty easily as well.
    Great video btw!! Love the production!
    (And im sorry for pointing out the noise, im a sound engineer, so that stuff is just suuper annoying to deal with)

  • @stoyandimitrov255
    @stoyandimitrov255 2 роки тому +17

    I see Neo's vid, i watch it ASAP

  • @DJ-oz6ee
    @DJ-oz6ee Рік тому +2

    This video is as impressive as it is informative. In weaving complex ideas into layman, the viewer is heavily considered here.
    As soon as a question entered my head - the narrator began to unpack relevant info at exactly the right time. Well done - thank you!

  • @johnpeters8060
    @johnpeters8060 2 роки тому +1

    Fantastic video. So much quality info!

  • @harrietharlow9929
    @harrietharlow9929 2 роки тому +11

    It really is stunning to see how much has been done, but even more, what remains to be done. It's also shocking to see how a piece of plastic can travel before wandering into the NAGP. It's discouraging to see how we are trashing our seas. It makes me determined to try to eliminate even more plastic. Sadder yet to realize a lot of this has happened over the past 20-30 years of my life.

  • @WoddCar
    @WoddCar 2 роки тому +3

    My subbox is now completely flooded with the team seas videos now lol

  • @only1raay
    @only1raay 2 роки тому +5

    Wow this video really details how it’s we need to do wayyy more than what we are doing. I never knew that 70% of trash was found on the seabed. This is a very complex problem we’ve found ourselves in!

  • @eugene9089
    @eugene9089 2 роки тому +3

    Really love watching his videos.

  • @omri9982
    @omri9982 2 роки тому +3

    I love what you guys are doing for our planet.

  • @thangvel5889
    @thangvel5889 2 роки тому +1

    As usual good presentation NEO team...,

  • @luminadoDoBronx
    @luminadoDoBronx 2 роки тому +2

    Amazing work thank you

  • @CarrieAnn77
    @CarrieAnn77 2 роки тому +5

    Much respect to everything that you are trying to do! The bare minimum, I hope everyone likes and subscribes this video. And if they want to make a bigger impact- then donate to the cause. Thank you for all that you're trying to do!!!

  • @FIRE_STORMFOX-3692
    @FIRE_STORMFOX-3692 2 роки тому +2

    Finnaly! I used to question this since a kid and got told that, how is that even possible if we have satellites and ships that can stand storms? Well now makes sense

  • @chirag.r
    @chirag.r 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent💯💯👏👏.. As always... Love from India🇮🇳.. Neo.. Keep it up!!

  • @Luke..luke..luke..
    @Luke..luke..luke.. 2 роки тому +1

    I learnt this in high school geography. Still blows my mind

  • @Anthony-nd6vk
    @Anthony-nd6vk 2 роки тому +1

    So informative. Super high quality

  • @filipbujaroski9221
    @filipbujaroski9221 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this amazing content

  • @johannes7434
    @johannes7434 2 роки тому +2

    This feels like one of those things that future generations will have and be confused that we didn't have it yet. Like how we look back 400-500 years now and people haven't discovered the Americas or various other places and had no clue what was out there. We think we know and have discovered so much, but haven't even mapped our oceans. Insane to think about it.

  • @gabrielfair724
    @gabrielfair724 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for making this video. For some reason i don't see the donate progress bar under you video. I see it on other videos

  • @labfixit
    @labfixit 2 роки тому +4

    I would be willing to bet that US and Russian navies have an extensive database of sub surface maps and temperatures over the decades.

  • @jjeverson2269
    @jjeverson2269 2 роки тому +2

    The algorithm needs to pick up this channel. Amazing work

  • @metalema6
    @metalema6 Рік тому +9

    These charity projects always end up being scams with the organizers keeping the money.

    • @fivemint1429
      @fivemint1429 Рік тому +4

      Yea sadly ocean clean up is not that good of an organization but ocean conservancy is more reliable

  • @laurenzliepold8534
    @laurenzliepold8534 2 роки тому +2

    10:30 That is absolutely mindblowing!

  • @tuckergary1516
    @tuckergary1516 2 роки тому +1

    wonderful new chanel find. we know more about the moon than our oceans.

  • @supergamerpro5233
    @supergamerpro5233 2 роки тому +1

    Do you have a podcast, i could fall a sleep easier with this calm voice💯

  • @Paytonscott886
    @Paytonscott886 2 роки тому +12

    Isn’t sonar like really harmful to whales and other animals that use echolocation for communication?

    • @aakksshhaayy
      @aakksshhaayy 2 роки тому +1

      no you're wrong, stop spreading misinformation.

  • @MultiformeIngegno
    @MultiformeIngegno Рік тому

    Fantastic video!

  • @spiko-ou3bp
    @spiko-ou3bp 2 роки тому

    Found your channel just now
    Absolutely brilliant I love channels like these, had a quick look through what videos you've made they're all such good topics
    Instantly subscribed

  • @HowieIsaacks
    @HowieIsaacks Рік тому +2

    The US Navy has high quality maps. VERY hight quality. I've seen them. There's no way we would operate submarines deep at high speeds without them.

  • @greenhat7618
    @greenhat7618 Рік тому +2

    Sonar is also incredibly disruptive and could even kill whales and other sea animals that uses echo location themselves and thus is sensitive to sound

  • @izuix5629
    @izuix5629 8 місяців тому +2

    What would you do if you discovered a new oil reserve on the ocean floor?

  • @dmac7128
    @dmac7128 Рік тому

    the depth resolution of sonar when mapping deep water is also limited by the accuracy of its sound speed input. Your typical echo sounder uses a mean sound speed in its depth calculations. In shallow water the difference between measured depth and actual depth is small. But as depth increases, the difference increases. I would imagine there are more advanced echo sounders have sound speed profiles used as inputs and could provide corrected depth. The would require frequent sampling of the water column though.

  • @17eli187
    @17eli187 2 роки тому +3

    It's so weird that scientists can have a look at the outer spheres of space but yet we haven't explored the planet we habitat...

    • @texasforever7887
      @texasforever7887 10 місяців тому +2

      Could be something to do with all that water in the way.

  • @CraftyF0X
    @CraftyF0X 2 роки тому

    Good video! at 11:40 Im pretty sure you meant to say reconnaissance orbiter instead of renaissance orbiter though :D

  • @loops4361
    @loops4361 2 роки тому +2

    My soul shattered 5:26 :( there is no way we could get that 70% out of the ocean

  • @LuisOfficial
    @LuisOfficial 2 роки тому +2

    Well this was more informative than I thought

  • @Jernofenz
    @Jernofenz 2 роки тому +4

    Omg this is crazy.. i got like crazy notifications from everyone

  • @zaxapitsa
    @zaxapitsa 2 роки тому +1

    great job. thank you.

  • @Kazyumi
    @Kazyumi Рік тому +2

    I could swear they were able to read license plates from space?

  • @Alexanderbuilds2001
    @Alexanderbuilds2001 2 роки тому +3

    I would love to drain the oceans for a small period of time just to see what has been hidden or lost.

    • @koharumi1
      @koharumi1 2 роки тому +1

      There is a show called drain the oceans.

  • @Kirby-Krios
    @Kirby-Krios 2 роки тому

    interesting. Do more sciences based videos? would add variety to your usual geopolitcs and construction stuff

  • @MaxBaxPamparapa
    @MaxBaxPamparapa 9 місяців тому

    you should have also mentioned LiDAR, a technique similar to sonar, where instead of sound it uses lasers

  • @peterdore2572
    @peterdore2572 2 роки тому +1

    wow. Thank you. The first well explained use of the term Garbage Patch.

  • @switzerland
    @switzerland 2 роки тому +1

    That video was really really good.

  • @texasforever7887
    @texasforever7887 10 місяців тому

    0:20 You mean available to the public. The US and Soviet Navies conducted vast and still classified mapping of the ocean floor.

  • @Puddlef1sh
    @Puddlef1sh 2 роки тому

    I love that he has to put in captions.

  • @Headwyres
    @Headwyres 2 роки тому +1

    1:45 better this way. It makes collecting garbage is quite easy comparing other vast area because you don’t waste much resoureces in terms of human power and equipment....

  • @richardgreen7225
    @richardgreen7225 2 роки тому +42

    Tax the kinds of plastics that end up in oceans at a dollar a pound.
    Most users will quickly switch to other materials.
    - We used paper, glass, cloth, and "tin cans" for packaging before plastics became ubiquitous. These materials were relatively easy to recycle. I am old enough (77) to remember when plastic was rarely seen. We can simply do without plastic packaging. We can also do without plastic fish nets - having done so for thousands of years.

    • @opachki7607
      @opachki7607 2 роки тому +7

      greedy companys nerver change the material because plastic is very cheap

    • @lizc6393
      @lizc6393 2 роки тому

      People like you give me hope, thank you Mr. Green.

    • @lizc6393
      @lizc6393 2 роки тому

      @@opachki7607 This. This right here is precisely the issue.

    • @lizc6393
      @lizc6393 2 роки тому +2

      @Hussain Oh they have, there are just close to no legislators that are in the politics game to actually improve the world. Most of them are in it for power first, money second. Total fucking sociopaths.

    • @Kaiserland111
      @Kaiserland111 2 роки тому +3

      What you really need is not a tax, but an efficient recycling process that allows us to turn plastic waste into useful products. Only an economically viable solution will actually work, because most of us watching this video live in capitalist countries, which economic model prevents non-economical solutions from being anything more than a Band-Aid covering the problem.

  • @porthose2002
    @porthose2002 Рік тому +12

    I think it would be interesting to investigate why some of those densely scanned areas exist on your map. The search for MH370 along the 7th arc was easy to spot, but that caused me to wonder about many of the others. the density around the coastlines are obvious, but I'd love to know why some of those other big blotches that are seemingly out in the middle of nowhere were scanned. Is there a database or resource that explains any of this?

    • @neddyladdy
      @neddyladdy Рік тому +2

      There is an entire discipline on the subject. It is called economics.

    • @Samuel_J1
      @Samuel_J1 Рік тому +4

      Like Neo said, some of those could be for resource exploration and exploitation, beyond oil and gas. Seabed mineral deposits are highly valuable because they're relatively easy to get to without the visible ecological impact of say strip/open-cast mining. Missing plane/boat searches will account for some, and presumably also fishing areas.

    • @AllAmericanGuyExpert
      @AllAmericanGuyExpert Рік тому +1

      Yes, the resource is books found in a library. You go to one and research it by reading the book. There's even some periodicals for digesting smaller subjects.

  • @The3Lego3Freak
    @The3Lego3Freak 2 роки тому

    Love Neo!

  • @xcissors
    @xcissors 10 місяців тому

    Can you make a video about how you make the map sections of cities that look like drone flight?

  • @NoxAimsAndMakesEdits
    @NoxAimsAndMakesEdits 2 роки тому +2

    "lets zoom out a bit"
    also 3 seconds later: weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  • @Aninkovsky
    @Aninkovsky 2 роки тому

    Somehow, I missed this video. Although regularly watch neo videos...

  • @PeymanSayyadi
    @PeymanSayyadi 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing video.

  • @LSolomon13
    @LSolomon13 Рік тому +4

    The production value for this is fantastic, and I love this video in every way except for the "f" sound for every "th" from the narrator. Its driving me crazy how he pronounces some things

    • @dam1106
      @dam1106 10 місяців тому +1

      yes, I was thinking the same, I have now watched a few of his videos and enjoy the content he does, but I so wish he would stop saying 'f' instead of 'th'

  • @jordanbrancato7026
    @jordanbrancato7026 2 роки тому

    cool where they did this. did they attempt to clean while they did this?

  • @PhilJonesIII
    @PhilJonesIII Рік тому

    It looks like we also have a 'US Weather and Oceanography Authority Tracker Garbage patch' as well.

  • @recration
    @recration 2 роки тому

    For anybody wondering what channel the black C/T logo at the beginning is, it is the cult tennis channel. One of the best channels out there.

  • @konigdavid714
    @konigdavid714 2 роки тому +1

    good intentions, I like that. It gives me faith in humanity back

  • @SerenityReceiver
    @SerenityReceiver 2 роки тому +1

    Would appreciate if you list your sources in the description. 👍🏽

  • @tronlegacy6596
    @tronlegacy6596 2 роки тому +5

    we as humans are digging our own grave... kudos for making this video & educating people about this issue.............

  • @katherinewarren4543
    @katherinewarren4543 Місяць тому

    I wasnt expecting it to be over 15%

  • @josepablolunasanchez1283
    @josepablolunasanchez1283 Рік тому

    Garbage clusters in the sea is serving as artificial floating islands for species that would normally would only live in the coasts. It may allow species to spread across the world, with the advantages and problems that could mean.

  • @RichardDrinkPepsi
    @RichardDrinkPepsi 2 роки тому +4

    Really nice video :) It's impressive to think about that there more we know, the more we realize that we don't know anything. This world is full of information and things to learn. We humans have just began to explore... who knows what we will learn

  • @billedmonds7958
    @billedmonds7958 2 роки тому +2

    You can be assured that the US navy have it mapped pretty well.

  • @blablaelgore
    @blablaelgore Рік тому

    El rio ozama de santo domingo al min 14:00, no me esperaba ver aquí esto no.

  • @syrilsabu
    @syrilsabu 2 роки тому

    Let this video get more reach and take this into consideration

  • @omri9982
    @omri9982 2 роки тому +1

    Go TeamSeas!

  • @solanaleung6113
    @solanaleung6113 2 роки тому +6

    Thank you for saying fishing nets are the majority of trash instead of some bs plastic straw 🤦🏻‍♀️ I’m so done seeing attention being drawn away from the actual problem

  • @MemesnShet
    @MemesnShet 2 роки тому

    Damn it would a cool movie plot that they finally mapped the whole world sea floor and then notice some of the "mountains" moving over time O__O

  • @sanjuandedios4179
    @sanjuandedios4179 2 роки тому

    Please do one that features the Philippine (Benham) Rise, and why China is so intent on exploring there.

  • @DimaSilviuAlexandru
    @DimaSilviuAlexandru 2 роки тому

    Amazing video! Does anyone know what song starts playing at 11:18?

  • @MahBor
    @MahBor Рік тому

    11:16 it's the Mars *Reconnaissance* Orbiter

  • @Qwerty-uiop
    @Qwerty-uiop Рік тому

    Another reason for mapping the ocean: to find that man who is lost at sea

  • @KinOksana
    @KinOksana 2 роки тому

    Could you please share what music did you use in this video?

  • @g5400
    @g5400 2 роки тому

    What's the music you use in the beginning?

  • @kahhengyeong7947
    @kahhengyeong7947 2 роки тому +26

    The "garbage patch" effect could be the reason why MH370 was and maybe will not be found.
    But still, I'm hopeful it will someday would be discovered.

    • @Pushed2InsanityYT
      @Pushed2InsanityYT 2 роки тому +1

      Probably circulating in the Indian Ocean patch.

    • @brad9529
      @brad9529 2 роки тому

      I think it landed somewhere and the people were disappeared

    • @geralds1500
      @geralds1500 2 роки тому +8

      ​@@brad9529 There are confirmed pieces of wreckage from an underwater crash.
      Unless the pilots turned around to go back over land, happened to find a spot in the wilderness that was a good runway, landed the plane, killed all 237 other people without leaving a shred of evidence, got back on board, and then flew the plane into the exact spot where it would have crashed naturally, it was not a conspiracy.

  • @lamdo3003
    @lamdo3003 2 роки тому +2

    You need team lands, team soil, team water, team forests too.