Tefi : Band in the UK ...and other tales

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  • More info on the (predominantly) 1950s German music player system. This time thanks to a very generous donation I'm able to demonstrate a Tefi Kurz Band to you. If you just want to see this section jump to 07:31 however if you get time to watch the rest of the video you'll hear more facts and figures and details about the history of the Tefifon and the Tefi company.
    00:00 Tefi History
    07:02 The Tefi band
    10:47 Extra bits
    16:41 Credits with Tefi music 'Bouncing in Saxonia'
    (The track at the end is titled 'Bouncing in Saxonia" - that's all the info I have.
    Cuba Baion on a Street Organ • Cuba Baion - Draaiorge...
    My previous Tefifon videos;
    1. • Vintage Electronics - ...
    2. • Tefifon Part 2 - more...
    3. • The Stereo* Tefifon KC4
    (If you only want to watch one - I’d recommend the second video).
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  • @Techmoan
    @Techmoan  Місяць тому +457

    More info on the (predominantly) 1950s German music player system. This time thanks to a very generous donation I'm able to demonstrate a Tefi Kurz Band to you. If you just want to see this section jump to 07:31 however if you get time to watch the rest of the video you'll hear more facts and figures and details about the history of the Tefifon and the Tefi company.

    • @sauwercraud
      @sauwercraud 28 днів тому +71

      the most shocking thing on this was ... 9 years ago??? It felt like two years max!

    • @KirksAudioSanctum
      @KirksAudioSanctum 28 днів тому +36

      You know what gets me. I cannot get over how good these carts sound. If they had kept going, I bet they would have got even better.

    • @allenellisdewitt
      @allenellisdewitt 28 днів тому +8

      You never said how to contact Markus, unless I missed it?

    • @wobblyboost
      @wobblyboost 28 днів тому +11

      Are there any teardown or repair videos available on YT that you know of? Would love to see her inside workings.
      Thankyou so much for all 3 Tefifon videos, the daughter of vinyl records and the grandmother of the 8 track.

    • @Techmoan
      @Techmoan  28 днів тому +40

      Markus will no doubt be reading through the comments - so this is where I suggest posting any serial numbers.

  • @JeffBilkins
    @JeffBilkins 28 днів тому +995

    Love it when someone completely nerds out on a niche topic and goes on a 9+ year binge, well done Markus.

    • @tyrgoossens
      @tyrgoossens 28 днів тому +63

      The kids call that "weaponized autism" these days.

    • @Sardikar
      @Sardikar 28 днів тому +27

      @@tyrgoossens It gets shit done.

    • @bobothn
      @bobothn 28 днів тому

      @@tyrgoossens Not sure the reason but I am pretty sure the entire north east of the US would be underwater if Post10 on youtube didn't spend his life unclocking culverts and blockages to unflood streets.

    • @StarkRG
      @StarkRG 28 днів тому +29

      XKCD invented the term "nerd sniping" for intentionally causing someone to obsessively investigate a problem. The derived term "nerd sniped" has an expanded definition for having that happen to someone regardless of whether or not it was intentional. Marcus got nerd sniped _hard_

    • @somervillearron
      @somervillearron 28 днів тому +7

      ​@@tyrgoossensweaponised autism
      i like that 😅

  • @frankowalker4662
    @frankowalker4662 28 днів тому +625

    Marcus did'nt just go down the rabbit hole, he took a shovel and extended the whole warren.

    • @kevinbuja8105
      @kevinbuja8105 28 днів тому +7

      😂

    • @tonyzed6831
      @tonyzed6831 28 днів тому +43

      And found a way to heal some of the rabbits and wash the dirty ones.

    • @KeritechElectronics
      @KeritechElectronics 28 днів тому +9

      That's dedication and determination for ya! :)

    • @ruialexandre6197
      @ruialexandre6197 28 днів тому +16

      He basically built a whole Kingdom Under The Mountains all by himself.

    • @jorgealzate4124
      @jorgealzate4124 28 днів тому +8

      Now it is essentially an Euro Tunnel

  • @outsdr
    @outsdr Місяць тому +459

    It has a surprisingly clean sound, to be honest.

    • @fritzkuhne2055
      @fritzkuhne2055 28 днів тому +35

      And decent bass

    • @outsdr
      @outsdr 28 днів тому +36

      @@fritzkuhne2055 Right? I was expecting scratchy, hissing, tinny sound.

    • @mjowsey
      @mjowsey 28 днів тому +24

      Reliable too. Didn't need to take the machine apart and fiddle with it for hours or days.

    • @NewFalconerRecords
      @NewFalconerRecords 28 днів тому +17

      The double bass on the outro music to this video is superb, really rich and well balanced.

    • @philt4346
      @philt4346 28 днів тому +8

      and this is the 19cm/s lo-fi iteration, so yea

  • @Mr-Trox
    @Mr-Trox 28 днів тому +225

    Markus has found his fixation. Usually it ends up being wargaming or models.
    This man saw an obscure German audio format and fell in love.
    You go Markus. You go.

    • @md_vandenberg
      @md_vandenberg 28 днів тому +40

      As a friend of mine once said, "find that one stupid thing only you care about." A hobby can't be a waste of time if you enjoy it.

    • @fl0atpvnk
      @fl0atpvnk 27 днів тому +4

      ​@@md_vandenbergthis right here.

    • @ClockworkJim
      @ClockworkJim 25 днів тому +8

      This is probably far far cheaper than Warhammer

  • @Modenut
    @Modenut 28 днів тому +221

    That Tefi Band adapter is absolutely gorgeous. Impractical but very stylish.

    • @ut4321
      @ut4321 27 днів тому +9

      The adapter looks like an art deco “Car of the Future!”

    • @MetalTrabant
      @MetalTrabant 27 днів тому +10

      Looks like a VW Beetle :)

    • @seabubble5896
      @seabubble5896 27 днів тому +8

      it a terrible beautiful idea....i'm sure it will be in fallout next

    • @paulwincott2987
      @paulwincott2987 26 днів тому

      You and Marcus should get together!

  • @borandolph1267
    @borandolph1267 28 днів тому +112

    "A bit of a kerfuffle starting in 1939 and everything went to heck." 😂😂😂
    One of my favorite lines

    • @Mizai
      @Mizai 27 днів тому +5

      yea that angry mustached man suddenly took over the world unexpectedly

    • @peterthebricky
      @peterthebricky 26 днів тому +5

      What auto shenanigans calls the small disagreement

    • @liljasere
      @liljasere 23 дні тому +3

      All got a little bit silly for a few years

    • @wdavem
      @wdavem 22 дні тому +2

      Yeah, but you really have to dig down to find anything about it. Especially in England.

    • @Kr-nv5fo
      @Kr-nv5fo 21 день тому +3

      Don't mention the war! I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with all right.

  • @lwaldron9745
    @lwaldron9745 28 днів тому +47

    " “Cuba Baion” is a Latin-tinged orchestral composition by German accordionist/bandleader Kurt Drabek, which apparently first appeared in a 1957 album titled Auf den Flügeln bunter Träume. What is also interesting to note is that many years later, the song enjoyed some popularity when it was included on a Techmoan video about the Tefifon, a German audio-playback format that lasted from the ’40s to the ’60s."

  • @mozamboni
    @mozamboni 27 днів тому +25

    The design language of the TEFI KURZ BAND logo, is so amazing 😍

  • @jonathangmallender
    @jonathangmallender 28 днів тому +77

    I swear Mat is the reason UA-cam exists. He has covered so many fascinating things on here, that when i see his videos, instant play and instant like.

  • @Sigma-INFJ.
    @Sigma-INFJ. 28 днів тому +118

    One of the things that I miss about The Moans, (the puppets), is listening to Cuba Baion. I think it added to the humor.

    • @KeritechElectronics
      @KeritechElectronics 28 днів тому +7

      Techmoan and the Moans!

    • @Freakaboogie
      @Freakaboogie 28 днів тому +16

      maybe he should start a 2nd channel dedicated to the puppets. i miss them too!

    • @chaos.corner
      @chaos.corner 26 днів тому +5

      @@Freakaboogie Matt appears to take the complainers a little too much to heart.

    • @SSand4
      @SSand4 25 днів тому +6

      @@chaos.corner I think he stopped doing them because a) youtube was flagging them as "only for kids" and threatening to classify him as a "kids channel" which means no money.
      And b) because he was running out of ideas for what to do with them anyway and those quick skits were still a lot of work; and to put that kind of work in and not even be able to get paid for it on top of writers block, I think he just decided it was better to retire the segment and focus on other things.
      I miss them too, but I can understand why he stopped if that is indeed the case.
      *extreme close-up*: Flippin' 'eck.
      Good times.

  • @guymanperson3089
    @guymanperson3089 26 днів тому +12

    “I know it’s been a bit more of a chatty one” 16:33
    Honestly, the talking, in depth nature of this channel is what keeps me coming back. There are things that you cover that are so niche that you’re one of the few reliable sources for them- without you information about vintage audio would be a lot less accessible. So keep talking, the world deserves your words.

  • @Sigma-INFJ.
    @Sigma-INFJ. 28 днів тому +303

    If it wasn't for Mat's videos, I wouldn't be aware of the existence of the Tefifon.

    • @castorchua
      @castorchua 28 днів тому +5

      I'd pick one over a record player

    • @charlesdoesmore5488
      @charlesdoesmore5488 28 днів тому

      Found an INFJ in the wild

    • @gapho5198
      @gapho5198 28 днів тому +30

      If it weren't for this video, I wouldn't have known there was a kerfuffle in Germany in 1939. You never really stop learning!

    • @ShazeemKhan
      @ShazeemKhan 28 днів тому +4

      Lol same😂
      *wasn't😊

    • @castorchua
      @castorchua 28 днів тому +7

      @@gapho5198 Clearly this sparked off a larger format war

  • @aeiouxs
    @aeiouxs 28 днів тому +200

    Mat you're rapidly moving into areas different from 'merely' a UA-camr - besides a Historian of some fascinatingly obscure Tech - I'd always dreamed that you would open a physical museum to allow visitors to see many of these obscure formats (or indeed experience them).And now you're inspiring rejuvenation of these formats, incredible stuff!

    • @TheOnjLouis
      @TheOnjLouis 28 днів тому +33

      I personally would go to such a museum for sure.
      I’m blind, so just hearing descriptions of these things is like knowing they’re behind a glass display case, but not being able to understand them in detail.
      I love hearing about all this old tech, but it makes me sad thinking that I’ll likely never get to lay hands on it to truly understand it, and know the placement of buttons/knobs/sliders etc.
      I literally can’t picture what it looks like in my head.

    • @TheBreadlord
      @TheBreadlord 28 днів тому +19

      I think his real move would be to lend a bunch of this stuff to Look Mum No Computer. Semi-permanent exhibit or something

    • @xpehkto
      @xpehkto 28 днів тому +2

      @@Moonlightshadow-lq4fr What the voice has to do with Look Mum No Computer having an exhibit place called This Museum Is (not) Obsolete?

    • @pileofstuff
      @pileofstuff 28 днів тому +13

      @@TheBreadlord Matt has already contributed a device to This Museum Is Not Obsolete's collection. As well as recorded some audio that helps demonstrate one of the devices in the museum.
      (youtube com/watch?v=qvzH7DSsD3g)

    • @RobCamp-rmc_0
      @RobCamp-rmc_0 27 днів тому +1

      I’d make the trip across the Atlantic for that. I’d go regularly if I end up moving to Ireland like we want to do.

  • @lorchid23
    @lorchid23 28 днів тому +96

    I’m completely amazed at how the plastic bands are still intact after so many years.

    • @s.murphy8336
      @s.murphy8336 28 днів тому +25

      Me too. As anyone who's owned a modern German car could tell you, German plastic usually disintegrates after about 5 years and crumbles if you look at it wrong. Clearly the Tefi ribbons are some sort of lost technology.

    • @standupstraight9691
      @standupstraight9691 28 днів тому +13

      My grandma had a plastic mesh shopping bag in the 50s. It still exists today with my sister. For some reason, the thin plastic strands making up the structure has never perished or broken despite much use.

    • @GlutenEruption
      @GlutenEruption 28 днів тому +24

      The bands were made out of PVC (polyvinyl chloride) - the same material as vinyl records actually- which is extremely stable and isn't degraded by UV, ozone, weather, heat, cold, environmental chemicals, etc. In fact it's known as one of the most environmentally damaging plastics because it just refuses to break down with time.
      And as for the vintage shopping bags, those are typically Nylon, which is the same stuff as stockings and fishing line - also another extremely durable and long lived plastic.

    • @Exarian
      @Exarian 28 днів тому

      @@s.murphy8336 I hope someone's got a sacrificial damaged tape they can submit a sample of to see if someone can figure out exactly what it's made of.

    • @mgebha
      @mgebha 28 днів тому +13

      @@GlutenEruptionThe tapes being made from PVC seems to be a myth that has been around for a long time. Unfortunately, the chemical resistance and other properties do not match PVC, so the material mix is still a mystery...

  • @bens1343
    @bens1343 28 днів тому +142

    As awkward as the kurzband setup was, it was really cool seeing the tape go around like that. Huge kudos to Markus

    • @mauritsvw
      @mauritsvw 28 днів тому +4

      Indeed.

    • @PatGleeson123
      @PatGleeson123 27 днів тому +1

      I love how the Kurzband works. Very ingenious - a lot better than the present cassette decks are, that's for sure 🙂

    • @root42
      @root42 26 днів тому

      Ingenious idea, but a vinyl single is so much easier to store. Kids back in the day would have albums of singles that would keep 20-30 records so they could take them to parties. But the Kurz and would have been very awkward to carry around. Might have been neat for jukeboxes...

  • @franklarosa740
    @franklarosa740 28 днів тому +20

    Thanks for the update. I bought a Tefi Holiday after I saw the original video. Model BK-60/UKW, serial number 10433. Glad to help if you need more details.

  • @xdanielDZD
    @xdanielDZD 28 днів тому +20

    I'm fairly sure the Tefifon T 541 or at least a very similar model, in the top left of the ad at 4:45, is the one that's extant in our family, so to speak. When I was a kid in the 90s, that one sat on the lower shelf of the TV stand at my grandparents' place, as far as I can remember still plugged in and at least with the radio part working. When their household was broken up after grandma had passed away and grandpa moved to a retirement home some 20 years ago, the Tefifon went to my aunt, who in turn sadly passed away last year, and now it's with my mother. It no longer works, as at least one tube is broken, but still has a cartridge in the Tefifon player on the top, I *think* some paperwork as well (user's manual, possibly?)
    Edit: Spoke to my mom, it's a Tefifon M 540, very similar-looking to the T 541, with one cartridge, the Tefifon's manual, and one broken tube.

  • @stepheng8779
    @stepheng8779 28 днів тому +28

    You see it should sound dreadful but it doesn't.
    Why the Tefifon is one of my favourite videos of all the one's you've done 👍

  • @joeblankenship377
    @joeblankenship377 28 днів тому +98

    That music sounds ancient even for the 1950s. It's hard to imagine kids in the 1950s bopping to a ragtime piano instrumental recorded onto a piece of Fruit by the Foot.

    • @tyttuut
      @tyttuut 28 днів тому +6

      It must have been hard not to eat them.

    • @caddelworth
      @caddelworth 28 днів тому +20

      @joeblankenship377 Actually, there were several ragtime pianists who regularly hit the UK charts in the late 1950s. Winifred Atwell, Joe 'Piano' Henderson, and Russ Conway, for example, though Russ isn't quite so ragtime, I guess.

    • @dhpbear2
      @dhpbear2 28 днів тому +5

      Johnny Maddox had a hit with 'The Crazy Otto' in the mid-Fifties and it started a short-lived ragtime craze.

    • @professormicron6470
      @professormicron6470 28 днів тому +8

      That's the thing that usually killed underdog music formats. Not being able to get licensing deals for the hit songs that teenagers wanted to listen and instead being stuck with whatever the manufacturer of the format could afford

    • @RJRC_105
      @RJRC_105 28 днів тому +10

      Nowadays they'd release ultra limited edition purple and orange striped Tefis for influencers to pose with.

  • @MurcuryEntertainment
    @MurcuryEntertainment 25 днів тому +6

    There's just something so charmingly retro-futuristic about the whole tefifon concept.

    • @danblei
      @danblei 25 днів тому +2

      Yes ! It's like some weird artifact belonging to the parallel universe in the "Fringe" series ! 😵‍💫

  • @olik136
    @olik136 28 днів тому +161

    Turns out the Tefi factory was about a 20 min. drive away from me.. there are historic photos available from 1956 that show the building. Pretty big factory stretching to the river Rhine. The building was reduced to half the size later and since the 90s there is a very 90s looking residential complex there.

    • @endresutus124
      @endresutus124 28 днів тому +8

      @DM-ei6oo Oh yeah, I remember my childhood going shopping with my mother. You need meat, you go to the meat shop, you need fish, same there. Of course you buy your bread at the bakery, all of which were about one or km apart of each other in a triangle. And there was the wonderful joy of b/w tv when you had a good signal, not to forget streets made of cobblestones. Oh, the wonderful old time back in the 80s, at least on the wrong side of the Iron Curtain.
      The only reason the old times were better is because we were younger and everything was new.

  • @robertcurrie9977
    @robertcurrie9977 29 днів тому +71

    Some great graphics on the Tefi Kurz Band packaging.

    • @mozamboni
      @mozamboni 27 днів тому

      I am an avid graphic design and art history buff... I miss unique design like that!

    • @Marticulate
      @Marticulate 27 днів тому +1

      Bauhaus.

  • @jarthurs
    @jarthurs 28 днів тому +85

    Saturday Morning ☑ Cooked Breakfast ☑ Techmoan ☑ All is right with the World! Thanks to Matt and Markus for keeping the memory of Tefi alive! Even the kids chuckle when I play Cuba Baion (Tefi-speed edition).

    • @adamgh0
      @adamgh0 28 днів тому +4

      I know! I haven't been this excited for Saturday mornings since the early 90's.

  • @grapemac
    @grapemac 28 днів тому +42

    Gently disagree with the ‘not a brilliant idea’ of it all… I think it’s bloody marvellous!

    • @johnwarr7552
      @johnwarr7552 28 днів тому +3

      Absobloodylutly. Sheer genius.

    • @baseddoggie
      @baseddoggie 27 днів тому

      How

    • @RobCamp-rmc_0
      @RobCamp-rmc_0 27 днів тому +4

      I’m with you, once you figure out how to use it, it’s an elegant little thing. Hopefully the spike you tighten onto the spindle doesn’t wear into it too much, that’s the only real potential flaw I see with it, well, maybe apart from it appearing to be a bit jiggly when you install it.

  • @imho4556
    @imho4556 28 днів тому +12

    You drew my attention to a book that has been sitting untouched on my bookshelf for at least 25 years: 'Das Tefifon' by Herbert Jüttemann. In it, I even found some jukeboxes based on Tefifons. I knew of a book about Tefifones, but I had completely forgotten about owning it...

  • @Damien.D
    @Damien.D 28 днів тому +7

    The whole story presented here represent Internet a its finest, and why it had been invented in the first place. Connecting talented people to start and keep the ball rolling on project that gets bigger and more important than ever imagined.
    One video years ago helped to uncover a whole industrial story about a forgotten audio format, and now everything is getting preserved and archived for the years to come.

  • @mykelevangelista6492
    @mykelevangelista6492 28 днів тому +9

    Tefi is one of those companies that makes something innovative, but fails to capitalise on it by making poor marketing decisions. The Tefifon range (and all the adapters) could have been really good, at least until the rise of magnetic cassette tape, if the decisions by marketing (and here I include the ideas behind the product design) had been less conservative.
    And, kudos to Marcus for letting his passion turn into something creative, too.

  • @Roberto_Steele
    @Roberto_Steele 28 днів тому +25

    Markus is one amazing man for Going out of his way to restoring the carts, and find the "end" of the carts!!

  • @weeraanmelden
    @weeraanmelden 28 днів тому +35

    thank you Marcus! Without remembering our history, we cannot progress.

  • @crouch1521
    @crouch1521 28 днів тому +12

    The single adapter reminds me of the front end of a VW Beetle

  • @BBB_bbb_BBB
    @BBB_bbb_BBB 26 днів тому +3

    I could understand why someone would become that obsessed with this format. More than any other format you've featured on this channel, the Tefi is easily the most stylish to me. I instantly loved the look of both the player and the carts. Even the way you have to pull out the band yourself to play the music is such a cool idea. The aesthetic is great.
    It's impressive to see all the innovations that guy is making, especially the band iron.

  • @gbraadnl
    @gbraadnl 28 днів тому +21

    How awesome. It also feels like I just watched the Tefi videos yesterday.... 9 years ago?! I am old 😅

  • @KingSvenDeluxe
    @KingSvenDeluxe 28 днів тому +10

    I think we all owe Markus a beer (or preferred beverage).

  • @JamesOKeefe-US
    @JamesOKeefe-US 27 днів тому +2

    "Tragedy to farce" honestly describes more and more of my experience with the government at all kevels in the US. Thanks for the update JJ, Appreciate you and hope you have a great week!!

  • @sivalon1
    @sivalon1 27 днів тому +8

    Many thanks for your work Marcus! Anyone else suddenly want a Tefifon t-shirt?

  • @Richardincancale
    @Richardincancale 28 днів тому +14

    Another key advantage of the Tefifon compared to 78s was that you didn’t have to change discs every 2.5 minutes - nice if you’re listening to classical music. It’s really not that bad for a plastic film record player!

  • @gt38acl
    @gt38acl 28 днів тому +7

    INTERIOR. A German record producer's office, late 1950's.
    Producer: "Alright Hans, this had better be good. I need a hit song for the teens of today."
    Hans, busily putting thumbtacks into an upright piano: "I've got just the thing, sir."

  • @noneyabizz8337
    @noneyabizz8337 28 днів тому +13

    It's funny to me that I watch these videos. Have none of the tech, have rarely seen or had any prior knowledge. And still, I watch and will rewind if i miss something.
    Very interesting, as always.

  • @mikadellenbach7018
    @mikadellenbach7018 28 днів тому +30

    Hy Mat, i also got in touch with marcus at an onlineforum, he helped me to repair my tefifon kc1 wich i purchased because if your video about the Tefifon. I now also have this obscure audio device in my stereo collection! Thank you very much for your video about the tefi and other audio formats! Lovely greetings from Swizerland Mika😃😃😃

  • @macprofire
    @macprofire 28 днів тому +7

    Just found out how strong the urge to make a 50s radio voice is when reading the catalogues from that era. And now I can‘t stop. Außerdem, Markus, guter Mann das. Mein Hut ist gelüpft ^^

  • @DaedalusHelios
    @DaedalusHelios 28 днів тому +26

    These historical devices are an absolute joy to learn about. Thank you for adding to the historical record!

  • @briangoldberg4439
    @briangoldberg4439 26 днів тому +3

    Thank you so much for continuing to do this. You think you're being chatty, but this is exactly the kind of stuff that I'm interested in, and I'm certain a lot of your fans come here for. As long as you're having a good time doing it, and having fun with all the old tech, we'll be having fun too!

  • @WhatALoadOfTosca
    @WhatALoadOfTosca 28 днів тому +4

    Another way of looking at it Matt, it isn't that your videos don't have longevity. It is the fact that your viewers really really look forward to watching them as soon as they come out. Your videos are a bit like Tomorrow's World on the telly years ago. I used to love when it came on and spent all week looking forward to it. Your videos are part of a great Saturday morning.

  • @Ice_Karma
    @Ice_Karma 28 днів тому +7

    9:17 "You can see, while I'm doing this, that it's not a brilliant idea." My eyebrows started climbing when you brought out the Tefi Kurz Band box, kept going up as you showed us what was in the box, continued to rise as you took it off the cardboard holder, and were most of the way to my hairline by the time you said this. 🤣

  • @bwagner23
    @bwagner23 28 днів тому +4

    i use Cuba Baion as my alarm, and it really is the most pleasant sound I've ever found to wake up to. i totally understand how Marcus got hooked; just really nice music in such a fascinating format!

  • @birrsworld405
    @birrsworld405 28 днів тому +5

    Hello
    A friend forwarded me your video. Thank you it is interesting, I had only seen a machine and cassettes once before, here in Berlin in a second hand record shop. But all without sleeves and a paper insert. I was born in 1955, nobody in our neighbourhood had anything like that. (We had a combined radio-record chest). I find two things interesting. The tape with the Cuba title, it's mixed East and West German artists. That was not a matter of course at that time. Or difficult for the East German artists.
    Which probably leads to another problem. Tefiphon doesn't seem to have had its own musicians, which means that all music had to be licensed. And in the emerging rock 'n' roll/pop music, hits/names of well-known artists were important. And if they were chart artists, they were bound to be expensive, if they could be licensed at all. If you combine that with your own distribution system, it will certainly have become economically tight. The idea of working for Neckermann was therefore tempting. Neckermann also had its own department stores from 1951, where the products could theoretically have been presented. But I don't know. I also don't know how many Neckermann department stores there were. As far as I know, they only came to Berlin at the end of the sixties.
    The fact that the track runs faster (apart from carelessness when dubbing) may also have the background that the highs are cut off when the recordings are played back faster and thus the noise is/is less. We have always been surprised that reissues of LPs in Japan have shorter times than the European/American pressings, which is probably due to this idea.
    Thomas
    thiws may interessitg for you
    www.werkladen.de/Walter-Dick-Archiv/Koeln-1950-54/Tefifon-1952

  • @Fluteboy
    @Fluteboy 27 днів тому +7

    9:27 - The artist is *Der Klimper-Heini Und Seine Rhythmiker (The strummer Heini and his rhythmists),* and the song is _Medley bekannter Evergreens (Medley of well-known evergreens)._ It was released in Germany on a shellac by Bertelsmann (later BMG), and also on the Tefi "album" _Schlager-Favoriten III._
    Awesomely catchy! 😁

  • @TsiolkovskySportingLocks
    @TsiolkovskySportingLocks Місяць тому +37

    I loved your first two videos on this format. This is a brilliant third edition. Many, many, many thanks for adding to the knowledge on this fantastic format. I am guessing if it caught on, they were would have been a special bad playing machine manufacturered.
    Marcus is a total star for doing all this. It really great so see the effort and thought that he's put into conserving this intriguing format!

  • @someonebald2022
    @someonebald2022 28 днів тому +10

    I love the whole concept of the TEFI. Another great video.

  • @martinrimmer2826
    @martinrimmer2826 24 дні тому +2

    Love the Tefi concept and it was much appreciated that you made a few vids here. Thank you.
    We have a Tefi T-602 radio from 1957 that has a built in Tefi band player in the top of it. We bought it in Nürnburg when we lived there in 2001. Every morning it wakes us up 😊 Sadly we need a cartridge for it to play the cassette bands we have for it.

  • @merickbrother2122
    @merickbrother2122 28 днів тому +12

    At 6:10 that flip of the machine shows a great flair of showmanship, perhaps unwittingly obtained, but still showcasing the growth and development of my favorite device historian (now read: UA-camr). What great work!

  • @jezusmylord
    @jezusmylord 28 днів тому +7

    Markus what a guy! thats dedication i can seriously respect

  • @jb428
    @jb428 28 днів тому +14

    Great memories. I got an old Tefifon and a couple of tapes from my uncle back in the seventies in Germany, still remember it very well.

  • @reggiep75
    @reggiep75 27 днів тому +2

    Bizarre formats have more life in them due to their uniqueness and back story.

  • @sihaz1969
    @sihaz1969 28 днів тому +68

    You have to play "Striptease Susi" for us Matt!

    • @Osmocote
      @Osmocote 28 днів тому

      I found it! ua-cam.com/video/W5HZG9kwA9M/v-deo.htmlsi=flo_WxSxPFfXnQFT

    • @fritzkuhne2055
      @fritzkuhne2055 28 днів тому +6

      Yes please!

    • @mankepoot9440
      @mankepoot9440 28 днів тому +7

      It is available on UA-cam with a clip.

    • @SoloDX
      @SoloDX 28 днів тому +2

      Im glad Im not the only one who saw this.

    • @bewilderbeestie
      @bewilderbeestie 27 днів тому +1

      Nah, UA-cam would demonetise it.

  • @alexmckenna1171
    @alexmckenna1171 28 днів тому +13

    I'm not surprised the teens didn't go for that single tape... the second tune was My Golden Baby, a German hit tune from 1931.. Swinging!

    • @robbybobbyhobbies
      @robbybobbyhobbies 28 днів тому +2

      First one was Alexander’s Ragtime Band, but everyone already knew that, I’m sure.

  • @wspolczynnik_poissona
    @wspolczynnik_poissona 28 днів тому +8

    I thought the Tefi Band was a pretty clever idea to make the singles very cheap without the need for bulky cartridge. The spiky screw is a little silly but it doesn't look THAT flimsy

  • @kimmorgan379
    @kimmorgan379 28 днів тому +13

    I have the Tefifone horns and chimes as my ringtone and message alerts. Thank you Matt!

    • @stephenswift9868
      @stephenswift9868 28 днів тому +4

      Is it possible to use the horns and chimes on my IPhone? I’ve been trying to achieve it without success. Thanks in advance!

    • @kimmorgan379
      @kimmorgan379 25 днів тому

      @@stephenswift9868 Oh blimey, it's so long ago when I did it I can't tell you off the top of my head but I'm pretty sure I downloaded them as .mp3 files, saved them to my phone and then in the settings when you can select them. I'm pretty sure Matt saved them somewhere so people can download them. Sorry, I can't give you much more than that.

  • @bobby666666
    @bobby666666 28 днів тому +16

    Brilliant. This is why I love this channel. Where else would we gain this sort of knowledge. Thanks Matt.

  • @AJ_UK_LIVE
    @AJ_UK_LIVE 28 днів тому +11

    Very interesting! I love that Marcus has gone down such a rabbit hole, and made such efforts to keep this old tech running.

  • @johnappleseed6505
    @johnappleseed6505 28 днів тому +6

    Holy Heck, props to Markus for such dedication !

  • @trevorbrown6654
    @trevorbrown6654 28 днів тому +2

    I really enjoyed this video. I'd never heard of Tefi before but it reminds me of the stuff Fisher Price used to make for kids in the 1970s, but more solidly constructed. And hearing the music of the period that was available on it has a very beatnik feel, like something you'd hear in an early Peter Sellers movie whilst everyone says things like 'Daddio' or 'thats really groovy man'.
    A fascinating device so thanks for the history lesson.

  • @xyzrandom3981
    @xyzrandom3981 28 днів тому +11

    What an awesome find! Thanks to the viewer that made this happen.

  • @grahampaulkendrick7845
    @grahampaulkendrick7845 Місяць тому +26

    I' love this story, Matt. It's real message in a bottle stuff! 🙂 Well done, Markus. BTW - The track A B C Boogie on the list (12:19) is a favourite song of mine, which I've played live.

    • @boldfella8199
      @boldfella8199 28 днів тому +3

      Bill Haley :-) the one with the whistling intro or the guitar intro? I like the one with the whistling intro best. More boogie :-)

  • @xaenon
    @xaenon 28 днів тому +2

    You keep me in a near-constant state of amazement. I never knew of the Tefi machines before your video about them nine years ago, and clearly you have a devoted following if people are willing to send you rare and valuable stuff to demonstrate these obsolete formats. I would feel incredibly humbled that someone out there went full-bore with conservation efforts based on a video I'd made.
    It seems to me that Tefi could have made a more practical adapter by using a partial cartridge shell instead of that clamp-on contraption. Still remarkable that there's one still around.
    Thank you for all the videos you've made and the information you've provided; I absolutely adore learning how technology and media formats are developed and implemented.

  • @Rennie6666
    @Rennie6666 27 днів тому +1

    Thanks Matt for a really interesting video on a forgotten audio playback device / company

  • @macgyverdj
    @macgyverdj 28 днів тому +8

    Just a little idea on the side: If the tape shrinking actually is the cause for the increased pitch / speed up, I would assume that this probably would affect all tracks on that tape, and potentially a number of other tapes as well. Maybe you can track down some other recordings in an effort to prove that theory. Thanks for the video!

    • @avsystem3142
      @avsystem3142 26 днів тому +1

      I suggested in a comment above that Matt should check both the record and tape version of the same track and use a tuning meter to check the pitch. If the tape version has a different pitch (higher), instead of just having been recorded playing the music at a faster tempo, then that would support the "shrinkage" (like a scared turtle) hypothesis. I am doubtful that is the reason based on my engineering knowledge of plastics such as PVC.

    • @macgyverdj
      @macgyverdj 26 днів тому +1

      @@avsystem3142 From the samples in the video I am pretty sure that the tefi version is both higher in pitch and faster in speed. That is unless my ears are playing tricks on me. Given how difficult it is to change the speed without changing the pitch (or vice versa, especially with analog means), I don't find that very surprising either, and I could totally see this happen if the medium were to shrink.
      My knowledge about the chemistry involved is limited. I do know that plastic can indeed shrink, so I'm not immediately doubting that. In my experience however this typically is due to evaporation of the part of the compound that is responsible for maintaining the elasticity of the material, or in other words: Whenever this has happened to me, the result was a crumbling mess. The tapes in the video however seem to show no signs of this process, they seem perfectly flexible.

    • @monkeytennis7477
      @monkeytennis7477 25 днів тому +1

      My theory is, that there's 2 different recordings of this song. The Tefi version is earlier, faster, and in a higher key. The album version is later, slowed down, and more mellowed out. But this is just a theory 🤔 😏

  • @mackpines
    @mackpines 28 днів тому +12

    Well, it’s Saturday!
    Thanks to you, I would’ve never known about this interesting format. Can’t believe just how long you’ve been doing videos.
    Nine years feels like a lifetime ago.

  • @fabiokuriyama
    @fabiokuriyama 24 дні тому +2

    This is the only channel I always search for updates. As an enthusiast of vintage audio, I love discovering all the fascinating things I never knew existed. I can’t wait for the next Tefi episodes!

  • @YodaPagoda
    @YodaPagoda 27 днів тому +1

    I'm happy to be one of those weirdos that enjoy the niche electronics videos. This type of technology is just fascinating, and many of the products we use today could have been on the ash heap of history had someone not stocked their products, or if an influential celebrity failed to endorse it. And a big thanks to Markus, with his treasure trove of Tefi goodies and oddities!

  • @davemc1944
    @davemc1944 28 днів тому +6

    Hi Mat, this has got to be one of the best channels on UA-cam and one of only two I have regularly watched over the years. The other being Tally Ho.
    Thanks for all the content over the years. You just get better and better. Cheers.

  • @Bezzer1975
    @Bezzer1975 27 днів тому +8

    "There was a bit of a Kerfuffle in 1939"😂

  • @danblei
    @danblei 25 днів тому +1

    These people from Tefi were way ahead of its time, it's a real pity they didn't continue in business. The idea was nothing short of miraculous at the time; nothing could ever come close to it. Thanks for letting us into so many details of its development, Matt ! 😊

  • @KrisGraney
    @KrisGraney Місяць тому +5

    Thank you Markus! And Mat as well. Really Great video. 👍

  • @erickleefeld4883
    @erickleefeld4883 28 днів тому +5

    One thing that mystifies me: How was a Tefifon ribbon manufactured? I get how disc records were stamped out, and that magnetic tapes could be recorded on multi-deck duplicators. But the Tefifon ribbon is an oddity!

    • @avsystem3142
      @avsystem3142 26 днів тому +2

      Grooves in a plastic tape were made similar to that on records, by pressing a stamp into hot plastic. The production machines would be quite different but I can visualize how such a product could be made by creating a cylindrical mold with the linear grooves wrapped around the cylinder in a spiral configuration and then wrapping the raw tape against the hot mold in a corresponding manner. I cannot determine from the video whether the tape is actually fabricated as a full loop or whether there is a joint (I suspect the latter).

  • @johnlewan1114
    @johnlewan1114 28 днів тому +2

    You are becoming the official historian of all things audio. I lost count of how many formats I've never heard of until you showed them here. Thanks for "the timeline" of audio reproduction. And thanks to Markus for additional Tefi history.

  • @jdtseventyfour
    @jdtseventyfour 2 дні тому

    I love how you introduce us all to long forgotten music devices. Your video on minidiscs made me dig mine out of the attic and enjoy them again and buy a NETMD portable as well as more discs pre recorded (that I never owned when I first bought my sharp MD MT190 in 2003) and blank discs too which I have started recording on again. As always a great highly informative and very interesting video. Thanks for sharing

  • @generaldisarray
    @generaldisarray 28 днів тому +6

    Is Marcus on YT, does he have a channel. It would be fascinating to see how he built some of the machines he created, and to see them in action

  • @NeonNightmares
    @NeonNightmares 28 днів тому +4

    Wow, Markus really doing an amazing job! Thank you for keeping the Tefifone alive! :D

  • @Mike-H_UK
    @Mike-H_UK 28 днів тому +2

    Great video and many thanks to Marcus.

  • @Evan-rh4hx
    @Evan-rh4hx 28 днів тому +6

    “A bit of a kerfuffle” that one got me

  • @recklessted
    @recklessted 28 днів тому +4

    I really liked the German version of "Hello Mary Lou" that you played a bit of in your second video. I tried to track down a full version of it some time back, but never had any luck.

  • @aberdeenbelfry316
    @aberdeenbelfry316 28 днів тому +4

    I really enjoyed this episode. Thanks for sharing.

  • @daveys
    @daveys 26 днів тому +1

    Excellent video, many thanks for making this! Wonderful that Marcus is taking time and effort to support these niche items!

  • @chris_is_here_oh_no
    @chris_is_here_oh_no 28 днів тому +1

    Fascinating, thank you for displaying this! Amazing find!

  • @graham581
    @graham581 28 днів тому +4

    Well done Mat and Marcus. Another great informative vid.

  • @DalstonVinyl
    @DalstonVinyl 28 днів тому +5

    I agree that, to my ears, it sounds remarkable good on the embedded recordings, to my great surprise.

  • @padraigcollins6525
    @padraigcollins6525 28 днів тому +1

    Fascinating. Thank you for always making Saturday nights better.

  • @TheSaturatio
    @TheSaturatio 28 днів тому +2

    Great video, thanks to both of you!!!

  • @VanWinger
    @VanWinger 28 днів тому +3

    That tefi band song reminded me of Joanne Castle playing on the Lawrence Welk

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke 28 днів тому +13

    The shrinking plastic idea does seem to be pretty logical, given that people who have precious expensive and rare things still in their original plastic wrapping that too is shrinking (and crushing the contents over time thus making said items less valuable!), the tape getting shorter through shrinkage causing the playback difference makes a lot of sense...

  • @wpherigo1
    @wpherigo1 28 днів тому

    That is amazing! One of the best videos. Great job, both of you!

  • @thomashounsome7737
    @thomashounsome7737 28 днів тому

    A fantastic piece of audio history, and a great video as always! Thank you.

  • @Xeraser2
    @Xeraser2 28 днів тому +8

    I've gotta say, the audio quality is fantastic.

  • @MarkGodfrey73
    @MarkGodfrey73 28 днів тому +6

    That first track on the band. I used to play that in a brass band. "Alexander's ragtime band" I think

    • @electricwheelchair
      @electricwheelchair 28 днів тому +5

      Yep, by Irving Berlin. I was looking if someone already mentioned it. 😀

    • @perrybarton
      @perrybarton 28 днів тому +3

      I was also checking the comments to see if anyone else got that. 🤓

    • @avsystem3142
      @avsystem3142 26 днів тому +2

      Yes, just the track to appeal to German teenagers in the 1950's.

  • @SeraphimKnight
    @SeraphimKnight 27 днів тому +1

    The tefifon video is probably the first video of yours I watched back when it had just been released so it's always nice seeing you go back to it.

  • @markw1london1
    @markw1london1 4 дні тому

    I was amazed at how clean cut the sound was. I found that really interesting. Thanks 🙏🏼

  • @Sigma-INFJ.
    @Sigma-INFJ. 28 днів тому +30

    What a great history lesson. Now I know where the teenager was invented.

    • @GerdLPluu
      @GerdLPluu 28 днів тому +9

      That was never the question, though. The question has always been: Why?

    • @Froggievilleus
      @Froggievilleus 28 днів тому +2

      @@GerdLPluu Teenagers were not really called those until the kerfuffle of WW2. Check out the loads of movies that came into prevalence in the 50s. Movie studios realized an untapped market that still does very well today.

    • @Nolroa
      @Nolroa 28 днів тому +1

      And I thought that teenagers had not been invented but that someone guy with too many marketing notions saw that there was some demographic group out there that could have an economic income and said: “They are not children anymore, they are not adults yet... Will there be some kind of garbage to sell to them?” then he said: “Eureka!, There's a whole pretty diverse demographic of men who aren't men yet but are no longer boys and women who are not yet women but who are no longer girls that we can sell products, movies, pop culture and above all, ideas that wouldn't would be compatible anywhere else with any other defined demographic group, I'll call them: “Teenagers”.

  • @thingi
    @thingi 28 днів тому +4

    Isn't the internet great! A cool Techmoan video kicks of Marcus's Tefi odyssey and then we all get to enjoy it :)