@@russianbubbawallace8681 actually the higher horsepower they have been testing is promising and its allowing the cars to handle better plus drivers are liking the higher horsepower packages
What you want to pay attention to in clips like this in order to determine what these cars are like, is HOW CLOSE they are able to follow each other through the turns before the car behind gets out of shape and has to back off. It looks like this version of the car is slightly less aero dependent than what we've been seeing, but there were a couple times where #18 had to catch the car without being all that close to the bumper of the #2. Right direction, but need to keep pushing 👍
From what I’ve seen and read adding the 670 spacer and smaller spoiler didn’t seem to open up passing, certainly not compared to the test earlier where the drafting sessions had some very competitive slicing (highlighted by the Chase Elliott-Erik Jones double slingshot). I’m puzzled they apparently didn’t test the 670 and big sharkfin with the 8 inch spoiler. Certainly we’re seeing noticeable improvement in passing and that’s a definite positive
The more horsepower the cars get, the more the racing will improve. The change from 550 to 670 in this test has helped so much, but it's not quite enough. Need 700 at the least. Personally I'd still like to see 800 at anything over a mile, 700 or 750 at anything a mile or smaller, and 450ish or whatever it is currently at superspeedways.
@@jonnyspa27 pack racing has nothing to do with the horsepower specifically. It’s the fact that it’s 900 horsepower engines limited down to what it is now. If they were unrestricted engines that had 450 horsepower, they could get somewhat spread out.
Don't change a thing!!!!! For the first time in like 14 years I finally felt like I was watching a Nascar race from the late 90s early 2000s in this one clip I realized why I fell in love with NASCAR
Sadly NASCAR will never go above 800 again. For the better or worse but as a sport, and the dynamics of vehicles in general, if they want a racecar to feel more like what a street car does today the changes they made had to be done, but our racing is unlike anything else in our world. Ovals were made to look like homestead but we got tracks like Charlotte and the cookie cutters, racing at these tracks versus homestead they need some kind of side force so the car can actually turn. This car is going in the right direction but can only add so much power before other problems are put out and give this car more issues
I hope this is the 670 hp package. It looks like it. A little better but the cars are still so neutered. To me with this supposed to be the pinnacle of American auto racing. No reason for the hp to be so low.
It’s possible., would increase braking concerns. Possibly breaking disc rotors calipers. I willing to see how the car pans out. I truly believe the best idea would be to use a factory sealed engine and transmission. Items that are { I know radical idea but STOCK.} Engine would have to be non turbo, and a street option.
With the numbers on the front its hard as hell to tell who anyone is at a glance. I really gotta look hard to know. And i really hope were not drafting at places like charlotte.
The best teams will still figure out the setups and dominate at the end of the day because that is how it has always been. 550, 670, 800hp etc. it don’t matter
Agreed. I'm new to NASCAR but not to auto racing. You see the same thing in WRC, MotoGP, F1, IndyCar, IMSA, etc. The best teams have money to attract top talent, whether it's car design, engineering, drivers, crew chiefs, tire changers...
Is there off-throttle time? That’s pretty much all I care about. Needs margin for error that’s actually in the hands of the driver, not in the hands of those around the driver.
Agree. If there aren't any braking zones or lifting in the corners we are going to see a train of cars going in circles.... kind of like the last few years.
@@DCGKodi yea but that wasn’t really my point. my point was that i think a more powerful race car would make for better races. i get that they have more power than before, but i would like to see a bigger engine still.
I have not watched a race since NASCAR broke every rule there was to let Little A ( not E) in the playoff because " it would be good for racing" I was raised on Pearson and Petty, Yarborough, Waltrip, and the Allisons. Take away the restrictor plates and let the fastest car win!
This is some good racing cars are able to pull up behind a car and pass the only thing that I can say I don't like is that all the colors look exactly the same.
@@brapa1190 most teams just brought a car with their team number on it and the drivers switch seats. For example, Elliott isn’t in the 9, Bowman and Byron are testing. And Jones is driving the 42 today and Ty is driving tomorrow
@@nathanherrold2806 it looks like it could be high down force with it just because when a car got behind someone it seemed like they pushed up a little bit but I'm not exactly sure how that works so I could be wrong
The cars look and sound beautiful. However, that number change is absolutely terrible. It's a change just for the sake of it (and because of sponsors). If they changed back the number, it would be a 10/10.
There isn't enough room on the rear quarter panel for the sponsor so it has to go there. Small changes like that have to be made if you want the cars to look like the actual cars.
The huge downside of this car is the low HP. It definitely makes racing boring. If they only listen to their drivers and the fans, they would’ve upscale the HP and makes racing good.
Does anyone know how much HP the chassis can physically take? I like the 670 testing but it seems like the cars need a bit more maybe 700. Unfortunately, we still see people like Ricky spinning out over literally nothing.. I don’t know fellas maybe this car isn’t as good as it looks.. P.S. Yes I know I mentioned “spinhouse” but you all get the point.
"isn't as good"? no, THAT'S why it's good. they need to DRIVE more now. the car had gotten to the point where it was literally too easy. this is making them slow down and figure everything out again. the cars shouldn't be EASY to drive, that's boring. we needed some wrenches thrown into the mix to make them work again. i just wish they would have also moved the # on the roof, to the hood. that would really drive the whiners insane.
these damn cars sound like a pissed off 300 ford with a cherry bomb.still looking on toyota lots for the 2 door camry with the manual v8... you know the one that matches what they sell....
It's certainly not as bad as last year, and dirty air can never be eliminated when racing. Just gotta give me enough horsepower to be able to pass despite it.
Yeah,. The last Oval test was CRAP....So they went back to Charlotte so they could test under similar conditions. Plus, most of the teams are located near CMS
Wait, who's that in the 31? I saw someone say that might be Justin Haley, but I thought he was driving the 16 this year. Is the 31 going to be the Allmendinger/Hemric/Gragson Kaulig car? Is this conformation of that?
If you're the lead car, you will stay in the lead unless you voluntarily give it up or something happens. Otherwise the cars following will never be able to pass.
Where is the driver skill? They are not using the brakes for the corner. They are not even lifting for the corners. You might as well put a brick on the gas pedal and call it cruise control.
The new cars sound good at least. Nice V8 roar. I'm dreading the day they switch to eracing or iracing or whatever it's called and you can't hear the engines
NASCAR doesn’t apply to me anymore. I always thought super speedway racing was the worst, now they want it on every track. I was hoping they’d go away from that with this car.
So, your idea of an entertaining race is stung out fields with drivers unable to catch the leader. The "R" in NASCAR stands for "racing"....Not run around the track hoping the leader's car has difficulty because in the next 30 to 50 miles I'm going to get lapped"?
@@patersonplankrd no other racing series in the world does what nascar does and everyone else does fine. Meanwhile the most consistent news about nascar is how they’re constantly losing fans.
@@andrewr7982 First, NASCAR is supposedly attempting to get the fans they had to come back... Most importantly, you evaded my question. Now, if you don't choose to engage in the debate, do not reply.
@@patersonplankrd ya I want to see spread out racing passing one car at a time. The best deserves to win the race. I’m not a fan of giant packs where you can’t pass anyone without help and if some one makes mistake half the field gets taken out. Give me what NASCAR had in the early 2000’s, that’s what I want. That’s what all the fans that left want.
@@andrewr7982 I don't want to see pack type racing either. I just want to see fields not strung out with the leader unable to be passed. The cars should be competitive. In close proximity. Im not entertained by events where the teams that hit the setup have the top positions all to themselves. Help..As in being able to use the draft to pass? You betcha.
I'm sorry but I am a die-hard Nascar fan and I'm just sad to see that the integrity of the sport has diminished so much. This is absolutely horrible racing I don't understand what people are looking for when it comes down to racing but it's all about the clock and being able to race against the track. These cars don't do any passing they are all slow as hell and it looks boring. Whoever took control of Nascar has deliberately destroyed what was so great back in 2014
The forward numbers look so incredibly stupid and not symmetrical with the toof numbers; very distracting and makes the cars look goofy! I had to stop watching only after 2 minutes
This gotta be top 5 most positive comments on NASCAR’s channel I’ve seen lmao but in all seriousness, they’re going in the right direction
It's good to see when Austin in the 2 lifted he didn't lose like 5 spots
This is the same thing we saw in the 2019 test. This means nothing
@@russianbubbawallace8681 actually the higher horsepower they have been testing is promising and its allowing the cars to handle better plus drivers are liking the higher horsepower packages
@@yeti868gaming7 they'll still be flat out with the wider tires. This is not racing
@@russianbubbawallace8681 honestly we don't know that yet not until the seasons starts
I was like "aUsTiN dIlloN dRivEs tHe 2??! 😭😂
What you want to pay attention to in clips like this in order to determine what these cars are like, is HOW CLOSE they are able to follow each other through the turns before the car behind gets out of shape and has to back off.
It looks like this version of the car is slightly less aero dependent than what we've been seeing, but there were a couple times where #18 had to catch the car without being all that close to the bumper of the #2.
Right direction, but need to keep pushing 👍
From what I’ve seen and read adding the 670 spacer and smaller spoiler didn’t seem to open up passing, certainly not compared to the test earlier where the drafting sessions had some very competitive slicing (highlighted by the Chase Elliott-Erik Jones double slingshot). I’m puzzled they apparently didn’t test the 670 and big sharkfin with the 8 inch spoiler.
Certainly we’re seeing noticeable improvement in passing and that’s a definite positive
@@STP43FAN1 If you watch the restart vid with the 670 no added side force package the racing was better than what we’ve seen with the 550
@@SlickBillByron he's a 550 guy. Well known 550 supporter.
@@STP43FAN1 Hopefully we find a middle ground 🤝
@@nazcarcup I’m aware
This has helped the racing withdrawals. Can’t wait for the new season to start.
I agree. Can't wait to see the new cars in competition.
F1 was cool
@@94nolo f1 is fake
I love the way these cars sound, a little more aggressive than the previous car.
Anyone else getting serious late 90's/early 2000's vibes pertaining to how these cars sound? I love where this is going
No.
The more horsepower the cars get, the more the racing will improve. The change from 550 to 670 in this test has helped so much, but it's not quite enough. Need 700 at the least. Personally I'd still like to see 800 at anything over a mile, 700 or 750 at anything a mile or smaller, and 450ish or whatever it is currently at superspeedways.
Why not 1000?
If this is 670, its good. The racing is still tight but now the cars are a lil faster and harder to drive
Best teams and drivers are still
Gonna dominate and have the best cars.
450 at a superspeedway? I’d like for the cars to get away from each other more.
@@jonnyspa27 pack racing has nothing to do with the horsepower specifically. It’s the fact that it’s 900 horsepower engines limited down to what it is now. If they were unrestricted engines that had 450 horsepower, they could get somewhat spread out.
I love the sound and looks of thease cars
Don't change a thing!!!!! For the first time in like 14 years I finally felt like I was watching a Nascar race from the late 90s early 2000s in this one clip I realized why I fell in love with NASCAR
could have been the fuzzy camera quality
@@thelarry383 hahaha
@@thelarry383 Did feel like the old camera work. Which, I sometimes miss, honestly
what also made it great, was no commentary.
Seems like they're faster than in the test last month
I think they bumped the HP from 550 to 670
Still not fast enough tho...
Sadly NASCAR will never go above 800 again. For the better or worse but as a sport, and the dynamics of vehicles in general, if they want a racecar to feel more like what a street car does today the changes they made had to be done, but our racing is unlike anything else in our world. Ovals were made to look like homestead but we got tracks like Charlotte and the cookie cutters, racing at these tracks versus homestead they need some kind of side force so the car can actually turn. This car is going in the right direction but can only add so much power before other problems are put out and give this car more issues
@@deweyfilmz8169 If it’s true, it’s already a good news
So cool to see this happening
I hope this is the 670 hp package. It looks like it. A little better but the cars are still so neutered. To me with this supposed to be the pinnacle of American auto racing. No reason for the hp to be so low.
they are testing with the 670 but not in this video
More horsepower, just Yeet the spacer entirely if at all possible
It’s possible., would increase braking concerns. Possibly breaking disc rotors calipers. I willing to see how the car pans out. I truly believe the best idea would be to use a factory sealed engine and transmission. Items that are { I know radical idea but STOCK.} Engine would have to be non turbo, and a street option.
Looks like they still need a little more hp. 725 should do the trick
they was 550 in the video
Thank you for the sharing of the Good Next Gen drafting in Charlotte M S / NASCAR video
Looks Like Things are going well. I see alot of Improvement in the racing. 2022 gonna be awesome
Car numbers need to go back into their proper place
I'm going to have a hard time watching hours of these ridiculous paint schemes. The cars do not look "cool" to me.
First I read DRIFTING and I was like wat de hello is going on here LOL
I did same thing 😂
Great racing
I cant wait to hear them at homestead next year!
I’ll be there for that race can’t wait !!
With the numbers on the front its hard as hell to tell who anyone is at a glance. I really gotta look hard to know. And i really hope were not drafting at places like charlotte.
Jeremy Ray, you have to draft to pass at the 1.5 mile and Daytona talladega tracks.
The best teams will still figure out the setups and dominate at the end of the day because that is how it has always been. 550, 670, 800hp etc. it don’t matter
Agreed. But 2cnd-15th racing doesn't have to suck as bad as it has recently. Big horsepower+tire wear = movement through the field
Agreed. I'm new to NASCAR but not to auto racing. You see the same thing in WRC, MotoGP, F1, IndyCar, IMSA, etc. The best teams have money to attract top talent, whether it's car design, engineering, drivers, crew chiefs, tire changers...
One more inch off the spoiler and will be up to speed. Lol
More like removing the tapered spacer, that will do the job...
U act like the gen 4 cars had no spoilers
It definitely looks like it’s hard to pass but I pray it’s just the drivers not pushing the issue really hard.
I gotta say. Keslowski might not be my favorite driver by any means but the man knows how to draft. he has it down to a science.
Brad is in the #6 car.
Let's gooo more next gen racing
Is there off-throttle time? That’s pretty much all I care about. Needs margin for error that’s actually in the hands of the driver, not in the hands of those around the driver.
no in this video as they had the 550 package. in the live stream before sand barrels got destroyed they was running 670 and some off throttle
Agree. If there aren't any braking zones or lifting in the corners we are going to see a train of cars going in circles.... kind of like the last few years.
there will be once tire wear comes into play
Those engines sound soooo good!
Seriously?
@@juuliusnero5349 They sound more powerful.
They sound like a f#$%^& derby car on 7 cylinders
@@joshpitts7256 Do you mean that in a good or a bad way?
Cause if I'm being honest, I loke the sound. They sound more beefy.
Everyone is asking for more power but I like the idea of the draft don't get as fast as racing but you get some exciting moments for lead changes
agreed, but that is what superspeedways are for. would like to see high horsepower at everything but daytona, dega, and atlanta
@@jacobleblanc2849 did you not see when they took off? Didn't even take half a track to get up to speed in short tracks they'll be fine
@@DCGKodi yea but that wasn’t really my point. my point was that i think a more powerful race car would make for better races. i get that they have more power than before, but i would like to see a bigger engine still.
@@DCGKodi What's really funny is the X Finity cars and the Trucks will be making faster lap times.
Those cars look quick
This is the package! High horsepower please!
I like that look
That is a awesome and cool
I have not watched a race since NASCAR broke every rule there was to let Little A ( not E) in the playoff because " it would be good for racing"
I was raised on Pearson and Petty, Yarborough, Waltrip, and the Allisons. Take away the restrictor plates and let the fastest car win!
So cool, this is the future of *NASCAR* Racing.
This is some good racing cars are able to pull up behind a car and pass the only thing that I can say I don't like is that all the colors look exactly the same.
Well they are testing cars
🤦♂️, the colors... it's testing, colors don't matter right now.
Calm down Liberals, that's not what I ment!
Awesome video keep up the good work
This is reminding me of the iroc days !
It looks like a mini Daytona
This is great, except the number placement, it just looks off
I think that if the teams and sponsors come up with good schemes, they could make the number placement work. The #24 Axalta scheme is a good example.
Placement is horrible. I'm old school so of course I'm not gonna like it. But I'll deal with it if the racing is better.
So weird to see Cindric in the Discount Tire car.
It’s weird to see the rookie stripes on the 2 now
Austin Dillon Just wrecked again 😂
That was Reddick actually. Or maybe I’m wrong lmao.
@@InactiveChannel19272 it was 3 red I saw
@@brapa1190 I saw the 8. Still tho pretty stupid to wreck in testing.
@@brapa1190 most teams just brought a car with their team number on it and the drivers switch seats. For example, Elliott isn’t in the 9, Bowman and Byron are testing. And Jones is driving the 42 today and Ty is driving tomorrow
let’s gooo blank kroger 47!!
Need more off throttle time
47 hoods has bump in it on the right fender
So what are they running?
Is this with the 670 horsepower they were talking about or the 550 like usual?
I believe it is the 670 engine. I am not sure what areo package is being run though.
@@nathanherrold2806 it looks like it could be high down force with it just because when a car got behind someone it seemed like they pushed up a little bit but I'm not exactly sure how that works so I could be wrong
The cars look and sound beautiful.
However, that number change is absolutely terrible. It's a change just for the sake of it (and because of sponsors). If they changed back the number, it would be a 10/10.
Im in the minority for this one but I love them
There isn't enough room on the rear quarter panel for the sponsor so it has to go there. Small changes like that have to be made if you want the cars to look like the actual cars.
Moving the number forward a foot or so doesn't bother me at all.
@@theinsidecradle3339 That's 'cause they chopped the rear of the car, and now it looks like a hatchback...
No yall are just being annoying ass purists. Nascar literally started with that number placement lol learn your sport
Can't wait watch em on rovals especially during heavy rains!
can't wait to see them in the dirt.
The huge downside of this car is the low HP. It definitely makes racing boring. If they only listen to their drivers and the fans, they would’ve upscale the HP and makes racing good.
they testing 670 right now
These new Xfinity Cup cars ain't so bad
I think this is the high horse power high downforce package
nope was 550
Does anyone know how much HP the chassis can physically take? I like the 670 testing but it seems like the cars need a bit more maybe 700. Unfortunately, we still see people like Ricky spinning out over literally nothing.. I don’t know fellas maybe this car isn’t as good as it looks..
P.S.
Yes I know I mentioned “spinhouse” but you all get the point.
Its because the gen 6 had tons of sideforce, also at least Spinhouse didn't actually wreck.
Shouldof kept Preece lol
"isn't as good"? no, THAT'S why it's good. they need to DRIVE more now. the car had gotten to the point where it was literally too easy. this is making them slow down and figure everything out again. the cars shouldn't be EASY to drive, that's boring. we needed some wrenches thrown into the mix to make them work again.
i just wish they would have also moved the # on the roof, to the hood. that would really drive the whiners insane.
these damn cars sound like a pissed off 300 ford with a cherry bomb.still looking on toyota lots for the 2 door camry with the manual v8... you know the one that matches what they sell....
I don't know but am seeing he cars behind still being aero tight
It's certainly not as bad as last year, and dirty air can never be eliminated when racing. Just gotta give me enough horsepower to be able to pass despite it.
You think they are upping the horse power because of dodge potentially joining?
Is there a reason why they’re back in charlotte for more testing didn’t they already do some testing there
Yeah,. The last Oval test was CRAP....So they went back to Charlotte so they could test under similar conditions.
Plus, most of the teams are located near CMS
When does NASCAR plan to install the Next Gen cameras? Hopefully before the 2022 season maybe? No? Too much to ask? Thought so.
Looks like V8 Super Series visits Charlotte
750 would be nice
Wait, who's that in the 31? I saw someone say that might be Justin Haley, but I thought he was driving the 16 this year. Is the 31 going to be the Allmendinger/Hemric/Gragson Kaulig car? Is this conformation of that?
Haley in the 31, the other three in the 16 I do believe.
@@kylewagoner right
If this is the kind of racing that we're going to see in 2022 it's gonna be a great year!
who is in the 31 car?
So we really need atleast 707 horsepower. Atleast as much as a stock Hellcat. I’d like to see it back close to 800
Definitely less aero push off the turns. Much better
who just saw tyler wreck
Hottake for 22 no toyotas in championship 4 all Chevy. Go Chase DI9!!
funny that's not going to happen.. but u can wish it all u like. Like I can wish for the#19 to take the 2022 championship.
It's about time they sent them to driving school.
Are they running 670hp?
if go to live feed yes. this was 550
@@johnhaas2523 in the live feed i think they also have 5-6 inch spoilers
The number placement makes these cars look like land yachts. Horrid.
I really hate the number placement
You sure it was the next-gen practice and not the Austin cindric practice
hey could ya fix the number position after L.A. it looks pretty goofy.
The number postion here to stay get over it
What horsepower are they testing here ?
I think 670
I thought NASCAR was over for this year lol
They're testing.
Anybody else watch this and at first be like ah it’s brad and Matt drafting😂🥲
I even briefly thought "what's with the rookie stripes on Brad's bumper"
I hope Ford finds victory lane more than 7 times this Nascar season!!! Yuuuuuuuuuup
Especially Bad Brad #6
The cars look good but the # placement is horrible. This will go down as a Nascar mistake like the wing
and you'll still watch.
Whose running the 31
Haley
@@UpperGrooveRacing huh I figured kaulig woulda went for 16
@@TwhyLERofficial that's their other car
The numbers moved forward looks stupid af! I'm predicting at least a 5 to 10% decline in viewership this year
Your prediction is stupid asf
@@AAA310 I guess we'll have to wait and see
Looks like you already found something to whine about. 🤣🤣🤣
I'm with you. Ugly car racing is not on my top ten list of things to watch.
If you're the lead car, you will stay in the lead unless you voluntarily give it up or something happens. Otherwise the cars following will never be able to pass.
it was already that way last year in many races.
Who is in the 31?
Justin Haley. The Kaulig stable will be the 16 and 31.
@@RyGuy8989 thats pretty cool
Is drafting less effective now or is it just me...?
👍
The new cars are cool.... The side numbers look stupid though.... I Hate it....
Where is the driver skill? They are not using the brakes for the corner. They are not even lifting for the corners. You might as well put a brick on the gas pedal and call it cruise control.
750 hp will be optimal
I can't tell but it looks like the Toyotas are pretty weak
Don't the back of the cars look boxy and fat?
The new cars sound good at least. Nice V8 roar. I'm dreading the day they switch to eracing or iracing or whatever it's called and you can't hear the engines
ha. and they'll be pumping the recorded sounds from these cars over the PA system.
Hendrick cars are already faster
We need more tandem racing. Those were the good ole days.
Good old days? How old are you? 12?
@@scottawes921 you’re funny man. Thanks for the reply tho.
Brain 🧠 fart 💨 who’s in the 10 car and did they increase the HP
we don't need multi-car packs or drafting at 1.5 milers, @NASCAR
Yes we do. We don't need strung out racing. This is perfect and based on the comments most agree with me.
Looks like they are running a 4 door wheel base. They looked like draft dodgers to me. Ever time they're getting close they backed off.
NASCAR doesn’t apply to me anymore. I always thought super speedway racing was the worst, now they want it on every track. I was hoping they’d go away from that with this car.
So, your idea of an entertaining race is stung out fields with drivers unable to catch the leader.
The "R" in NASCAR stands for "racing"....Not run around the track hoping the leader's car has difficulty because in the next 30 to 50 miles I'm going to get lapped"?
@@patersonplankrd no other racing series in the world does what nascar does and everyone else does fine. Meanwhile the most consistent news about nascar is how they’re constantly losing fans.
@@andrewr7982 First, NASCAR is supposedly attempting to get the fans they had to come back...
Most importantly, you evaded my question.
Now, if you don't choose to engage in the debate, do not reply.
@@patersonplankrd ya I want to see spread out racing passing one car at a time. The best deserves to win the race. I’m not a fan of giant packs where you can’t pass anyone without help and if some one makes mistake half the field gets taken out. Give me what NASCAR had in the early 2000’s, that’s what I want. That’s what all the fans that left want.
@@andrewr7982 I don't want to see pack type racing either.
I just want to see fields not strung out with the leader unable to be passed.
The cars should be competitive. In close proximity.
Im not entertained by events where the teams that hit the setup have the top positions all to themselves.
Help..As in being able to use the draft to pass? You betcha.
I'm sorry but I am a die-hard Nascar fan and I'm just sad to see that the integrity of the sport has diminished so much. This is absolutely horrible racing I don't understand what people are looking for when it comes down to racing but it's all about the clock and being able to race against the track. These cars don't do any passing they are all slow as hell and it looks boring. Whoever took control of Nascar has deliberately destroyed what was so great back in 2014
First lmao
lol. drafting
The forward numbers look so incredibly stupid and not symmetrical with the toof numbers; very distracting and makes the cars look goofy! I had to stop watching only after 2 minutes