They wish to progress from the current state to a state where women and children are not being raped in mass numbers. That is regressive to a noncy lefty, progressive to a straight conservative.
I imagine it must be like the progressive party in my country: when they talk about progress, they are referring to economic progress, not exactly social progress, since they are a right-wing party.
Isn’t it the same is most European countrys atm baring a few like Denmark Poland etc, failures of the traditional centre right and centre left to deal with issues such as migration and other issues properly have pushed people to new parties
The key point in Poland and Denmark is they had very low migration from outside the EU. If the left wing parties decide to open the borders they will swing back right soon enough.
@@jonathan2847 denmark had/has very high immigration relative to their population, it's just that unlike other eu countries, they chose to actually integrate people properly instead of making permanent slums and ghettoes for them which inevitably leads to crime, and it's clearly working since it's resulted in a big decrease in crime, and since people like you don't even realize that denmark even has high immigration
Because the average voter is undereducated, doesn't understand history, and is, baseline, a racist? This is a failure of democracy at the end of the day.
Norwegian here. Energy politics, economical situation and increasing numbers of taxes and failed green projects makes the purchasing ability of the general inhabitant under severe pressure and morale is absolutely devestated.
Every-fucking-body thinks they are losing purchasing ability and under severe pressure. Even when the numbers clearly show the opposite. If fucking Norway, after an immense extra revenue from gas exports, thinks that they are struggling, what is the rest of the world gonna do?
Energy especially is a huge sore point for most people. Norway has historically had extremely cheap hydro electricity, but a few years ago, the grid was connected to the european market. This caused the prizes to 10x, and when combined with a huge post-covid inflation, the cost of living has skyrocketed over only the last 5 years.
everybody says norway is rich they are taxed like fuck and they keep saving money in the sovereign wealth fund. i hope their grandchildren turn it into a harem and party everyday. spend some money, cut some tax, quit subsidizing european energy. norway would be better combining with the uk on energy and defence. to hold leverage over the EU. now that would be smart
US expat in Norway here. Cost of living is inexcusable. To be a nation that sits on not just one, but TWO jackpots (oil and phosphorous), I just don’t understand why it’s so difficult to buy things anymore. Norvega cheese is now 139kr, up from 90 just 4 years ago
I saw the cheese at 149 last week, at a normal store. I cannot afford proper food and clothing for my kids anymore. The guy in the thumbnail of this video is one of the reasons.
Combination of Norwegian protectionism of the agricultural sector and the Grocery Cartel having a stranglehold on the local market to the point of stagnation. It is one of those paradoxical oddities for a nation that relies on trade through necessity. Norway should be importing a lot more food. Local produce is good, fresher, but it is unsustainable to rely only on this.
Problem is not the prices, but that they don't inform about the reason. Butter was the one that went 2x over a short period of time, so clearly there is something related to the material in cheese and butter production.
@@Ozzianman no, not protectionism, but false competition. And you should not import or export food unless you want to live like a bottom 90% Venezuelan. or a Cuban for that matter.
People's memory seem to be failing. FRP has been in the government before. They made a big huff and puff getting in, but gave up and left fairly quickly, leaving the rest of the coalition to scramble. They're an oposition party at best and usually not good at leading anything. Most of the time they just end up leaving if they can't get their way.
There is a difference between leaving the coalition because your coalition members isn't doing what you want and not doing anything. If anything, FrP has showed that they're no all talk and are willing to fight for what they're saying. Whether or not what their policies are a well thought out is another story. As you're saying, as an opposition party most of their policies aren't all that major, as they focus on getting rid of sugar taxes and allowing people to buy alcohol in supermarkets. They're going to have to change a lot if they want to lead a nation.
Populists will do what populists do, over promise and under deliver and they use wedge issues to turn the knife in whatever party is currently in power.
@jeppepuus Sounds pretty scary, just see what happened with all the justice ministers from FRP, failure after failure and we saw them choose virtue politics over the people they were elected to serve.
yea, if they really spend more of their SWFs money and choose to invest in local infrustructure using that same money, its a very slippery slope that might slowly eat away at norway from the inside
Depends if you're spending on recurring costs or one time costs. If you're spending to feed the people you're going to spend forever, but if you're building infrastructure you only have to worry about the much smaller maintenance cost.
Oil money being ring fenced for productive infrastructure is fine. It's when it's used to fund social welfare spending, or projects that provide no return on investment when it becomes an issue, as these provide no future value.
@@danunpronounceable8559 There is no difference there. Social welfare is a fixed costs in the budget. You have to pay housing, food and medical for people that can't do it on their own, unless you just don't give a shit about your population, like the US. So if you spend more of the fund in infrastructure you have more infrastructure. If you spend more into the social systems with it, then the regular state budget has now more money to spend into infrastructure, you end up with the same outcome. Also there is no strict division between lasting spending and consummative. Spending more into education would be a recurring costs, but the value is a higher productivity of the population. Which can be much more valuable than a few new bridges.
You forgot the most important reason FrP is so far ahead on the poles: the price of energy in Norway. After we joined Acer and built cables to the continent and the UK our prices on energy has risen dramatically, and the only party willing to do anything about it is FrP. We used to have prices around 10 to 20 øre per kW/h, now the price regularly stays around 80 to 120 øre, that, including VAT, taxes for the net grid and what not, will easily see prices reach well over 150 øre per kW/h, which most Norwegians are seriously mad about.
FrP was literally in government and actively, vocally, supported joining both Acer and building energy cables to Germany and the UK, voting in favour of it repeatedly in parliament. The current energy crisis is a DIRECT result of policies they supported and implemented when last in government. The only parties which opposed Acer and the cables were the Centre Party, Socialist Left, Red Party and Christian People’s Party
@ Yes, but thankfully they are listening to people and soon understood they had screwed up. The good thing with populist parties is that they actually listen to people, a hated thing among mainstream parties.
Add that in Norway we depend on electricity for everything from heating to cooking, unlike Europe, which uses gas. The only alternative for heating is fire wood, and it is difficult when you are sleeping or at work.
It's funny and also sad how after a dramatic increase in energy prices due to terrible policy decisions and inflation, Norwegian electricity is still at less than half the price of what we get in the UK 😢
What so stupid about actually that, and your statement is very correct. But FrP was in the government and voted YES to building that cable. They are also responsible d they would do anything different.
Fascinating how a lot of democracies have similar trends in who gets elected. Typically when the economy is struggling or there is a lot of strife, people will vote conservatives, but when the economy is doing well and/or there is a lot of civility on both sides, people will vote progressives. This isn't always the case, but it is a trend that I've noticed. In my own country before all of the international strife occurred post 2016 (thanks america) we would typically vote progressives when we need more government spending on infrastructure, and conservatives when progressives began to spend too much. Nowadays it seems like political polarization has began to increase once again and people are refusing to listen to each other, and so more extreme left or right wing parties are gaining popularity.
The recent correlation of voter sentiments across so many countries is better explained, I think, by the prior governments’ coordinated adoption of the same idiotic and unpopular policies. I don’t think there’s a previous example of such coordinated policy-making, and so also no previous example of the simultaneous rejection.
In the United States this has had the opposite trend, every recession occurred under the Republicans and subsequently elected a Democratic president until they lost their mandate and the Republicans would come in again. I think that mostly democracies punish the party in power when the economy crashes.
I was just in Oslo and saw the Norwegian PM surrounded by paparazzi coming out of a hotel. Wasn't sure what all the drama was about. What a great video and well timed video.
0:53 Oh boy! The Norwegian parliament charts are still cursed. Also: national electoral districts are not the same as fylke. Fylke is a geographic area that are govern by a regional government and are an administrative level between national and municipal government.
They used to cover the same geographic areas, but after many "fylker" were merged in 2018 and 2020 the electoral districts remained the same. This is due to article 57 of the constitution; which states that the country should be divided into 19 electoral districts. Thus there would need to be a constitutional amendment to make them match, which the government likely would not have managed to pass through parliament if they wanted to.
@@alekxs2k551 Yeah. The downside with the districts are that it gives a lot of power to parties that are extremely popular in one area while making it more difficult for parties with popularity more evenly spread out to get representation. Getting 1% of the vote in every district wouldn't give any seat even if it would make one deserving of 1 or 2 seats with pure PR. So it is a system that somewhat favors the established parties, so any changes there can be difficult
@@steffplaysmapping1104 It's an oversimplification to say the system favors established parties or urban areas. Norway uses the modified Sainte-Laguë method, which ensures proportional representation. While district mandates give some weight to regional popularity, this is balanced by leveling seats (utjevningsmandater), which ensures national proportionality. Also, the weight of votes in smaller districts (like Finnmark) is higher due to the inclusion of an area factor. This isn't about favoring cities or rural areas but ensuring fair representation across a geographically diverse country. Small parties like Rødt and MDG have gained seats, showing the system isn't skewed against less established parties. The design aims to balance population density and geography, not to entrench larger parties.
2:19 : 'The New Right' is no longer a party in Denmark, but there is a similar party called 'Danish Democrats', though its firmly in the Blue block. The Alternative is in the red one. ATM there is a center bloc consisting of 'social democrats, ventre and the moderates'
in denmark the situation is different, your socialist party recognized that migration is the main issue and acted accordingly, being tougher than the so called center right (but not quite "right" at all)
It's the same throughout europe. Migration - specifically from muslim countries - is making society a divided, dangerous and broken place. People don't want this for their children....
Yeah, fortunately for Norway - Denmark has blocked a lot, and Sweden took the main bulk. Norway's got a lot of productive and good immigrants from Sweden and Poland instead.
migration is not the issue. funny how there's always much talk and divide about muslim migrants, but nobody minds the migrants from all other countries in the world?
@@Mosern1977 they didn't seem very productive when I was in Oslo 4 months ago ... Norway seemed to have exactly the same issues as elsewhere in western Europe.
Where does that migration come from? What caused the migration in the first place? Do you think that these people fled their homes just because they wanted to?
I love how every time TLDR posts a video about Norway lately the comment section quickly fills up with a) Norwegians correcting or "correcting" the video's main points and b) non-Norwegians claiming that Frp is far from hard right and/or that the country is being ruined by a "wave of Muslim migration"
Neoliberal policies are ruining Norway, like all Western countries. But mass immigration and it's consequences are also real, like in most Western countries.
Yes. Even for FRP which is literally obsessed with immigrants they spent relatively little space on it in their first draft for a 2025-2029 party plan. They spent more space talking about workers from the EEA. Some people in Norway care, but I definitely think it's a minority. However they're still far right and I would be worried if they actually got a majority of votes in an election.
If you think FRP is far-right you should compare them to "similar" parties. If anything, id say FRP is as far right as Democrats are in the US. They have some outlier members, but their policies can not be categorized as far right.
As a non-Norwegian who has family in Norway, Norway is certainly getting its own version of the "grooming gangs" but since Norwegian women and children don't accept the offer the groomers are more like "pouncers". Violent rape has risen to all time highs and is rising exponentially.
@@Scybertine Rødt is polling higher than the Greens, the Liberal party (Venstre), Christian Party, and about the same as the farmers party. Rødt is polling higher now than at last national election as well as last local election. Their polling has been trending upward steadily for 10 years now. So I don't see how you can say that people are tired of them.
Only critique on the video is when you said “the stortinget”. If you want to say “the” before Stortinget, you would have to say “The Storting” because in, most cases, when Norwegians add an “et” at the end of a noun it is the same thing as when English speakers add «the» befare s noun.
- The water reservoirs are full, the gas price is low, and someone is sitting and manipulating the prices. We are all being deceived because Norwegian politicians are so naive. rating companies from abroad who sit and speculate in Norwegian electricity, and that they manipulate prices by agreeing to buy so much electricity that there is a shortage. Norwegians have -10 to -35*c cold winters and cannot have electricty that cost this much... It cost 0.02kr to produce, but we pay on average 1-1.5kr becuse of of powers outside of our borders...
@@oslonafo Do you know what average means? And if you did not know, you can only buy spot price now... At this moment it cost 90,2øre and average today is 115,1øre. Those who live 500meter north of me pay half that price becuse of the sone changes from 1 to 2... Please tell me why the price have been high the last years...
A note, most Norwegians are not turning aganinst the Labour party because of scandals, but rather because of the increased cost of living, with not enough salary growth.
@@heart4740 Norwegian private consume is the highest in Europe, except Luxembourg. In fact private consume in Norway is 24% above average in the 27 EU memberstates. Norwegians are particularly spending money on furniture and interiour decoration. Pitty the poor norwegian.
As a Norwegian I am really done with Jonas Gahr Støre he has done absolutely nothing only bullshiting about what he is going to do. The man is from a rich family and has 60 million in he’s account and he lives in the richest part of Oslo while he is in AP. He should have gone to the left side of politics instead of acting like a capitalist that wants communism 🤦♂️
The real simple TLDR of this is that the Labour party started their current term with the slogan "now its the everyday peoples turn" promising betterment for the everyday man. Instead everything has got worse for everyone and Labour is known for loving buraucracy similar to democrats in the US, meaning necessary changes to better the situation is slow to non existant. They also managed to keep unfavoring taxes for industry and business meaning literally no one has been made happier during their term, so then you have a "the grass is greener on the other side" situation .
It doesn't help that our financial minister Trygve Slagsvold Vedum is completely worthless. When he calculated for everyone's future wealth due to their politics he used the highest average when he should've gone by the lowest average instead. As a result, everyone earning less than 350K NOK a year suffered.
Labour are busy doing the same in the UK too, plus they seem to be in favour of implementing 'woke' (for lack of a better familiar term) policies which are increasingly unpopular with most people and a large part of their voter base.
@@mdl2427 thats not the problem, the problem is that parties are almost only focusing on social left policies and not also economically left policies. because like usual, capital reigns supreme, and social policies dont affect the elite much, but economic ones do
Letæs not forget they are in a coalition with SP which is basically just FrP but with a pro-rural profile. I effin hate that the budget is for dying rural areas. Let it die! people in big cities are suffering because of the housing crisis, yet they pay for this nostalgic idea of a "rural Norway" which is not economically viable.
The Progress Party in Norway is in a unique position making it a bastard among parties. Because of Norway's huge oil-fortune, it is possible to sell a combination of lower taxes and huge public spending. That way the party has a solution for everything. And people swallow it hook and sinker. For some years at least.
While the cause of the current RW shift is the stuff of whole academic careers, I can see two issues: - Left wing parties became parties of social rather than economic justice. Not that the former is bad, but the issue is that economic just a) affects more people and b) aids social justice, but social justice does not aid economic justice. Like it or not, this has created field of people who feel precarious but don't see any positive change from mainstream leftwing parties. - Voters have become infantilized. On the other end of blame, it's clear we don't like to think to hard about complex issues, and the only people with the shameless guile to offer simple solutions are populists. I did think it was funny that despite Norway being the textbook example of why countries should NOT sell off their strategic resources, the privatization party is surging. I know that's not the only policy they have, but libertarianism is so at odds with the entire reason Norway is so wealthy it's hilarious they seem to be winning.
The problem is that while having a massive sovereign wealth fund, Norway is still a high-tax society. That irks a lot of Norwegians and FRP in particular have stated aim of using sovereign wealth to alleviate tax burden
I would like to mention that yes, while populists offer simple solutions to complicated problems (and nearly always fail to deliver once they're in power, while being highly efficient in demolishing democracy), the established parties in most European countries have been failing to deliver the complicated solutions to complicated problems for decades now.
Im from Norway and have been a subscriber since the first days of brexit videoes. I just wanted to say that it is refreshing to see an outside view of our politics i these strange times. And reassuring to see that you cover the subject very well. Keep up the good work. ❤
This is not a pro Russian party, the reason people want to vote for them is because of bad economic steering of the current government. They also want to stop idiotic green investments that don’t work, and they say they want less regulations and less public spending. They also have a though stance on immigration.
green investments are not idiotic, neither is high public spending in a welfare state like norway. immigration is the only reasonable thing on their charts, and that isn't even in the top 5 most pressing issues in norway.
@@adamelghalmi9771No, taxes in Norway are suffocating and public waste is enormous. Ridiculous wealth taxes with a threshold so low that upper middle class people pay it, insanely progressive income tax, high property tax, high car taxes, high alcohol taxes, high gas taxes. Eventually our government will figure out how to tax the air we breathe. FRP are somewhat right libertarian, they are the only party that truly wants less taxes and a flatter tax system that rewards work. Høyre and Labour are too similar.
@@adamelghalmi9771the modern climate change movement is basically secular religion at this point. No amount of evidence that the technology isn't there yet and that the average person (as opposed to jet setting billionaires and wasteful industry practices) has little responsibility for the human impact is enough for the zealots, who ironically tend to be pretty militantly atheist as well. Basically every country that chooses to virtue signal with green energy ends up importing a large amount of energy from elsewhere, and those countries typically don't have the green agenda in mind. But hey, at least westerners get to feel good looking at their pretty windmills while they stuff the pockets of 3rd world oligarchies
I’m Canadian and feel the exact same, and the last few weeks have been kind to me (Trudeau resigning has been the only international news here for a while)
I am turkish and for some reason i just have good impression of norway in most ways its geography looks good, national fund is good(turkey have too but the companies that gets connected to it just fare worse because of corruption but norwegian one seems to work) overall i see it as a perfect tho its citizens might think otherwise...
I remember a couple months of ago when people were saying every left wing party should follow Norway's Labour party on immigration. I told people to move your position more right will only make people go with the real thing. No matter what any left wing party does on immigration that is deemed strict, it wont help you. People will go to the most extreme because the people are radicalized. I don't agree with these people's views but I honestly think it's inevitable, history does repeat itself. In times of economic discomfort, this will happen.
it worked for the danes, but they did go "extreme" (it's not extreme at all, even in the early modern period gypsies were recognized as a problem and they were banished for their criminal practices, we should do the same individually but then to the country that fits them best culturally and ethnically, legally it can't be done yet but laws can be changed
As a Progress Party member, I don’t think it is right to say that we want to increase public spending that much anymore. Actually these days there is heightened exasperation among the public that government spending is out of control, and Progress is the most outspoken critic of increased spending on things that aren’t really essential, such as bureaucracy, culture and subsidies. For the last couple of years Progress’ alternative national budgets have entailed a level of spent oil money on par with the current government, but we have at least shown a different priority. I’ve been one of those in the party who have championed spending cuts on non-essential stuff, and this is where the party has been heading for the last couple of years. Progress as as big oil money spender party is a thing of the past. It’s time for limited government, more freedom, stronger borders and more business friendliness.
30% of workers in Norway are public employees, 10-15% of the working age are on disability. 70% of the export is oil/gas, our biggest export beside this is fish which is 3%. Governments over the years have done nothing to improve entrepreneurship and have instead built a tax wall to keep rich people from leaving. Progress Party is the only large party which want to downsize the state, let people keep more of their money and improve business conditions
The main reason for this big shift I would say is that we are having a generational shift: Boomers -> Millennials My grandparents generation which unofficially was called the _Post-War_ generation and what made them better than Boomer and Millennials is how united and nationalistic they were. If they had seen how much immigrants they would have shot their kids in anger, because I remember one my grandpa got very angry when the national news TV channel NRK announced that Swedes was coming over as immigrants. How do you think they would react on far-far-immigration like Muslims? The _Post-War_ generation was thought to protect every inch of our national boarders. So when I see swings like this I am not surprised because there has not been held a democratic vote over if to allow immigration or not. I will end this with that as a Norwegian I am no longer interested in national politics because in practice we aren't really a democracy unlike Switzerland.
A more accurate translation would be: Post-War Generation. After-war is a more literal translation that does not work as well in English. Overall a very minor nitpick in an otherwise good comment.
If the after war generation thing has to do with the problem is that we are now so distant from WWII that people forgot that it’s a nightmare to be ruled by fascists.
I'm very curious what the causal percentages are behind FRP's rise regarding these four things: Responding to Europe or World-wide anti-immigrant sentiments / Responding to local on-the-ground effects of immigration / Disaffection with traditional parties / Specific policy disagreements totally unrelated to immigration like energy & taxes I imagine a lot of the international viewers draw strong conclusions based on their own prior assumptions even though they have no idea what Norwegians actually think. I'm Norwegian and even I don't really know for certain what cause is more prevalent and by how much percentage wise.
Fun fact FRP (short for "Fremskritspartiet", refered to in the video as "The Progress Party") originally was named "Anders Langes Parti til sterk nedsettelse av skatter, avgifter og offentlige inngrep" ("Anders Lange's Party for Strong Reduction of Taxes, Fees, and Public Interventions"). Also, even though it's the "progress" party, it is not for actual progress.
One man's progress is another's not actual progress. That's the nature of words like that, they're relative. A woman has child number 5 and thinks "I'm making progress in my family" and the feminist across the streets thinks "she's conforming to gender roles, we're not making progress as a society". TL;DR you don't know how words work.
I'm no fan of FrP, but that depends on what is meant by progress. Somehow I don't trust you (who are you?) to have the absolute definition. Progressives don't have a monopoly on progress. The future could progress in "non-progressive" ways.
"Progress" is debatable. If you think in the positivist way of "order and progress" then yeah, they are progressive. If you think with the liberal left mindset of progress being essentially just social equality, then they aren't.
As a Norwegian both parties have failed us, unwillingly and undemocratically forced us closer to the EU, and have become "fat and lazy" while gorging themselves on our taxes! The biggest reason for this it seems is much the same as most of Europe, with career politicians that are ideologically driven, dominating national politics, without actually having any experience in the fields they are supposed to govern. There has also been many scandals surrounding both parties, with prominent politicians being caught enriching themselves while the average citizens is getting poorer. We are definitly ready for changes, and a public longing for sensibel policies from competent politicians, that put our national interests above that of the corrupt EU!
I can't see FRP correcting this. If so, they would probably bring Norway closer to US dependence. Witch will be far worse. I'm not pro EU.. AT ALL.. But FRP ideologically is Tatcher/Reaganism. And that is some messed up sheit for any country.
@humushumus2219 Yeah, I dont see FRP as a solution either, too much simplistic politics, and not enough longe term/holistic vision/agenda. Im currently looking at INP personally as the party most aligned with my own wishes for our nation.
I read something about a not so smart implementation of an unrealised gains tax, forcing hundreds of entrepreneurs out of the country, because it was impossible to pay that tax. As you say, politicians without any actual experience.
@burgienl Yes! And both parties mentioned here has made this situation a lot worse over the last decades. This has a lot to do with a ideological fixation on the "green shift" and outsourcing/importing everything. In this regard our Nordic neighbours beat us by miles! Overall, many of our politicians are driven by theory/ideology, without much common sense or sound fiscal/economical ideas. Again, people without much actual work/life experience outside of the political "bubble".
I think Norway is a bit of a unique case as there are specific scandals in both parties. In my opinion, labour has gotten rid of all its ideals and is essentially a non-party today with very few reasons to vote them above other parties on the left. The conservatives have suffered a lot due to the scandals surrounding Erna Solberg. I am currently quite worried about the next election as we will likely either get a prime minister from the progress party or one that has been engaged in insider trading. Only way this ends well is if erna steps down as leader of the conservatives or there is a massive swing to the left
I don't like Labour, but they haven't actually done that bad of a job, especially compared to Høyre & FrP. Labour just had the misfortune of entering into government one month before the European energy prices started going through the roof. So people blame them. Even though the reason we are affected so much by European energy prices is that all the right-wing parties (H, FrP, V) and one of the centrist ones (Labour, though half-heartedly) pushed for connecting more cables to UK and Europe dueing the last decade, and subscribing to the EU energy regulations. Both left-wing parties (R, SV) and the centrist agarian party (Sp) fought against this. The centre/centre-right KrF were half against, half for.
You must have rose-colored glasses! I'm a Conservative voter, but I try to be objective. I don't dislike Labor, but I have no love for SP. I think all the parties are trying to do their best for the people/country. All governments have to handle the disasters and market conditions we live in. Labor isn't usually a disaster, but this government has not been great. Especially by comparison with the previous Conservative government that handled several waves of problems. Even if you ignore all the Labor government's scandals, I see a lot of slow and strange decision making, that is the main difference I see. SP has not improved things, Labor would have done better alone. As I studied EU/EEA law, I think you have a very simplistic view of our European relations and energy market. I certainly don't think you framed this right or that there is someone to blame.
One of the main reasons they have such a big voter share is that they (sadly) are the only big political party in Norway that outright say they want less immigration. Less these days compared to before, but still. I doubt they would achieve that even as a coalition leader. The party is otherwise a big joke with a few "populist" ideas that don't really matter when you look at the bigger picture, as well as politics that clearly benefit the rich and not most people. They're big on wanting to spend resources without thinking about the consequences.
I live in Norway, when Støre grabbed power he did like Starmer, increased taxes on businesses, I run a business, and had to make strategic changes to avoid pay ludicrous ly high income tax. He has done nothing good, he is like a weak Trudeau, Biden or Starmer, and I hope he ends up driving a taxi after the next election, but we all know hids EU and WEdF friends will find him a cushy job, well paid with free health care and no taxes. Much like an ealier Labour party PM here, who wanted Norway out of NATO is his early days, then cut defence spending when in government, then when he was general sectetary of NATO went around saying everyone should pay more. Labour party re full of duplicitous hypocrites and I hope they get what they deserve
Although the current government hasn't delivered, people are very quick to abandon their own ideals and values just because "well the other party say price go down". Then what? We start complaining as soon as they take office about how things aren't as easy as they said it would be, that things aren't improving fast and then we're all going to go back voting for Labour because now they're saying they'll fix the problem.
I love Norway. They are not a part of EU. They are the richest nation on earth now. Look at their oil fund. They have the right to put their country and their citizen first
There is an additional factor to take into account. In the Nordic countries, there is a tradition of the Nordic agrarian parties. They are often called "Centre" parties and traditionally occupy a "center" space between the socialist/social democrat left and the business conservative right. These parties maintain somewhat heterodox views, being nationalistic (many being soft Euroskeptic) but also very rural, in favor of decentralization and in general have a slight libertarian bent. For many decades they played a major kingmaker role between the left and the right. However, globalization and urbanization have basically decimated those parties. That has resulted in many of their former base turning towards these new harder right parties.
all i know about scandi political parties is that a funny guy i listened to that one time called all their center parties criminal organisations. seems that people started agreeing with him
1:40 Yes I agree, because if you don't do this you see that large areas of a country get completely ignored. What this causes is that the rural areas will then radicalize against people from the cities, you see this in many European nations. If this is not stopped violence will at some point be the result
Here's something interesting. In Cambodia, rural Cambodians wish for a return of the Khmer Rouge regime despite how much they suffered under it. Their wellbeing dropped to rock bottom but since the urbanites of the country were worse off (dead), it was a worthwhile trade to them.
@@roland228 I am not saying rural populations are always right, but even if power is technically distributed fairly as in each person has the same voting power. People in rural populations will feel disenfranchised due to all the power centered in usually more liberal urban centers. For smaller countries this usually isn't a massive deal, because enough can be done to appease rural populations by listening to their issues and resolving them, the larger a nation is the less this seems to happen.
The overview @2:13 has several mistakes in the Denmark section: 1. The two parties you listed as non-bloc may claim to be so, but in practice they are not. "The New Right" is a far right party, further to the right than most of the blue bloc parties you listed. They would never form a government with any red bloc party. 2. Similarly "The Alternative" is a solidly red bloc party fairly far to the left. Even pollsters don't list these parties as "non-bloc". 3. You're completely missing several parties: Denmark Democrats (far right), Moderates (claim to be non-bloc but is solidly Right), and possibly soon including "Citizens' Party" (Right).
I like the explanation from Trond Giske from the Labour Party, where he uses the theory of David Goodhart to separate between "Anywheres" and "Somewheres" when it comes to voting and what political parties focus on. It's a bit more complicated than globalist vs. nationalist, but related. The traditional parties have become way too much focused on "anywheres" with idiotic stances on green policies and dysfunctional trans national energy market at the expense of normal people in the country they are supposed to rule.
But, as a Norwegian. And probably you also are. We are making a shit ton of money right now. Yes prices are way to high. And it’s on fortunate that we are obliged to sell electric to the EU. We still buy energy from them. But anyways. The pipeline that sends that electricity was voted to be built by FrP. They wanted to make those profits. It’s not labours fault that the EU doesn’t get electricity from Russia anymore. But eventually the world will tune normal again. Just keep good faith, and believe in the welfare state! It’s the only way of wich the normal citizen will be safe in the future. And Norway does lie to rule a future if we don’t fuck up by spending all our savings on problems now. If you want to vote opposition, I am saying it will not make any change other then possibly destroying the future. That why I will urge, if voting opposition vote the center conservatives (høyre). Or else keep faith in labour. Norway is build on trust. And that’s what makes it an utopia.
Norwegian here. The test of any media is when they comment on things you know well. The dice roll in this instance is probably three or four out of six. Not horrible, but not great either.
Labour (Arbeiderpartiet) is failing for multiple reasons. It was founed as a party for regular blue collar workers, but have turned into a party for academics, where the leaders haven't worked with their hands a single day of their lives. They also have an UNcharismatic leader (Støre) who cannot even answer basic questions, like what their policies are. And they have absolutely no clue how to solve the insane inflation going on right now. The conservative party (Høyre), is failing for two reasons. They promise lower taxes but do the opposite. And they're the reason why Norway entered ACER, the European electric power organisation, forcing us to export way too much el. power, and becoming a part of the European power grid, which skyrocketed el. costs in Southern Norway. Thank god I live in the north, completely unaffected by this crap. Btw, what's your source for claiming that Labour will be "raising spending from the wealth fund"? Because that's ILLEGAL. They can spend the PROFIT, but they can NOT touch the fund itself.
The number one danger with our economic model is government wasting and and the incapability of the public sector to compete in the international market. The private sector always wins in this regard. These politicians of ours are not competent enough to use the money we have gotten rich on in the oil industry and convert it into further growth. I think the oil has hidden some of the deep rooted issues until know, as oil begins to face out over time there is a lack of incentive for foreign investment into the future hindering further growth as it is very hard to start up companies here due to the heavy taxes. This is why there is a shift to the "right sided" parties as it is simply the only solution to have a more free economy to solve these issues. But this is only the tip of the iceberg.
As a Norwegian, I see more reasons to vote for the progressive party, spending less money on expensive symbolic policies, such as the green shift, tougher immigration policy and taxes.
if you ever need an example on how being distracted by short term gains can screw you over, look at the US. and since 2024 was the hottest year on record, and first to break the 1.5c threshold, 10 years earlier than predicted, climate policies are one of the most important investments we can make. a tougher climate means worse crop yields, hydroelectric power plants becoming less effective, more forest fires, and more brutal winters. and talking about wasting money on symbolic policies, getting rid of immigrants will not pay off more than it would to keep them. even getting such a program started can cost hundreds of millions, maybe billions to get started. for example, Trumps immigration plan is projected to cost 40 billion on its own lower taxes may seem nice at first, until food and electricity costs more and more each year, and society getting more divided as politicians search for another ethnic group to blame all out problems on. its honestly disappointing to see people turn this way
@CrispyMuffin2 The green shift alone costs the Norwegian state about 50 billion nok a year, as well as the fact that Norway is starting to have the same problem as in Sweden with Muslim immigration, which the Progressive Party will focus on with a stricter immigration policy than today.
@@Kvannkjos im more wondering why the immigration stuff is a problem. and you not liking foreign people is not a viable reason on the other hand, im more than happy to have us invest a good chunk of money if it means keeping our planet safe to live on for future generations. and we are only seeing the beginning of whats to come if we keep polluting. if you know much about Norway, you should know how much the summer droughts in the recent years have harmed our farming industry if we are able to earn trillions through pollution, we should be able to spend some tens of billions to try and reduce it to safe levels. yeah it will sting financially, but investing in our future is the most important thing we can do right now
1:37 this is a good thing, and if you don't understand why, look at any state in the USA that has a big city that dominates the state's politics to the point where no one outside the city ever gets a say.
If you want a real Answers have a look at Oslo city centre, where Somali and Eretrinen men making havoc and terror, you feel like you are in some third word Bangladesh
Nah, its more that the countries that are feeling cumulative inflation + effects of the ukraine war are flipping: MOVED LEFT TO RIGHT (8): Finland (center-left to right) France (center to center-right leaning) Italy (technocratic to right) Netherlands (center-right to further right) Portugal (center-left to center-right) Sweden (center-left to right) Czech Republic (populist center to center-right) Cyprus (center-right to different center-right) MOVED RIGHT TO LEFT (4): Germany (center-right to center-left coalition) Poland (right-wing nationalist to center-left) Slovenia (right to center-left) Slovakia (center-right to left-populist) STABLE/MAINTAINING (15): Austria (center-right) Belgium (center coalition) Bulgaria (pro-EU coalition) Croatia (center-right) Denmark (centrist coalition) Estonia (liberal coalition) Greece (center-right) Hungary (strong right) Ireland (center-right) Latvia (center-right coalition) Lithuania (center-right coalition) Luxembourg (center-right coalition) Malta (center-left) Romania (center-right coalition) Spain (center-left coalition)
@@lurifaks92 Poland is more centre/centre-left, ditto for Germany. In Slovakia there are two social democratic parties in government (both nationalist and conservative, socially right-wing) and one right-wing/far right party. In Italy the majority of the coalition is made up of two right-wing/far right parties, only one is centre-right (Forza Italia). In France, however, I wouldn't rush to judge the situation, Macron and the Republicans have lost a lot of votes, the most voted party is right-wing/far right.
@@lurifaks92 More generally, if we look at polls and elections, it's clear that across Europe the more right-wing/far-right parties have increased their importance. United Kingdom: Reform UK Romania: AUR and S.O.S Romania Poland: Konfederacja Germany: AFD France: Rassemblement National Italy: Brothers of Italy Spain: VOX Portugal: Chega! Bulgaria: Revival
The extra profit on oil and gas isn't real. Sure, prices are up and technically that means Norway is earning a lot on it. But the norwegian citizen is paying more for that same oil. More for groceries, and more for water. Houses and cars are unaffordable, and the real income for almost any job, except miraculously a politicians', is down. Again. Where's the money? It's both aiding Ukraine and waging war at the same time. It's used in an absurd amount of 'administrative' government cost. And it's accruing rates in fonds for a pension that will never come.
There is always a difference in polls and actual election results. FRP (progressives) usually get more protest votes in polls, but when the election day arrives people tend to be more moderate. We saw the same thing with SP (center party) who is in the coalition with Labour. They had a massive growth in polls before almost collapsing at election day.
Even the most high ranking country in allmost all social indicators has such a big lead for RW party means that it's time politicans in EU start having a really hard look at how they do immigration because Today it's austria and Norway .....in few years it'll be AFD that will be having their support in mid 30s
I think that if even the highest ranking country in almost all social indicators votes so much for far right it means that it's a moot point. Why would they vote for a problem that clearly doesn't affect them?
@@enrico6176because they see what happens when Islamists take over a country like it happened to Sweden and don’t want it in their own country. It’s called having a brain and common sense. Try it sometime.
The AfD has already reached its voter potential though. Most people know that voting for the AfD is categorically wrong, there wont be much of a surge past the 22% mark. The more scary thing is that the CDU might enter a coalition with the AfD which would be possible considering current polling numbers and indications by the CDU. I sincerely hope that people realize quickly how bad a hostile migrant policy would be and reconcider accordingly.
Hasn’t the danish and Swedish block-politics systems been destroyed? The sweden democrats support the current moderate, liberal and kd government, whiles the liberal centre party would support a socdem and greens coalition without the left. In Denmark they have a grand coalition with socdems, venstre and their moderates
For Norway specifically, the following is on Wikipedia: "In 2017, a Statistics Norway report on crime in Norway was ordered by the immigration minister Sylvi Listhaug.[15] According to Statistics Norway, since there is a generally low proportion of crime across all resident populations, it limited the scope of the paper to figures for individual nations from which at least 4,000 immigrants lived in Norway as of 1 January 2010.[16] In the 2010-2013 period, the proportion of foreign-born perpetrators of criminal offences aged 15 and older per 1000 residents in Norway was found to be highest among immigrants from South and Central America (164.0), Africa (153.8), and Asia including Turkey (117.4), and lowest among immigrants from Eastern Europe (98.4), other Nordic countries (69.1), and Western Europe outside the Nordic region (50.7). This was compared to averages of 44.9 among native Norwegians and 112.9 among Norway-born residents with parents of foreign origin.[17] Among individual countries of origin for which figures were provided, the estimated proportion of foreign-born perpetrators was highest among immigrants from Kosovo (131.48), Afghanistan (127.62), Iraq (125.29), Somalia (123.81), and Iran (108.60). Over-representation largely depended on variables such as gender and age structure (M2) and employment (M4), with residence (M3) having a negligible effect on the total. When adjusted for these variables, the unadjusted proportion (M1) of the foreign-born perpetrators of criminal offences during the same period dropped significantly in the adjusted estimates: Kosovo (113 M2; 106 M4), Afghanistan (93 M2; 85 M4), Iraq (102 M2; 92 M4), Somalia (102 M2; 89 M4), and Iran (98 M2; 91 M4). Immigrants from Poland were the only over-represented population for which all three adjustable variables, including residence, could explain their over-representation.[13]" Probably the most significant individual line is the following: "This was compared to averages of 44.9 among native Norwegians and 112.9 among Norway-born residents with parents of foreign origin." Might have something to do with current political trends. I mean, would you support parties who continue, decade after decade, to import immigrants who rob, rape and kill you at great disproportionate rates, and force you to pay for the privilege by having your money distributed to them through taxation and welfare, to have comfortable familiarity replaced with a sense of being an alien on your own land?
Most likely just an oversight, or intentional as they're completely irrelevant as no-one wants to join a coalition with them. Their voters are mentally disabled or on dagpenger, so when their party leader got caught stealing he got away scot free by blaming it on "mental illness" and his voters bought into it. Isn't that crazy?
@@ArkBlanc True. But then why are MdG on that chart, and not Rødt? If it's a matter of limiting the graph to the top six, Rødt should be tracked in place of MdG.
I feel like most of Norwegian-societal issues stems from our education not allowing students to progress at different rates therefore only the targeted group for progress will have desirable difficulty, and because of that at least one third and more likely two thirds of students are going to fall behind and never get any real dividends on most of their time in education. This in turn puts ever greater strain on the economy, people only see the economy struggling and not necessarily the root cause being that the amount of people dependent on government subsidies are ever growing. Beware I am extremely biased towards education having allot of untapped potential.
I would respectfullly advise avoiding this alternance of excessive reading speed and slow speed (in the idea of demonstrating ease with the language and dynamism), but instead focusing on pronouncing all syllables correctly and maintaining consistent speed. After that we can increase the speed through settings if we want.
in Norway the immigration question isnt as big anymore, its more the energy politics that are causing harm to the conservative party, both the major parties in norway want immigration and more cables to Germany, something the general populous doesnt want, but more and more parties are switching up on immigration, mainly decreasing though no remigration or full stop
its also important to note that the labour party runs "now its the regular peoples turn" as a slogan and that won them alot of votes, but were also facing a big economic problems, and they are in favour of exporting massive amounts of power as it seems our politicians view the Norwegian democratic positions as a stepping stone towards better jobs in the eu, were having record breaking power costs year after year while exporting 30 ish terrawatts per year
its important to note that frp, the progress pary, are in practice left of democrats on many of the actual issues that matter. Let me explain: the american democrats may seem like one step away from commies if you take their more "outspoken" members like AOC at face value. But this is mostly on token issues like pronouns, racial issues and abortion. In practice their policies are only left of republicans, not left of norwegian ones. they keep sending weapons and money to israel. they fund private healthcare with goverment money, enriching the rich, rather than nationalizing the healthcare system. All the choices that actually impact americans and the world are made in a very rigth leaning way compared to scandinativan politics. frp dose not want to privatize the healthcare system and give it to the rich, rather they want to deregularize private healthcare as an alternative.
Just don't do regional representation and use nationwide party list.. Simple. If you wanna contact an MP, you should be able to contact all of them (whoever you feel represents YOU the most, not your constituency). If you REALLY still want constituency MPs, then just allocated these PR electes MPs each to a constituency where their party has won a plurality.
It's not the first time FrP has been big in Norway and they were the second biggest party earlier in the 2000s, keep in mind the latest poll again showed Høyre (conservatives) as the biggest party. It's also important to note that SP had a populist wave in early 2021 as well, but they lost a lot of traction towards the election. Sylvi Listhaug is also not more popular than Erna Solberg. Prime minister polls shows that more people want Solberg as PM than Støre and Listhaug combined. Some factual errors in this video.
Labor (Arbeiderpartiet) long since stopped representing labor, Progress (Fremskrittspartiet) is anti-progress and Conservative (Høyre) are mostly just Progress if it was slightly less racist. I am not looking forward to this years election. Labor sucks and doesn't do enough for people, but Progress and Conservative are actively harmful to healthcare, education, public transportation and so on.
@ lol - piss off 👍 Lets keep our money to ourselves and dont send it out of the country. 58 billion NOK to be spend by the goverment in foreign aid is borderline insane. Ukraina yes, the rest of the money graving states in Afrika and the middle east a big fat NO.
As a Norwegian. I will proclaim that I am terrified by this. And I’m honestly I don’t understand why it’s happening. I think we actually have become to spoiled. And that living like normal people has made the population angry. It’s because of price which the labour government can’t control. And the center Conservative Party is also a good party. Like if you want to vote on opposition vote for the «conservative». Because, it’s like my mother says. And she is a very wise woman. FrP is the only major party not in it for the people of Norway but for the rich upper class(themselfs). What also makes me frightened by the rise of the progress party, is that Norway just found a lot of rear resources. FrP wants to invite private companies to buy right for these, instead of ensuring that an already very rich Norway can utilize and build up a more secure future, where we the people get the most from future profits. This is the way every other party wants to grow our natural resource industry. Ps: the «conservative» party is not really conservative. It’s about a bit more free market, but also protecting the welfare state, wich Norway is build upon. The FrP or the party in topic here is the very liberal/totally free market state. It is against funding all the welfare wich Norway gives its population. But its utilizing the bad fervor in the country to gain support.
the recent wars and disasters are absolutely the #1 reason life is getting more costly. Russia cutting of gas and oil, making us the primary supplier to EU, Ukraine, the biggest grain producer on Earth is basically in ruins, and climate change making it harder to farm crops, all of it comes from these events but people fail to realize. immigration is only a byproduct of all that, not the cause. getting rid of those people will only cause more problems elsewhere, and make life here no better than it was a month ago but im willing to believe its just a loud minority wanting to cause a ruckus. i have yet to meet someone in person who agree with what im hearing online
I am also Norwegian, generally tired of top politicians that keeps on overpromising and straight up lying. This goes for a lot of the mainstream political parties. I give my vote to smaller parties like the Pirate Party (Piratpartiet). I do not care that it is a small and mostly irrelevant party at this point compared to the early 2010s where they entered Norwegian politics with a bang due to Datalagringsdirektivet, I consider this a better use of my vote than simply voting blank. Arbeiderpartiet became lite version of Høyre and are often nicknamed Arbeidsgiverpartiet. They deserve their decreasing vote numbers. Høyre is Partiet de rike (The Party of the Rich). Fremskrittspartiet is a populist party started by wackos that have become more moderate with time, it still has some of those wackos in it. Even the moderates within FRP acknowledge this. The three parties above are generally in favour of policies benefitting the rich. Personally, I do not like any of them. To be clear, I am against how SMALLER companies are being drained for money due to heavy taxation to the point they have hard time expanding. I do think the rich should pay their share of the tax, but we should not tax them to the point they want to move out of Norway. That is money moving out of the country, which is bad. As for the rest of the parties: Senterpartiet have been useless, this is coming from someone who are within their target demographic. I was born and raised rural and I am heavily in favour of decentralisation. I want to vote for them, but they keep on giving me reasons to not vote for them. Miljøpartiet De Grønne are too zealous in their fervor. I do think their influence is a force of good, but they need to mellow a bit if they want broader support. Venstre? I genuinely forgot about them, they are kinda just there in the background not drawing much attention. Rødt stays memorable because of the comedy in the worst fall they have had: Moxnes being a klepto, stealing sunglasses and struggling to accept responsibility. I genuinely think this would not become as big as it did if he just admitted it. While I disagree with a lot of their policies, most of their top politicians do seem to be grounded which is saying a lot when compared to the other big parties who are firmly within the elite. Pasientfokus, they are not even a registered party and I am surprised they even got a seat. That seat is the only reason I am mentioning them because I am impressed they achieved that. Kristelig Folkeparti, may any religious party go further into irrelevancy. Religion and politics should not be mixed.
@@Ozzianman kan forstå hva du mener, og nice at du bruker stemmeretten din! Men jeg synes du glemmer noe, og det er jo hvem som bryr seg kanskje mest om de øvre klassene. Og personlig vil jeg jo ikke si meg enig i din analyse av hva Arbeiderpartiet står eller jobber for. Jeg synes de fremdeles prøver å hjelpe arbeiderklassen, mens Høyre er mer blitt lignende i at de er partiet for den nye arbeiderklasse i Norge, som er de høyere utdannede. Personlig så mener jeg at FrP er egentlig det eneste av de store partiene som absolutt bare er der for egeninteresser. De vil jo svekke de gode kvaliteter som gjør at Norge er det beste landet i verden. Også, jeg er ikke så imot et parti basert på hvem som var der, men hva ideologien står for. Alle har feil, inkludert oss. Jeg er enig med deg i analysen av de andre partiene! Hvertfall mdg
Min hovedkritikk av FrP er heller ikke rettet så mye mot de helt forferdelige ekstreme parter av partiet. Jeg beklager de ikke. Men jeg mener FrPs økonomiske agenda ikke er noe som vil sikre en god fremtid for Norge.
I agree with your criticisms of FrP (actually a good critique and not "oh my god this is like so right wing and so scary because reasons", which is what I was expecting from your use of "terrified"), but thinking that Norway has even a single party that's "in it for the people" is very naïve, let alone thinking that every party except FrP is. Sadly, perhaps the most principled party is Rødt ("the Reds"), unfortunately their leader is morally bankrupt and their politics are equally "helt bak mål".
The overview at 2:11 is outdated as far as Denmark is concerned. It maybe applied at the 2019 election, but by now most people treat the Alternative as part of the red bloc. And New Right, although de facto dead, was part of the blue bloc before its leader quit it. Also two new parties have obtained parliamentary representation since then.
Norway has already left its peak golden age, so any change now cant really be that damaging. But politics in Norway has been for the most part been made up of keeping the status quo. Høyre is the government for sometime, then AP is the government for some time and vice versa. Politics wise we've stayed mostly the same since the 90s.
The two main issues as far as I can tell are the decline in purchasing power, and the large amounts of immigration. The issues are basically the same as in every western europe country.
It should be noted that the Right-Wing Party is called "Progress Party" not "Progressive Party".
They wish to progress from the current state to a state where women and children are not being raped in mass numbers. That is regressive to a noncy lefty, progressive to a straight conservative.
And historically it was literally pro apartheid
I imagine it must be like the progressive party in my country: when they talk about progress, they are referring to economic progress, not exactly social progress, since they are a right-wing party.
@@sundhaug92 based
@@sundhaug92og demokratene i usa var for slavevirksomhet, whats your point?
Isn’t it the same is most European countrys atm baring a few like Denmark Poland etc, failures of the traditional centre right and centre left to deal with issues such as migration and other issues properly have pushed people to new parties
The key point in Poland and Denmark is they had very low migration from outside the EU. If the left wing parties decide to open the borders they will swing back right soon enough.
@@jonathan2847 denmark had/has very high immigration relative to their population, it's just that unlike other eu countries, they chose to actually integrate people properly instead of making permanent slums and ghettoes for them which inevitably leads to crime, and it's clearly working since it's resulted in a big decrease in crime, and since people like you don't even realize that denmark even has high immigration
@@jonathan2847Poland has large migration level from outside the EU. It's hust that it's mostly from Ukraine and Belarus
"failures" (aka intentional ignoring of the voters in favour of their donors).
Exactly, it's like the answers for the homework are available online and governments around the world are ignoring this.
"Why the party _____ , a right-wing populist party is on the rise in country _____?" You have dozens of videos with the same question and same answer.
Europa is healing.
Because the average voter is undereducated, doesn't understand history, and is, baseline, a racist?
This is a failure of democracy at the end of the day.
@@Akrasia-j3h definitely a 12 years old
I mean it's just a cycle. You can't expect the political system to be the same indefinitely
People getting mad at immigrants, inflation, and the establishment, plus those right wing parties get support from foreign anti-european governments.
Norwegian here. Energy politics, economical situation and increasing numbers of taxes and failed green projects makes the purchasing ability of the general inhabitant under severe pressure and morale is absolutely devestated.
Every-fucking-body thinks they are losing purchasing ability and under severe pressure. Even when the numbers clearly show the opposite. If fucking Norway, after an immense extra revenue from gas exports, thinks that they are struggling, what is the rest of the world gonna do?
Seems insane to not subsidize the common people's living standards with the massive oil fund in such a situation. What else would it be for?
Energy especially is a huge sore point for most people. Norway has historically had extremely cheap hydro electricity, but a few years ago, the grid was connected to the european market. This caused the prizes to 10x, and when combined with a huge post-covid inflation, the cost of living has skyrocketed over only the last 5 years.
@@hyhhy currently for UN, green scandals, foreign aid and EU projects.
everybody says norway is rich they are taxed like fuck and they keep saving money in the sovereign wealth fund. i hope their grandchildren turn it into a harem and party everyday. spend some money, cut some tax, quit subsidizing european energy. norway would be better combining with the uk on energy and defence. to hold leverage over the EU. now that would be smart
I know people always say nothing ever happens, but it feels like somethings happening.
Yes, if AP and H is tossed to the side, then the Norwegian government will be different for the first time in 50+ years.
@@Goestohollywood-l8x
Nothing drastic will happen because H is going to end up in the new government.
Nah, nothing ever happens.
There are decades where nothing happens, and weeks where decades happen.
Yeah the world is turning fascist
US expat in Norway here. Cost of living is inexcusable. To be a nation that sits on not just one, but TWO jackpots (oil and phosphorous), I just don’t understand why it’s so difficult to buy things anymore. Norvega cheese is now 139kr, up from 90 just 4 years ago
I saw the cheese at 149 last week, at a normal store. I cannot afford proper food and clothing for my kids anymore. The guy in the thumbnail of this video is one of the reasons.
Combination of Norwegian protectionism of the agricultural sector and the Grocery Cartel having a stranglehold on the local market to the point of stagnation. It is one of those paradoxical oddities for a nation that relies on trade through necessity. Norway should be importing a lot more food. Local produce is good, fresher, but it is unsustainable to rely only on this.
You are not an expat you are a migrant, say it right.
Problem is not the prices, but that they don't inform about the reason.
Butter was the one that went 2x over a short period of time, so clearly there is something related to the material in cheese and butter production.
@@Ozzianman no, not protectionism, but false competition.
And you should not import or export food unless you want to live like a bottom 90% Venezuelan. or a Cuban for that matter.
People's memory seem to be failing. FRP has been in the government before. They made a big huff and puff getting in, but gave up and left fairly quickly, leaving the rest of the coalition to scramble. They're an oposition party at best and usually not good at leading anything. Most of the time they just end up leaving if they can't get their way.
There is a difference between leaving the coalition because your coalition members isn't doing what you want and not doing anything. If anything, FrP has showed that they're no all talk and are willing to fight for what they're saying. Whether or not what their policies are a well thought out is another story. As you're saying, as an opposition party most of their policies aren't all that major, as they focus on getting rid of sugar taxes and allowing people to buy alcohol in supermarkets. They're going to have to change a lot if they want to lead a nation.
Populists will do what populists do, over promise and under deliver and they use wedge issues to turn the knife in whatever party is currently in power.
@jeppepuus Sounds pretty scary, just see what happened with all the justice ministers from FRP, failure after failure and we saw them choose virtue politics over the people they were elected to serve.
Frp was in government from 2013 until 2020, I wouldn't call that leaving fairly quickly. In fact it was much longer than both KrF and Venstre.
FRP didn't give up, they left the government as they refused to stand with the conservatives bringing in literal ISIS terrorists.
Once you start spending oil money you can’t stop. Gotta be careful not to cut too much into the sovereign wealth fund and give in to populism
yea, if they really spend more of their SWFs money and choose to invest in local infrustructure using that same money, its a very slippery slope that might slowly eat away at norway from the inside
Depends if you're spending on recurring costs or one time costs. If you're spending to feed the people you're going to spend forever, but if you're building infrastructure you only have to worry about the much smaller maintenance cost.
Oil money being ring fenced for productive infrastructure is fine. It's when it's used to fund social welfare spending, or projects that provide no return on investment when it becomes an issue, as these provide no future value.
Current governments have been spending like mad on social welfare and other non-productive public endeavors.
@@danunpronounceable8559 There is no difference there. Social welfare is a fixed costs in the budget. You have to pay housing, food and medical for people that can't do it on their own, unless you just don't give a shit about your population, like the US. So if you spend more of the fund in infrastructure you have more infrastructure. If you spend more into the social systems with it, then the regular state budget has now more money to spend into infrastructure, you end up with the same outcome. Also there is no strict division between lasting spending and consummative. Spending more into education would be a recurring costs, but the value is a higher productivity of the population. Which can be much more valuable than a few new bridges.
You forgot the most important reason FrP is so far ahead on the poles: the price of energy in Norway. After we joined Acer and built cables to the continent and the UK our prices on energy has risen dramatically, and the only party willing to do anything about it is FrP. We used to have prices around 10 to 20 øre per kW/h, now the price regularly stays around 80 to 120 øre, that, including VAT, taxes for the net grid and what not, will easily see prices reach well over 150 øre per kW/h, which most Norwegians are seriously mad about.
FrP was literally in government and actively, vocally, supported joining both Acer and building energy cables to Germany and the UK, voting in favour of it repeatedly in parliament. The current energy crisis is a DIRECT result of policies they supported and implemented when last in government. The only parties which opposed Acer and the cables were the Centre Party, Socialist Left, Red Party and Christian People’s Party
@ Yes, but thankfully they are listening to people and soon understood they had screwed up. The good thing with populist parties is that they actually listen to people, a hated thing among mainstream parties.
Add that in Norway we depend on electricity for everything from heating to cooking, unlike Europe, which uses gas. The only alternative for heating is fire wood, and it is difficult when you are sleeping or at work.
It's funny and also sad how after a dramatic increase in energy prices due to terrible policy decisions and inflation, Norwegian electricity is still at less than half the price of what we get in the UK 😢
What so stupid about actually that, and your statement is very correct. But FrP was in the government and voted YES to building that cable. They are also responsible d they would do anything different.
Fascinating how a lot of democracies have similar trends in who gets elected. Typically when the economy is struggling or there is a lot of strife, people will vote conservatives, but when the economy is doing well and/or there is a lot of civility on both sides, people will vote progressives. This isn't always the case, but it is a trend that I've noticed.
In my own country before all of the international strife occurred post 2016 (thanks america) we would typically vote progressives when we need more government spending on infrastructure, and conservatives when progressives began to spend too much.
Nowadays it seems like political polarization has began to increase once again and people are refusing to listen to each other, and so more extreme left or right wing parties are gaining popularity.
This!
The Norwegian Progress party is not far right. In many ways it is to the left of the american Democrats.
The recent correlation of voter sentiments across so many countries is better explained, I think, by the prior governments’ coordinated adoption of the same idiotic and unpopular policies.
I don’t think there’s a previous example of such coordinated policy-making, and so also no previous example of the simultaneous rejection.
In the United States this has had the opposite trend, every recession occurred under the Republicans and subsequently elected a Democratic president until they lost their mandate and the Republicans would come in again. I think that mostly democracies punish the party in power when the economy crashes.
@@alx9ryou’re too bias to have an opinion on this, bud
I was just in Oslo and saw the Norwegian PM surrounded by paparazzi coming out of a hotel. Wasn't sure what all the drama was about. What a great video and well timed video.
0:53 Oh boy! The Norwegian parliament charts are still cursed.
Also: national electoral districts are not the same as fylke. Fylke is a geographic area that are govern by a regional government and are an administrative level between national and municipal government.
They used to cover the same geographic areas, but after many "fylker" were merged in 2018 and 2020 the electoral districts remained the same. This is due to article 57 of the constitution; which states that the country should be divided into 19 electoral districts. Thus there would need to be a constitutional amendment to make them match, which the government likely would not have managed to pass through parliament if they wanted to.
@@alekxs2k551 Yeah. The downside with the districts are that it gives a lot of power to parties that are extremely popular in one area while making it more difficult for parties with popularity more evenly spread out to get representation. Getting 1% of the vote in every district wouldn't give any seat even if it would make one deserving of 1 or 2 seats with pure PR. So it is a system that somewhat favors the established parties, so any changes there can be difficult
@@steffplaysmapping1104 oh i didnt know that, but thats unsurprising yet more power to cities while us in the country are left behind. typical
@@steffplaysmapping1104 It's an oversimplification to say the system favors established parties or urban areas. Norway uses the modified Sainte-Laguë method, which ensures proportional representation. While district mandates give some weight to regional popularity, this is balanced by leveling seats (utjevningsmandater), which ensures national proportionality.
Also, the weight of votes in smaller districts (like Finnmark) is higher due to the inclusion of an area factor. This isn't about favoring cities or rural areas but ensuring fair representation across a geographically diverse country. Small parties like Rødt and MDG have gained seats, showing the system isn't skewed against less established parties.
The design aims to balance population density and geography, not to entrench larger parties.
@Helperbot-2000 Not really. That's confirmation bias in practice. See the answer to @steffplaysmapping.
2:19 : 'The New Right' is no longer a party in Denmark, but there is a similar party called 'Danish Democrats', though its firmly in the Blue block. The Alternative is in the red one. ATM there is a center bloc consisting of 'social democrats, ventre and the moderates'
Also, Radikale Venstre should be translated to the Danish Social Liberal Party
in denmark the situation is different, your socialist party recognized that migration is the main issue and acted accordingly, being tougher than the so called center right (but not quite "right" at all)
It's the same throughout europe. Migration - specifically from muslim countries - is making society a divided, dangerous and broken place. People don't want this for their children....
Yeah, fortunately for Norway - Denmark has blocked a lot, and Sweden took the main bulk. Norway's got a lot of productive and good immigrants from Sweden and Poland instead.
@@Mosern1977norway did better in taking such immigrants
migration is not the issue. funny how there's always much talk and divide about muslim migrants, but nobody minds the migrants from all other countries in the world?
@@Mosern1977 they didn't seem very productive when I was in Oslo 4 months ago ... Norway seemed to have exactly the same issues as elsewhere in western Europe.
Where does that migration come from? What caused the migration in the first place? Do you think that these people fled their homes just because they wanted to?
I love how every time TLDR posts a video about Norway lately the comment section quickly fills up with a) Norwegians correcting or "correcting" the video's main points and b) non-Norwegians claiming that Frp is far from hard right and/or that the country is being ruined by a "wave of Muslim migration"
foreigners ar confusing us with sweden same as ushual
Neoliberal policies are ruining Norway, like all Western countries. But mass immigration and it's consequences are also real, like in most Western countries.
Yes. Even for FRP which is literally obsessed with immigrants they spent relatively little space on it in their first draft for a 2025-2029 party plan. They spent more space talking about workers from the EEA. Some people in Norway care, but I definitely think it's a minority. However they're still far right and I would be worried if they actually got a majority of votes in an election.
If you think FRP is far-right you should compare them to "similar" parties. If anything, id say FRP is as far right as Democrats are in the US. They have some outlier members, but their policies can not be categorized as far right.
As a non-Norwegian who has family in Norway, Norway is certainly getting its own version of the "grooming gangs" but since Norwegian women and children don't accept the offer the groomers are more like "pouncers". Violent rape has risen to all time highs and is rising exponentially.
Note that the extra representatives for rural areas is offset by adjustment mandates, so the popular vote is approximately reflected in the storting.
Why is Rødt missing from the graph? I think they are polling higher than the greens
I believe they both are insignificant. People are sick of them both.
@@Scybertine Rødt is polling higher than the Greens, the Liberal party (Venstre), Christian Party, and about the same as the farmers party.
Rødt is polling higher now than at last national election as well as last local election.
Their polling has been trending upward steadily for 10 years now.
So I don't see how you can say that people are tired of them.
Who cares?
At this point a political scientist needs to make a formula of Number of Somalians per capita x (some value) votes far the right
Somalian per capita × incursus constant = Far right party support
Only critique on the video is when you said “the stortinget”.
If you want to say “the” before Stortinget, you would have to say “The Storting” because in, most cases, when Norwegians add an “et” at the end of a noun it is the same thing as when English speakers add «the» befare s noun.
- The water reservoirs are full, the gas price is low, and someone is sitting and manipulating the prices. We are all being deceived because Norwegian politicians are so naive.
rating companies from abroad who sit and speculate in Norwegian electricity, and that they manipulate prices by agreeing to buy so much electricity that there is a shortage.
Norwegians have -10 to -35*c cold winters and cannot have electricty that cost this much... It cost 0.02kr to produce, but we pay on average 1-1.5kr becuse of of powers outside of our borders...
Did you check the prices lately? I pay 30-40 Øre these days. But sure, blame others for your failures in live
@@oslonafo Do you know what average means? And if you did not know, you can only buy spot price now...
At this moment it cost 90,2øre and average today is 115,1øre.
Those who live 500meter north of me pay half that price becuse of the sone changes from 1 to 2...
Please tell me why the price have been high the last years...
A note, most Norwegians are not turning aganinst the Labour party because of scandals, but rather because of the increased cost of living, with not enough salary growth.
@@heart4740 Norwegian private consume is the highest in Europe, except Luxembourg. In fact private consume in Norway is 24% above average in the 27 EU memberstates. Norwegians are particularly spending money on furniture and interiour decoration. Pitty the poor norwegian.
As a Norwegian I am really done with Jonas Gahr Støre he has done absolutely nothing only bullshiting about what he is going to do.
The man is from a rich family and has 60 million in he’s account and he lives in the richest part of Oslo while he is in AP.
He should have gone to the left side of politics instead of acting like a capitalist that wants communism 🤦♂️
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He is the perfect example of what a socialist in power is.
Støre? Communism? What? 😂
@ Are you not Norwegian or something? besides FrP and H most are holding some form of communist ideal and some are actual socialists.
It's "Stortinget" or "the Storting". The Stortinget is like saying "The The Storting".
They could also say "the big thing"
@yvindhagester9613 Or "The Asylum"...
The real simple TLDR of this is that the Labour party started their current term with the slogan "now its the everyday peoples turn" promising betterment for the everyday man. Instead everything has got worse for everyone and Labour is known for loving buraucracy similar to democrats in the US, meaning necessary changes to better the situation is slow to non existant. They also managed to keep unfavoring taxes for industry and business meaning literally no one has been made happier during their term, so then you have a "the grass is greener on the other side" situation .
I mean running Norway must be the simplest thing in the world. And they still mess it up. Their incompetence is mind boggling.
It doesn't help that our financial minister Trygve Slagsvold Vedum is completely worthless. When he calculated for everyone's future wealth due to their politics he used the highest average when he should've gone by the lowest average instead. As a result, everyone earning less than 350K NOK a year suffered.
Labour are busy doing the same in the UK too, plus they seem to be in favour of implementing 'woke' (for lack of a better familiar term) policies which are increasingly unpopular with most people and a large part of their voter base.
@@mdl2427 thats not the problem, the problem is that parties are almost only focusing on social left policies and not also economically left policies. because like usual, capital reigns supreme, and social policies dont affect the elite much, but economic ones do
Letæs not forget they are in a coalition with SP which is basically just FrP but with a pro-rural profile. I effin hate that the budget is for dying rural areas. Let it die! people in big cities are suffering because of the housing crisis, yet they pay for this nostalgic idea of a "rural Norway" which is not economically viable.
The Progress Party in Norway is in a unique position making it a bastard among parties. Because of Norway's huge oil-fortune, it is possible to sell a combination of lower taxes and huge public spending. That way the party has a solution for everything. And people swallow it hook and sinker. For some years at least.
Ironically the progress-party was against the sovereign wealth-fund and wanted our oil-revenues to be private
Makes complete sense to me to subsidize the common people's living standards with such a fund in this situation.
@@hyhhy Except by doing that you risk overheating the economy and "dutch disease"
@@hyhhy so you want Venezuela 2.0
@ So you're basically saying that globalists stole Norway's oil fund. Figures.
While the cause of the current RW shift is the stuff of whole academic careers, I can see two issues:
- Left wing parties became parties of social rather than economic justice. Not that the former is bad, but the issue is that economic just a) affects more people and b) aids social justice, but social justice does not aid economic justice. Like it or not, this has created field of people who feel precarious but don't see any positive change from mainstream leftwing parties.
- Voters have become infantilized. On the other end of blame, it's clear we don't like to think to hard about complex issues, and the only people with the shameless guile to offer simple solutions are populists. I did think it was funny that despite Norway being the textbook example of why countries should NOT sell off their strategic resources, the privatization party is surging. I know that's not the only policy they have, but libertarianism is so at odds with the entire reason Norway is so wealthy it's hilarious they seem to be winning.
The problem is that while having a massive sovereign wealth fund, Norway is still a high-tax society. That irks a lot of Norwegians and FRP in particular have stated aim of using sovereign wealth to alleviate tax burden
@@johnpminisand selling everything to blackrock.
I would like to mention that yes, while populists offer simple solutions to complicated problems (and nearly always fail to deliver once they're in power, while being highly efficient in demolishing democracy), the established parties in most European countries have been failing to deliver the complicated solutions to complicated problems for decades now.
Im from Norway and have been a subscriber since the first days of brexit videoes. I just wanted to say that it is refreshing to see an outside view of our politics i these strange times. And reassuring to see that you cover the subject very well.
Keep up the good work. ❤
This is not a pro Russian party, the reason people want to vote for them is because of bad economic steering of the current government. They also want to stop idiotic green investments that don’t work, and they say they want less regulations and less public spending. They also have a though stance on immigration.
Sounds like a rather shit party then when ya put it that way lol
green investments are not idiotic, neither is high public spending in a welfare state like norway. immigration is the only reasonable thing on their charts, and that isn't even in the top 5 most pressing issues in norway.
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@@adamelghalmi9771No, taxes in Norway are suffocating and public waste is enormous. Ridiculous wealth taxes with a threshold so low that upper middle class people pay it, insanely progressive income tax, high property tax, high car taxes, high alcohol taxes, high gas taxes. Eventually our government will figure out how to tax the air we breathe. FRP are somewhat right libertarian, they are the only party that truly wants less taxes and a flatter tax system that rewards work. Høyre and Labour are too similar.
@@adamelghalmi9771the modern climate change movement is basically secular religion at this point. No amount of evidence that the technology isn't there yet and that the average person (as opposed to jet setting billionaires and wasteful industry practices) has little responsibility for the human impact is enough for the zealots, who ironically tend to be pretty militantly atheist as well. Basically every country that chooses to virtue signal with green energy ends up importing a large amount of energy from elsewhere, and those countries typically don't have the green agenda in mind. But hey, at least westerners get to feel good looking at their pretty windmills while they stuff the pockets of 3rd world oligarchies
"... the Progress Party, whose current leader, Sylvi List-hag..." - 3:57 I lol'd
Very fitting. I do not like her one bit.
Even though im norwegian i like watching international news about this country just to see what people think of it
I’m Canadian and feel the exact same, and the last few weeks have been kind to me (Trudeau resigning has been the only international news here for a while)
I am turkish and for some reason i just have good impression of norway in most ways its geography looks good, national fund is good(turkey have too but the companies that gets connected to it just fare worse because of corruption but norwegian one seems to work) overall i see it as a perfect tho its citizens might think otherwise...
Nope. Not the "passengers being unruly" again. I will never use Brilliant if that's part of their ad campaign.
I remember a couple months of ago when people were saying every left wing party should follow Norway's Labour party on immigration. I told people to move your position more right will only make people go with the real thing. No matter what any left wing party does on immigration that is deemed strict, it wont help you. People will go to the most extreme because the people are radicalized. I don't agree with these people's views but I honestly think it's inevitable, history does repeat itself. In times of economic discomfort, this will happen.
it worked for the danes, but they did go "extreme" (it's not extreme at all, even in the early modern period gypsies were recognized as a problem and they were banished for their criminal practices, we should do the same individually but then to the country that fits them best culturally and ethnically,
legally it can't be done yet but laws can be changed
unrelated question: do they have yeti in norway?
@@vulkanofnocturne Yes, but we call them Trolls😉
Yeah they’re pretty common
Yeah they've got quite a few big ladies 😅
No. But we do have trolls(that are not the same as yeti).
Yes, we live up north.
Fantastic news! God bless Norway!
With love from the UK.
Seems like Norway just follows the trend set by the rest of Europe 🤷🏻♀️
As a Progress Party member, I don’t think it is right to say that we want to increase public spending that much anymore. Actually these days there is heightened exasperation among the public that government spending is out of control, and Progress is the most outspoken critic of increased spending on things that aren’t really essential, such as bureaucracy, culture and subsidies. For the last couple of years Progress’ alternative national budgets have entailed a level of spent oil money on par with the current government, but we have at least shown a different priority. I’ve been one of those in the party who have championed spending cuts on non-essential stuff, and this is where the party has been heading for the last couple of years. Progress as as big oil money spender party is a thing of the past. It’s time for limited government, more freedom, stronger borders and more business friendliness.
Yet another political turmoil and crisis, here we come!
Crisis in Norway means no butter in the stores.
@@Mosern1977 Too soon.
30% of workers in Norway are public employees, 10-15% of the working age are on disability. 70% of the export is oil/gas, our biggest export beside this is fish which is 3%. Governments over the years have done nothing to improve entrepreneurship and have instead built a tax wall to keep rich people from leaving.
Progress Party is the only large party which want to downsize the state, let people keep more of their money and improve business conditions
The main reason for this big shift I would say is that we are having a generational shift: Boomers -> Millennials
My grandparents generation which unofficially was called the _Post-War_ generation and what made them better than Boomer and Millennials is how united and nationalistic they were. If they had seen how much immigrants they would have shot their kids in anger, because I remember one my grandpa got very angry when the national news TV channel NRK announced that Swedes was coming over as immigrants. How do you think they would react on far-far-immigration like Muslims? The _Post-War_ generation was thought to protect every inch of our national boarders. So when I see swings like this I am not surprised because there has not been held a democratic vote over if to allow immigration or not. I will end this with that as a Norwegian I am no longer interested in national politics because in practice we aren't really a democracy unlike Switzerland.
I am a boomer and you are spot on! Norway is f....d!
A more accurate translation would be: Post-War Generation. After-war is a more literal translation that does not work as well in English.
Overall a very minor nitpick in an otherwise good comment.
If the after war generation thing has to do with the problem is that we are now so distant from WWII that people forgot that it’s a nightmare to be ruled by fascists.
@@Ozzianman You're right. I'll edit my post
“Aren’t really a democracy?” Norway is usually listed as the most democratic country in the world…
I'm very curious what the causal percentages are behind FRP's rise regarding these four things:
Responding to Europe or World-wide anti-immigrant sentiments / Responding to local on-the-ground effects of immigration / Disaffection with traditional parties / Specific policy disagreements totally unrelated to immigration like energy & taxes
I imagine a lot of the international viewers draw strong conclusions based on their own prior assumptions even though they have no idea what Norwegians actually think. I'm Norwegian and even I don't really know for certain what cause is more prevalent and by how much percentage wise.
Fun fact FRP (short for "Fremskritspartiet", refered to in the video as "The Progress Party") originally was named "Anders Langes Parti til sterk nedsettelse av skatter, avgifter og offentlige inngrep" ("Anders Lange's Party for Strong Reduction of Taxes, Fees, and Public Interventions"). Also, even though it's the "progress" party, it is not for actual progress.
Much like the Arbeiderpariet/Labor Party which is not for arbeidere/workers.
One man's progress is another's not actual progress. That's the nature of words like that, they're relative.
A woman has child number 5 and thinks "I'm making progress in my family" and the feminist across the streets thinks "she's conforming to gender roles, we're not making progress as a society".
TL;DR you don't know how words work.
I'm no fan of FrP, but that depends on what is meant by progress. Somehow I don't trust you (who are you?) to have the absolute definition. Progressives don't have a monopoly on progress. The future could progress in "non-progressive" ways.
"Progress" is debatable. If you think in the positivist way of "order and progress" then yeah, they are progressive. If you think with the liberal left mindset of progress being essentially just social equality, then they aren't.
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As a Norwegian both parties have failed us, unwillingly and undemocratically forced us closer to the EU, and have become "fat and lazy" while gorging themselves on our taxes!
The biggest reason for this it seems is much the same as most of Europe, with career politicians that are ideologically driven, dominating national politics, without actually having any experience in the fields they are supposed to govern.
There has also been many scandals surrounding both parties, with prominent politicians being caught enriching themselves while the average citizens is getting poorer.
We are definitly ready for changes, and a public longing for sensibel policies from competent politicians, that put our national interests above that of the corrupt EU!
I can't see FRP correcting this. If so, they would probably bring Norway closer to US dependence. Witch will be far worse. I'm not pro EU.. AT ALL.. But FRP ideologically is Tatcher/Reaganism. And that is some messed up sheit for any country.
@humushumus2219 Yeah, I dont see FRP as a solution either, too much simplistic politics, and not enough longe term/holistic vision/agenda. Im currently looking at INP personally as the party most aligned with my own wishes for our nation.
I read something about a not so smart implementation of an unrealised gains tax, forcing hundreds of entrepreneurs out of the country, because it was impossible to pay that tax. As you say, politicians without any actual experience.
@@AreEia I would argue INP is even worse
@burgienl Yes! And both parties mentioned here has made this situation a lot worse over the last decades. This has a lot to do with a ideological fixation on the "green shift" and outsourcing/importing everything. In this regard our Nordic neighbours beat us by miles! Overall, many of our politicians are driven by theory/ideology, without much common sense or sound fiscal/economical ideas. Again, people without much actual work/life experience outside of the political "bubble".
I think Norway is a bit of a unique case as there are specific scandals in both parties.
In my opinion, labour has gotten rid of all its ideals and is essentially a non-party today with very few reasons to vote them above other parties on the left.
The conservatives have suffered a lot due to the scandals surrounding Erna Solberg.
I am currently quite worried about the next election as we will likely either get a prime minister from the progress party or one that has been engaged in insider trading. Only way this ends well is if erna steps down as leader of the conservatives or there is a massive swing to the left
I don't like Labour, but they haven't actually done that bad of a job, especially compared to Høyre & FrP.
Labour just had the misfortune of entering into government one month before the European energy prices started going through the roof.
So people blame them.
Even though the reason we are affected so much by European energy prices is that all the right-wing parties (H, FrP, V) and one of the centrist ones (Labour, though half-heartedly) pushed for connecting more cables to UK and Europe dueing the last decade, and subscribing to the EU energy regulations.
Both left-wing parties (R, SV) and the centrist agarian party (Sp) fought against this.
The centre/centre-right KrF were half against, half for.
You must have rose-colored glasses! I'm a Conservative voter, but I try to be objective. I don't dislike Labor, but I have no love for SP. I think all the parties are trying to do their best for the people/country. All governments have to handle the disasters and market conditions we live in.
Labor isn't usually a disaster, but this government has not been great. Especially by comparison with the previous Conservative government that handled several waves of problems. Even if you ignore all the Labor government's scandals, I see a lot of slow and strange decision making, that is the main difference I see. SP has not improved things, Labor would have done better alone.
As I studied EU/EEA law, I think you have a very simplistic view of our European relations and energy market. I certainly don't think you framed this right or that there is someone to blame.
One of the main reasons they have such a big voter share is that they (sadly) are the only big political party in Norway that outright say they want less immigration. Less these days compared to before, but still. I doubt they would achieve that even as a coalition leader.
The party is otherwise a big joke with a few "populist" ideas that don't really matter when you look at the bigger picture, as well as politics that clearly benefit the rich and not most people. They're big on wanting to spend resources without thinking about the consequences.
I live in Norway, when Støre grabbed power he did like Starmer, increased taxes on businesses, I run a business, and had to make strategic changes to avoid pay ludicrous ly high income tax. He has done nothing good, he is like a weak Trudeau, Biden or Starmer, and I hope he ends up driving a taxi after the next election, but we all know hids EU and WEdF friends will find him a cushy job, well paid with free health care and no taxes. Much like an ealier Labour party PM here, who wanted Norway out of NATO is his early days, then cut defence spending when in government, then when he was general sectetary of NATO went around saying everyone should pay more. Labour party re full of duplicitous hypocrites and I hope they get what they deserve
Although the current government hasn't delivered, people are very quick to abandon their own ideals and values just because "well the other party say price go down". Then what? We start complaining as soon as they take office about how things aren't as easy as they said it would be, that things aren't improving fast and then we're all going to go back voting for Labour because now they're saying they'll fix the problem.
I love Norway. They are not a part of EU. They are the richest nation on earth now. Look at their oil fund. They have the right to put their country and their citizen first
The main parties are declining because the people disagree with them, its really that simple.
It's called Progress because their plan is to Progress back a few decades to when Norway had a state religion
There is an additional factor to take into account.
In the Nordic countries, there is a tradition of the Nordic agrarian parties. They are often called "Centre" parties and traditionally occupy a "center" space between the socialist/social democrat left and the business conservative right. These parties maintain somewhat heterodox views, being nationalistic (many being soft Euroskeptic) but also very rural, in favor of decentralization and in general have a slight libertarian bent. For many decades they played a major kingmaker role between the left and the right.
However, globalization and urbanization have basically decimated those parties. That has resulted in many of their former base turning towards these new harder right parties.
The labour party and "right" part have essentially fielded the same policies. Both have failed the people miserably, financially and socially.
Sounds familiar
Very similar to the UK with the 2 main parties collapsing and a further right option surging
SHOCKING! HOW COULD THIS BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?!
New era of Vikings lesgo. I vote Erling Haaland as PM and Odegaard as VPM
all i know about scandi political parties is that a funny guy i listened to that one time called all their center parties criminal organisations.
seems that people started agreeing with him
1:40
Yes I agree, because if you don't do this you see that large areas of a country get completely ignored.
What this causes is that the rural areas will then radicalize against people from the cities, you see this in many European nations.
If this is not stopped violence will at some point be the result
Here's something interesting. In Cambodia, rural Cambodians wish for a return of the Khmer Rouge regime despite how much they suffered under it. Their wellbeing dropped to rock bottom but since the urbanites of the country were worse off (dead), it was a worthwhile trade to them.
@@roland228 I am not saying rural populations are always right, but even if power is technically distributed fairly as in each person has the same voting power.
People in rural populations will feel disenfranchised due to all the power centered in usually more liberal urban centers.
For smaller countries this usually isn't a massive deal, because enough can be done to appease rural populations by listening to their issues and resolving them, the larger a nation is the less this seems to happen.
@ Considering my Cambodia example, it doesn't look like the rurals of countries even have their own wellbeing in mind.
The overview @2:13 has several mistakes in the Denmark section:
1. The two parties you listed as non-bloc may claim to be so, but in practice they are not. "The New Right" is a far right party, further to the right than most of the blue bloc parties you listed. They would never form a government with any red bloc party.
2. Similarly "The Alternative" is a solidly red bloc party fairly far to the left. Even pollsters don't list these parties as "non-bloc".
3. You're completely missing several parties: Denmark Democrats (far right), Moderates (claim to be non-bloc but is solidly Right), and possibly soon including "Citizens' Party" (Right).
I like the explanation from Trond Giske from the Labour Party, where he uses the theory of David Goodhart to separate between "Anywheres" and "Somewheres" when it comes to voting and what political parties focus on. It's a bit more complicated than globalist vs. nationalist, but related.
The traditional parties have become way too much focused on "anywheres" with idiotic stances on green policies and dysfunctional trans national energy market at the expense of normal people in the country they are supposed to rule.
But, as a Norwegian. And probably you also are. We are making a shit ton of money right now. Yes prices are way to high. And it’s on fortunate that we are obliged to sell electric to the EU. We still buy energy from them. But anyways. The pipeline that sends that electricity was voted to be built by FrP. They wanted to make those profits. It’s not labours fault that the EU doesn’t get electricity from Russia anymore. But eventually the world will tune normal again. Just keep good faith, and believe in the welfare state! It’s the only way of wich the normal citizen will be safe in the future. And Norway does lie to rule a future if we don’t fuck up by spending all our savings on problems now. If you want to vote opposition, I am saying it will not make any change other then possibly destroying the future. That why I will urge, if voting opposition vote the center conservatives (høyre). Or else keep faith in labour. Norway is build on trust. And that’s what makes it an utopia.
Norwegian here. The test of any media is when they comment on things you know well.
The dice roll in this instance is probably three or four out of six. Not horrible, but not great either.
Labour (Arbeiderpartiet) is failing for multiple reasons. It was founed as a party for regular blue collar workers, but have turned into a party for academics, where the leaders haven't worked with their hands a single day of their lives. They also have an UNcharismatic leader (Støre) who cannot even answer basic questions, like what their policies are. And they have absolutely no clue how to solve the insane inflation going on right now.
The conservative party (Høyre), is failing for two reasons. They promise lower taxes but do the opposite. And they're the reason why Norway entered ACER, the European electric power organisation, forcing us to export way too much el. power, and becoming a part of the European power grid, which skyrocketed el. costs in Southern Norway. Thank god I live in the north, completely unaffected by this crap.
Btw, what's your source for claiming that Labour will be "raising spending from the wealth fund"? Because that's ILLEGAL. They can spend the PROFIT, but they can NOT touch the fund itself.
The number one danger with our economic model is government wasting and and the incapability of the public sector to compete in the international market. The private sector always wins in this regard. These politicians of ours are not competent enough to use the money we have gotten rich on in the oil industry and convert it into further growth. I think the oil has hidden some of the deep rooted issues until know, as oil begins to face out over time there is a lack of incentive for foreign investment into the future hindering further growth as it is very hard to start up companies here due to the heavy taxes. This is why there is a shift to the "right sided" parties as it is simply the only solution to have a more free economy to solve these issues. But this is only the tip of the iceberg.
As a Norwegian, I see more reasons to vote for the progressive party, spending less money on expensive symbolic policies, such as the green shift, tougher immigration policy and taxes.
if you ever need an example on how being distracted by short term gains can screw you over, look at the US.
and since 2024 was the hottest year on record, and first to break the 1.5c threshold, 10 years earlier than predicted, climate policies are one of the most important investments we can make. a tougher climate means worse crop yields, hydroelectric power plants becoming less effective, more forest fires, and more brutal winters. and talking about wasting money on symbolic policies, getting rid of immigrants will not pay off more than it would to keep them. even getting such a program started can cost hundreds of millions, maybe billions to get started. for example, Trumps immigration plan is projected to cost 40 billion on its own
lower taxes may seem nice at first, until food and electricity costs more and more each year, and society getting more divided as politicians search for another ethnic group to blame all out problems on. its honestly disappointing to see people turn this way
@@CrispyMuffin2short term gains? You talk about? We in Europe see that year by year by year by year by year...
@CrispyMuffin2 The green shift alone costs the Norwegian state about 50 billion nok a year, as well as the fact that Norway is starting to have the same problem as in Sweden with Muslim immigration, which the Progressive Party will focus on with a stricter immigration policy than today.
@@Kvannkjos im more wondering why the immigration stuff is a problem. and you not liking foreign people is not a viable reason
on the other hand, im more than happy to have us invest a good chunk of money if it means keeping our planet safe to live on for future generations. and we are only seeing the beginning of whats to come if we keep polluting. if you know much about Norway, you should know how much the summer droughts in the recent years have harmed our farming industry
if we are able to earn trillions through pollution, we should be able to spend some tens of billions to try and reduce it to safe levels. yeah it will sting financially, but investing in our future is the most important thing we can do right now
@@Kvannkjos It's gonna cost a lot more long term doing nothing about the climate, it's gonna bite us in the ass
1:37 this is a good thing, and if you don't understand why, look at any state in the USA that has a big city that dominates the state's politics to the point where no one outside the city ever gets a say.
If you want a real Answers have a look at Oslo city centre, where Somali and Eretrinen men making havoc and terror, you feel like you are in some third word Bangladesh
lol. lmao even. lmfao.
it also smelt like boiled piss, and trash everywhere on the street in the muslim dominated areas
have you been to Oslo, or are you just speaking out your ass cause you need an excuse to hate on people for any reason you can come up with?
You've never been to Oslo, have you?
you used the old map of the states of Norway, it's been updated a few years ago
Is Europe turning right wing 🤔😱
Nah, its more that the countries that are feeling cumulative inflation + effects of the ukraine war are flipping:
MOVED LEFT TO RIGHT (8):
Finland (center-left to right)
France (center to center-right leaning)
Italy (technocratic to right)
Netherlands (center-right to further right)
Portugal (center-left to center-right)
Sweden (center-left to right)
Czech Republic (populist center to center-right)
Cyprus (center-right to different center-right)
MOVED RIGHT TO LEFT (4):
Germany (center-right to center-left coalition)
Poland (right-wing nationalist to center-left)
Slovenia (right to center-left)
Slovakia (center-right to left-populist)
STABLE/MAINTAINING (15):
Austria (center-right)
Belgium (center coalition)
Bulgaria (pro-EU coalition)
Croatia (center-right)
Denmark (centrist coalition)
Estonia (liberal coalition)
Greece (center-right)
Hungary (strong right)
Ireland (center-right)
Latvia (center-right coalition)
Lithuania (center-right coalition)
Luxembourg (center-right coalition)
Malta (center-left)
Romania (center-right coalition)
Spain (center-left coalition)
@@lurifaks92 europe is so centrist bruh
We don't want to live in Brazil 2.0
@@lurifaks92 Poland is more centre/centre-left, ditto for Germany.
In Slovakia there are two social democratic parties in government (both nationalist and conservative, socially right-wing) and one right-wing/far right party.
In Italy the majority of the coalition is made up of two right-wing/far right parties, only one is centre-right (Forza Italia).
In France, however, I wouldn't rush to judge the situation, Macron and the Republicans have lost a lot of votes, the most voted party is right-wing/far right.
@@lurifaks92 More generally, if we look at polls and elections, it's clear that across Europe the more right-wing/far-right parties have increased their importance.
United Kingdom: Reform UK
Romania: AUR and S.O.S Romania
Poland: Konfederacja
Germany: AFD
France: Rassemblement National
Italy: Brothers of Italy
Spain: VOX
Portugal: Chega!
Bulgaria: Revival
At this point it feels like the revolution mechanic from eu4. Just got to deal with it when you get an event.
So, its the same as everywhere.
It seems like even in a parliamentary system there isn't much choice.
STEM FRP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The extra profit on oil and gas isn't real. Sure, prices are up and technically that means Norway is earning a lot on it. But the norwegian citizen is paying more for that same oil. More for groceries, and more for water. Houses and cars are unaffordable, and the real income for almost any job, except miraculously a politicians', is down. Again. Where's the money? It's both aiding Ukraine and waging war at the same time. It's used in an absurd amount of 'administrative' government cost. And it's accruing rates in fonds for a pension that will never come.
Finally...
There is always a difference in polls and actual election results. FRP (progressives) usually get more protest votes in polls, but when the election day arrives people tend to be more moderate. We saw the same thing with SP (center party) who is in the coalition with Labour. They had a massive growth in polls before almost collapsing at election day.
Even the most high ranking country in allmost all social indicators has such a big lead for RW party means that it's time politicans in EU start having a really hard look at how they do immigration because Today it's austria and Norway .....in few years it'll be AFD that will be having their support in mid 30s
I think that if even the highest ranking country in almost all social indicators votes so much for far right it means that it's a moot point. Why would they vote for a problem that clearly doesn't affect them?
@@enrico6176because they see what happens when Islamists take over a country like it happened to Sweden and don’t want it in their own country. It’s called having a brain and common sense. Try it sometime.
They will not do this. Migration pumps their stocks. They do not care about the social problems if its making them richer.
They will not do this. Migration pumps their stocks. They do not care about the social problems if its making them richer.
The AfD has already reached its voter potential though. Most people know that voting for the AfD is categorically wrong, there wont be much of a surge past the 22% mark. The more scary thing is that the CDU might enter a coalition with the AfD which would be possible considering current polling numbers and indications by the CDU.
I sincerely hope that people realize quickly how bad a hostile migrant policy would be and reconcider accordingly.
Hasn’t the danish and Swedish block-politics systems been destroyed?
The sweden democrats support the current moderate, liberal and kd government, whiles the liberal centre party would support a socdem and greens coalition without the left.
In Denmark they have a grand coalition with socdems, venstre and their moderates
For Norway specifically, the following is on Wikipedia:
"In 2017, a Statistics Norway report on crime in Norway was ordered by the immigration minister Sylvi Listhaug.[15] According to Statistics Norway, since there is a generally low proportion of crime across all resident populations, it limited the scope of the paper to figures for individual nations from which at least 4,000 immigrants lived in Norway as of 1 January 2010.[16] In the 2010-2013 period, the proportion of foreign-born perpetrators of criminal offences aged 15 and older per 1000 residents in Norway was found to be highest among immigrants from South and Central America (164.0), Africa (153.8), and Asia including Turkey (117.4), and lowest among immigrants from Eastern Europe (98.4), other Nordic countries (69.1), and Western Europe outside the Nordic region (50.7). This was compared to averages of 44.9 among native Norwegians and 112.9 among Norway-born residents with parents of foreign origin.[17] Among individual countries of origin for which figures were provided, the estimated proportion of foreign-born perpetrators was highest among immigrants from Kosovo (131.48), Afghanistan (127.62), Iraq (125.29), Somalia (123.81), and Iran (108.60). Over-representation largely depended on variables such as gender and age structure (M2) and employment (M4), with residence (M3) having a negligible effect on the total. When adjusted for these variables, the unadjusted proportion (M1) of the foreign-born perpetrators of criminal offences during the same period dropped significantly in the adjusted estimates: Kosovo (113 M2; 106 M4), Afghanistan (93 M2; 85 M4), Iraq (102 M2; 92 M4), Somalia (102 M2; 89 M4), and Iran (98 M2; 91 M4). Immigrants from Poland were the only over-represented population for which all three adjustable variables, including residence, could explain their over-representation.[13]"
Probably the most significant individual line is the following:
"This was compared to averages of 44.9 among native Norwegians and 112.9 among Norway-born residents with parents of foreign origin."
Might have something to do with current political trends. I mean, would you support parties who continue, decade after decade, to import immigrants who rob, rape and kill you at great disproportionate rates, and force you to pay for the privilege by having your money distributed to them through taxation and welfare, to have comfortable familiarity replaced with a sense of being an alien on your own land?
Why is the Red party absent from your graph?
It's bigger than the Green party.
Arguably on par with the center party's current poll numbers.
Because it's against their agenda
Most likely just an oversight, or intentional as they're completely irrelevant as no-one wants to join a coalition with them. Their voters are mentally disabled or on dagpenger, so when their party leader got caught stealing he got away scot free by blaming it on "mental illness" and his voters bought into it. Isn't that crazy?
There's only a 1.2% difference between Rødt and Miljøpartiet De Grønne
@@ArkBlanc
True. But then why are MdG on that chart, and not Rødt?
If it's a matter of limiting the graph to the top six, Rødt should be tracked in place of MdG.
@ Beats me, but I doubt it was done with ill intent. Probably just a mess-up from the editor.
I feel like most of Norwegian-societal issues stems from our education not allowing students to progress at different rates therefore only the targeted group for progress will have desirable difficulty, and because of that at least one third and more likely two thirds of students are going to fall behind and never get any real dividends on most of their time in education. This in turn puts ever greater strain on the economy, people only see the economy struggling and not necessarily the root cause being that the amount of people dependent on government subsidies are ever growing. Beware I am extremely biased towards education having allot of untapped potential.
I would respectfullly advise avoiding this alternance of excessive reading speed and slow speed (in the idea of demonstrating ease with the language and dynamism), but instead focusing on pronouncing all syllables correctly and maintaining consistent speed. After that we can increase the speed through settings if we want.
I'm sorry that your brain isn't capable of keeping up with the pace of fluently spoken English.
in Norway the immigration question isnt as big anymore, its more the energy politics that are causing harm to the conservative party, both the major parties in norway want immigration and more cables to Germany, something the general populous doesnt want, but more and more parties are switching up on immigration, mainly decreasing though no remigration or full stop
its also important to note that the labour party runs "now its the regular peoples turn" as a slogan and that won them alot of votes, but were also facing a big economic problems, and they are in favour of exporting massive amounts of power as it seems our politicians view the Norwegian democratic positions as a stepping stone towards better jobs in the eu, were having record breaking power costs year after year while exporting 30 ish terrawatts per year
Stem Frp🍎
its important to note that frp, the progress pary, are in practice left of democrats on many of the actual issues that matter.
Let me explain:
the american democrats may seem like one step away from commies if you take their more "outspoken" members like AOC at face value. But this is mostly on token issues like pronouns, racial issues and abortion. In practice their policies are only left of republicans, not left of norwegian ones. they keep sending weapons and money to israel. they fund private healthcare with goverment money, enriching the rich, rather than nationalizing the healthcare system. All the choices that actually impact americans and the world are made in a very rigth leaning way compared to scandinativan politics. frp dose not want to privatize the healthcare system and give it to the rich, rather they want to deregularize private healthcare as an alternative.
Europe is waking up! We are tired of this systematic islamization of europe by liberals!
the only difference between this and literal nazi propaganda is that you are blaiming islamic people instead of jews
Touch grass
@sandsilly not all fash like Naz and dislike jews
You better stop thinking it's about Islam and realise it's about the people, not their religion. Then you would have woken up.
@ never said he did just said its scarily similar
Please where did you buy your jacket? :D
just like Germany the CDU And SDP And now the AfD Wil be 1st or 2nd place in feb 2025.
Doesnt matter. They wont be able to form a coalition anyways. That might happend in the 2029/30 election tho
Just don't do regional representation and use nationwide party list.. Simple.
If you wanna contact an MP, you should be able to contact all of them (whoever you feel represents YOU the most, not your constituency).
If you REALLY still want constituency MPs, then just allocated these PR electes MPs each to a constituency where their party has won a plurality.
I'm leaning Right nowadays
Good stuff. Don't expect anyone in politics to actually be on your (the people's) side, but still, good.
Same
Too bad a lot of RW people are absolute morons
It's not the first time FrP has been big in Norway and they were the second biggest party earlier in the 2000s, keep in mind the latest poll again showed Høyre (conservatives) as the biggest party.
It's also important to note that SP had a populist wave in early 2021 as well, but they lost a lot of traction towards the election.
Sylvi Listhaug is also not more popular than Erna Solberg. Prime minister polls shows that more people want Solberg as PM than Støre and Listhaug combined. Some factual errors in this video.
Labor (Arbeiderpartiet) long since stopped representing labor, Progress (Fremskrittspartiet) is anti-progress and Conservative (Høyre) are mostly just Progress if it was slightly less racist.
I am not looking forward to this years election. Labor sucks and doesn't do enough for people, but Progress and Conservative are actively harmful to healthcare, education, public transportation and so on.
The stortinget is like saying the the storting btw, either the storting or stortinget
Good 4 norway. Vote right. Or end up like canada or France or America
What does that have to do with anything...?
@adamdaniel8909 do u live under cave
America and France are where they are right now cause the right were in power
Why is a video about Norway on the TLDR EU channel?
Stem FrP / Vote FrP 💙
No, never. FRP is absolutely not a party you'd vote for if you want things to become better. Even the current government is better by far than FRP.
@ lol - piss off 👍 Lets keep our money to ourselves and dont send it out of the country. 58 billion NOK to be spend by the goverment in foreign aid is borderline insane. Ukraina yes, the rest of the money graving states in Afrika and the middle east a big fat NO.
nah, im not racist
So racist vote FrP? Utter clueless mong.
@sandsilly
No one in their right mind cares if you call them racist. The term has been used too much and is no longer valid.
Seems like we're living in an era where our institutions are failing and there needs to be some maintenance.
As a Norwegian. I will proclaim that I am terrified by this. And I’m honestly I don’t understand why it’s happening. I think we actually have become to spoiled. And that living like normal people has made the population angry. It’s because of price which the labour government can’t control. And the center Conservative Party is also a good party. Like if you want to vote on opposition vote for the «conservative». Because, it’s like my mother says. And she is a very wise woman. FrP is the only major party not in it for the people of Norway but for the rich upper class(themselfs).
What also makes me frightened by the rise of the progress party, is that Norway just found a lot of rear resources. FrP wants to invite private companies to buy right for these, instead of ensuring that an already very rich Norway can utilize and build up a more secure future, where we the people get the most from future profits. This is the way every other party wants to grow our natural resource industry.
Ps: the «conservative» party is not really conservative. It’s about a bit more free market, but also protecting the welfare state, wich Norway is build upon. The FrP or the party in topic here is the very liberal/totally free market state. It is against funding all the welfare wich Norway gives its population. But its utilizing the bad fervor in the country to gain support.
the recent wars and disasters are absolutely the #1 reason life is getting more costly. Russia cutting of gas and oil, making us the primary supplier to EU, Ukraine, the biggest grain producer on Earth is basically in ruins, and climate change making it harder to farm crops, all of it comes from these events
but people fail to realize. immigration is only a byproduct of all that, not the cause. getting rid of those people will only cause more problems elsewhere, and make life here no better than it was a month ago
but im willing to believe its just a loud minority wanting to cause a ruckus. i have yet to meet someone in person who agree with what im hearing online
I am also Norwegian, generally tired of top politicians that keeps on overpromising and straight up lying. This goes for a lot of the mainstream political parties. I give my vote to smaller parties like the Pirate Party (Piratpartiet). I do not care that it is a small and mostly irrelevant party at this point compared to the early 2010s where they entered Norwegian politics with a bang due to Datalagringsdirektivet, I consider this a better use of my vote than simply voting blank.
Arbeiderpartiet became lite version of Høyre and are often nicknamed Arbeidsgiverpartiet. They deserve their decreasing vote numbers.
Høyre is Partiet de rike (The Party of the Rich).
Fremskrittspartiet is a populist party started by wackos that have become more moderate with time, it still has some of those wackos in it. Even the moderates within FRP acknowledge this.
The three parties above are generally in favour of policies benefitting the rich. Personally, I do not like any of them. To be clear, I am against how SMALLER companies are being drained for money due to heavy taxation to the point they have hard time expanding. I do think the rich should pay their share of the tax, but we should not tax them to the point they want to move out of Norway. That is money moving out of the country, which is bad. As for the rest of the parties:
Senterpartiet have been useless, this is coming from someone who are within their target demographic. I was born and raised rural and I am heavily in favour of decentralisation. I want to vote for them, but they keep on giving me reasons to not vote for them.
Miljøpartiet De Grønne are too zealous in their fervor. I do think their influence is a force of good, but they need to mellow a bit if they want broader support.
Venstre? I genuinely forgot about them, they are kinda just there in the background not drawing much attention.
Rødt stays memorable because of the comedy in the worst fall they have had: Moxnes being a klepto, stealing sunglasses and struggling to accept responsibility. I genuinely think this would not become as big as it did if he just admitted it. While I disagree with a lot of their policies, most of their top politicians do seem to be grounded which is saying a lot when compared to the other big parties who are firmly within the elite.
Pasientfokus, they are not even a registered party and I am surprised they even got a seat. That seat is the only reason I am mentioning them because I am impressed they achieved that.
Kristelig Folkeparti, may any religious party go further into irrelevancy. Religion and politics should not be mixed.
@@Ozzianman kan forstå hva du mener, og nice at du bruker stemmeretten din! Men jeg synes du glemmer noe, og det er jo hvem som bryr seg kanskje mest om de øvre klassene. Og personlig vil jeg jo ikke si meg enig i din analyse av hva Arbeiderpartiet står eller jobber for. Jeg synes de fremdeles prøver å hjelpe arbeiderklassen, mens Høyre er mer blitt lignende i at de er partiet for den nye arbeiderklasse i Norge, som er de høyere utdannede. Personlig så mener jeg at FrP er egentlig det eneste av de store partiene som absolutt bare er der for egeninteresser. De vil jo svekke de gode kvaliteter som gjør at Norge er det beste landet i verden.
Også, jeg er ikke så imot et parti basert på hvem som var der, men hva ideologien står for. Alle har feil, inkludert oss.
Jeg er enig med deg i analysen av de andre partiene! Hvertfall mdg
Min hovedkritikk av FrP er heller ikke rettet så mye mot de helt forferdelige ekstreme parter av partiet. Jeg beklager de ikke. Men jeg mener FrPs økonomiske agenda ikke er noe som vil sikre en god fremtid for Norge.
I agree with your criticisms of FrP (actually a good critique and not "oh my god this is like so right wing and so scary because reasons", which is what I was expecting from your use of "terrified"), but thinking that Norway has even a single party that's "in it for the people" is very naïve, let alone thinking that every party except FrP is. Sadly, perhaps the most principled party is Rødt ("the Reds"), unfortunately their leader is morally bankrupt and their politics are equally "helt bak mål".
The overview at 2:11 is outdated as far as Denmark is concerned. It maybe applied at the 2019 election, but by now most people treat the Alternative as part of the red bloc. And New Right, although de facto dead, was part of the blue bloc before its leader quit it.
Also two new parties have obtained parliamentary representation since then.
Good time to move to Norway? I'm already learning Bokmål Norsk
Its pretty hard to screw up Norway more than the current government has managed. So I'd say - yes, any change will be for the better.
@Mosern1977, you're in for a surprise then
Norway has already left its peak golden age, so any change now cant really be that damaging. But politics in Norway has been for the most part been made up of keeping the status quo. Høyre is the government for sometime, then AP is the government for some time and vice versa. Politics wise we've stayed mostly the same since the 90s.
@@Mosern1977 Any change will be for the better? Just keep having more random people come here and see what happens? Absolutely not.
The two main issues as far as I can tell are the decline in purchasing power, and the large amounts of immigration. The issues are basically the same as in every western europe country.