Good for real estate video for that insane feel. Not for photos. Photography for real estate for me between 18-19mm is where I draw the line but in video I don't mind going crazy wide since I create fast paced videos anyway so the perspective distortion is much less noticeable. Insane video lens and fun creative lens that I will be buying.
Awesome video @chrisbrockhurst In other videos I saw you use a Sony A7RV for walkthrough videos, I just got one too for real estate, my question is would this be a good lens for video walkthroughs if the A7RV has a 1.24 crop at 4K 60 which would essentially turn this into a 12.4mm focal length?
Might as well just get an apsc lens like the 10-20. The image would be almost identical at 10mm (maybe a little less distortion, but I don't notice that)
10mm is too wide virtually all the time. I use a 14 to 30 on my Nikon for stills and 14 is already at the extreme end. I might consider this for 1 shot video walkthroughs though, as you could crop the landscape to something less distorted and you could uncrop that, then crop out a portrait version from the edited landscape, for social media. I currently use a 16 to 35 on my Sony for video and 16mm isn't really wide enough for cropping out a portrait from landscape. But no, some of those 10mm shots look hiedous, and I say thatasa full time REP who is accustomed to the Ultrawide look.
@@chrisbrockhurst What if you wanted to use it for walkthrough videos with the A7RV for video since 4K60 has a 1.24 crop, which would make this lens a 12.4 focal length?
i believe 10mm is overkill for real estate, image look too loaded, too much information, and so not too pleasant to watch by customer, main subject become too small, even the perspective of the image is loosing realism, im a realestate photographer since 15 years, and i believe there is a sweetspot at 15mm (14mm if you want to make some corrections and crop), pictures will be more engaging.
Assuming you use 60fps on the a7iv to slow-mo? Most slow-mo shots would mainly be for room reveals, medium/close b-rolls, which a 16mm(24mm crop) is perfectly sufficient. As Chris said, the best use case scenario is a tight space e.g. bathroom. The lens' strength is in tighter spaces and is weak in capturing large spaces from a distance.
Cool video. 10mm could be useful in some cases. The bathroom shot near the end was a good example of a mega wide angle where it works well to show the whole space(verticals were off tho). But man, what are you doing with the composition and verticals on a majority of these shots? They are not good. At least shoot shots that would actually be a good deliverable at 10mm. If you used the 10mm, aligned the verticals, and set it up with solid composition, potentially raise the height of the tripod up slightly, you could then crop in and DOWN 1-4mm to get a ultra wide shot but also reduce the amount of ceiling. Kind of like a tilt shift but through cropping and shooting wider and higher.
Had mine a week. Hell, it's too wide for landscape. It really needs a re-think when using it. I consider it a special purpose len. And my standard for almost 20 years has been a 14mm. Even if you are only using the top half of the frame to avoid convergence and crop to suit, you still have a lot of pixels left with a 61MP sensor.
I don't like the 10 mm look, because the rooms are looking unreal die to the perspective distortion. Things that are further away get too small. That's why I even don't like 12 mm lenses. For real estate and car interior I prefer the 14 mm GM which is wider than the 16 mm and absolute enough. If I need more, I do some panning in video mode and panorama stitching in foto mode.
Chris has shown that this lens has its place, not everywhere, but it has a place. We'd take more care with the verts, but, to show an example, this works, we all know how to fix verts in camera that's not what this is about.
16-25, 16-35, or 12-24. 16-35 is probably the most popular and versatile, then 12-24 is a good option if you want a little wider(and you can always crop in a bit.
16mm seems to be the sweet spot.. more of what my eye would expect to see if I were standing there. At 10mm, it looks like the photographer is trying to make the room look much bigger than it really is with a fisheye lens ..
Because manufacturers tell buyers you can only use gear in a specific way and some people believe it. This helps manufacturers sell more gear. On the other hand more creative people will just use gear in a way that works for them.
Would love to see it with the verticals actually vertical
this is the video i was looking for the past weeks, i use 14mm seems to be the sweet spot for me
Good for real estate video for that insane feel. Not for photos. Photography for real estate for me between 18-19mm is where I draw the line but in video I don't mind going crazy wide since I create fast paced videos anyway so the perspective distortion is much less noticeable. Insane video lens and fun creative lens that I will be buying.
Would really like to have the Laowa 10 2.8
Yo Chris very informative review. Amazing as always 👌
thanks for watching
Amazing demonstration! Planning to get the Tamron 17-28mm and this one and probably gonna get the Viltrox 16mm f1.8 for astrophotography as well.
Awesome video @chrisbrockhurst In other videos I saw you use a Sony A7RV for walkthrough videos, I just got one too for real estate, my question is would this be a good lens for video walkthroughs if the A7RV has a 1.24 crop at 4K 60 which would essentially turn this into a 12.4mm focal length?
The much more important question here is: why would you want 60 fps for a walkthrough video? 30 is definitely sufficient.
@Blockbuster2033 slow motion.
@@chrisbrockhurst I see, that does make sense indeed.
@@chrisbrockhurst would you recommend for the a7r5 as a 12.4mm for video?
I’d be curious about using this for the 4k 60p video on the A7iv due to the crop..
You can easily test that by using a 15mm apsc lens. a7iv 60p is basically using an apsc camera
I feel like this lens would be good to compensate for the 4k 1.5x crop on the a7iv.
1.5 x crop? Do you mean at 60fps?
@@FedericoMcCartney yes. I forgot to add 60fps to that comment lol
Might as well just get an apsc lens like the 10-20. The image would be almost identical at 10mm (maybe a little less distortion, but I don't notice that)
12mm is the da bomb.
10mm is too wide virtually all the time. I use a 14 to 30 on my Nikon for stills and 14 is already at the extreme end. I might consider this for 1 shot video walkthroughs though, as you could crop the landscape to something less distorted and you could uncrop that, then crop out a portrait version from the edited landscape, for social media. I currently use a 16 to 35 on my Sony for video and 16mm isn't really wide enough for cropping out a portrait from landscape.
But no, some of those 10mm shots look hiedous, and I say thatasa full time REP who is accustomed to the Ultrawide look.
I’m sorry, this trend of people on YT where the person is holding a tiny mic in their fingers looks ridiculous lol.
Why shoot the 10mm at an angle and not straight?
don’t always have to, but using a wide lens like that can really accentuate unique angle in ways higher mm lens can’t
His face is in the center and the desk and window are composed to frame the shot
@@ienvysnipesmakes everything in the room look distorted though. It’s real estate 😅
I thought my 12mm was impractical for real estate. This is nuts. Sticking to 16-35 for 95% of shots.
definitely has a time and place
@@chrisbrockhurst What if you wanted to use it for walkthrough videos with the A7RV for video since 4K60 has a 1.24 crop, which would make this lens a 12.4 focal length?
i believe 10mm is overkill for real estate, image look too loaded, too much information, and so not too pleasant to watch by customer, main subject become too small, even the perspective of the image is loosing realism, im a realestate photographer since 15 years, and i believe there is a sweetspot at 15mm (14mm if you want to make some corrections and crop), pictures will be more engaging.
actually perfect for tiny apartments and powder room, with modern sensor resolution you can always crop in and still get a decent 4K image to deliver.
I want to get this lens because I have the Sony A7 IV which have a 1.5 crop ,
14 mm for video you think is good?
Assuming you use 60fps on the a7iv to slow-mo? Most slow-mo shots would mainly be for room reveals, medium/close b-rolls, which a 16mm(24mm crop) is perfectly sufficient.
As Chris said, the best use case scenario is a tight space e.g. bathroom.
The lens' strength is in tighter spaces and is weak in capturing large spaces from a distance.
@@propersg thanks so much
Great job on the video Chris! Thanks for making it.
Thanks for watching
Cool video. 10mm could be useful in some cases. The bathroom shot near the end was a good example of a mega wide angle where it works well to show the whole space(verticals were off tho).
But man, what are you doing with the composition and verticals on a majority of these shots? They are not good. At least shoot shots that would actually be a good deliverable at 10mm.
If you used the 10mm, aligned the verticals, and set it up with solid composition, potentially raise the height of the tripod up slightly, you could then crop in and DOWN 1-4mm to get a ultra wide shot but also reduce the amount of ceiling. Kind of like a tilt shift but through cropping and shooting wider and higher.
hey can you do a video about video for this len
Had mine a week. Hell, it's too wide for landscape. It really needs a re-think when using it. I consider it a special purpose len. And my standard for almost 20 years has been a 14mm. Even if you are only using the top half of the frame to avoid convergence and crop to suit, you still have a lot of pixels left with a 61MP sensor.
great one! I was looking video exactly like this, thank you
I need something like this for shooting MTB / Skate. I need to see how fast it keeps up with high speed photography
great vid Chris
I don't like the 10 mm look, because the rooms are looking unreal die to the perspective distortion. Things that are further away get too small. That's why I even don't like 12 mm lenses. For real estate and car interior I prefer the 14 mm GM which is wider than the 16 mm and absolute enough. If I need more, I do some panning in video mode and panorama stitching in foto mode.
some people are capable holding the camera straight :)
Yeah, don’t use 10mm for RE work
Chris has shown that this lens has its place, not everywhere, but it has a place. We'd take more care with the verts, but, to show an example, this works, we all know how to fix verts in camera that's not what this is about.
This is the exact video I needed, thanks!
Using a 16-35 f4 right now, and there are plenty of times when I wish I could go wider.
I went with the Laowa 14mm for that reason. So far it’s been great.
What lens would you recommend today for shooting real state with Sony?
I’m thinking this one or the new G 16-25 2.8
16-25, 16-35, or 12-24. 16-35 is probably the most popular and versatile, then 12-24 is a good option if you want a little wider(and you can always crop in a bit.
16mm seems to be the sweet spot.. more of what my eye would expect to see if I were standing there. At 10mm, it looks like the photographer is trying to make the room look much bigger than it really is with a fisheye lens ..
Please don't hold a wireless mic (get a handle at Rode or Amazon)! Yeah, it's a pet peeve!
I never understand why this bothers people so much
Because manufacturers tell buyers you can only use gear in a specific way and some people believe it. This helps manufacturers sell more gear. On the other hand more creative people will just use gear in a way that works for them.