The original Avatar's Special Edition is actually better than the Theatrical Edition. The scenes where Grace talks about Sylwanin were completely absent from the main version because, technically, they weren't needed but they added much more depth to Grace as well as world building. If Way of Water has a Special Edition that's half that good, Cameron could milk it by releasing it in cinemas just like he did for the first movie.
Chris Gore is a dunce. An opinionated dunce but still a dunce who thinks he's a better writer than filmmakers like James Cameron and George Lucas. I looked at his filmography and the idiot hasn't accomplished jack shit. James Cameron and George Lucas accomplished more as whippersnappers than Gore has accomplished in 57 years. He's like Mike Stoklassa except not quite as bitter. I left a comment on one of his videos with the Critical Drinker, whom I actually like but the Drinker is nowhere near as intelligent as he thinks he is. He clearly didn't understand that Annihilation's alien was intentionally designed to operate outside of human logic and has the same retarded view of Cameron and Lucas' writing abilities that Gore has. Anyway, in my comment, I pointed out that the ONLY objectively bad dialogue in cinema is Yoda's dialogue because he can't say his sentences correctly. Thing is, even that dialogue was done INTENTIONALLY. Not only that, but I might be the only person in the world who actually points out that it was bad because everybody loves Yoda. Any other dialogue that is "objectively bad" at least follows a coherent sentence structure.
I never understood the amount of hate the original got and I certainly don't get why anyone would want a movie like this to fail. Doesn't matter, got my tickets. I'm ready!
The dances with wolves similarities along with being so advertised on its CG aesthetics may have given people the impression it was all style no substance.
You cant say that Avatar or The Way of Water are just cheap, Hollywood cash grabs. I mean, other than James Cameron and his genius with 3D, nothing about these movies make them a guarantee for success. These movies are straight from James Cameron's own heart and soul and you can see it
You single handily are one of the best viewer responses to one of, if not my most beloved franchise of all time. Your feedback and response was greatly appreciated and welcomed. Oel ngati kameie
Cameron did as good as a job as he could’ve. I’m in for chapter 3. You really feel like they pushed the envelope as far as they could. I appreciate the effort they put into it
@@morgothfromangband6082 and you are the problem.. a lot of JC's fanbase shit on Avatar and are upset because he didn't direct a proper T3 or make another Aliens film and instead went on to make Titanic and Avatar.. 5+ billion dollars later... and now Avatar 2 & 3 and they simply can't embrace...
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A lot of questions some people might have were answered in the HQs. Also, Spider was never adopted by Jake and Neytiri (maybe by Jake at the very end of the movie, but even that is a stretch, cause it isn’t made clear). He was raised by a human couple that were among the humans allowed to stay in Pandora, but he really connected with the way of the Na’vi and especially with the Sully children, spending a lot of time with them, so he’s a lot like the “neighbor friend” in that sense. Jake even calls him a “stray cat” and Neytiri freaking hates his guts.
this is the most hypocritical positive review I've ever seen, but good on you for finding something you liked! honestly you sound more comfortable being more positive.
@@CastroStudios1 I am specifically saying a lot of the things he was complaining about with Star Wars was what he was being hypocritical about a bit but it was nice to hear him be positive
@@chanceprine None of the stuff he's complained about in Star Wars is present here. He's made it 100% clear that anything done by the ORIGINAL CREATOR is perfectly within their right. That's one of the reasons why he's consistently defended the Star Wars Prequels with a passion that might have saved the franchise if he'd done it before George Lucas sold it to the shitstains at Disney. His issue is when other people take the work of an original creator and ruin it, which is exactly what happened with Star Wars.
I didn't mind the first one. It didn't blew me away, but it did stuck with me and I still remember the characters. This one was fine too, even if the tropes were telegraphed. Hell, I'm more invested in Avatar now than I am with Disney Star Wars.
I actually adored the section where we just explored our characters learning the way of water; seeing them swim was beautiful and really helped me sink (pun very much intended) into this world's ocean. The action was cool, but smaller moments like this helped establish the setting. This really helped me connect with the characterization and seeing how our characters adapted and developed with this alien environment, even for them.
I don't really care about the story borrowing things from other stories. All stories do that. Star Wars is just the most basic heroes journey told in a unique world. Avatar and this sequel have basic stories in a unique world. Pandora is it's originality. It's direction is it's originality. It's visuals are its originality. And it's always executed well by Cameron.
i think that people need to respect that cameron created an original ip & his own universe. We need more original movies & new ideas. Every idea comes from something because nothing is new under the sun. cameron is a breathe of fresh air just like maverick
My problem with Avatar is the absolute hatred of humanity it has. The movie never addresses anything deep about the humans. For so much of a businessman the expedition was, he never thought about trading with the Na'vi. For so much of a seasoned soldier Quarich was, he never considered that their military resources were limited. They didn't have ammo factories, gun factories, pharmaceuticals factories, tool factories, nothing to replace the tons of bullets, weapons, and machinery that they'd run through even ina successful bombing of the Na'vi. The Na'vi having home tactical advantage is such an understatement to a level no one has ever experienced. Quarich didn't understand it even when he said "Everything in this planet is out to kill you." What did he expect out of bombing the tree of souls? That the Na'vi would just give up? They'd even more ravenously try to execute every single human for the rest of their lives and Quarich, again, simply doesn't have the replacement of soldiers of tools, of guns and ammo, of anything that they'd need for an eternal war against a species that hates his kind with a passion and has nothing to lose. Avatar didn't even go all the way to make humans actually badass evil imperialist mothereffers that even the audience can hop on and hate. The movie didn't address the situation on earth. "The earth is dying" is the only explanation we get. You'd think the ship to save the earth would be filled with the best and brightest of humanity to try and make things work, but things just don't, gradually fall apart and the humans are left with the last resort option of going to war for the mineral that'd save the earth. Boom. Better story right there... but that isn't what the ship is filled with. But there is a line in the movie where the businessman says he's tried offering medicine to the Na'vi and the Na'vi rejects his offer. And my answer to that is... Is that the ONLY thing the Na'vi could need? They could have exchanged guns and technology for mining permissions. No, the Na'vi are happy with their arrows and flying mounts. They could have offered manpower to help the Na'vi with problems against another tribe. No, the Na'vi is completely and absolutely at peace with their surrounding tribes and have no feuds whatsoever. They could have offered farming techniques or other practical knowledge that would still help the Na'vi if they rejected technology. No, because Ewa gives everything to the Na'vi. That's the last I have to say, on the virtue of being not human and primitive... The Na'vi are perfect... So perfect... That even their God... acts openly in their favor. Nothing up to interpretation, which is what causes horrific religious violence... Nope... Ewa is an actual thing that exists while humans are still trying to figure that out. The movie might as well be saying that humans are so shit that their god just noped out of the earth and went to pandora, and when humans appeared, it helped the Na'vi expel them.
I think i haven't seen anyone of the Avatar haters offer these criticisms. Not even the guy in the video you linked a few days ago had faced them and I even agreed with his defences of the movie cause, apparently, all the criticisms he, and you in this video point out, really are superficial. I hope you read this and tell me what you think about, if I do say so myself, these meaty actual criticisms.
Future movies are supposed to address the fate of Earth and humanity. I understand your issues. I just found Jesus you might say. I dont believe in this Eywa nonsense. But these Avatar characters believe in Eywa as we should believe in Jesus. Paganism has been a real problem, keeping many cultures apart. These movies paint fairy tales about natives and their pagan beliefs. Hollywood is run by antichrists. They hate Jesus. Heck, there are porn producers blatantly stating that they hate Christ. So of course they're not going to add or attribute any great Christian values. They have antichrist agendas and it shows when you look at the rainbow programming on Disney+ Jesus was meant to and succeeded in bringing many pagan cultures together under one name and one God. Jesus ended ritual sacrifice, creating a mutual love and respect for our fellow man. For our neighbors. But if you read up on pagan cultures in the Congo, they're still eating their neighbors. Good thing for Jake Sully that Eywa was looking for him to make that kind of sacrifice.... I love watching Cameron's craftsmanship with 3D cinematography. Hes the greatest filmmaker working today. That's the biggest reason why I'm excited to these Avatar movies. I want to see what else Cameron can do.
@@tabaflip I think James Cameron might be a bit of a misanthrope. Honestly, considering he's surrounded by the worst of humanity in Hollywood, I don't really blame him. Knowing that people like Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, Ezra Miller, Kathleen Kennedy, Bob Iger and Amber Heard are allowed to waltz around scott free until the rats decide to throw one or two of them under the bus to protect their own arses must affect a guy's faith in humanity after a while. No wonder George Lucas got the hell out of dodge as soon as he was rich enough to do so. Frankly, Cameron should have followed his and Francis Ford Coppola's examples. He has enough money to fund his movies independently at this point, so he doesn't need to work with the corrupt shitstains in the mainstream movie industry anymore.
I really respect Nomz and agree with a lot of his views on other things but Avatar isn't for me and the reasons here are my surface reasons, based on my perspective of the first movie. Is the new one really that black and white with the humans? I mean, I grew up with deeper sci fi that actually lets you interpret the questions it asks about it's themes. Like let's use the environmentalism of the first movie. Why are the human fixating on Pandora, a planet they can't naturally breathe on that they have to clone the natives as biological machines to get around and interact? Sure, there's a unobtanium there but that isn't going to fix earth which was the whole point of the first expedition, right? A secure energy crisis caused by climate dystopia back home? Also if they can make an avatar, why don't the humans have advanced technology such as Cybernetic enhancements, or terraforming technology, technologies that are theoretical now. Another criticism I have is, the humans have a Private Military Corporation full of veteran marines but apart from the scientists and Jake, everyone seems cartoonishly evil and bent on getting this unobtanium in a way that seems deliberate about how it's presented and done, so they use deforestation and military force to get what they want. I can get that, Corporate suits want results and don't care how, but there has to be a better solution. Another criticism I got is, in a military operation, you need logistics, that gets your troops and tanks ammo. You have an air force of VTOLs and transport units. That sort of thing, another thing I gotta note is Cameron has some real biases against anything military that bows and arrows supposedly can beat armored attack vehicles, mech suits (which for some reason don't liok like they got any armor at all. They're exosuits but don't look equipped, still shouldn't be easy to take down by Na'vi weapons. Jake falling in love with Ney'tiri is fine, but he doesn't even teach the Nav'i basics of how humans operate in military tactics, just the general gist of how marines are would get you somewhere. Their victory disdn't feel earned because no matter how many bows and arrows you got, you're not going to have an easy time against mechanized infantry, vehicles you'd at least need C4 explosives or a rocket launcher to stop, and not one on the Nav'i side even steals human weaponry. The Planet of the Apes movies got this point pretty well, it's a basic part of warfare. When your enemy has bigger and better weapons, you use guerilla warfare to get those better weapons, then ambush your enemy, sabotage. and then attack strategically. I don't excactly know what the Navi weapons are made of, but no wood is going to beat metal armor without at least a grenade on the arrow. Also note how no one in the Human military opposes the corporation? Ultimately, it's an entertaining movie with a very strong amti-human bias with too little nuance for my tastes, and I say this as someone who liked back in the day, but as a much older adult than the late teen I was, I don't really see it as deeply as I used to after ten years of doing my own writing, learning history, philosophy and stuff. The storyline needs you enjoy the visuals so you miss that it's very black and white with it's moralization themes, which aren't going to reach everyone. I also have to level a criticism that supposedly anyone slightly criticizing the movie is somehow a hater. I hate that fandom word now, it's a word that deliberately brands "hey, these people are haters, they're just nutjobs with nothing good to say" people into tribalism which isn't true. I don't hate the movie. I just don't see the movie as hype and well. these past few years I've had a lot of environmentalism shoved into my head by my government and these Just Stop Oil activists blocking streets in the UK, when they d things that are just wrong. It's made me less receptive to Environmentalist themes in my fiction. I want to enjoy a good story, not be subtly lectured on why humans are always these evil destroyers of nature as opposed to being capable of both destroying and saving it. I might watch the second movie, but James Cameron's recent interviews also made me question his writing as well as some of his ideas in Terminator: Dark Fate.
@@tabaflip You're wrong about something. The RDA actually had automated factories on Hell's Gate which built all the military equipment. It's in the lore that their stuff is made in situ using advanced automated 3D printing tech. Also Quaritch wasn't expecting the literal planet to fight against him at the end. He only expected Na'vi forces which he mostly strolled over until they were caught offguard by Ewya sending the whole wildlife to fight
I finally watched it and I really enjoyed it. I really felt the length of the film in the third act, but on the other hand I didn't feel like there was a single pointless scene in it.
Reason people.on the left don't like it: Strong family values, highlighting the importance of a father figure Reason people on the right don't like it: protecting nature Us normal people are just left to sit and enjoy 😮
actually alot of the left criticisms are to do with the "white saviour" aspect of the narrative as well Cameron has gone on record saying they are approaching this from a civil rights standpoint instead of how he intended which is from a historical one
@@anomalyinc3239 yeah, that too. Probably a few reasons on both side. But all bullshit pathetic reasons. Plenty of movies pushing damaging agendas, this ain't one of them.
I feel like the Prequel haters cult has lost the hold on Star Wars and now they've moved on to Avatar. I see the same attitudes where these people keep loudly repeating the same shitty points over and over again as if to convince themselves, no matter how many times you debunk them
I always liked Avatar. I had some issues with it but they were 99% subjective and the 1% can be easily looked past. My issue with this movie was what Cameron said about it. Cure for climate change or toxic masculinity or whatever he said was poison for me. The other thing is the humans got their asses kicked in the last movie so what’s gonna happen in this one? They win? Doubt it even if that’s more realistic (it’s like sharks with lazerbeams on their heads take on orcas). Love Avatar, not interested in the second one until it’s on TV. 3d is pretty cool though
Avatar The Way of water is an 6/10 objectively. Mostly because. Why, didn’t Jake and neytiri connect all there kids too the tree. Like they did with kitty. So they all can have tree powers. And shit. Plus the spider kid should have been set up in the last movie. Also the Colonel making a clone. Should’ve been set up in the last movie. or at least teased. Other than that I thoroughly enjoyed the movie. My not objective rating is 8/10. My favorite characters are Jake. His father and skills were great to see. In modern day movies. Plus his wife Neytiri helping him to be a bit softer on his kids. Which is good for their improvement. Neteyam was a great. older brother. He will still follow the rules but when his families in trouble he will have to save them. Kiri was good I just wish others in the family have a power. Spider was really good. I just wish he didn’t save the villain. It makes some sense but you know he’s gonna come back in the next movie the villain of course. Neytiri was ok. I just wish the dislike for Spider was shown more. That would have boosted her character up for me. That’s the objective take. For her but I still enjoyed her. I didn’t like Lo'ak. His character at the end of the movie really improved him to just an OK for me. I wish his mistakes were at least lessened. What I mean by that at least just three. Because it felt like Way too much. But he is a teenager so it makes sense. But I don’t wanna wash that too much. And a high frame rate for me it didn’t really bother at all I really enjoyed it. I play PC games at High frame rates . all the time so it was good. To be honest I wish they kept it at that high frame rate the whole movie. But it’s understandable. For the fight scenes. To slow it down a bit
okay well the first movie was a stand alone that wrapped up all its plot threads, reason being the deal wasnt done for the sequels yet and the scripts hadnt been written only vague outlines as for Kiri she didn't get her powers from a tree so i have no idea what you're on about there
I hated the original. Not because of the movie itself but because my friend would insist on watching it everytime we hung out. So I ended up watching it 10+ times in a short period and grew to despise it at age 13.
I think the movie was too bloated in characters and story But I did enjoy the movie and liked the spectacle I don’t agree that this was better than Top Gun tho
I saw the movie today and I thought it was enjoyable. I liked the kids and the family bond between them and their parents. It was just nice to see a loving family where everybody wants the best for everyone else. There have been so many movies on dysfunctional and abusive dynamics in families in Hollywood that it's just nice to see one where everything is based on love - even the conflicts within the family. I hope Cameron gets to complete his avatar series because for me they are great escapism. I don't think the writing is always the best, but it's not that kind of movie. It's it wants to be a fun and emotional ride and people have to be in that mindset when they go to watch it. I think it's a waste of time to try and talk sense into/bashing the nay sayers. I tried to have a discussion with one earlier and by the end I realized I was probably talking to either a child or and adult with a childish mindset. It was basically a "no you" type of response I got and then I dropped it because it doesn't matter when the person you talk to isn't interested in actually discussing a film but just wants to be right and own you. Whatever. Their cynicism has caused them to miss out on fun experience which is a shame because movies the last few years have been utterly pathetic. There a reason I don't watch movies anymore. I used to watch around a hundred movies a year, no joke. Avatar is the fourth movie I have watched this year and I probably one of the best ones. I saw Threads (ironically, only 4 days before Russia invaded Ukraine, so that was fun), The Northman (which I didn't like, but I respect), Where the Crawdads Sing (basically super shitty YA love triangle that was marketed as a cool crime thriller) and then Avatar, The Way of Water which was the only movie I say this year that made me feel good. When you only watch four movies a year, you learn to appreciate some good escapism. I don't regret spending money on this film. I have reached the age where I understand that my time is finite and money isn't hanging on trees. I spend my time and money very carefully nowadays. Avatar is 3 hours and 12 minutes long. I expected an easy to follow story with some emotional pay offs and some cool spectacle. I got what I paid for and I got to forget about my worries for 3 hours and 12 minutes. Happy costumer. Though, if it had been longer I would have peed myself by the end, lol.
This movie was so bad it gave me an appreciation for the original, which I already liked. The original avoided everything I disliked about this movie’s story like the pacing and the young characters.
@TheAutistWhisperer That's fair. I just wish those standards weren't so draconian. Maybe then there'd be more people who could enjoy a decent movie for what it is instead of feeling the need to tear it down for its faults, or just assume it's bad going in.
Not sure why I should have to recognise the same things that you do. I watched the first movie, and I didn't like it. I had seen Pocahontas before when I was a kid. Didn't really need to see it redone with aliens.
Yeah i loved the part where Aang started bending water to fight off the capitalist pigs and their polution. And the moment Captain Planet showed up and all the water benders screamed "Go Planet" and he defeated Morbius by giving him a bath using the way of water. It was a no way home level movie.
I don't like DC either but they gave us "The Batman" and I enjoyed that whats your point? also Disney owns the distribution rights because they bought Fox but its quite evident from having seen the movie that Disney had practically nothing to do with it since most of it was written and filmed prior to the purchase of Fox
@@anomalyinc3239 I liked the latest Batman movie but I didn’t like everything. Robert should have put some muscle on for the movie. My Dad didn’t like that the Batman movie didn’t have the comic feel that the Tim Burton Batman movies did have. I just want a good movie. I thought that movie was good but the Dark Knight was a better live action Batman movie. I still think Mask of the Phantasm is a great Batman movie too. I am hoping that James Gunn and Peter Sefram can make a good DC Universe. I think they could have made a good Superman movie with Henry Cavill. Just make a movie with him, Shazam and Black Adam but with Shazam showing Superman how to bevth3 hero he is meant to be. James has a different idea with a different actor. I just hope he makes a good movie that I like.
Not sure if I will see it though I am glad to hear you enjoyed it Nomz. As for me, I thought the first Avatar was okay. Visually stunning, but okay. When I think of Avatar, I think Last Airbender (not the movie).
I wouldn't say I'm a fan of the first Avatar but I definitely enjoyed it at the time and have been optimistic about the sequels. After seeing Avatar 2 tonight, I absolutely enjoyed the shit out of this movie. I was all in. Yeah, the movie drags after a while but it picks up towards the end. Can't wait for more.
I completely agree with everything you’ve said. I’m a massive fan and so I know that no matter it’s faults, I will still love it. Unfortunately as much as ITCH to watch the spoiler section of this movie, this is the one movie that I actually have to exercise restraint. I caved for Spider-Man: No Way Home, and although that didn’t ruin my experience in the theater I still wish I’d had the strength to pull away from the leaks and spoilers. I’ve been anticipating this movie since seeing this movie for the first time nearly 6 years ago, I’ve CRAVED more of this world. And now, i only know as much as the tv spots have shown me, and it’s taking all my willpower to pause and turn away. Especially since I will be seeing it Saturday. One more day and I can be set free from the waiting. What I have seen of your review just makes me happy, I’ve been getting so much Avatar hate videos show up in my recommends that it’s nice to just see someone cut through the bullshit for once. Us fans have to lift each other up and keep screaming our appreciation for these films if we want this franchise to survive the next decade.
YES ANNOMALY I KNEW YOU HAD GOOD TASTE!!! Let me just share my thoughts : Back when AVATAR was released, there were news articles depicting a large number of people feeling depression and suicidal after watching the movie. As someone who felt this depression after seeing the movie for the first time in cinemas, I can tell you that the depression does not stem from the want to be on Pandora, the depression stems from the fact that this Earth IS Pandora. The depression settles in as more realizations begin to occur. Humanity is allowing itself to become a disease to the planet, all for the sake of material gain. In any movie review of James Cameron’s AVATAR, we are mostly told it is praised for it’s CGI and not for it’s story. Which for the most part, lacked originality. Comparisons are made to previous stories. Stories such as Ferngully, Pocahontas, and Dances with Wolves. Yet, what astounds me is that while people compare AVATAR to these films, they do not compare it to the events and situations that these films are focused on. Events and situations that are still ongoing to this day. AVATAR uses symbolism and imagery to portray the atrocities committed by the Corporatocracy. And, how our ignorance not only allows these atrocities to occur - but, also has halted our evolution. AVATAR is not only a social commentary on the Extortion of Natural Resources, Exploitation of Indigenous Peoples, or Aboriginal Genocide. It is a simulation of what life can be.. Every claim in my analysis can be researched by anyone and a clear consensus can be reached. The film not only shows that the planet we are from is the mother of all life, it shows an alternative form of humanity. The Na'Vi are representative of Neohumanism*, the next stage in our evolutionary path. The humans depicted in the film are clearly shown to be from the Western world. Working for Corporations that seek to maximize profits regardless of social or environmental loss. So, what we have here is a film depicting two possible forms of humanity, the old paradigm vs the new paradigm, I hope my video shows you a new perspective on life or affirms your perspective. Enjoy.
The whales, like unobtanium, are just a mcguffin. I just hope they established by now enought world building to not put in the plot another mcguffin that brings the humans to Pandora. I liked the whole 'earth is dying and humans are desperate' narrative, and imho the whale fluid kinda slows it down a little.
1st movie was a different battle, it was an all out war, there were more clans and soldiers, Avatar 2 they were caught off guard and only had one clan to fight with and the fight was a much more personal vendetta confrontation
3D good? avatar 1 good? okay. i have to respectfully disagree. i didn't like the original pocahontas, and i sure as shit won't like the blue remake of it. the effects were the one thing ppl dug about that movie. this is also how i've fallen for the trap, to watch it. friends told me the effects are amazing. should've been a red flag back then, cause why the hell would nobody even talk about the story? and i'm not kidding, here in switzerland, not one person ever spoke with me about the movies story. everybody was just like "the effects, man". ppl have been mesmerized by the shiny lights. wish the first movie would release now, so that it would have to fend for the box office, without the 2 crutches it had. the return of 3D (and we all seen what that was worth, aside from making every TV a tad bit more expensive, it made no positiv numbers in the long run) and the tech that was impressive. in current year, the effects would spell monday at best, cause we've seen it all now, from unbelievably well made CGI, to the worst imaginable. gonna reserve my judgement for this one if i ever watch it, but as the first one is one of three movies that i've fallen asleep to, in the cinema. and i feel like i won't put my feet in those waters. but glad if you liked it, hope you're ready for camerons eradication of testosterone. that's the actual issue. cameron opened the flood gates for the CGI fest we endured. he is the architect of the woke CGI movie era we had now. even if he may have never really planned the woke part. whilst he tried to raise the bar, as south park put it so well, he somehow opened up a portal, right into hell. funniest shit, not even 2 weeks after i've seen the first one, my life started to fall apart in lightspeed. gonna check that maya calendar, and see if 2009 spelled a blue catastrophe being released on the world.
To hate on Avatar means you have no standard. This story belongs in the same genre as superhero transformers harry potter star wars jurrssic park etc yet rises above all tge latest of such types. This hands down is the best action blockbuster of the past 10 years
I don’t believe this world how all the animals just band together no questions asked against the military is just stupid to me. In a world like monster hunter it doesn’t matter that hunters are around if one monster steps on another monsters turf there not gonna be sympathetic there gonna try to kill eachother no matter if there outgunned or not
Assuming you're talking about the 1st Avatar That's because there is a literal biological god that influenced them to do it And it was setup in the movie
I'm indifferent to Avatar as I don't really care for it. Sure I can name themes I don't like such as my disdain for the "Noble Savage" narrative; but it isn't the only narrative/trope I dislike. My bigger one being having the National Socialists part of some big scheme years after they're defeated is more my pet peeve of stories nowadays. But glad to hear you enjoyed the movie. And honestly I would rather James Cameron make his passion project; even if I personally don't care for it. But Avatar just isn't my thing, so I'll just let those that do enjoy it alone and have their time. And nice to hear a positive review. Now if Cameron would not put himself in a bad light, which might sour some people.
As someone who speaks a latin language, Avatar names are very easy to pronounce for me so I always find it funny when someone says it in a way I would have never imagined. 😂
I don't think I am as avid a fan as you and I do love the passion. the first movie for me was a classic tale done well. You don't have to be wholly original but if you can tell a story that has been seen before... aand do it well it will be enjoyable. It is why the heroes journey is and has existed for aa long time..... really the only thing I disliked/nitpicked for the movie is... 10+ years waiting for the second movie and then they had to announce it would be another one every year or two. THere is a part of me that wants that idea to fail cause if it is built around stretching out over several movies something that could be told in a trilogy no. If it is something that is going to go like say John Carter where after the third movie the main character changes to the children and then grandchildren... I could go with that.
I though the first avatar was very basic but not bad. The 2nd one blew me out the fckin water. I almost forgot this was a disney movie. I didn't pay for it someone else paid for it😂 but anyway, when it ended I literally shouted wtf. But in a good way with hunger and desire for more. I've never done that with any movie. And idk if they were going for a cliffhanger but to me it felt half the movie ended and another one just begun🤔 in a future movie I'd love to see them go back to earth with some human avatars, or maybe go to other planets. Edit: 10 months later Theyre going back to earth for either the 4th or 5th movie. They eventually explore more of the universe. 3 will introduce fire navi.
@@anomalyinc3239 I just love your rants, so it was a pleasant surprise of “oh, he actually liked it”. I didn’t dislike Avatar, the visuals were fun, saw it in 4DX on New Year’s Eve. But I watched the Banshees of Inisherin with my mum yesterday and we both apologetically admitted to each other that we actually enjoyed that film more, and joked how cheaply made and simple the film was yet we preferred over the blockbuster.
Sorry bro but I just can’t fall in love with avatar the way you do. I enjoyed the first movie when I was a kid it had a lot of potential and an interesting New World. I was hoping they did something, more with the next movie but it just didn’t satisfy me man ,sorry.
saw it in theaters and loved it. my only real gripes is that the 3d sort of hampered my enjoyment alitte. i am not at all used to 3d so the insane depth within the screen was slightly distracting
I'm curious to see this. Not a fan, but I think the first film is enjoyable. That being said I find it hilarious that Goncharov has more fics on AO3 than Avatar. Where are all the Avatar fics at?
I watched a pirated version. Really liked it, but have a lot of questions. Who is Kiri's father? Who is Spider's mother? How do they communicate with the whales? How is Spider gonna live with them without oxygen supply and a place to live in?
This movie almost put me to sleep within the first half hour. I really liked the 1st one even though it had a lot of issues. This movie felt like it wasn't needed
Here are other complaints about avatar, the dialog is pretty weak, the characters are bland, the story is pretty god damn uninspired(even when I try to exclude the fact that yes it does have a lot of elements from other movies) its not a story that draws me in. It all felt like an excuse for some really good visuals and yes it did bring that. I'm not aggressively against this, your aggressive defence of it I find most annoying and your bias is just so obvious that it kind of invalidates your review. "Avatar 2 is awesome, as long as you love all things Avatar" you do see how this review just tells some of us fence sitters not watch it
i fail to see how telling people that fans of the previous movies will be pleased while fence sitters will likely have a good time but not necessarily be converted to the avatar church is an unreliable review if anything id say that's being realistic and i still thought the original Avatar was the better all round movie which should also be a clear indicator of trying temper peoples expectations especially if they weren't fans of the original in which case i have no idea why they'd wanna see the new one but then again a lot of Avatar hate is fake as shit so........ im betting most of em went anyway
I feel like avatar2 is like two different films stitched together and made it quite difficult to be a universally enjoyed film. The middle part with the kids learning the way of water is great and really appeal to the work building fans puts a stop to the plot and felt like it is just jammed in. I enjoyed it personally but I would prefer it to be a separate thing and a tighter blockbuster focusing on the conflict. This just made it more bloated for people who expected a typical blockbuster. Still interested to see the sequels and how it develops with the audience reception of this film!
I’m gonna be real with you didn’t see the first Avatar till 2015. It had too much hype in 2009 in my high school. When I first saw it in 2015 I regretted not seeing it in theaters. I liked it a lot actually, and when Twow came out; first day I saw it and LOved it !
I understand all the criticisms of the film but I can still sit down and enjoy it for what it is. Appreciate the work and sense of cinematic experience about an amazing spec evo world and the struggles of the Sully family in this new world that Cameron gave us. I think thats what helps make it so appealing to many people.
No spoilers but yeah the final act is a little titanicish and the secondary story plot should have been the main plot because it was believable and the main plot should have been secondary but over all great movie
Love the original , love the sequel .. I was amazed by how spectacular the movie feels .. it was so refreshing to zone out of the real world and got lost in the world of pandora . I enjoyed when the movie slowed down and and we got to see the under water scenes. The action scenes were amazing and 3 hours felt super short .. I wasn’t ready for it to end
Well I wasn't too impressed by the first one (I saw it once in the cinema). Then again I don't get the vitriol either. At least it's not the same generic mindless Marvel/DCU-crap. At least it is something different (visually). I'll wait a month or two and watch it with a few mates with a couple beer/vinos in my favo underground cinema. Don't expect much but that doesn't matter. Then again, don't get the hate towards other youtube creators either (they are usually right on the money)
James Cameron can raise the bar even more at home. This film needs a 4k 3d home edition. I'm done trying to chose the better experience for the film I want.
Funny to hear you beat on critical viewers when your whole channel is based on being very critical :-) and its best to keep the feelings out of critique. You can say you hate that ppl bandwagon on an opinion if that is what you experience. But dont shove things down the throat of critical viewers. Youd get force-fed all your own videos by armies of desenters.
@@anomalyinc3239 are we not allowed to dislike Avatar without being a bandwagoner? Does that mean that all you people who made Avatar 1 the highest grossing movie of all time were just bandwagoning? Your dismissal of our criticism can easily be turned against you.
@@jornavyr2459 lol I love the absolute lack of any arguments in these comments just vaguely spewing the word "criticism" or thoroughly debunked bad faith arguments from 10 fuckin years ago
I hated the first movie as a kid, it felt bland and unforgettable. The only memorable thing was the 3d fad wich clearly ended. It did have a tired and played out nobel savage and evil white man myth. A strong emphasis on myth. I may check this out but I doubt it will top Maverick no pun intended. Plus seriously, no I'm not a hater Cameron has made two of my favorite film's. Although, the man is woke he had a hand in terminator genesis.
Ugh well looks like I have to go see it just spent friggin 26 euros wtf happened man in 2005 I could go for 6 my income hasn't quadrupled, u can forget about it reaching 3 billion for this reason
The first Avatar is just an ok movie to me. It's good, maybe even slightly above average but definitely fine. The Way of Water is actually awful. Retarded retcons, BS motivations, nonsensical actions, almost an hour of time wasting filler and terrible characters. I can't see defending this trash heap
The first one looked dumb never saw it and have no desire to see the second one. I’m glad you like it but uhhh yeah I’m going to pass on this franchise
The best performances in the movie are from Sam Worthington and Stephan Lang. Every single time those two were onscreen, especially when they were sharing it, they stole the show and even surpassed legends like Zoe Saldana, Sigourney Weaver and Kate Winslet. Bringing back Miles Quaritch could have very easily backfired but to be honest, I don't think this movie would be anywhere near as good without him. Sam Worthington and Stephan Lang have excellent hero and villain chemistry so whenever they're interacting, even if they aren't sharing the same space, I feel like they hate each other but also have a mutual respect in the way that any true warrior will respect a worthy opponent. Zoe Saldana did well but didn't have as much screen time as she deserved. The standout moment from her was when Neteyam died and, I won't lie, I cried during that scene. I didn't actually care about Neteyam himself but seeing Neytiri become hysterical over his body was heartbreaking. Then seeing her transition from grief-stricken mother into deadly warrior within the span of just a couple of minutes was chilling. She pulled herself together and, without saying a word, you knew she was out for blood just from the way she carried herself as she stormed to her Ikran. Sigourney Weaver was a bit shaky as Kiri, which is understandable considering she's in her seventies and playing a teenager. I don't think that's ever been done before, not even in voice acting, and it must have been surreal to have Sam Worthington, who's 27 years younger than she is, calling her "Baby girl". However, the CGI genuinely made her look like a teenage Na'vi and to her credit, Sigourney still has enough physical strength to move like one, which is perhaps most notable when she hops onto her "mum's" incubator tank without any visible effort. My only real issue is some of her line deliveries. Saying dialogue doesn't involve her age, unless all the physical exertion left her so exhausted that she couldn't speak as effortlessly as usual. Kate Winslet was good but Ronal basically shamed the title of Tsahik, something that was thankfully intentional since Neytiri scornfully said "You are Tsahik!" at one point. Dang, if she had such disgust for Ronal, imagine if Mo'at had been there. They would probably have come to blows due to how drastically different their approaches to being the Na'vi's spiritual leaders were. Speaking of Mo'at, we barely saw her at all and I don't remember her even getting a line, so I hope she gets a bigger role in the next film. In the first Avatar, she managed to be authoritative without ever being outright confrontational like Ronal was and in some ways, it actually made Mo'at come across as the stronger of the two, like she was so confident in her abilities and connection to Eywa that she had no need to compensate by riding into battle whilst pregnant or constantly seeking conflict with her guests.
I'm saying it was received well No one made fun of it people emotion where they were meant to be happy when they were meant to be laughed where they were meant to be laugh And just overall responded well to it
From what I’ve heard it’s cliche and plays on the idea of colonization/conquistador, industrialization and manifest destiny in space in the future. Which that doesn’t mean it’s a bad movie, the first one did the same, played on the idea and history of colonization and the greed and abuse of early private corporations in pre industrialization and industrialization age I thought the first was good too, I saw it in theaters on mushrooms lol but overtime it’s just gotten kinda boring
Avatar 1 was entertaining. Avatar 2 is entertaining in a different way. But more than a 7/10 for both is edging on thirsting. Thirsting for what, is different for everyone, but it is what it is...
I liked the movie and how it looks, I think it's a good movie but it does have a lot of problems I can see like the middle of the movie is pretty boring for me and nothing happens, I don't like the human kid (spider) because he has little character development over the movie's runtime with him making stupid decisions, and some of the characters are pretty generic but that's just what I think, pls don't be angry at me.
Me: i loved Avatar The Way of Water
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Will do chief
Sully abandoning his people for his B is very consistent😂
Hell. Fckin. Yea. Glad you loved it. Can’t wait. I’m peacing out at seven minutes in, don’t wanna spoil too much
The original Avatar's Special Edition is actually better than the Theatrical Edition. The scenes where Grace talks about Sylwanin were completely absent from the main version because, technically, they weren't needed but they added much more depth to Grace as well as world building. If Way of Water has a Special Edition that's half that good, Cameron could milk it by releasing it in cinemas just like he did for the first movie.
Chris Gore is a dunce. An opinionated dunce but still a dunce who thinks he's a better writer than filmmakers like James Cameron and George Lucas. I looked at his filmography and the idiot hasn't accomplished jack shit. James Cameron and George Lucas accomplished more as whippersnappers than Gore has accomplished in 57 years. He's like Mike Stoklassa except not quite as bitter.
I left a comment on one of his videos with the Critical Drinker, whom I actually like but the Drinker is nowhere near as intelligent as he thinks he is. He clearly didn't understand that Annihilation's alien was intentionally designed to operate outside of human logic and has the same retarded view of Cameron and Lucas' writing abilities that Gore has. Anyway, in my comment, I pointed out that the ONLY objectively bad dialogue in cinema is Yoda's dialogue because he can't say his sentences correctly. Thing is, even that dialogue was done INTENTIONALLY. Not only that, but I might be the only person in the world who actually points out that it was bad because everybody loves Yoda. Any other dialogue that is "objectively bad" at least follows a coherent sentence structure.
I never understood the amount of hate the original got and I certainly don't get why anyone would want a movie like this to fail. Doesn't matter, got my tickets. I'm ready!
Same reason MCU fans tanked Black Adam. They want to kill competition.
The dances with wolves similarities along with being so advertised on its CG aesthetics may have given people the impression it was all style no substance.
You cant say that Avatar or The Way of Water are just cheap, Hollywood cash grabs. I mean, other than James Cameron and his genius with 3D, nothing about these movies make them a guarantee for success. These movies are straight from James Cameron's own heart and soul and you can see it
You single handily are one of the best viewer responses to one of, if not my most beloved franchise of all time. Your feedback and response was greatly appreciated and welcomed. Oel ngati kameie
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I see this as a James Cameron film way more than a disney product.
having watched the film its very evident that they just let him do his thing
@@anomalyinc3239 oh yes because you understand the workings of a multi billion dollar company.
Cameron did as good as a job as he could’ve. I’m in for chapter 3. You really feel like they pushed the envelope as far as they could. I appreciate the effort they put into it
Cameron has given the world something beautiful and nobody can simply say thank you and accept it anymore. I think it’s sad
Maybe because he believes that testosterone is a “toxin”
I would prefer Alien 5.
@@morgothfromangband6082 and you are the problem.. a lot of JC's fanbase shit on Avatar and are upset because he didn't direct a proper T3 or make another Aliens film and instead went on to make Titanic and Avatar.. 5+ billion dollars later... and now Avatar 2 & 3 and they simply can't embrace...
@@abjames3098 I am not an Avatar fan at all.
@@morgothfromangband6082 🤣🤣🤣 seriously bro, not a fan 🤭🤭😁😁😂😂🤣🤣
Why bro, why are you here????...🤣🤣🤣
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A lot of questions some people might have were answered in the HQs.
Also, Spider was never adopted by Jake and Neytiri (maybe by Jake at the very end of the movie, but even that is a stretch, cause it isn’t made clear). He was raised by a human couple that were among the humans allowed to stay in Pandora, but he really connected with the way of the Na’vi and especially with the Sully children, spending a lot of time with them, so he’s a lot like the “neighbor friend” in that sense. Jake even calls him a “stray cat” and Neytiri freaking hates his guts.
this is the most hypocritical positive review I've ever seen, but good on you for finding something you liked! honestly you sound more comfortable being more positive.
Haven’t seen the video yet. But I’ll be looking out for hypocritical positivity lol
@@CastroStudios1 I am specifically saying a lot of the things he was complaining about with Star Wars was what he was being hypocritical about a bit but it was nice to hear him be positive
@@chanceprine None of the stuff he's complained about in Star Wars is present here. He's made it 100% clear that anything done by the ORIGINAL CREATOR is perfectly within their right. That's one of the reasons why he's consistently defended the Star Wars Prequels with a passion that might have saved the franchise if he'd done it before George Lucas sold it to the shitstains at Disney. His issue is when other people take the work of an original creator and ruin it, which is exactly what happened with Star Wars.
A haven't seen the movies that Avatar has supposedly borrowed some ideas from, I greatly enjoyed watching the first one, can't wait to see part two.
I didn't mind the first one. It didn't blew me away, but it did stuck with me and I still remember the characters. This one was fine too, even if the tropes were telegraphed. Hell, I'm more invested in Avatar now than I am with Disney Star Wars.
Everything from Avatar (2009) is extreme dedication and master artwork.
I love it and respect Cameron's contribution to the movies.
Cant wait to see it! I loved the first and the second looks just as exciting
If you loved the first, you're in for a real treat
I actually adored the section where we just explored our characters learning the way of water; seeing them swim was beautiful and really helped me sink (pun very much intended) into this world's ocean. The action was cool, but smaller moments like this helped establish the setting. This really helped me connect with the characterization and seeing how our characters adapted and developed with this alien environment, even for them.
I don't really care about the story borrowing things from other stories. All stories do that. Star Wars is just the most basic heroes journey told in a unique world. Avatar and this sequel have basic stories in a unique world. Pandora is it's originality. It's direction is it's originality. It's visuals are its originality. And it's always executed well by Cameron.
I usually agree with you, it’s weird that I don’t for once. What do you think about James Cameron himself? He has said some weird stuff recently.
I think hes great and that people are making far too big a deal out of what hes saying
Even if you dont like him separate the art from the artist
i think that people need to respect that cameron created an original ip & his own universe. We need more original movies & new ideas. Every idea comes from something because nothing is new under the sun. cameron is a breathe of fresh air just like maverick
Nice to hear you liked it, I still have some doubts but I'm going to watch it.
I’m excited to see it!
anomalyinc being an avatar fan is absolutely amazing, the movies are literally magnificent and finally someone gets it
miles feels like a retcon since we didnt see any children on that base
My problem with Avatar is the absolute hatred of humanity it has. The movie never addresses anything deep about the humans. For so much of a businessman the expedition was, he never thought about trading with the Na'vi. For so much of a seasoned soldier Quarich was, he never considered that their military resources were limited. They didn't have ammo factories, gun factories, pharmaceuticals factories, tool factories, nothing to replace the tons of bullets, weapons, and machinery that they'd run through even ina successful bombing of the Na'vi. The Na'vi having home tactical advantage is such an understatement to a level no one has ever experienced. Quarich didn't understand it even when he said "Everything in this planet is out to kill you." What did he expect out of bombing the tree of souls? That the Na'vi would just give up? They'd even more ravenously try to execute every single human for the rest of their lives and Quarich, again, simply doesn't have the replacement of soldiers of tools, of guns and ammo, of anything that they'd need for an eternal war against a species that hates his kind with a passion and has nothing to lose.
Avatar didn't even go all the way to make humans actually badass evil imperialist mothereffers that even the audience can hop on and hate.
The movie didn't address the situation on earth. "The earth is dying" is the only explanation we get. You'd think the ship to save the earth would be filled with the best and brightest of humanity to try and make things work, but things just don't, gradually fall apart and the humans are left with the last resort option of going to war for the mineral that'd save the earth. Boom. Better story right there... but that isn't what the ship is filled with.
But there is a line in the movie where the businessman says he's tried offering medicine to the Na'vi and the Na'vi rejects his offer. And my answer to that is... Is that the ONLY thing the Na'vi could need? They could have exchanged guns and technology for mining permissions. No, the Na'vi are happy with their arrows and flying mounts. They could have offered manpower to help the Na'vi with problems against another tribe. No, the Na'vi is completely and absolutely at peace with their surrounding tribes and have no feuds whatsoever. They could have offered farming techniques or other practical knowledge that would still help the Na'vi if they rejected technology. No, because Ewa gives everything to the Na'vi.
That's the last I have to say, on the virtue of being not human and primitive... The Na'vi are perfect... So perfect... That even their God... acts openly in their favor. Nothing up to interpretation, which is what causes horrific religious violence... Nope... Ewa is an actual thing that exists while humans are still trying to figure that out. The movie might as well be saying that humans are so shit that their god just noped out of the earth and went to pandora, and when humans appeared, it helped the Na'vi expel them.
I think i haven't seen anyone of the Avatar haters offer these criticisms. Not even the guy in the video you linked a few days ago had faced them and I even agreed with his defences of the movie cause, apparently, all the criticisms he, and you in this video point out, really are superficial. I hope you read this and tell me what you think about, if I do say so myself, these meaty actual criticisms.
Future movies are supposed to address the fate of Earth and humanity.
I understand your issues. I just found Jesus you might say. I dont believe in this Eywa nonsense. But these Avatar characters believe in Eywa as we should believe in Jesus.
Paganism has been a real problem, keeping many cultures apart. These movies paint fairy tales about natives and their pagan beliefs. Hollywood is run by antichrists. They hate Jesus. Heck, there are porn producers blatantly stating that they hate Christ. So of course they're not going to add or attribute any great Christian values. They have antichrist agendas and it shows when you look at the rainbow programming on Disney+
Jesus was meant to and succeeded in bringing many pagan cultures together under one name and one God. Jesus ended ritual sacrifice, creating a mutual love and respect for our fellow man. For our neighbors. But if you read up on pagan cultures in the Congo, they're still eating their neighbors. Good thing for Jake Sully that Eywa was looking for him to make that kind of sacrifice....
I love watching Cameron's craftsmanship with 3D cinematography. Hes the greatest filmmaker working today. That's the biggest reason why I'm excited to these Avatar movies. I want to see what else Cameron can do.
@@tabaflip I think James Cameron might be a bit of a misanthrope. Honestly, considering he's surrounded by the worst of humanity in Hollywood, I don't really blame him. Knowing that people like Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, Ezra Miller, Kathleen Kennedy, Bob Iger and Amber Heard are allowed to waltz around scott free until the rats decide to throw one or two of them under the bus to protect their own arses must affect a guy's faith in humanity after a while. No wonder George Lucas got the hell out of dodge as soon as he was rich enough to do so. Frankly, Cameron should have followed his and Francis Ford Coppola's examples. He has enough money to fund his movies independently at this point, so he doesn't need to work with the corrupt shitstains in the mainstream movie industry anymore.
I really respect Nomz and agree with a lot of his views on other things but Avatar isn't for me and the reasons here are my surface reasons, based on my perspective of the first movie. Is the new one really that black and white with the humans? I mean, I grew up with deeper sci fi that actually lets you interpret the questions it asks about it's themes.
Like let's use the environmentalism of the first movie. Why are the human fixating on Pandora, a planet they can't naturally breathe on that they have to clone the natives as biological machines to get around and interact? Sure, there's a unobtanium there but that isn't going to fix earth which was the whole point of the first expedition, right? A secure energy crisis caused by climate dystopia back home? Also if they can make an avatar, why don't the humans have advanced technology such as Cybernetic enhancements, or terraforming technology, technologies that are theoretical now.
Another criticism I have is, the humans have a Private Military Corporation full of veteran marines but apart from the scientists and Jake, everyone seems cartoonishly evil and bent on getting this unobtanium in a way that seems deliberate about how it's presented and done, so they use deforestation and military force to get what they want. I can get that, Corporate suits want results and don't care how, but there has to be a better solution.
Another criticism I got is, in a military operation, you need logistics, that gets your troops and tanks ammo. You have an air force of VTOLs and transport units. That sort of thing, another thing I gotta note is Cameron has some real biases against anything military that bows and arrows supposedly can beat armored attack vehicles, mech suits (which for some reason don't liok like they got any armor at all. They're exosuits but don't look equipped, still shouldn't be easy to take down by Na'vi weapons. Jake falling in love with Ney'tiri is fine, but he doesn't even teach the Nav'i basics of how humans operate in military tactics, just the general gist of how marines are would get you somewhere. Their victory disdn't feel earned because no matter how many bows and arrows you got, you're not going to have an easy time against mechanized infantry, vehicles you'd at least need C4 explosives or a rocket launcher to stop, and not one on the Nav'i side even steals human weaponry. The Planet of the Apes movies got this point pretty well, it's a basic part of warfare. When your enemy has bigger and better weapons, you use guerilla warfare to get those better weapons, then ambush your enemy, sabotage. and then attack strategically. I don't excactly know what the Navi weapons are made of, but no wood is going to beat metal armor without at least a grenade on the arrow. Also note how no one in the Human military opposes the corporation?
Ultimately, it's an entertaining movie with a very strong amti-human bias with too little nuance for my tastes, and I say this as someone who liked back in the day, but as a much older adult than the late teen I was, I don't really see it as deeply as I used to after ten years of doing my own writing, learning history, philosophy and stuff. The storyline needs you enjoy the visuals so you miss that it's very black and white with it's moralization themes, which aren't going to reach everyone.
I also have to level a criticism that supposedly anyone slightly criticizing the movie is somehow a hater. I hate that fandom word now, it's a word that deliberately brands "hey, these people are haters, they're just nutjobs with nothing good to say" people into tribalism which isn't true.
I don't hate the movie. I just don't see the movie as hype and well. these past few years I've had a lot of environmentalism shoved into my head by my government and these Just Stop Oil activists blocking streets in the UK, when they d things that are just wrong. It's made me less receptive to Environmentalist themes in my fiction. I want to enjoy a good story, not be subtly lectured on why humans are always these evil destroyers of nature as opposed to being capable of both destroying and saving it.
I might watch the second movie, but James Cameron's recent interviews also made me question his writing as well as some of his ideas in Terminator: Dark Fate.
@@tabaflip You're wrong about something. The RDA actually had automated factories on Hell's Gate which built all the military equipment. It's in the lore that their stuff is made in situ using advanced automated 3D printing tech.
Also Quaritch wasn't expecting the literal planet to fight against him at the end. He only expected Na'vi forces which he mostly strolled over until they were caught offguard by Ewya sending the whole wildlife to fight
I finally watched it and I really enjoyed it.
I really felt the length of the film in the third act, but on the other hand I didn't feel like there was a single pointless scene in it.
Reason people.on the left don't like it: Strong family values, highlighting the importance of a father figure
Reason people on the right don't like it: protecting nature
Us normal people are just left to sit and enjoy 😮
actually alot of the left criticisms are to do with the "white saviour" aspect of the narrative as well
Cameron has gone on record saying they are approaching this from a civil rights standpoint instead of how he intended which is from a historical one
@@anomalyinc3239 yeah, that too. Probably a few reasons on both side. But all bullshit pathetic reasons.
Plenty of movies pushing damaging agendas, this ain't one of them.
You're watching too much youtube. Please escape your alt right rabbit hole before its too late
I feel like the Prequel haters cult has lost the hold on Star Wars and now they've moved on to Avatar. I see the same attitudes where these people keep loudly repeating the same shitty points over and over again as if to convince themselves, no matter how many times you debunk them
I always liked Avatar. I had some issues with it but they were 99% subjective and the 1% can be easily looked past. My issue with this movie was what Cameron said about it. Cure for climate change or toxic masculinity or whatever he said was poison for me. The other thing is the humans got their asses kicked in the last movie so what’s gonna happen in this one? They win? Doubt it even if that’s more realistic (it’s like sharks with lazerbeams on their heads take on orcas).
Love Avatar, not interested in the second one until it’s on TV. 3d is pretty cool though
Avatar The Way of water is an 6/10 objectively. Mostly because. Why, didn’t Jake and neytiri connect all there kids too the tree. Like they did with kitty. So they all can have tree powers. And shit. Plus the spider kid should have been set up in the last movie. Also the Colonel making a clone. Should’ve been set up in the last movie. or at least teased. Other than that I thoroughly enjoyed the movie. My not objective rating is 8/10. My favorite characters are Jake. His father and skills were great to see. In modern day movies. Plus his wife Neytiri helping him to be a bit softer on his kids. Which is good for their improvement. Neteyam was a great. older brother. He will still follow the rules but when his families in trouble he will have to save them. Kiri was good I just wish others in the family have a power.
Spider was really good. I just wish he didn’t save the villain. It makes some sense but you know he’s gonna come back in the next movie the villain of course. Neytiri was ok. I just wish the dislike for Spider was shown more. That would have boosted her character up for me. That’s the objective take. For her but I still enjoyed her. I didn’t like Lo'ak. His character at the end of the movie really improved him to just an OK for me. I wish his mistakes were at least lessened. What I mean by that at least just three. Because it felt like Way too much. But he is a teenager so it makes sense. But I don’t wanna wash that too much. And a high frame rate for me it didn’t really bother at all I really enjoyed it. I play PC games at High frame rates . all the time so it was good. To be honest I wish they kept it at that high frame rate the whole movie. But it’s understandable. For the fight scenes. To slow it down a bit
okay well the first movie was a stand alone that wrapped up all its plot threads, reason being the deal wasnt done for the sequels yet and the scripts hadnt been written only vague outlines
as for Kiri she didn't get her powers from a tree so i have no idea what you're on about there
I hated the original. Not because of the movie itself but because my friend would insist on watching it everytime we hung out. So I ended up watching it 10+ times in a short period and grew to despise it at age 13.
I think the movie was too bloated in characters and story
But I did enjoy the movie and liked the spectacle
I don’t agree that this was better than Top Gun tho
I saw the movie today and I thought it was enjoyable. I liked the kids and the family bond between them and their parents. It was just nice to see a loving family where everybody wants the best for everyone else. There have been so many movies on dysfunctional and abusive dynamics in families in Hollywood that it's just nice to see one where everything is based on love - even the conflicts within the family.
I hope Cameron gets to complete his avatar series because for me they are great escapism.
I don't think the writing is always the best, but it's not that kind of movie. It's it wants to be a fun and emotional ride and people have to be in that mindset when they go to watch it.
I think it's a waste of time to try and talk sense into/bashing the nay sayers. I tried to have a discussion with one earlier and by the end I realized I was probably talking to either a child or and adult with a childish mindset. It was basically a "no you" type of response I got and then I dropped it because it doesn't matter when the person you talk to isn't interested in actually discussing a film but just wants to be right and own you. Whatever. Their cynicism has caused them to miss out on fun experience which is a shame because movies the last few years have been utterly pathetic. There a reason I don't watch movies anymore. I used to watch around a hundred movies a year, no joke.
Avatar is the fourth movie I have watched this year and I probably one of the best ones. I saw Threads (ironically, only 4 days before Russia invaded Ukraine, so that was fun), The Northman (which I didn't like, but I respect), Where the Crawdads Sing (basically super shitty YA love triangle that was marketed as a cool crime thriller) and then Avatar, The Way of Water which was the only movie I say this year that made me feel good. When you only watch four movies a year, you learn to appreciate some good escapism. I don't regret spending money on this film. I have reached the age where I understand that my time is finite and money isn't hanging on trees. I spend my time and money very carefully nowadays. Avatar is 3 hours and 12 minutes long. I expected an easy to follow story with some emotional pay offs and some cool spectacle. I got what I paid for and I got to forget about my worries for 3 hours and 12 minutes.
Happy costumer. Though, if it had been longer I would have peed myself by the end, lol.
This movie was so bad it gave me an appreciation for the original, which I already liked. The original avoided everything I disliked about this movie’s story like the pacing and the young characters.
I wish more people could recognize how good these movies are.
Nah, we have standards :P
@TheAutistWhisperer That's fair. I just wish those standards weren't so draconian. Maybe then there'd be more people who could enjoy a decent movie for what it is instead of feeling the need to tear it down for its faults, or just assume it's bad going in.
@@Revanshard4501 I wasn't a fan of the first film, but I have no issues with people liking it nor it's sequel. I'm glad they do.
@@TheAutistWhisperer I bet you do.. so in the meantime just stick to superhero films, crappy horror films and remakes... fine by me...
Not sure why I should have to recognise the same things that you do. I watched the first movie, and I didn't like it. I had seen Pocahontas before when I was a kid. Didn't really need to see it redone with aliens.
A Xenomorph invasion in the Navi world would be a nice thing. 😆
Hands down the best movie of 2022!
Yeah i loved the part where Aang started bending water to fight off the capitalist pigs and their polution. And the moment Captain Planet showed up and all the water benders screamed "Go Planet" and he defeated Morbius by giving him a bath using the way of water.
It was a no way home level movie.
Yeh, and It made about 420 Avatrillion dollars and sold about 780 Avatrillion tickets on its first week alone.
You do realize this movie is produced by Disney. Disney owns the studio this came out of which is funny for you since you hate Disney. Irony anyone?
I don't like DC either but they gave us "The Batman" and I enjoyed that whats your point?
also Disney owns the distribution rights because they bought Fox but its quite evident from having seen the movie that Disney had practically nothing to do with it since most of it was written and filmed prior to the purchase of Fox
@@anomalyinc3239 I liked the latest Batman movie but I didn’t like everything. Robert should have put some muscle on for the movie. My Dad didn’t like that the Batman movie didn’t have the comic feel that the Tim Burton Batman movies did have. I just want a good movie. I thought that movie was good but the Dark Knight was a better live action Batman movie. I still think Mask of the Phantasm is a great Batman movie too. I am hoping that James Gunn and Peter Sefram can make a good DC Universe. I think they could have made a good Superman movie with Henry Cavill. Just make a movie with him, Shazam and Black Adam but with Shazam showing Superman how to bevth3 hero he is meant to be. James has a different idea with a different actor. I just hope he makes a good movie that I like.
Disney can still make good stuff.
Not sure if I will see it though I am glad to hear you enjoyed it Nomz. As for me, I thought the first Avatar was okay. Visually stunning, but okay. When I think of Avatar, I think Last Airbender (not the movie).
This is the best movie i have ever seen. I was 8 years old when the first movie was realised. This is a masterpice
I wouldn't say I'm a fan of the first Avatar but I definitely enjoyed it at the time and have been optimistic about the sequels. After seeing Avatar 2 tonight, I absolutely enjoyed the shit out of this movie. I was all in. Yeah, the movie drags after a while but it picks up towards the end. Can't wait for more.
I completely agree with everything you’ve said. I’m a massive fan and so I know that no matter it’s faults, I will still love it.
Unfortunately as much as ITCH to watch the spoiler section of this movie, this is the one movie that I actually have to exercise restraint. I caved for Spider-Man: No Way Home, and although that didn’t ruin my experience in the theater I still wish I’d had the strength to pull away from the leaks and spoilers. I’ve been anticipating this movie since seeing this movie for the first time nearly 6 years ago, I’ve CRAVED more of this world. And now, i only know as much as the tv spots have shown me, and it’s taking all my willpower to pause and turn away. Especially since I will be seeing it Saturday. One more day and I can be set free from the waiting. What I have seen of your review just makes me happy, I’ve been getting so much Avatar hate videos show up in my recommends that it’s nice to just see someone cut through the bullshit for once. Us fans have to lift each other up and keep screaming our appreciation for these films if we want this franchise to survive the next decade.
YES ANNOMALY I KNEW YOU HAD GOOD TASTE!!!
Let me just share my thoughts :
Back when AVATAR was released, there were news articles depicting a large number of people feeling depression and suicidal after watching the movie. As someone who felt this depression after seeing the movie for the first time in cinemas, I can tell you that the depression does not stem from the want to be on Pandora, the depression stems from the fact that this Earth IS Pandora.
The depression settles in as more realizations begin to occur. Humanity is allowing itself to become a disease to the planet, all for the sake of material gain. In any movie review of James Cameron’s AVATAR, we are mostly told it is praised for it’s CGI and not for it’s story. Which for the most part, lacked originality.
Comparisons are made to previous stories. Stories such as Ferngully, Pocahontas, and Dances with Wolves. Yet, what astounds me is that while people compare AVATAR to these films, they do not compare it to the events and situations that these films are focused on. Events and situations that are still ongoing to this day.
AVATAR uses symbolism and imagery to portray the atrocities committed by the Corporatocracy.
And, how our ignorance not only allows these atrocities to occur - but, also has halted our evolution.
AVATAR is not only a social commentary on the Extortion of Natural Resources, Exploitation of Indigenous Peoples, or Aboriginal Genocide. It is a simulation of what life can be..
Every claim in my analysis can be researched by anyone and a clear consensus can be reached.
The film not only shows that the planet we are from is the mother of all life, it shows an alternative form of humanity. The Na'Vi are representative of Neohumanism*, the next stage in our evolutionary path. The humans depicted in the film are clearly shown to be from the Western world. Working for Corporations that seek to maximize profits regardless of social or environmental loss. So, what we have here is a film depicting two possible forms of humanity, the old paradigm vs the new paradigm,
I hope my video shows you a new perspective on life or affirms your perspective. Enjoy.
The whales, like unobtanium, are just a mcguffin. I just hope they established by now enought world building to not put in the plot another mcguffin that brings the humans to Pandora. I liked the whole 'earth is dying and humans are desperate' narrative, and imho the whale fluid kinda slows it down a little.
They'll definitely explore it more in the next movie.
Didn’t the blue ppl take on an entire military last movie but this one they struggle with a boat, idk seems odd
1st movie was a different battle, it was an all out war, there were more clans and soldiers, Avatar 2 they were caught off guard and only had one clan to fight with and the fight was a much more personal vendetta confrontation
3D good? avatar 1 good?
okay. i have to respectfully disagree.
i didn't like the original pocahontas, and i sure as shit won't like the blue remake of it.
the effects were the one thing ppl dug about that movie.
this is also how i've fallen for the trap, to watch it. friends told me the effects are amazing. should've been a red flag back then, cause why the hell would nobody even talk about the story? and i'm not kidding, here in switzerland, not one person ever spoke with me about the movies story. everybody was just like "the effects, man".
ppl have been mesmerized by the shiny lights. wish the first movie would release now, so that it would have to fend for the box office, without the 2 crutches it had. the return of 3D (and we all seen what that was worth, aside from making every TV a tad bit more expensive, it made no positiv numbers in the long run) and the tech that was impressive.
in current year, the effects would spell monday at best, cause we've seen it all now, from unbelievably well made CGI, to the worst imaginable.
gonna reserve my judgement for this one if i ever watch it, but as the first one is one of three movies that i've fallen asleep to, in the cinema.
and i feel like i won't put my feet in those waters.
but glad if you liked it, hope you're ready for camerons eradication of testosterone.
that's the actual issue. cameron opened the flood gates for the CGI fest we endured. he is the architect of the woke CGI movie era we had now. even if he may have never really planned the woke part.
whilst he tried to raise the bar, as south park put it so well, he somehow opened up a portal, right into hell.
funniest shit, not even 2 weeks after i've seen the first one, my life started to fall apart in lightspeed.
gonna check that maya calendar, and see if 2009 spelled a blue catastrophe being released on the world.
I think this movie maid like 2.5 billion probably the highest grossing movie of all time now
Sounds like fun. We’ll see how it is this weekend 👍
I’d love to see a video of you reading negative reviews of the Avatar movies online.
I like to keep my breakfast down
@@anomalyinc3239 That’s fair.
I didn't think this movie was gonna live up to the hype!
It was unbelievable! The 3D IMAX blew my mind!
It was like 8K crystal clear 3-D🤯
To hate on Avatar means you have no standard.
This story belongs in the same genre as superhero transformers harry potter star wars jurrssic park etc yet rises above all tge latest of such types. This hands down is the best action blockbuster of the past 10 years
I’m glad you like it because I apparently James Cameron has a plan to make it a 5 movie series
I believe you, thousands wouldn't.
I'd say its a solid 7/10 but I'm definitely more invested in avatar than I am disney star wars, the mcu, and dceu
I don’t believe this world how all the animals just band together no questions asked against the military is just stupid to me. In a world like monster hunter it doesn’t matter that hunters are around if one monster steps on another monsters turf there not gonna be sympathetic there gonna try to kill eachother no matter if there outgunned or not
The planet is basically a hive mind Intelligence who gives them free reign unless there’s a direct threat to its existence.
@@ghostfear2011 I see that feels like something I would hear in Warhammer to be honest
Assuming you're talking about the 1st Avatar
That's because there is a literal biological god that influenced them to do it
And it was setup in the movie
So wait all the animals came together not just the Navi
@@toxicheadshot360 I understand the Navi gimmick I meant by how all the animals without that gimmick just banned together
I liked it but it wasn’t amazing it tried to push new ideas but then went back to formula.
I'm indifferent to Avatar as I don't really care for it. Sure I can name themes I don't like such as my disdain for the "Noble Savage" narrative; but it isn't the only narrative/trope I dislike. My bigger one being having the National Socialists part of some big scheme years after they're defeated is more my pet peeve of stories nowadays.
But glad to hear you enjoyed the movie. And honestly I would rather James Cameron make his passion project; even if I personally don't care for it. But Avatar just isn't my thing, so I'll just let those that do enjoy it alone and have their time. And nice to hear a positive review.
Now if Cameron would not put himself in a bad light, which might sour some people.
As someone who speaks a latin language, Avatar names are very easy to pronounce for me so I always find it funny when someone says it in a way I would have never imagined. 😂
A shame this movie won't be shown in Russian theatres...
Yeah, seeing it on big screen would be cool.
Oh well... * puts on a pirate hat *
@@user-jq6vy4ju6l now go wait in the corner for a month or more
@@alahsiaboi8909 Apparently you haven't realized sanctions doesn't work on Russians...
@@oscarmike1307 well no because sanctions are imposed to hurt russian economy not average russian lives
@@alahsiaboi8909 how are you going to hurt economy without hurting average citizen tho? That's not how it works, mate.
Even my grandmother will see avatar in cinema, thats how much impact this movie has.
I don't think I am as avid a fan as you and I do love the passion. the first movie for me was a classic tale done well. You don't have to be wholly original but if you can tell a story that has been seen before... aand do it well it will be enjoyable. It is why the heroes journey is and has existed for aa long time..... really the only thing I disliked/nitpicked for the movie is... 10+ years waiting for the second movie and then they had to announce it would be another one every year or two. THere is a part of me that wants that idea to fail cause if it is built around stretching out over several movies something that could be told in a trilogy no. If it is something that is going to go like say John Carter where after the third movie the main character changes to the children and then grandchildren... I could go with that.
I though the first avatar was very basic but not bad. The 2nd one blew me out the fckin water. I almost forgot this was a disney movie. I didn't pay for it someone else paid for it😂 but anyway, when it ended I literally shouted wtf. But in a good way with hunger and desire for more. I've never done that with any movie. And idk if they were going for a cliffhanger but to me it felt half the movie ended and another one just begun🤔 in a future movie I'd love to see them go back to earth with some human avatars, or maybe go to other planets.
Edit: 10 months later
Theyre going back to earth for either the 4th or 5th movie. They eventually explore more of the universe. 3 will introduce fire navi.
I was expecting you to rip it shreds and you actually liked it!😅
Why?
@@anomalyinc3239 I just love your rants, so it was a pleasant surprise of “oh, he actually liked it”. I didn’t dislike Avatar, the visuals were fun, saw it in 4DX on New Year’s Eve. But I watched the Banshees of Inisherin with my mum yesterday and we both apologetically admitted to each other that we actually enjoyed that film more, and joked how cheaply made and simple the film was yet we preferred over the blockbuster.
Sorry bro but I just can’t fall in love with avatar the way you do. I enjoyed the first movie when I was a kid it had a lot of potential and an interesting New World. I was hoping they did something, more with the next movie but it just didn’t satisfy me man ,sorry.
Can't wait to watch it
saw it in theaters and loved it. my only real gripes is that the 3d sort of hampered my enjoyment alitte. i am not at all used to 3d so the insane depth within the screen was slightly distracting
I'm curious to see this. Not a fan, but I think the first film is enjoyable.
That being said I find it hilarious that Goncharov has more fics on AO3 than Avatar. Where are all the Avatar fics at?
I watched a pirated version. Really liked it, but have a lot of questions. Who is Kiri's father? Who is Spider's mother? How do they communicate with the whales? How is Spider gonna live with them without oxygen supply and a place to live in?
This movie almost put me to sleep within the first half hour.
I really liked the 1st one even though it had a lot of issues.
This movie felt like it wasn't needed
Here are other complaints about avatar, the dialog is pretty weak, the characters are bland, the story is pretty god damn uninspired(even when I try to exclude the fact that yes it does have a lot of elements from other movies) its not a story that draws me in. It all felt like an excuse for some really good visuals and yes it did bring that. I'm not aggressively against this, your aggressive defence of it I find most annoying and your bias is just so obvious that it kind of invalidates your review. "Avatar 2 is awesome, as long as you love all things Avatar" you do see how this review just tells some of us fence sitters not watch it
i fail to see how telling people that fans of the previous movies will be pleased while fence sitters will likely have a good time but not necessarily be converted to the avatar church is an unreliable review if anything id say that's being realistic and i still thought the original Avatar was the better all round movie which should also be a clear indicator of trying temper peoples expectations especially if they weren't fans of the original in which case i have no idea why they'd wanna see the new one
but then again a lot of Avatar hate is fake as shit so........ im betting most of em went anyway
Good don’t watch then 🤣
Havent seen action and cinematography this good since prob the last john wick. Way too awesome.
James Horner would've been proud.
I feel like avatar2 is like two different films stitched together and made it quite difficult to be a universally enjoyed film. The middle part with the kids learning the way of water is great and really appeal to the work building fans puts a stop to the plot and felt like it is just jammed in. I enjoyed it personally but I would prefer it to be a separate thing and a tighter blockbuster focusing on the conflict. This just made it more bloated for people who expected a typical blockbuster. Still interested to see the sequels and how it develops with the audience reception of this film!
I’m gonna be real with you didn’t see the first Avatar till 2015. It had too much hype in 2009 in my high school. When I first saw it in 2015 I regretted not seeing it in theaters. I liked it a lot actually, and when Twow came out; first day I saw it and LOved it !
I understand all the criticisms of the film but I can still sit down and enjoy it for what it is. Appreciate the work and sense of cinematic experience about an amazing spec evo world and the struggles of the Sully family in this new world that Cameron gave us.
I think thats what helps make it so appealing to many people.
You talked me into NOT seeing this trash. Thank You. You'll laugh you'll cry you'll kiss 30+ bucks Goodbye.
No spoilers but yeah the final act is a little titanicish and the secondary story plot should have been the main plot because it was believable and the main plot should have been secondary but over all great movie
Love your reviews!
Love the original , love the sequel .. I was amazed by how spectacular the movie feels .. it was so refreshing to zone out of the real world and got lost in the world of pandora . I enjoyed when the movie slowed down and and we got to see the under water scenes. The action scenes were amazing and 3 hours felt super short .. I wasn’t ready for it to end
Well I wasn't too impressed by the first one (I saw it once in the cinema). Then again I don't get the vitriol either. At least it's not the same generic mindless Marvel/DCU-crap. At least it is something different (visually).
I'll wait a month or two and watch it with a few mates with a couple beer/vinos in my favo underground cinema. Don't expect much but that doesn't matter.
Then again, don't get the hate towards other youtube creators either (they are usually right on the money)
James Cameron can raise the bar even more at home. This film needs a 4k 3d home edition. I'm done trying to chose the better experience for the film I want.
Funny to hear you beat on critical viewers when your whole channel is based on being very critical :-) and its best to keep the feelings out of critique. You can say you hate that ppl bandwagon on an opinion if that is what you experience. But dont shove things down the throat of critical viewers. Youd get force-fed all your own videos by armies of desenters.
when did i beat on critical viewers exactly? i said bandwagoners theres a difference
@@anomalyinc3239 are we not allowed to dislike Avatar without being a bandwagoner? Does that mean that all you people who made Avatar 1 the highest grossing movie of all time were just bandwagoning? Your dismissal of our criticism can easily be turned against you.
@@jornavyr2459 lol I love the absolute lack of any arguments in these comments just vaguely spewing the word "criticism" or thoroughly debunked bad faith arguments from 10 fuckin years ago
I love these movies and i really enjoy your Avatar videos God bless you.
If u think this movie works u should check out Despot’s review of Avatar
I hated the first movie as a kid, it felt bland and unforgettable. The only memorable thing was the 3d fad wich clearly ended. It did have a tired and played out nobel savage and evil white man myth. A strong emphasis on myth. I may check this out but I doubt it will top Maverick no pun intended. Plus seriously, no I'm not a hater Cameron has made two of my favorite film's. Although, the man is woke he had a hand in terminator genesis.
Ugh well looks like I have to go see it just spent friggin 26 euros wtf happened man in 2005 I could go for 6 my income hasn't quadrupled, u can forget about it reaching 3 billion for this reason
Early vibes🤭
I watched it on a flight and enjoyed it very much
The first Avatar is just an ok movie to me. It's good, maybe even slightly above average but definitely fine. The Way of Water is actually awful. Retarded retcons, BS motivations, nonsensical actions, almost an hour of time wasting filler and terrible characters. I can't see defending this trash heap
The first one looked dumb never saw it and have no desire to see the second one. I’m glad you like it but uhhh yeah I’m going to pass on this franchise
The best performances in the movie are from Sam Worthington and Stephan Lang. Every single time those two were onscreen, especially when they were sharing it, they stole the show and even surpassed legends like Zoe Saldana, Sigourney Weaver and Kate Winslet. Bringing back Miles Quaritch could have very easily backfired but to be honest, I don't think this movie would be anywhere near as good without him. Sam Worthington and Stephan Lang have excellent hero and villain chemistry so whenever they're interacting, even if they aren't sharing the same space, I feel like they hate each other but also have a mutual respect in the way that any true warrior will respect a worthy opponent.
Zoe Saldana did well but didn't have as much screen time as she deserved. The standout moment from her was when Neteyam died and, I won't lie, I cried during that scene. I didn't actually care about Neteyam himself but seeing Neytiri become hysterical over his body was heartbreaking. Then seeing her transition from grief-stricken mother into deadly warrior within the span of just a couple of minutes was chilling. She pulled herself together and, without saying a word, you knew she was out for blood just from the way she carried herself as she stormed to her Ikran.
Sigourney Weaver was a bit shaky as Kiri, which is understandable considering she's in her seventies and playing a teenager. I don't think that's ever been done before, not even in voice acting, and it must have been surreal to have Sam Worthington, who's 27 years younger than she is, calling her "Baby girl". However, the CGI genuinely made her look like a teenage Na'vi and to her credit, Sigourney still has enough physical strength to move like one, which is perhaps most notable when she hops onto her "mum's" incubator tank without any visible effort. My only real issue is some of her line deliveries. Saying dialogue doesn't involve her age, unless all the physical exertion left her so exhausted that she couldn't speak as effortlessly as usual.
Kate Winslet was good but Ronal basically shamed the title of Tsahik, something that was thankfully intentional since Neytiri scornfully said "You are Tsahik!" at one point. Dang, if she had such disgust for Ronal, imagine if Mo'at had been there. They would probably have come to blows due to how drastically different their approaches to being the Na'vi's spiritual leaders were. Speaking of Mo'at, we barely saw her at all and I don't remember her even getting a line, so I hope she gets a bigger role in the next film. In the first Avatar, she managed to be authoritative without ever being outright confrontational like Ronal was and in some ways, it actually made Mo'at come across as the stronger of the two, like she was so confident in her abilities and connection to Eywa that she had no need to compensate by riding into battle whilst pregnant or constantly seeking conflict with her guests.
What does being in a packed theater have to do with the dialogue…
I'm saying it was received well
No one made fun of it people emotion where they were meant to be happy when they were meant to be laughed where they were meant to be laugh
And just overall responded well to it
I’ve never heard Anomaly so hyped for anything, ever lol.
From what I’ve heard it’s cliche and plays on the idea of colonization/conquistador, industrialization and manifest destiny in space in the future. Which that doesn’t mean it’s a bad movie, the first one did the same, played on the idea and history of colonization and the greed and abuse of early private corporations in pre industrialization and industrialization age
I thought the first was good too, I saw it in theaters on mushrooms lol but overtime it’s just gotten kinda boring
decent review, I never understod the disrespect for the first one. I liked it.
Guess I’ll see you guys in a bit
Once I see the film
Avatar fans? This movie is not a franchise. Sadly the movie didn't leave any cultural echo
Avatar 1 was entertaining.
Avatar 2 is entertaining in a different way.
But more than a 7/10 for both is edging on thirsting.
Thirsting for what, is different for everyone, but it is what it is...
It would all be so simple if people just don’t hate everyone got to hate something for some reason 😭
I liked the movie and how it looks, I think it's a good movie but it does have a lot of problems I can see like the middle of the movie is pretty boring for me and nothing happens, I don't like the human kid (spider) because he has little character development over the movie's runtime with him making stupid decisions, and some of the characters are pretty generic but that's just what I think, pls don't be angry at me.
Loved this movie I thought the kids were a little predictable but to say this movie is bad is actual crackhead energy
ngl the new navi reminded me of those realistic mermaids from mermaid: the body found.
other then that this was pretty good