Do Motorcycle Rope Plug Puncture Repairs Last? | Bonus Ironic FAIL! 😂
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Motorcycles get punctured a lot, odds are it will happen to a brand new tire too!
Over a year ago I fitted a rope plug repair in the rear tire of my Yamaha XJ6 and left it to see how long they last. Many people have told me they are good for the life of the tire, here is what I have learned!
Also, I have some pretty bad luck, it seems irony is well inflated!
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The people saying replace the tire have more money than sense.
Been using those plugs on my cars and motorcycles for decades. They are safe and will last forever.
Awesome solution.
I've had a rope plug right in the centre of my tyre for over a year now. I've had so much confidence in that plug. I ride like an idiot. I've been up to 150mph on it multiple times and it's felt absolutely and utterly stable. Had no air loss at all since having the plug put in.
Yeah most stupid like to brag about their “intelligence”…
I've done 165mph on a R1 with a plug in the back tire with no problems. I finally replaced it with a new tire 2 years later.
I ran a rope plug from a basically new tyre until I wore the tyre out later that year. They can last if done right imo
LOVE THIS VIDEO! just found a thin metal longish shard on my rear tire on my day off excited to ride my r3. I was beyond bent and upset because i havent had much practice with tools let alone repairing a leaking tire. this video is SUPER helpful! Thank you
On my previous rear tyre I used one of those plugs. It held up for a year with zero air loss. I would use no other tyre-reparing method. 👍 🏍
Your timing is incredible. Yesterday I picked up my first puncture kit (just in case). Watching you repair yours today , fantastic.
Glad I could help!
I plugged my old 600 and did over 4k miles before replacing the tire, plugs are better than patches in that they plug the hole and not just cover over it,
Tip, when you got the rope plug in the tire twist the plunger a turn before pulling it out.
cool tip, +1
Patch plug beats both. I just repaired mine with one but it’s a lot more work.
I've run a tire with 2 plugs in it for about a year and a half and had no issues. Stay safe people
I have two plugs in the front tyre of my Kawasaki Versys 650, I went in 5000kms road trip riding 800 kms per day in rough terrain and the tyre didn't lose pressure or grip. Couple of years later the plug still holding pretty well.
Thanks for the info, Not sure I would risk it on the front BUT we do now have this example to think about. 🙂👍
"Speeding doesn't kill, stopping does" rings true, and reminds me of Goldie Lookin' Chains "Guns don't kill people, rappers do" 😆
We call those rope-plugs “gummy worms” !
Been using these rope plugs for many years on the cars and they have always lasted the length of the tyres life. I have the same kit but with little cannisters to inflate the bike tyre. Touch wood I've not needed to plug the bike tyre yet but I've probably just jinxed myself now lol
Rope plugs are fine! In fact, it's the standard method of repair in the country I'm from, and I've never heard of anyone having issues with them.
I've been using those plugs on my cars and motorcycles for over 30years. They are safe and will last forever.
Damn, never had a puncture in my 8 years of riding but now having seen this, I feel like I've jinxed it and now I have to start carrying a puncture kit around... :D
Is well worth having a kit under the seat for emergencies, some come with CO2 bottles to allow you to inflate the tyre at the roadside which makes life easier allowing you to get to a petrol station and inflate to the correct pressures.
I plugged my mate once for him to get him home he was to lazy to fix it with a patch. He killed the tyre with it still there, also did a track day because he found it was there... That's a bit much for me but he had no issues
Thanks for the vid man. My luck is as good as yours it seems ;) My ebike last year had two plugs in it as well with less than 1000km on it. Now with my new GSXR600 with less than 1000km again... One long screw in it. Tire still looks new. I'm going to plug this one as well and see how it rides.
Honestly that's excellent 👌👍 needed to see this as I've fixed mine just yesterday after a piece of glass threatened my day out.
I have done 2 of these repairs on a car which lasted a good 15 000 miles and have just done one on my motorbike a few months ago. I had no air loss on the car repairs but some air loss on the motorbike. I think it was due to inadequate preparation. Anyway I managed to pull out most of the plug material with needle nosed pliers and re reamed the hole. So far so good. Some people on other channels have different techniques which may be worth considering. (1) after reaming the hole put some rubber cement on the reamer and run that through the hole a few times. (2) As others have suggested put cement on the tyre string, all over before putting it in. (3) Some say the string needs to be flush with the tyre surface otherwise the plug gets pushed in? (4) For very small punctures like Hawthorns use a smaller kit, like one for a tubeless bicycle, same thing but the reamer and fitting tool are narrower (why make a bigger hole than you need to?) Also the reaming is easier if you get the reamer in before too much air leaks out, may also ream a more appropriate shaped hole if the tyre is inflated?
I have a theory that if you fit a mud flap to the front mudguard, that’s if the mudguard comes down low enough, it will defect any thing thrown up by the front tyre as it passes over it. It maybe worth considering.
The double plug in the cartyre is still going strong, almost 2 years.
But I have used ride-on in the motorcycle tyres. No plug needed (as far)
There will always be someone who will tell you that a nail will come out on its own; centrifugal force and all that. But, a) given how difficult they can be to remove, as you demonstrated says centrifugal force is nowhere near enough and b) every rotation of the wheel will push on the nail, keeping it in place. All things considered, if you have the plug kit and the right place to make the repair, then do it.
Very aptly timed, I just used one of these yesterday after getting a nail in my rear tyre. I'll keep an eye on it but it seems to be fine so far. Glad to know they're probably ok to use for a while because as is typical it was a pretty new tyre
If it can be repaired with this kind of kit, then it can be done "properly" with a permanent repair by a tyre fitter.
I've had several van tyres repaired by a fitter at very reasonable prices
@@darronjknight I'd tried getting a tyre shop to repair a puncture before, but they refused to do it because of its speed rating. So I figured I'd just do it myself
Shops to not repair motorcycle tyres. The legal risk is too much for them even though the real risk is low.
Well, Hoss, on today's rope plug repair it looks like you did not push it in far enough. Yes, the hole is plugged, but did enough of the rope get inside to form an expanded knob to keep air pressure from eventually blowing the repair out? I don't know, but a lot of the two strands of rope were sticking out after the repair. I have used such repairs for years on the old Toyota pickup and never had a problem, although I push them in further. Happy motoring!
Luckily this is an old video and you can see it 1000s of miles later here ua-cam.com/video/2l59fNBq-Tc/v-deo.htmlsi=plAhRE6ZlfrLOkND
I repaired my back tyre with the same type you were using,but with the glue in my kit, I would like you to let your tyre go flat from a punter, do the repair and see you use the little air canisters to see the amount you use , as these kits only come with 3 canisters , nice job looking at the repair to see the nail.
I haven't had any problems with rope plugs in motorcycle or car tires. Never had one fail, ever.
I had a nail about an inch from the side of a new tire. The bike shop said it was not repairable because not being in the center and would need a new tyre.
I repaired it with Holts tyre weld with the tyre tilted. It never leaked and used it for over 2 years to the end of the tyres life.
I got a second puncture in a sipe, just like this one. The previous one and the subsequent rope plugs are both still holding air. Gone are the days when I allowed motorbike shops to compel me to buy a new tyre, which once happened to me twice inside of a fortnight on the same wheel. The second time, they shamefacedly allowed me to get a repair done elsewhere, before refitting the wheel. I wished later that I'd asked for the first new punctured tyre to be returned to me. Likely sold it to a pal for a cheap price with no comebacks, you didn't get it here etc.
I had a puncture in a Michelin Road 5 in Spain 2 years ago, and repaired it with a system called Dyna Plug (broadly similar system). Lasted for the rest of the trip and all the way back and after that I ceased to worry about it. Brand new Road 6s two weeks ago and guess what? Puncture on Monday this week. Repaired in the same way and so far, so good. 🤞
Eurgh feel your pain, i got brand new city grip twos installed and got a puncture because of a pothole 100 miles after putting them on, luckily the tires are cheap, would have been mad if I punctured a expensive fresh road 6
It's always in a new tire!!! I put on a new set of Pirelli Angel ST and 8 days later I caught a screw right in the center of the rear tire. I put a plug in it, and made it home. It's riding just fine.
Magnetic tire.
Hi, having picked up a nail yesterday in the rear tyre of my ride, i looked
for vids on how to fix and wether they can be be for the long term or just to get you to the tyre shop. Your examole is very interesting. This is the first bike puncture in 50 yers of biking. I'm hoping these things don't come in threes! Thanks.
So glad to see I’m not the only one with this kind of luck 😆👍! And I too have used rope plugs with great success.
Really considering this. Got a bike with a patch in the tire at 15% , rode it down the rest of the way down fine. Replaced it, rode 80ish miles and got a nail on my new tire....
See the latest update here ua-cam.com/video/2l59fNBq-Tc/v-deo.htmlsi=Oust4LHxm3_hfMn4
Once upon a time there was a device called a road sweeper. Council blokes drove them about. 🙄🙄🙄
Lies all lies never seen one! Hahaha yer it has been a few years since I have seen one.
Good reminder to inspect your tires once in awhile for foreign objects.
Absolutely!
I had saw the nail and thought... That a 2 inch floor board nail... I been doing a bunch of diy taking them out
It goes to show we should be checking our tyres regularly!
I've used the mushroom type repair kits before, after being recommended them by an AA chap many moons ago. Once was unlucky enough to have 4 of them in my rear tyre over the course of two years, and they lasted the life of the tyre, about 15000 miles :)
I think 2 is a legal limit isn’t it? It would not pass most MOT. I might be wrong. Saying that however I’d never ride with even one of those for too long but each to their own.
I'm not sure that replacing your tire every time you get a puncture is a good advice TBH You cite safety and it's a fair point, however, when patches or green goo fixes fail - it's typically not all or nothing. You don't suddenly get your tire deflated to half or zero. You will notice it however as you keep riding that you need to stop at the pump more and more often, and at that point - it would be foolish to take your bike on a freeway (I know some people who say riding your bike on a Freeway is foolish period, but who cares about that LOL). However, I really hate to see the landfills we create by getting something new instead of repairing the old item we had. And if you trust the corporations to do it in some environmentally safe way, - don't. Detailed investigations show that very few LLCs bother with doing things by the book. If they did - fracking would be perfectly safe for the environment. Our garbage is more often shipped to poor countries where little children breathe in fumes and get cancer as young adults, extracting scraps worth a few pennies from the crap we throw out.
Currently have one in my Gixer, not had any issues so far, had them in past bikes for the life of the tyre too, although I got through my tyres quite fast back in the olden days of hooning! 😀
good to know they last just had my first puncture and was not sure if I should leave the plug or make the entire process take tire off for the patch but if they last decision has been made
Picked up a puncture today. Ive got the home mushrrom kit. Hopefully that will work. Wish me luck. Have you ever used the mushroom repairs?
Great vid spicy, just used a rope plug in my new tracer 9 rear tyre, we must have the same tyre luck!! cheers mate for the entertaining vids.
No problem 👍
I’m not criticising but the reason they say should only be temporary repair is because a long nail or screw like that could & I mean could damage the inside of the tyre where the airtight rubber lining is especially if it’s been run underinflated before you discovered it & this you would only know by inspecting the inside of the tyre, I have seen where a nail has chaffed away at the cords inside. I was a tyre fitter many moons ago. Hope this helps.
Airtight rubber lining? What do you mean by that??
The first layer of rubber inside a tubeless tyre is supposed to be airtight not porous, this is not always a 100% achievable which is why we have to check pressure every now & then.
Got a nail from filtering on my bike ,new tyre and only 37 miles on it,aghhh,used a mates rope plug,to get home,4000 miles its still in there,i did check it regularly with soap and water,no leaks,i would not hesitate to use again,no more fearing puntures.
Wondering if I need to get mine properly patched now. I got a staple in mine on my way to my DAS. Its got 2 'bacon strips' in it and they are holding for now. But that's so funny you had to do another in this video
I put a plug in 3000 miles ago, it's lasted. I'm getting new tyres now anyway so for me it worked.
Just had a total flat, probably picked up on the morning commute, 6psi in the tyre when leaving late. Fortunately, BMW rescue came and plugged my tyre, but I didn’t leave work until 2130, after it happening (being noticed) at 1830. Just bought a kit and mini pump. CO2 is crap if you get a total flat. You can only get about 10 psi from one cylinder.
Carry 3, or like I do 4 cartridges.
Just back from a trip to Wales. All good until I got back to my accommodation on the last night. A screw had just gone in the tyre and it must have been near the accommodation as it was unmarked.
I used red tyre strings for the first time. First one lasted 50 miles, second twenty miles so had to resort to the AA who used a mushroom plug kit. That seemed to work on the main hole but he also spotted a tiny hole inside the tread which slowly lost pressure. 50mph back from Wales took a long time.
Anyhow on cars I have always used vulcanising black tyre strings and they have been fine on the tyre for tens of thousands of miles. The red ones, in my experience, are rubbish. For anyone looking for the answer to the question no one has ever asked, what’s the mpg on a 1250 GSA over 225 miles at 50 mph….70.6 mpg. A tedious journey
great video :) just got my first screw in my tyre :(
Also glue can be used if desired, but is not needed. Helps more as a kind of lube if anything, just saying as an ex pro lol
I wouldn't risk using one of those except for a get-me-home fix. Reckon if I had an accident, the insurance would be invalidated, as manufacturer's instructions had not been complied with. A tricky one...
ua-cam.com/video/fqB42UVAoP8/v-deo.html
Now naturally, you shouldn't rally do this, but.. I HAVE had 3 punctures I have fixed with 'Tar Strings' (1 in the front, and 2 in the rear), and, following the instructions for the kit, (insert string into the end of the tool, fold equally down the length of the tool, push fully in, rotate handle 2 full turns (this creates a sticky knot inside the tyre, Spicy110 didn't do this strangely), then pull tool out so that it is JUST showing 1/2 cm of string, then cut with razor blade - yeah, instructions may vary) BUT... they equally lasted thousands of miles until I changed tyres for new. NO leaks, no problems, and I did various speeds and lean angles. I DID ride carefully and check every day/every other day for a week or so until I was sure all was fine, and, again, no problems. Small, lightweight kits, and brilliant in operation too. Marvelous invention. However, EACH TO THEIR OWN in the way of personal use, so, be careful out there guys... 😎🇬🇧
I’ve always preferred the proper fix for the peace of mind but everyone has his own risk tolerance. What’s the real pain is the cost of the new tires compared to car.
@@10secondsrule Yeah, as I said, each to their own, but, they say it's to do with the technology and manufacturing of M/C tyres over car tyres, but yes, I DO agree with you, some tyres are just way over priced
Better off get a bead breaker, take the tyre off and use a mushroom plug on the inside which is glued in. Rebalance the wheel. Basically permanent fix and easy. Can use them on cars too, done it several times. Tire plug kits like this are bobbins, prob okay just to get you home but definitely not permanent.
Anecdotal evidence from my car. 2022 usage: 3 tyres needed repairs. End of 2023 change to all new tyres.
And january 2024 first repair on new tyre.
Problems: None. But pressure check every 2-3 days in the first weeks.
And always carry a small air compressor in the car for peace of mind.
I don't think the UK mot allows two puncture repairs in one tyre. But the sticky worms work very well, I've got a couple in one of my tyres.
Well, I got an MOT every year so I guess they did not look so close. Having said that it's hard to find them in the first place. Wait this is an old video, yer I have a newer one and they are still in so even more the point! 🙂
nail is in the tyre, got a puncture from new riding the 12 miles home, 5 years later and 6000 miles its still going...
With a long nail such as that you should inspect the inside of the tyre, as as the tyre flexes when rolling round it could chafe the inside layers of rubber & cords which are the tyres strength.
Ì got three in one night ( one screw 2 nails)as I commute I rope plugged all three that night and they're still in now 4 months later . I've done these things on the front aswell but I will double up with gloop no point in pissing of lady luck
The caution admonition by the manufacturer serves the same purpose as your "it's my opinion" statement.
A hopeful limiting of liability. So ride on friends, life's a gamble.
The mechanics are saying this is a temporary fix because it ruins their business lol
Enjoyed this! What’s the make of the paddock stand looks sturdy !
Had a mushroom style plug in my tire for over 10,000 miles. Just keep an eye on them and plugs can last the life of the tire.
I agree, but not in the front, for me that is a risk too far, clearly worked tho haha
Definitely funny 😁
I got recommended these plugs many moons ago. I put a plug in my back tyre on my car and I put 40k+ miles on it (till got to the legal min) and it held pressure fine. 100% recommend them?
Thanks lots of help 😊
Yeah I use them last for the tyers life and literally took just a minute to do but I see you didn’t use some glue around the hole and on the rope 👍🏻😁😉🏍💨💨💨
I talked about glue in the video.
Any advice on what brand dose the highest quality puncher repair kit with all the tools. And are any of the portable Battery air compressors any good ?
Only once has my rope repairs failed. Had to use foam to get home. When that suddenly failed (at my house) I used the new style mushroom plug that seams the best solution
The fit from the inside out type?
there is a tyre shop spreading those around,those are very unusual nails only roofers use those
They are building a lot around here over the past few years, so much so they put a greggs in lol
Like the video. Made me check my bike!
😅 I go thru 2 sets of tires a year at 73yo. hate it!...
I just got a screw in my front tire.
Did the rope plug then drove 45mi home. Tore off the tire and put in a push through inside patch.
I repeat....front tire....
Back I would hang with the rope plug. Front ....na. I regularly get up to 80+ mph. .. 2000 V 11 Mtoto Guzzi Sport....Michelins.
Just had this same thing happen with the same cut nail i put a rope in it but do a lot of riding of rough rodes with rocks and potholes and ride pretty hard. Does anyone have any advise
Good to know thanks.
I just wish you put i link to the video where you show how to fix it because i cant find it in your page
Its linked at the end of the video lol
I’m sure that often they will last the life of the tyre, however they might not, a new tyre is £100, I know which way I’d go 🙂
here is the end of this 3 year test ua-cam.com/video/2l59fNBq-Tc/v-deo.htmlsi=PV6l2bHav_lM1yc6
Got the exact same tyre on my gsxr; which had a nail in today on the inner side tread , got the AA to come out and plug it told me not to go over 50mph and 100 miles max then change to new tyre. My other bike got same thing done put 3k miles no issue wth? 😂
Watch this one it is more up to date! ua-cam.com/video/2l59fNBq-Tc/v-deo.html
Cheers spicy
🤣 you had me at long and in there well......😀💦😀 ........cheers for the update....👍💯👍
Can we get an update?!
Still in there now! no issues and the tyre will be worn out by the end of the year.
New update on 2nd plug!? 💁♂️
Did you ever go over 100mph?
Interesting, thanks for sharing this. I think I saw you during the last week, we’re you near Bognor Regis? I’ll look out for you if your local? 😀🙏
Defo not me In bognor I'm afraid.
@@spicy110 ok, I saw a copy of your jacket on a bike! 🙏👍
An there you go, I said we used to use them as a permanent fix in the trade
I personally wouldn't trust one of these plugs it would make me paranoid thinking it would let go
👍
So, where you put the new plug in, what's in the groove on the left of the tyre? Mould line or intruder?
Its extra rubber from the moulding prosses.
Did not see the bonus ironic fail!
Then you skipped the video.
The bigger question is “who uses cut nails nowadays?”
This is the real downside of filtering. All these w@nky builders throw their junk into the back of flat bed lorries and hence how nails and screws end up on our roads. As the cars wash the debris to the edges and centre, when we filter we pick these up. The other culprit on country lanes are horses losing shoe nails. It always amazes how something lying flat on the road manages to stand up to penetrate the tyre. It’s either the garden rake scenario or it’s really excited to see us.
Haha the way they stand up is the same reason most motorcycle punches are the rear wheel. The front goes over it and gives it a little kick up and the rear collects it.
good vid been thinking of getting first bike, this is actually a worry of mine what's it like to get a puncture when driving a motorcycle ?
Depends on how quickly it goes down and if it's front or back. If it's slow to go down on the rear, that's the best case and is both noticeable and manageable.
If the front goes and fast, and even worse, you are turning at the time it can be pretty doggy!
All depends as I say, but I can say in 15 odd years of riding and a lot of puncher's it's never led be to coming off the bike or even close to.
I'd build a tire out of these licorice noodles if it was cost effective.
a tip i got from bikers that are probably dead now, back in the 80,s I'm a motorway cafe, they said to avoid the centre of the lane and drive where all the other road users,s tyres are, they said the constant traffic sterilizes the tyre track,s of most nails and metal, it builds up in all central roads,
Yer the issue is if you filter you ride in the worst parts by default haha
how long will these last for safely?
This is the conclusion to the test. ua-cam.com/video/2l59fNBq-Tc/v-deo.html
@Spicey110 - I note you didn't rotate the tool handle 1 & 1/2 - 2 full turns to create a sticky knot before pulling handle out, is that due to your particular kits instructions? 🤔 😎🇬🇧
Yes a few people have said this but the instructions tell you not to twist it.
@@spicy110 OK, fairy snuff. 👍😎🇬🇧
@thedarkknight1971 yup I just repaired 2 tires in 6 months with the Slime brand kit. It says not to rotate it before you pull it out.
Not for front tire?
I wouldn't no the risk is too high.
Repair shop said two repairs is too much . Oh and never in the groove Discuss
Kwik Fit wouldn't repair a tyre on my van because there were two nails.
They will only do one repair so I bought a new tyre.
when you say never in the groove, do you mean literally anywhere in the slots of the tread pattern?
@@adiohead were they really close together or close to the shoulder or anything like that?
Its not an temp repair. Its a fix.
i had one on my rear and it lasted 2 years before it failed
You are the first to mention one fail, how did it go? Slow leak or with a bang?
@@spicy110 it was a slow leak round the edge
Did you re-plug it? I've had one last about 8 months but it now has very tiny leak again. I can pump it up and it lasts about a day. Thinking of doing it over. @@b1ackf0x11
Year update?
Both are still in, both still holding air perfectly. I will have to change the tyres soon due to normal wear so yer they have lasted the life of the tyre.
Why so deep? If you have like 1cm or 1/2 inch of rubber inside you don’t need a lot inside.
It makes a knoted mushroom head on the inside aiding to the repair strength.