it was!! hearing them laugh while telling each other things like "your face looks like a biological car crash" and cursing just because was actually funny lol
@@preciouspetalsxx9825 ikr I really thought I was the only one who really loved this episode even the acting, the visual, the story..it was also one of the most terrifying!
Before, just like what her brother said, she was living in a "fake smile jail-cell". Then, she made a sincere smile when she's actually in a jail cell. What a beautiful episode.
This world really isn't that far from what working in a call center is like now. One customer complaint can get a low wage worker fired whether or not they provided accurate information and did their job in a professional manner or not. It's all about customer satisfaction and customers who are more and more alienated by Capitalism are becoming nearly impossible to satisfy. The US social credit score is coming soon.
No you would be surrounded by people of your "rating" and you all would keep each other at 4.5+ because why not as your vote holds more value than anyone below 4.5
The ending of this episode makes me cry. Here’s two people in jail cells, their lives basically ruined, but the real joy on their faces as they roast each other, freely saying whatever they want, is just beautiful.
They say when you have nothing to lose all that's left is to build yourself up again. A person who has everything will only ever live with the fear of losing it and a person with nothing will only know the desire to have it. Eh probably could've worded it better.
@@WorthlessDeadEndYes, that was the beauty of it. They had nothing left and no reason to play by the stifling rules of that society so they just said what they wanted and both realized how much joy and freedom they felt in that moment.
I love how they practically applied Instagram to the whole episode. They instagramized everything: the buildings, the pastel outfits, the fake behavior and how people don’t care for you if you don’t have as much likes/high ratings. This was done so well.
@Brad Miller We see in the earlier episode, Lacey is in the top on the 4 stars rating class and she's always trying so hard to act as happily fake person with fake laugh, fake smile and fake attitude. But, as soon as her ratings going down, she's started to show her true colors for being rude and curse so much, something people in 4 stars don't like. Meanwhile, look at her brother, he's still being real despite still in 3 stars ratings and he doesn't give a shit to increase his rating like Lacey does. Just playing video game is fine with them. Look at Chester, who's rating is going down, he's finally showing his true nature for being desperate after he broke up with Gordon, I guess? (I forgot what was his problem). The lower your ratings, the more it shows who you really are. I think Naomi will face the same consequences after her wedding.
It's because they remove the eye technology at the end that she can see the dust (imperfection/reality), instead of the happy-filter we see throughout the episode.
Personally i dont think the eye technology stopped her from seeing the dust and filtered them out. She was just focused on the ranking and everything else that she didnt bother recognising the small details, and once the technology was taken away, she had nothing to ditract herself from the dust and smaller happiness
Nosedive is scary to me, because I suffer from social anxiety; it causes me to be really desperate for other people's approval, and makes me struggle with intrusive thoughts that people secretly hate me, but are just to polite to say anything
I may not have social anxietu but girl I feel like this all the time! I really wanna watch this episode because the idea is amazing but it hits so close to home
i guarantee no one hates you and if they do without really knowing you then they don't deserve to be a part of your life. Trust me people are too selfish and only care mostly about themselves or about ppl directly affecting them (not a total stranger). You are gonna have to try to stop this unhealthy way of thinking (which i know is hard to control your thoughts I used to have severe OCD) but it is 100% possible...OCD is constant intrusive thoughts popping into your head that are anxiety inducing...either medication and/or actively practicing positive thinking is the answer. Lexapro and therapy saved my life and i will be DAMNED if i was too scared to be around people because of my intrusive thoughts in my head are telling me otherwise...your mind lies to you at times. YOU GOT THIS!!
@ghost mall The episode does a perfect job of portraying the sort of fake arseholes we deal with every day in society. They're everywhere, and they're so obvious.
Her brother knew who he was. He knew attempting to please the people up above the 4.5 ratings just meant just opening oneself up to humiliation. He rightly pointed out Naomi wasn't good to her in the past, which really should've been all Lacie needed to know seeking her approval was a bad move.
Those writers are smart. They said the put the stories that we like accordingly to the history of movies the scavenge all good/bad messages from modern society
@@noriii exactly! I feel kind of stupid because I’m usually fairly perceptive but I didn’t even really pick up that her weight was hinted at in the episode. I knew her friend was flashy and she was envious but not because of her size. I don’t really know women’s dress sizes so the numbers meant nothing to me
Lol same here. I noticed shes bigger than in her other movies and I thought this was beautiful and natural and those were unhealthy... I didnt get the dress size reference either
Let me give a story of how this kind of rating system can be harmful. My uncle is a an Uber driver. One night one night he went to a bar to pick up a group of women. The women tried to get in his vehicle with open alcohol. My uncle said that he cannot allow them to be in his vehicle because there were highly intoxicated and had open alcohol beverages. They gave him a bad review and one star. Uber the company suspended him for one week until they did" further investigation". Then they could not find anything that could make him guilty. But he lost one week of work for that.
I'm going to add my story as a delivery driver about the star rating system, which by the way, was so bad that some delivery driving apps had to take it off completely. Now I've had times where the low rating was my fault but there are times where it wasn't. One of those times, the customer gave me the wrong address for the hotel they were at. When I addressed the problem with her and Postmates, I solved the issue, delivered to the right address, and gave her the food. What happened afterwards? Well, I got a 1 star rating, even if it was the customer's fault. I was already a couple star points to losing my *job*. You would think that me being the improved and better delivery driver, getting hefty tips would help my rating but it doesn't. Good ratings don't even make a dramatic difference if you're already in the redzone. Thankfully, I switched to another delivery driver app that doesn't have the rating.
@@sinnamonroll2780 wow thanks for sharing it sucks that employees cant dispute a bad rating and the company automatically takes the customer side. The customer is NOT always right.
He is just a stand-in until the AI Software is debugged... And of course, Taxi A.I is peanuts, adapting it for fully automated swarms of killer tanks and drones is the Golden prize. First programers to perfect combat swarm robotics get the military industrial contracts. People helping Uber are working AGAINST humanity... Metal Head DOGG is already here.
Also in the end when the marriage is completed, the groom hugs his “best friend” very enthusiastically, the camera pans over to nay nay where she has a discontented, forced happy look on her face. I believe they’re closeted gays. nay nay is putting this facade of happiness of a perfect relationship while taking advantage of the system. She’s not really happy. She’s just playing the game well.
Also, if you watch the scene when Lacie saw Paul's profile, there was a post of him and his best man was taking selfie after playing golf and the post said, "HOLE IN ONE!"
Nay Nay is def playing the numbers game. She ran simulations to know what rating person should be her best maid. She definitely would not get married to someone below a certain cutoff and maybe even chose her husband based on criteria she would think would help grow her rating.
I respect all of your opinions.Although I will clarify that I said what I said was that the only solace and true happiness and true freedom seen in the episode could only be confined to a bland and dark grey cell.
The end always gave me the impression that they never actually hated eachother, but rather were venting their frustrations with the world. Besides they both look like the couple projected in the new house she wanted to buy.
That ending is so cathartic. It felt like they both built up so much frustration and anger but had to supress it for most of their lives, and they are finally free to lash out. I bet after they stopped yelling they had a well deserved laugh, talked a lot about it, and ended up being a happy couple. People say it is bittersweet, but in that sugarcoated reality, life in that prison seems like a very happy ending.
@@evanmak7837yeah it's both of them realizing that they are not being rated for the first time in their lives so like kids they just start throwing insults at each other for fun.. He even cracks when he finds one of her insults funny..
The truck driver also said that when you finally give up the chase for approval "it's like taking off a tight pair of shoes" and in the final scene, just before she takes off her size 4 dress, she clearly grabs her stomach as if she can't breathe because the dress is too tight.
No, you're not. I think the point of that scene was that we were supposed to feel sorry for him and see just how much the system sucks. So, excellent writing from Black Mirror!
As Corrine said, I think it was just that; to get us to see how broken this system is. Its really just a mob mentality that is fostered in this world, like what Bryce mentions in his video-its a lot like the DeathTo movement. Just in a different way, instead of physical death, its societal death. You are locked out of a good life by everyones "Rating" of you, and kept there. And treated like a pariah, even if you never did anything to get it. Great writing, and in the end a horrifying world to see brought to life at the same time!
fifteen million merits is the opposite of nosedive. in nosedive, she is true to herself even if puts her at the bottom. in 15 million merits, he abandons his will to conquer the system by selling out and becoming the top.
@@cherchehacknostale from 2005 to 2009 or 2010 it was all about the stars, if u look for a really like really old youtuber, he would say things like "dont forget to rate 5 starts if you like " instead of a thumbs up
When she has the lenses (contacts) on, the lighting is rosy and peachy, she sees the world through rose-colored glasses. It's not about what's nice, it's about what looks nice. It's like being transported inside your instagram feed where every picture is run through filters so they look better than what they really are. She takes off the ''glasses'' in jail and sees the world for what it really is
This episode inspired me to miss my friends bridal shower and bachelorette party. This “friend” stood me up for a planned outing and didn’t follow up until a week later saying “they had other plans with a friend and forgot”. This particular incident particularly hurt as I was planning out of state trips to attend their bridal shower and bachelorette. After this incident- I realized that I wouldnt be attending neither and instead spending the money on myself to take trips I’ve always wanted to. Cheers to the Lacies that take the leap to cut out toxic friends.
I wouldn’t say your friend was being toxic more so inconsiderate and or self centered. But then again I don’t know your friend just the context so There’s a 99% chance I’m wrong lol Good for you though for spending your hard earned money on yourself and your own fulfillment.
@@bkimatab Her friend saying she had "other plans and thus forgot" clearly indicates she didn't really care about her in the first place. It was planned thus she knew its happening but chose to not even take the time/effort to set a simple calender reminder. That shows a clear lack of interest. How is she the toxic one? She was stood up and in turn stood her up later. It seems pretty justified. One incident can be enough to see a persons true colours. Why should you forgive that? In our current society you don't get too many chances to see how people truly behave since there is so little dangerous situations/situations where people can show what they are made of. Make those insights count and cut down on shallow friends, who don't actually care about you. A few real friends you know you can count on > many shallow "friends". Heck even a single real friend is easily worth more than a few dozen superficial friends.
@@Hamza.Han38 Honestly I like it this way, I never look at these episodes to know the meaning behind the ending, I just want to feel like i'm talking to someone about my favorite netflix show lmao
@@davidkonevky7372 honestly thats what I do too. I dont understand some little detail or just miss it so these vids are great for that, then I just scrool through the comments for like half an hour XD
The ending is pretty much a symbolism of comparing freedoms.. Which is more free, the one who's out of the cell but can't express oneself, or the one who's in the cell but free to say anything they want?
@@loana1861 What about political leaders? Imagine trying to run a country when you could have thousands if not millions downvoting your score alot of people would have to be excempt for this to be a thing.
In school, I lost a few friends because they realized they could be friends with the cooler kids if they were mean to me too. It sucked. It’s kinda like that here. People don’t wanna help others, because they don’t wanna be a target.
Exactly. Even if you’re hated by the “popular” crowd, the moment you conform and bow down to them and make fun of others just like they do, they show acceptance. That’s how they gain power, they have numbers behind them.. people who are too afraid to be themselves. Sucks that this is experienced in schools.
I'm sorry that happened to you :( it's crazy bc kids at that time think popularity is the most important thing but once they become an adult, popularity never really mattered in high school.
Something that I noticed is that all the ‘service workers’ are mostly black, like the taxi driver, security at lacies work, airport security, airport check in, rental car man and probably more
The antithesis at the end is amazing. Lacie being in stuck in a literal jail cell, yet feeling the most free, something pelican cove, the ‘fake smile jail cell’ she wanted to be in wouldn’t have been able to give her.
I'm autistic and I can't stand it when people are fake to me. I cannot understand their true intentions or what they're trying to get from me. This world of fake people is basically my nightmare, so much so that I actually nearly cried with relief when Lacie encountered the truck driver - one of the few people in that world who manages to act straightforward and genuine, while still being likeable. Such a breath of fresh air. The only way the truck driver could stay so authentic and sincere was to ignore the rating system altogether. And yet she seemed truly happy. The whole rating system is like a collective brain virus causing everyone to act fake and therefore no one is truly happy - because everyone knows that others' niceness is only due to the system - except those who have rejected the system.
Wouldn't feel bad: I think there's a new wave of people slowly coming out who also are sick of some bullshit social etiquette and expectations. Although, there can be extremes, like some of the more radical anti-PC culture. Honesty can also be brutal.
Youre overthinking it, in real life dont be surprised if not everyone is "real" and commits their time to you, if you think like that you'll never make any real connections with people, selfishness is human nature and you're part of it too. Actually talk to people and youll find out people are realer than you think, just not everyone will want to be "your" friend
@@LYNXzTwist That's the whole point. You shouldn't have to be "nice" or kind only to your "friends." Being nice and kind are seen as weakness and the whole society/system works to remind you of this lesson at every turn till you accept it as "normal" and simply resign to it as a fact of life and become part of it. But that's not the whole truth. The society could function productively (and better) the other way around too - where kindness and decency are the "norms." While meanness and affected "toughness" are just exceptions to the rule.
Neither have I, though I've only seen the episode twice. I'll admit, the weight thing does make sense and fits in with the Hollywood beauty standards we all set for ourselves.
@Rachel P OK I thought I was the only one who was shocked that she gained 30 lbs and looks totally. Normal if not still petite. Not super thin, but normal small.
I think the reason why Lacie calls her living situation "a cave" is partly because she is living with her brother. She prefers to live alone for the sake of being an "established and independent" woman, which in turn would give her higher ratings.
Here's something i realized about lacie where she can get a 20% discount if she's above a certain rank. Makes me feel that this is how the rich stay richer
Exactly this. Things become “free” even. The chase Safire reserve card is a credit card with a $550 yearly fee. Just holding this card gives you well over $1000 return with perks. It’s mind boggling to me lol.
yes, and the color looks so instagram-y, making it looks like a satire for me, as it reflects the "fake" life the Nosedive universe were in. Instagram is the place where you can pretty much make everything in your life looks exaggeratedly beautiful, although it is not that pretty irl, hence they use pastel colors on prety much 90% of the episode
It's what made me start Black Mirror. ^^ I had always heard it was depressing and watching the teaser for this episode I was really intrigued as it didn't look like what I was expecting from the show.
Something I haven't heard anyone mention, is that Lacy experiences that moment of freedom looking at... dust. Just dust floating in the air, undesirable, something the pastel world would want to get rid of, dirty, disgusting, inappropriate. Dust becomes almost this amazing, most marvelous thing she's ever seen, and it's something the pastel society will always consider just contamination that needs to be removed.
that's how it works, they are friends for convenience, all of the people in there looked like they just saw themselves on the app. But I guess she would do everything for a high rating smh
It was useless as the bus lady don't care about that Also, she doesn't give 5 stars out of kindness, the bus lady just has nothing to offer her anymore
i agree with you i know the truck lady doesnt care but its a good gesture showing thanks to the nice old lady. if it were me? im gonna rate her 5 star and wreck havoc on the weeding lol 😂😆
Even on random small talks, lacie always rated people. Because her intention wasn't actually "to talk", it was only "to rate". But when she was talking to the truckdriver, she wasn't talking just to rate, they were ACTUALLY talking. That's why she didn't even in think of rating the truckdriver, I believe
Another Black Mirror episode that skirts dangerously close to reality again.. This IS HAPPENING in China right now - their social rating system is exactly this!!
USA Too : e-verify + RealID + CreditCheck + BackgroundCheck. Anything bad and you are denied services, you are Slave class and not treated as a full citizen with full rights. That Is USA Today, no fiction.
@@SeaJay_Oceans Well, at least I can say shit about the government and whatever I want without having to worry someone preventing me from ever leaving the country and getting the most basic of human needs like loan for a house. The U.S. operates on criminal background and financial background: If you've done anything to be taken to jail, of course you're going to find it difficult for anyone to lend you a job, you broke the fucking laws. And you're in charge of your spending, use a debit card, that's what I use and I never got into debt.
Yeah and it was black people fetishised in the real estate sim, locked out of work, enforcing the protocol at the airport, stuck in jail with her, and not at the wedding at all. Kind of like real #Murikkka. This episode was brilliant.
Cr Hu oh man I didn’t even peep that and I’m black! But if I would’ve said something people would’ve called me a cry baby lmao. I def noticed the images in this episode! They def hit it head on!
Digital discrimination is Very Real. People ' of a certain zip code ' are not offered job interviews. Blacks (and whites, etc) in U.S.A. wanting to bet around this digital bigotry can get post office box or street mail drop off address in the ' Good Community ' (Rich side of town). At least then their resume may have a chance to bypass the computerized zip code encoded racism.
I’ve literally only watch like four episodes of black mirror but I’ve watched this episode like 10 times. I hit me soul how life changes for people when their scores drop.
I think the truck driver was an angel. During their conversation, I found myself agreeing alot! Verbally saying aloud, "Yea. Yeah. Yes. Yesssss. Exactly!" LOLOL & At the end when they're both telling eachother off while smiling. That made me smile too 😊👍🏽
@@Deidara85 Wow! You think it's turned to shit? My point was certain things said in the episode was relatable. I think _That's The Point_ . Each episode is engaging, enlightening & eye-opening.
Wow, I totally missed the fact that Naomi probably encouraged Lacie with her eating disorder. She also says at the second video call, that don't add the part where you talk about the disorder, cos it's a bit too much personal info.! 'Thank you for pulling my hair back as I vomited into the crapper'. What great writing. I loved the ending too. She owned up to her body, and as you said shedding her 'XS color pallete' clothing, like how the woman in the truck described it as 'taking off a pair of tight shoes'. Loved this episode. Also great analysis, thank you for this!
Another momment looking towards her eating disorder. When she takes a bite of the cookie. She didn't want to she took two bites that took a lot of deliberation to take that bite. Then she spat them out.
I also think it was pointing out how people take pictures of their food BEFORE eating and post about how wonderful it tastes. She carefully takes a tiny bite out of the cookie, arranges it neatly, posts something about "heavenly coffee", then takes a sip to realize it actually tastes disgusting :-)
I've just watched this episode last week and I realised she actually bit it like that because she wanted to take the perfect bites for the picture. Notice how she bites it carefully and then places it by the coffee for the picture, then when she goes to drink the coffee she actually hates it. That indicates that she was only at the café to buy "good looking food" and take a picture for her feed
I read about China’s Social Credit System, and I think it’s probably worse than Lacie’s world. Under the Chinese SCS it’s not the citizens scoring each other, it’s the government using mined internet data on individuals to monitor their search history, time spent gaming, shopping habits, medical records: and using an algorithm to create someone’s score of ‘trustworthiness’. At least in Lacie’s world it seems like there could be loop holes where you and your circle of friends can just keep upvoting each other.
The Chinese system is horrifying but this episode definitely predicates it. We’re possibly a couple steps away from it ourselves if we keep letting social networking rule our lives.
holy shit I just looked it up and it's JUST as bad as the nosedive episode. Black mirror didn't even have to exaggerate it. Every personal experience becomes a transaction in china, you can't even buy plane or train tickets without a good enough social credit score. I saw a guy donate to charity solely to gain more points. It looks horrible.
Jac Howl / People watch this video and think about how sad and scary it is, then continue to use the cancel hashtag on twitter and bandwagon hate trains.
Quick side note: when Lacie recived the upvotes on the cafe I saw that her laugh was similar to the ones she was practising un the mirror showing us that the "happynes" she was having in that moment was just as fake.
Honestly man, the love you have making the videos rather than just pumping them out half assed will always make you better than those with high numbers
The only time when she showed her true emotion is when she looked away when she saw her husband and his best man doing "chest hug" and when she turned her head after Lacie called him "Jackhole!" In her speech. It is implied her husband might be gay to his best man.
When Lacie and that dude in the prison cell were having a screaming match, I almost teared up. Like who tf tears up while watching black mirror? I do, go figure! 🤷
This is the reality of our time..... Chadwick Boseman died.... people were criticising him for being thin few months ago after he died people feel sorry for him....now people made fun of Elizabeth Olsen and bullied her....and then she had to deactivate her account.... people really shift thier opinion so quickly... without knowing whats the situation.....
And the sad thing is it will NEVER stop, social media apps are taking steps to censor bullying but people are just looking up a dictionary and now finding ways to insults people without using curse words
everything with chadwick was so sad, i remember ppl were being so awful on his picture he had to delete it. he was at his lowest and instead of giving him space and compassion, people criticized and speculated
This is a very special episode for me. Apart from everything you said in the video, I was really surprised by the car scene. The language used in the rented car is czech. So for me, watching it in english, to suddenly hear my native language was kinda shocking. And it was also funny, to understand something the main character didn't and not to be confused by the car demands. My explanation, for the creators to use czech in the episode was that Czechia (Czechoslovakia) is worldwide known for car industry. Especially for Škoda :))))
Size 4 isn't the smallest size in the US, 0 the smallest size. 0-2 is generally considered a size XS and 4-6 is generally considered a size Small. It's still very small, but I thought I would clear that up. Great video!
Yeah the screenshot he used showed the UK system, whereas the episode was referring to the US system. A UK 4 is equivalent to a US 00 (waist size 22-23), whereas a US 4 is a UK 8 (waist size 24-25). Bear in mind that's "official" sizing, in reality the effect of "vanity sizing" means that the actual size of clothing tends to be larger than the label size, to encourage people to buy clothes that make them feel skinnier.
+catsingsit True. I assume he doesn't buy or wear many dresses in the US or UK, so he doesn't understand that while she's definitely not a size 4 - but yes, her friend is setting her up to have an unflattering dress that's too small to zip up - a size 4 is not the smallest dress size by far.
This was the first black mirror episode i saw. And it was a GREAT introduction to Black Mirror. Then I was told "not all the episodes end happy, like this" and my friend was right. This IS one of the happier endings.
I watched striking vipers first 😂 but I gave the other episodes a chance and glad I did cos now it’s my favorite tv show I’ve ever seen. I mean each episode is like its own individual movie but similar themes. It’s funny to picture seeing this one first and being told that it’s one of the happier episodes. So true though!
"everything in their world is so clean and perfect like instagram posts" yes, YES! It was sickening!! At first I couldn't put my finger on it but then I realised I'm looking at a 19 year old's scrapbook
I was so irritated by the fact that whenever her rating went down, it’s what she would’ve needed to get something good (if that makes sense) for example the car one... she could’ve gotten an okay car but then all those people in the airport made her rating so low.
There is one more detail...at the very end the cutaway between these two in adjacent jail cells. They are screaming and their mouths are wide open but at the very very end you can see a crack of a smile as they are screaming and joy in their eyes. They are totally in the visceral moment of joy with each other.
coming back to eating disorders, i think it has a lot more to do with the episode than we think. they feel like an addiction, similarly to how the rating system felt like an addiction to lacey. they’re also both numbers game. i think that when lacey ‘recovered’ from her ed, she just became addicted to something quite similar: the rating system.
The first episode I ever saw from Black Mirror and it's forever my favorite because it's so accurate to some parts of our lives today. And maybe a glimpse into our future....or not, who knows at this point.
This episode is spot on, can’t tell you how many times I’ve commented something and whoever got offended what I said replied to me “you only got 300 followers” it’s a sad world we live on, especially the low level individuals which are most, unfortunately.
If I was her at the airport I just would have asked some of the people behind me to give me a good rating (being friendly and maybe offering a good rating in exchange) to raise the score just a little bit
Yeah but that's the point of the episode. People wouldn't do that. He talked about how Chester was desperate to get a good rating and how Lacie was also desperate at some points, but no one helped them because they didn't have empathy for the lower scored people.
Aya Amirdash people behave differently if they are asked though. You see someone clearly in the rush - do you let them in the line in front of you? Probably not. However, if they come and ask nicely, you probably do.
Anna Jaszczolt Come to LA and you’ll see the reality in interacting with these yuppies. Most likely you’ll hear “why should I let you through when I’ve been standing here longer?” Or some some crap
The scene that got me was when Lacie was practicing being happy in the mirror. Her mirror was practice before putting on that act for the "black mirror" (her phone).
The rating system never made sense to me. Evey vote seems to have huge impact on people's score, but at the same time they're giving each other ratings every 5 seconds. Sure, leaving the exact rules ambiguous is a good move because it would be too complex to figure out how to make this system actually work. Does everyone have one vote per person per day? Per hour? Otherwise why wouldn't everyone just spam 5* ratings to each other?
AKKuura I think it shows how quickly we judge people on first impressions. I do think the rating system was complicated but if you don’t think that much it makes sense
The rating system doesn't actually make sense if you put any real thought into it, and is simply used allegorically in the show. If the benefits to having a high rating were half as ridiculously over the top as they are in this episode, people would immediately form and join large groups who all 5 star each other as often as possible. In order to lower someone's rating below a 5, there would need to be a coordinated attack by another group targeting that individual, or they would have to say or do something publicly on their social media that offends a massive number of people. The result would be that the average person would have a nearly indestructible 5 star rating that could only be altered by a negative campaign launched by a group larger than the sum of the groups that they belong to. Only famous, polarizing figures (controversial celebrities, political leaders) would have ratings lower than 5, because they would be the only ones to receive enough negative ratings to influence their overall score. TL;DR: individual interactions like pissing off an uber driver or holding the door for a stranger would not influence your score at all, because everyone would join large rating groups to offset the significance of these interactions and ensure high ratings.
There would probably be some kind of "fatigue system" not allowing for groups that upvote eachother all the time to raise their scores easily (but it does impact you if people you know suddenly gives you a different score, like her brother, or what happened to the guy at the office). So generally the ratings that strangers give to you are more impactful and important (a good reason to focus on physical appearance, false smiles and giving praise). Also, there's the rings system, so if you have an average score, you won't get near to 5 if you're upvoted by other average users, you'll need votes from high 4s at some point to surpass the cap. The top rated people are the exception, were they are pretty safe as long as they receive high votes by other upper 4s and 5s, their followers, and their workers. And negative votes from average/low rated people won't affect them as much (so they have some protection from raids).
I'm active on Facebook, but my activity isn't centered on trying to get 'likes'. I mostly just post things that are on my mind. A mini-essay on an issue that I've been mulling over, or a one-off observation or some one-liner joke I thought of, or share a video that I find personally interesting, but the things I find interesting don't usually have mass appeal. It's usually going to be a video essay or an article I liked, not a cat video or makeup tutorial. I don't talk about anything extremely personal, I don't share my relationship status or name my employers, I mostly resist the temptation to use it as a venting tool, I don't post my location, tag or poke people, I don't post selfies, inspirational messages or pictures of what I'm eating or things I bought, and only occasionally share memes if it's something I really like. I don't friend co-workers or former classmates or casual acquaintances unless there has been an actual relationship. Consequently, my posts rarely get more than 10 likes, tops. One person on some comment thread actually dismissed the relevance of my opinion because I have no followers, and that was weird and pathetic to me. I'm not trying to attract "followers", what do I need followers for? I'm not fucking Jim Jones.
I literally open the Facebook app like twice a month unless I'm using marketplace because I want to sell some stuff. I don't post very often, but when I do I try to make the post funny and worth seeing or I just try to inform people that I'm still alive and well aha I also suck at responding to people on there because just opening the app or messenger gives me anxiety.
"If you compare yourself to others, you'll never be content because you'll always think someone has more than or something you don't have." - Standing Ovation for this one, Bryce, because this is so true. When I started my blog I would look at other blogs that had large subscribers and instead of that encouraging me to get to that status, it discouraged me. I've learned that when others are going left, I'm going to go right (not political wise), and when others are going right, I'll left. I'm learning to create my status and goals, meet them and then shoot for news one.
Utlimately your blog is your own interest, your own self talk therapy, an open diary for yourself. If someone else benefits from it or likes it, great. If it earns profit, awesome ! But hey, YOU BE YOU. That's what life is all about. Enjoy your free will ! :-)
The ending with her and the other guy in the jail cell insulting each other is the cutest thing
it makes me cry, my favourite episode for sure
A satisfying ending fr
Ikr! I really hope they ended up together after they were released
it was!! hearing them laugh while telling each other things like "your face looks like a biological car crash" and cursing just because was actually funny lol
@@preciouspetalsxx9825 ikr I really thought I was the only one who really loved this episode even the acting, the visual, the story..it was also one of the most terrifying!
Before, just like what her brother said, she was living in a "fake smile jail-cell". Then, she made a sincere smile when she's actually in a jail cell. What a beautiful episode.
Nimses
Woahh
Yeah, nice foreshadowing
This world really isn't that far from what working in a call center is like now. One customer complaint can get a low wage worker fired whether or not they provided accurate information and did their job in a professional manner or not. It's all about customer satisfaction and customers who are more and more alienated by Capitalism are becoming nearly impossible to satisfy. The US social credit score is coming soon.
I feel like being a 4.8 or higher would be forever stressful. Always staying “on” to keep a high rating.
AKA a job in the service industry
No you would be surrounded by people of your "rating" and you all would keep each other at 4.5+ because why not as your vote holds more value than anyone below 4.5
@@fake-PSL Basically its the same mechanic as being rich..
yeah it is because they judge you by your rating and score
@@fake-PSL All it takes is to antagonise the wrong person in said circle and you're done
Even wealthy people can fall
The ending of this episode makes me cry. Here’s two people in jail cells, their lives basically ruined, but the real joy on their faces as they roast each other, freely saying whatever they want, is just beautiful.
They say when you have nothing to lose all that's left is to build yourself up again.
A person who has everything will only ever live with the fear of losing it and a person with nothing will only know the desire to have it.
Eh probably could've worded it better.
I cried too, very emotional in many ways
Is that why they were smiling? That didn't make sense to me.
@@WorthlessDeadEndYes, that was the beauty of it. They had nothing left and no reason to play by the stifling rules of that society so they just said what they wanted and both realized how much joy and freedom they felt in that moment.
@@auntiecreeps1414 But they were in jail 🤔
brilliant analysis! "these two people in their prison cells are more free than the rest of their world." chills....
Chaya Gurkov yes they can talk whatever they wanted to, they do not give a s about ratings anymore
You forgot about woman in truck
Yes
@@Ryuutha she still physically had a rating, even though she didnt care for it, people judged her as soon as they saw her.
Chaya Gurkov I got chills as well too!
This is one of my favourite episodes because our society is not far away from this, and this is the scariest thing.
It's already a reality in China! Check out this super creepy Vice News clip on it. ua-cam.com/video/Dkw15LkZ_Kw/v-deo.html
Sometimes I wonder if a Carrington event would actually be a good thing in the long run.
It's called credit
Yael Rapoport so true!
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I love how they practically applied Instagram to the whole episode. They instagramized everything: the buildings, the pastel outfits, the fake behavior and how people don’t care for you if you don’t have as much likes/high ratings. This was done so well.
Yes!
And here I am still and probably never will have a instagram lol
@@smharyanto4660 Same bro
The fake behaviour was SPOT ON
@@smharyanto4660 you’re not missing anything, trust me.
I can imagine Naomi's rating is going down after her wedding and later she got divorced few months later after discovering her husband is gay.
@Brad Miller We see in the earlier episode, Lacey is in the top on the 4 stars rating class and she's always trying so hard to act as happily fake person with fake laugh, fake smile and fake attitude. But, as soon as her ratings going down, she's started to show her true colors for being rude and curse so much, something people in 4 stars don't like. Meanwhile, look at her brother, he's still being real despite still in 3 stars ratings and he doesn't give a shit to increase his rating like Lacey does. Just playing video game is fine with them. Look at Chester, who's rating is going down, he's finally showing his true nature for being desperate after he broke up with Gordon, I guess? (I forgot what was his problem). The lower your ratings, the more it shows who you really are. I think Naomi will face the same consequences after her wedding.
Yeah there’s no way naomi is safe after that speech.
Let's be honest, no one is safe living in the world like that! I'd rather die than living as a fake person forever!
Lmfao yeah, the marriage looked fake af
Her husband was gay? I guess I missed that part of the episode
It's because they remove the eye technology at the end that she can see the dust (imperfection/reality), instead of the happy-filter we see throughout the episode.
Personally i dont think the eye technology stopped her from seeing the dust and filtered them out. She was just focused on the ranking and everything else that she didnt bother recognising the small details, and once the technology was taken away, she had nothing to ditract herself from the dust and smaller happiness
I saw that
Idk which I'd choose...reality or happiness. It is a challenging question
Gracie Anne funny question
Isn’t happiness also part of reality?
@@reeender6166 Of course it is (:
Without happiness there would be no sadness, there's a balance, yin and yang
Her speech during the wedding killed me. It went from crazy to sad and I remember the emotion in her voice so vividly. It killed me.
shak m it was cringe to me where I couldn’t watch it very unique and weird episode
Natedog109 boi me to lmao
But the emotion in her speech was real, which is what made it good
Her acting was so raw.
And that "don't take my mic, I'm still talking", so funny... 🙂
Nosedive is scary to me, because I suffer from social anxiety; it causes me to be really desperate for other people's approval, and makes me struggle with intrusive thoughts that people secretly hate me, but are just to polite to say anything
Same.
Same!
I may not have social anxietu but girl I feel like this all the time! I really wanna watch this episode because the idea is amazing but it hits so close to home
i guarantee no one hates you and if they do without really knowing you then they don't deserve to be a part of your life. Trust me people are too selfish and only care mostly about themselves or about ppl directly affecting them (not a total stranger). You are gonna have to try to stop this unhealthy way of thinking (which i know is hard to control your thoughts I used to have severe OCD) but it is 100% possible...OCD is constant intrusive thoughts popping into your head that are anxiety inducing...either medication and/or actively practicing positive thinking is the answer. Lexapro and therapy saved my life and i will be DAMNED if i was too scared to be around people because of my intrusive thoughts in my head are telling me otherwise...your mind lies to you at times. YOU GOT THIS!!
Just remember if someone "secretly" hates you then their lack of honesty shows they aren't worth knowing.
I love this episode just because of how awkward every character is except her brother who was one of the only people who felt real
@ghost mall The episode does a perfect job of portraying the sort of fake arseholes we deal with every day in society. They're everywhere, and they're so obvious.
Homie just wanted to game 😂
And truck lady
@@sallyenki4440 yeah thats susan
Her brother knew who he was. He knew attempting to please the people up above the 4.5 ratings just meant just opening oneself up to humiliation. He rightly pointed out Naomi wasn't good to her in the past, which really should've been all Lacie needed to know seeking her approval was a bad move.
Nosedive is probably the most "real" Black Mirror episode.
@Irfan Morshed Ahmad really?
Shut up and dance
Irfan Morshed Ahmad how?
@@viva162 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System
Second Sense yes my favorite one
In the future, people will watch episodes of Black Mirror and consider them to be historical documentaries.
True that
A record of our downfall
Idiocracy is already considered historical documentary 🤣
They will se it as we see simpsons today making jokes predicting the future
Those writers are smart. They said the put the stories that we like accordingly to the history of movies the scavenge all good/bad messages from modern society
I never knew she was outcast for her weight in the nosedive universe ;_; I always thought she had a normal body and really pretty
Me too! That was a weird detail to me. I thought she was pretty skinny, actually.
Exactly, she looks great, but is subtly shamed in this world
I think Bryce Dallas Howard is gorgeous. Maybe even more so when she's a little heavier.
I find this actress incredibly attractive.
That's the point, it is just like today. Women with perfectly normal and sexy bodies feel like beasts because of the fakery of social media.
I'm not even just saying this to be body positive, she is absolutely stunning. I didn't even realize her weight was an issue.
same she just looks average weight (like a healthy weight , not underweight or overweight)
@@noriii exactly! I feel kind of stupid because I’m usually fairly perceptive but I didn’t even really pick up that her weight was hinted at in the episode. I knew her friend was flashy and she was envious but not because of her size. I don’t really know women’s dress sizes so the numbers meant nothing to me
Lol same here. I noticed shes bigger than in her other movies and I thought this was beautiful and natural and those were unhealthy... I didnt get the dress size reference either
She’s just normal. And that’s enough
@@bored_grape yeah me too, her eyes, red hair and cute nose are way prettier
Ironically the best episode that didn’t feature any sex or porn/sex related themes.
Except the charge station employee was watching porn
True. It seems like someone gets screwed in every other episode.
@@lionheart7762 so what lol
No sex/porn in Metalhead
Also Hated In the Nation
Let me give a story of how this kind of rating system can be harmful. My uncle is a an Uber driver. One night one night he went to a bar to pick up a group of women. The women tried to get in his vehicle with open alcohol. My uncle said that he cannot allow them to be in his vehicle because there were highly intoxicated and had open alcohol beverages. They gave him a bad review and one star. Uber the company suspended him for one week until they did" further investigation". Then they could not find anything that could make him guilty. But he lost one week of work for that.
I'm going to add my story as a delivery driver about the star rating system, which by the way, was so bad that some delivery driving apps had to take it off completely. Now I've had times where the low rating was my fault but there are times where it wasn't. One of those times, the customer gave me the wrong address for the hotel they were at. When I addressed the problem with her and Postmates, I solved the issue, delivered to the right address, and gave her the food. What happened afterwards? Well, I got a 1 star rating, even if it was the customer's fault. I was already a couple star points to losing my *job*. You would think that me being the improved and better delivery driver, getting hefty tips would help my rating but it doesn't. Good ratings don't even make a dramatic difference if you're already in the redzone. Thankfully, I switched to another delivery driver app that doesn't have the rating.
@@sinnamonroll2780 wow thanks for sharing it sucks that employees cant dispute a bad rating and the company automatically takes the customer side. The customer is NOT always right.
He should really work for lyft
That sad world today we live in and idk what's next but this gives alot idea about how it's gonna end, I am glad he didn't do anything stupid.
He is just a stand-in until the AI Software is debugged...
And of course, Taxi A.I is peanuts, adapting it for fully automated swarms of killer tanks and drones is the Golden prize.
First programers to perfect combat swarm robotics get the military industrial contracts.
People helping Uber are working AGAINST humanity... Metal Head DOGG is already here.
I choose to believe that Lacy and the man in the cell become friends.
or they could just stay friends
women and men can be friends, it's okay
You need a 4.5 or higher to get married. Anything lower is an illegal gathering
Sam Fisher what did he say?
Lol they looked like they were having fun insulting one another. I think maybe they went on to fuck each other on Wednesday and Christmas after all.
Become friends? Did you miss the part about them wanting to fuck?
Also in the end when the marriage is completed, the groom hugs his “best friend” very enthusiastically, the camera pans over to nay nay where she has a discontented, forced happy look on her face. I believe they’re closeted gays. nay nay is putting this facade of happiness of a perfect relationship while taking advantage of the system. She’s not really happy. She’s just playing the game well.
I thought I'm the only who noticed that.
Also, if you watch the scene when Lacie saw Paul's profile, there was a post of him and his best man was taking selfie after playing golf and the post said, "HOLE IN ONE!"
Nay Nay is def playing the numbers game. She ran simulations to know what rating person should be her best maid. She definitely would not get married to someone below a certain cutoff and maybe even chose her husband based on criteria she would think would help grow her rating.
i was thinking that as well!!
@@rashidm29 same haha
She gained 30 pounds for one episode??? Thats dedication to the extreme.
Christan bale almost starved himself to death for a role
Looked good though.
Actors gain and lose weight all the time for jobs
@@jamesp7509 as well as gaining one hundred pounds for playing Dick Cheney
Did she really? He could be lying. She was way fatter before the episode.
This is truly one of the saddest episodes in the show.
Not really, the ending was more bittersweet.
The ending is very happy like you know, "crazy happiness"
There were other really sad episodes
Iris B not really
I respect all of your opinions.Although I will clarify that I said what I said was that the only solace and true happiness and true freedom seen in the episode could only be confined to a bland and dark grey cell.
When you seek validation in others you become a prisoner to them.
True
“I find my life easier, the lower I keep everyone’s expectations.” -Bill Watterson (via his “Calvin” character).
That’s real
What if I want to make solid friends instead..before lowering my own masks?
Aye...
The end always gave me the impression that they never actually hated eachother, but rather were venting their frustrations with the world. Besides they both look like the couple projected in the new house she wanted to buy.
That ending is so cathartic. It felt like they both built up so much frustration and anger but had to supress it for most of their lives, and they are finally free to lash out.
I bet after they stopped yelling they had a well deserved laugh, talked a lot about it, and ended up being a happy couple.
People say it is bittersweet, but in that sugarcoated reality, life in that prison seems like a very happy ending.
@@evanmak7837yeah it's both of them realizing that they are not being rated for the first time in their lives so like kids they just start throwing insults at each other for fun.. He even cracks when he finds one of her insults funny..
Yea I wonder if they were hinting that they would fall in love or something
Wow, nothing gets past you!
The truck driver also said that when you finally give up the chase for approval "it's like taking off a tight pair of shoes" and in the final scene, just before she takes off her size 4 dress, she clearly grabs her stomach as if she can't breathe because the dress is too tight.
Tori Goeringer ‘Kay
Kraker Heya wtf what? It’s the word “‘kay” too mind blowing to you?
Kraker Heya I dont see it as deep. I see it as possibly overthinking it.
That Girl Reacts then what was the point of ‘Kay?
Mac Loca do you not know what ‘kay means?
Am i the only one who felt really sorry for Chester??😔
No, you're not. I think the point of that scene was that we were supposed to feel sorry for him and see just how much the system sucks. So, excellent writing from Black Mirror!
Corrine Conorino yeah it was very well written
As Corrine said, I think it was just that; to get us to see how broken this system is. Its really just a mob mentality that is fostered in this world, like what Bryce mentions in his video-its a lot like the DeathTo movement. Just in a different way, instead of physical death, its societal death. You are locked out of a good life by everyones "Rating" of you, and kept there. And treated like a pariah, even if you never did anything to get it. Great writing, and in the end a horrifying world to see brought to life at the same time!
Literally everyone did thats the point of the writing?
Angela Megroff shutup, no one asked you to speak stoopid
If this were real, I'd be a -1.00 star
John Eisley Tiu oh dude.. Is be at least a - 39.7
I'd be in a jail cell.
Which we learned is a good thing.
According to the real apps I'm around 4.00
@@dallonpainter2674 wow cool post, thanks for sharing
John Eisley Tiu lmao
I low-key kinda want to see an alternate ending where she get along with everything and get what she wanted..
@@basly1990 brown mirror
@@basly1990 smartest reply that one could come up with....damn I wish I could give you 5 stars
@@naraindassmittal5747 thanks bro
fifteen million merits is the opposite of nosedive. in nosedive, she is true to herself even if puts her at the bottom. in 15 million merits, he abandons his will to conquer the system by selling out and becoming the top.
I think we already saw that alternate ending by looking at Naomi tho
Remember when UA-cam actually had a five star system though?
Simpler times
@@BryceEdwardBrown How is that simpler? The rating system is simpler.
Wait forreal?
Whaaaaaaaaat ? I've been on UA-cam for 10 years or even more when was it
@@cherchehacknostale from 2005 to 2009 or 2010 it was all about the stars, if u look for a really like really old youtuber, he would say things like "dont forget to rate 5 starts if you like " instead of a thumbs up
this is one of the best episodes of Black Mirror. I'm giving this 5-star.
And here it is just as the Episode showed lol
@@anhbayar11 That's a whoosh if I've ever seen one
😂😂😂
@@topnug7626 i don't give a f*ck.
honestly i found it pretty shallow - it's like base level observations of social media, idk
When she has the lenses (contacts) on, the lighting is rosy and peachy, she sees the world through rose-colored glasses. It's not about what's nice, it's about what looks nice. It's like being transported inside your instagram feed where every picture is run through filters so they look better than what they really are. She takes off the ''glasses'' in jail and sees the world for what it really is
I'd give you a five star for this analogy xD
Exactly!
@Nonaya Bidness oh no what will I ever do
I’m not
This episode inspired me to miss my friends bridal shower and bachelorette party. This “friend” stood me up for a planned outing and didn’t follow up until a week later saying “they had other plans with a friend and forgot”. This particular incident particularly hurt as I was planning out of state trips to attend their bridal shower and bachelorette. After this incident- I realized that I wouldnt be attending neither and instead spending the money on myself to take trips I’ve always wanted to. Cheers to the Lacies that take the leap to cut out toxic friends.
I wouldn’t say your friend was being toxic more so inconsiderate and or self centered. But then again I don’t know your friend just the context so There’s a 99% chance I’m wrong lol
Good for you though for spending your hard earned money on yourself and your own fulfillment.
It was just one incident tho. If that one incident outweighs other times she was a good friend, than she is not thr toxic one.
Narccistic personality disorder is a hell of a drug.
@@bkimatab Her friend saying she had "other plans and thus forgot" clearly indicates she didn't really care about her in the first place. It was planned thus she knew its happening but chose to not even take the time/effort to set a simple calender reminder. That shows a clear lack of interest. How is she the toxic one? She was stood up and in turn stood her up later. It seems pretty justified.
One incident can be enough to see a persons true colours. Why should you forgive that? In our current society you don't get too many chances to see how people truly behave since there is so little dangerous situations/situations where people can show what they are made of. Make those insights count and cut down on shallow friends, who don't actually care about you. A few real friends you know you can count on > many shallow "friends". Heck even a single real friend is easily worth more than a few dozen superficial friends.
Says he'll explain the ending, explains entire freaking episode
if you dont understand the episode, you wont understand the ending. tho I gotta say he should indeed change the title cuz its misleading
@@Hamza.Han38 Honestly I like it this way, I never look at these episodes to know the meaning behind the ending, I just want to feel like i'm talking to someone about my favorite netflix show lmao
@@davidkonevky7372 honestly thats what I do too. I dont understand some little detail or just miss it so these vids are great for that, then I just scrool through the comments for like half an hour XD
hated it, I already watch the episode, he could save us 14 minutes
The ending is pretty much a symbolism of comparing freedoms.. Which is more free, the one who's out of the cell but can't express oneself, or the one who's in the cell but free to say anything they want?
This episode stressed me out
Omg me too
Yeah it was like watching a train wreck. You want to look away but you just can't stop watching
Right, it made me nauseous and filled with anxiety.😭😞😂
BRUH SAME THO!!! 🥵🥵🥵😤😩😩😩...
I could not stand the way they talked
imagine being a teacher in that life
Students: *fail test*
Students to teacher: I'm about to send your rating to the shadow realm.
@@bman228899 *skadooosh*
They'd probably be a law against children using ratings till they come of agem
@@captainjacksparrow1518 good point, itd be disaster otherwise
@@loana1861 What about political leaders? Imagine trying to run a country when you could have thousands if not millions downvoting your score alot of people would have to be excempt for this to be a thing.
In school, I lost a few friends because they realized they could be friends with the cooler kids if they were mean to me too. It sucked. It’s kinda like that here. People don’t wanna help others, because they don’t wanna be a target.
Exactly. Even if you’re hated by the “popular” crowd, the moment you conform and bow down to them and make fun of others just like they do, they show acceptance. That’s how they gain power, they have numbers behind them.. people who are too afraid to be themselves. Sucks that this is experienced in schools.
I'm sorry that happened to you :( it's crazy bc kids at that time think popularity is the most important thing but once they become an adult, popularity never really mattered in high school.
thats most people, i was friends with anyone and if i saw bullying im stepping in
Something that I noticed is that all the ‘service workers’ are mostly black, like the taxi driver, security at lacies work, airport security, airport check in, rental car man and probably more
Y
Y
.......
And I also didnt really see black people at the wedding...
@Final Incept
Whos Tamara again?
The antithesis at the end is amazing. Lacie being in stuck in a literal jail cell, yet feeling the most free, something pelican cove, the ‘fake smile jail cell’ she wanted to be in wouldn’t have been able to give her.
hi
the part where lacie and the guy in the other cell started yelling at each other was weirdly wholesome
That's the only scene where humans were natural.
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I've just started season 3, but this episode is the only one so far that actually left me smiling instead of... well, black mirror-y 🙊
What happened after that?
@@stupidumbasshithead5715 Lacie bought a truck and lived happily ever after.
The fact that this is slowly becoming a lot more real then it is is flat out horrifying
This episode actually made me cry, I had an existential crisis for like an hour
Black Mirror tends to give me existential crises period lol. They really make you think.
ugh you cried?
still having one rn
But what made you cry exactly?
hey everyone watching her life fall apart just really freaked me out.
Black Mirror must be popular with the Chinese government.
FACTSSSS
Omg YASS!!!
It’s their main source of inspiration
Udon Sei OOOOO
is that even allowed there? They dont have facebook, google etc
I'm autistic and I can't stand it when people are fake to me. I cannot understand their true intentions or what they're trying to get from me. This world of fake people is basically my nightmare, so much so that I actually nearly cried with relief when Lacie encountered the truck driver - one of the few people in that world who manages to act straightforward and genuine, while still being likeable. Such a breath of fresh air.
The only way the truck driver could stay so authentic and sincere was to ignore the rating system altogether. And yet she seemed truly happy. The whole rating system is like a collective brain virus causing everyone to act fake and therefore no one is truly happy - because everyone knows that others' niceness is only due to the system - except those who have rejected the system.
Wouldn't feel bad: I think there's a new wave of people slowly coming out who also are sick of some bullshit social etiquette and expectations. Although, there can be extremes, like some of the more radical anti-PC culture. Honesty can also be brutal.
I pretty much replied with the same thing, before I saw this comment. That truck driver was like a breath of fresh air.
Youre overthinking it, in real life dont be surprised if not everyone is "real" and commits their time to you, if you think like that you'll never make any real connections with people, selfishness is human nature and you're part of it too. Actually talk to people and youll find out people are realer than you think, just not everyone will want to be "your" friend
@@LYNXzTwist That's the whole point. You shouldn't have to be "nice" or kind only to your "friends." Being nice and kind are seen as weakness and the whole society/system works to remind you of this lesson at every turn till you accept it as "normal" and simply resign to it as a fact of life and become part of it. But that's not the whole truth. The society could function productively (and better) the other way around too - where kindness and decency are the "norms." While meanness and affected "toughness" are just exceptions to the rule.
gerard That’s true to some extent too, though if both sides are transparent, it’s usually easy to tell how compatible you are.
"These two people are more free in jail cells then the rest of their world." Damn
This is my favorite black mirror episode. It was so relatable to what social media can do your mind.
🤙🏽: 📱★ ★ ★ ★ ½ ... oh wait
Hannah keep yourself away from these things, I want you to be human, a lovable one ❤️
go outside lol
Wow i never noticed the subtle hints about the weight and I’ve seen the episode like 3 times. I love this channel
Neither have I, though I've only seen the episode twice. I'll admit, the weight thing does make sense and fits in with the Hollywood beauty standards we all set for ourselves.
Honestly I want going to watch his because I thought I knew everything. But this was really good!
Kinda guessed it when she spit back out the cookie she took a bite off of and confirmed when her face fell when her friend said she got Lacy a size 4
@Rachel P OK I thought I was the only one who was shocked that she gained 30 lbs and looks totally. Normal if not still petite. Not super thin, but normal small.
She is even prettier than naomi
Ikr and looks less bitchy
Lol soon as i read that comment i knew it was said by a chick. 😂😂😂
@@Brandon-tk2rw it's true tho
And she's almost 40, I thought she was atleast 25
@I'm No Furry, But Dolphins Turn Me On. that's not even a option it's mandatory
I think the reason why Lacie calls her living situation "a cave" is partly because she is living with her brother. She prefers to live alone for the sake of being an "established and independent" woman, which in turn would give her higher ratings.
Here's something i realized about lacie where she can get a 20% discount if she's above a certain rank. Makes me feel that this is how the rich stay richer
Exactly this. Things become “free” even. The chase Safire reserve card is a credit card with a $550 yearly fee. Just holding this card gives you well over $1000 return with perks. It’s mind boggling to me lol.
@@minismalls3096 That's coz it is, people are more willing to give money to those who don't need it, this includes banks.
Yup, the richer you are, the lower the interest rates you pay
Exactly, people want your money so bad they'll give you free shit hoping you'll spend more. Credit scores also play a part in this
it's called credit score and yeah you do get discounts and even more credit if your score is high
The pastel colors are so beautiful
I like pastel too but this is like more preppy version of the edward scissorhands aesthetic. They all look like corporate barbies
yes, and the color looks so instagram-y, making it looks like a satire for me, as it reflects the "fake" life the Nosedive universe were in. Instagram is the place where you can pretty much make everything in your life looks exaggeratedly beautiful, although it is not that pretty irl, hence they use pastel colors on prety much 90% of the episode
agreed
It's what made me start Black Mirror. ^^
I had always heard it was depressing and watching the teaser for this episode I was really intrigued as it didn't look like what I was expecting from the show.
Nichole BJD I think it makes the episode even creepier.
The grey of the prison was the most calming color of the episode
Right, the bright colors and everything else including people feels so artificial and fake
Something I haven't heard anyone mention, is that Lacy experiences that moment of freedom looking at... dust. Just dust floating in the air, undesirable, something the pastel world would want to get rid of, dirty, disgusting, inappropriate. Dust becomes almost this amazing, most marvelous thing she's ever seen, and it's something the pastel society will always consider just contamination that needs to be removed.
I would love to see a full show from this episode. All the shows on Black mirror have the potential to be their own stand alone series.
Yea!!!
Nah, the waldo episode sucks fr
But the beauty of it is they don't have to stretch things out. There are no time wasters
Especially fifth millennials and metal head
@@rikus6201 the ending was depressing
You made these explaining vids so clear and good five stars
Blop Gvb oh yeah
Yeah he explains it so much better than Foundflix who only tells the story but doesn't actually explain it most of the time lately
Oh yeah yeah
4 stars cause he mispronounced ka-zek
oh yeah no
I bet those, "quality people" are total strangers and know nothing about naomi
that's how it works, they are friends for convenience, all of the people in there looked like they just saw themselves on the app. But I guess she would do everything for a high rating smh
@@davidkonevky7372 yep
Looked like clones / robots
The funny thing is that she forgot to rate the lady in the bus who helped her to where she's headed. Or have I missed it?
It was useless as the bus lady don't care about that
Also, she doesn't give 5 stars out of kindness, the bus lady just has nothing to offer her anymore
Ah yes. That was her transition point. Thank you.
@Brad Miller aaaah, I was talking about the truck driver ahaha, slrry
i agree with you i know the truck lady doesnt care but its a good gesture showing thanks to the nice old lady. if it were me? im gonna rate her 5 star and wreck havoc on the weeding lol 😂😆
Even on random small talks, lacie always rated people. Because her intention wasn't actually "to talk", it was only "to rate". But when she was talking to the truckdriver, she wasn't talking just to rate, they were ACTUALLY talking. That's why she didn't even in think of rating the truckdriver, I believe
Another Black Mirror episode that skirts dangerously close to reality again..
This IS HAPPENING in China right now - their social rating system is exactly this!!
fr?
@@thefatbat2580 fr ? fr ?
Tom Walter What exactly is happening in China that’s like this black mirror episode? Do they actually have this rating system or what?
USA Too :
e-verify + RealID + CreditCheck + BackgroundCheck.
Anything bad and you are denied services,
you are Slave class and not treated as a full citizen with full rights.
That Is USA Today, no fiction.
@@SeaJay_Oceans Well, at least I can say shit about the government and whatever I want without having to worry someone preventing me from ever leaving the country and getting the most basic of human needs like loan for a house. The U.S. operates on criminal background and financial background: If you've done anything to be taken to jail, of course you're going to find it difficult for anyone to lend you a job, you broke the fucking laws. And you're in charge of your spending, use a debit card, that's what I use and I never got into debt.
All of the quality people were frikkin blondes but poor Lacy was a ginger. So petty 😂
Yeah and it was black people fetishised in the real estate sim, locked out of work, enforcing the protocol at the airport, stuck in jail with her, and not at the wedding at all.
Kind of like real #Murikkka. This episode was brilliant.
Cr Hu oh man I didn’t even peep that and I’m black! But if I would’ve said something people would’ve called me a cry baby lmao. I def noticed the images in this episode! They def hit it head on!
@@crhu319 you forgot taxi driver lol.
Digital discrimination is Very Real.
People ' of a certain zip code ' are not offered job interviews.
Blacks (and whites, etc) in U.S.A. wanting to bet around this digital bigotry can get post office box or street mail drop off address in the ' Good Community ' (Rich side of town).
At least then their resume may have a chance to bypass the computerized zip code encoded racism.
SeaJay Oceans do you actually have a job?
Oh my god this is already happening. Those poor Uber drivers.
@@BryceEdwardBrown yes! I was just watching a video about the technocracy in China. It's crazy.
@@reneepeters5051 oh shit
@B I shut up dickhead
@B I delete that you bitch
B I stfu
I’ve literally only watch like four episodes of black mirror but I’ve watched this episode like 10 times. I hit me soul how life changes for people when their scores drop.
I think the truck driver was an angel. During their conversation, I found myself agreeing alot! Verbally saying aloud, "Yea. Yeah. Yes. Yesssss. Exactly!" LOLOL & At the end when they're both telling eachother off while smiling. That made me smile too 😊👍🏽
The fact that you're agreeing with someone in Black Mirror really says what absolute shit the show has turned into.
@@Deidara85 Wow! You think it's turned to shit? My point was certain things said in the episode was relatable. I think _That's The Point_ . Each episode is engaging, enlightening & eye-opening.
Dudelicious calm the fuck down
Dudelicious were u not listening..? it literally said charlie wanted this episode to be like a dark comedy. not a whole depression festival
@@Deidara85 you're comment being this negative represents you missing the point of this episode and being an example of it.
Netflix: *Black Mirror: Nosedive*
China: "Hold my beer"
China needs to understand that black mirror isn't promoting these ideas 😂
China is behind in society. They are basicly going through what America went through in the 1800's.
You watch vice huh
lol
Or China is really ahead of the game and they are at year 2030. Not saying it's a good thing tho.
Wow, I totally missed the fact that Naomi probably encouraged Lacie with her eating disorder.
She also says at the second video call, that don't add the part where you talk about the disorder, cos it's a bit too much personal info.!
'Thank you for pulling my hair back as I vomited into the crapper'.
What great writing. I loved the ending too. She owned up to her body, and as you said shedding her 'XS color pallete' clothing, like how the woman in the truck described it as 'taking off a pair of tight shoes'.
Loved this episode.
Also great analysis, thank you for this!
Glad to hear, awesome to know that I could help add some clarity to that!
I quit social media many many years ago and this episode made me remember why I don’t miss it.
Another momment looking towards her eating disorder. When she takes a bite of the cookie. She didn't want to she took two bites that took a lot of deliberation to take that bite. Then she spat them out.
I also think it was pointing out how people take pictures of their food BEFORE eating and post about how wonderful it tastes. She carefully takes a tiny bite out of the cookie, arranges it neatly, posts something about "heavenly coffee", then takes a sip to realize it actually tastes disgusting :-)
I've just watched this episode last week and I realised she actually bit it like that because she wanted to take the perfect bites for the picture. Notice how she bites it carefully and then places it by the coffee for the picture, then when she goes to drink the coffee she actually hates it. That indicates that she was only at the café to buy "good looking food" and take a picture for her feed
I read about China’s Social Credit System, and I think it’s probably worse than Lacie’s world. Under the Chinese SCS it’s not the citizens scoring each other, it’s the government using mined internet data on individuals to monitor their search history, time spent gaming, shopping habits, medical records: and using an algorithm to create someone’s score of ‘trustworthiness’. At least in Lacie’s world it seems like there could be loop holes where you and your circle of friends can just keep upvoting each other.
The Chinese system is horrifying but this episode definitely predicates it. We’re possibly a couple steps away from it ourselves if we keep letting social networking rule our lives.
holy shit I just looked it up and it's JUST as bad as the nosedive episode. Black mirror didn't even have to exaggerate it. Every personal experience becomes a transaction in china, you can't even buy plane or train tickets without a good enough social credit score. I saw a guy donate to charity solely to gain more points. It looks horrible.
china is more close to nosedive than anything
this is horrifying
Jet Kismet
Would children have ratings?
The Chinese government is crazy!
I totally agree with you! So true
Anyone noticed the color theme that is used to show happiness in this episode?
Ya . Scary
Well yeah he pointed it out
It's scary how this is actually the reality. Most people are concerned about the likes in social media.
It’s also such a play on irony in the last scene when they finally find peace...in prison.
Talya C. Honestly that prison bed looked comfy af
This a scary world that we might be heading too.
I wouldn't say scary it's more like a really shitty world
Jac Howl / People watch this video and think about how sad and scary it is, then continue to use the cancel hashtag on twitter and bandwagon hate trains.
U heard a thing called reddit?
Jac Howl you can always just stay out of it, and refuse to join it
Jac Howl Heard about Uber?
Quick side note: when Lacie recived the upvotes on the cafe I saw that her laugh was similar to the ones she was practising un the mirror showing us that the "happynes" she was having in that moment was just as fake.
Honestly man, the love you have making the videos rather than just pumping them out half assed will always make you better than those with high numbers
This might be weird but I’m scared of Naomi, something about her face. Her smile reminds like if Botox was a person
Humans can naturally detect a fake smile
She was being fake but when she's vulnerable the few times, she's actually pretty sweet.
She’s beautiful to me, maybe she just looked scary to you when she was acting fake
The only time when she showed her true emotion is when she looked away when she saw her husband and his best man doing "chest hug" and when she turned her head after Lacie called him "Jackhole!" In her speech. It is implied her husband might be gay to his best man.
When Lacie and that dude in the prison cell were having a screaming match, I almost teared up. Like who tf tears up while watching black mirror? I do, go figure! 🤷
I cried at 15 million merits.
@@aliceatmidnight7060 same, and at the same time I had a mini existential crisis :'(
Me too
@KHABIB TIME!!! I never cried on any show, but that's kind of rude to say to other people
KHABIB TIME!!! I’m a guy and cried to bitch
This is the reality of our time..... Chadwick Boseman died.... people were criticising him for being thin few months ago after he died people feel sorry for him....now people made fun of Elizabeth Olsen and bullied her....and then she had to deactivate her account.... people really shift thier opinion so quickly... without knowing whats the situation.....
And the sad thing is it will NEVER stop, social media apps are taking steps to censor bullying but people are just looking up a dictionary and now finding ways to insults people without using curse words
everything with chadwick was so sad, i remember ppl were being so awful on his picture he had to delete it. he was at his lowest and instead of giving him space and compassion, people criticized and speculated
This is a very special episode for me. Apart from everything you said in the video, I was really surprised by the car scene. The language used in the rented car is czech. So for me, watching it in english, to suddenly hear my native language was kinda shocking. And it was also funny, to understand something the main character didn't and not to be confused by the car demands. My explanation, for the creators to use czech in the episode was that Czechia (Czechoslovakia) is worldwide known for car industry. Especially for Škoda :))))
Size 4 isn't the smallest size in the US, 0 the smallest size. 0-2 is generally considered a size XS and 4-6 is generally considered a size Small. It's still very small, but I thought I would clear that up. Great video!
Yeah the screenshot he used showed the UK system, whereas the episode was referring to the US system. A UK 4 is equivalent to a US 00 (waist size 22-23), whereas a US 4 is a UK 8 (waist size 24-25).
Bear in mind that's "official" sizing, in reality the effect of "vanity sizing" means that the actual size of clothing tends to be larger than the label size, to encourage people to buy clothes that make them feel skinnier.
We even have 00 and other smaller ones 😒
Yeah. True. Size 4 in the UK is the smallest, it's equal to 0 in USA
True, I’m a 4- 6 and I’m a small, not an xs, 0-2 is consider XS
+catsingsit True. I assume he doesn't buy or wear many dresses in the US or UK, so he doesn't understand that while she's definitely not a size 4 - but yes, her friend is setting her up to have an unflattering dress that's too small to zip up - a size 4 is not the smallest dress size by far.
This was the first black mirror episode i saw. And it was a GREAT introduction to Black Mirror. Then I was told "not all the episodes end happy, like this" and my friend was right. This IS one of the happier endings.
I watched striking vipers first 😂 but I gave the other episodes a chance and glad I did cos now it’s my favorite tv show I’ve ever seen. I mean each episode is like its own individual movie but similar themes. It’s funny to picture seeing this one first and being told that it’s one of the happier episodes. So true though!
@@DezSarkMe too because my gf showed it to me.. watched one or 2 others but now watching from the start.
@@DezSarkI couldn't finish striking vipers, i know BM has a lot of cheating scenes but Jesus that one I couldn't sit through.
"everything in their world is so clean and perfect like instagram posts" yes, YES! It was sickening!! At first I couldn't put my finger on it but then I realised I'm looking at a 19 year old's scrapbook
I uninstall all my social media accounts because of this episode, now my life has never so free, I never realize all the time that I have
I was so irritated by the fact that whenever her rating went down, it’s what she would’ve needed to get something good (if that makes sense) for example the car one... she could’ve gotten an okay car but then all those people in the airport made her rating so low.
Or like at the airport when she needed the 4.2 and she had it right before her encounter with her brother, the 4.8 lady, and the taxi driver
I also didn't get if the flight was cancelled they had to provide her a seat on the next flight without any conditions (4.2).
Lol that true, started with the house, then airport, then the car
Rest of the world: "Omg this rating system would be a nightmare if it became real"
China: "Social credit system"
America: fico credit score
Right, this shit is actually real.
Keyboard warrior what do you know about the system
@@geyan5664 dawg wtf are you saying
@@GabuscusBrother China's social credit system actually has a lot in common with US credit scores.
There is one more detail...at the very end the cutaway between these two in adjacent jail cells. They are screaming and their mouths are wide open but at the very very end you can see a crack of a smile as they are screaming and joy in their eyes. They are totally in the visceral moment of joy with each other.
coming back to eating disorders, i think it has a lot more to do with the episode than we think. they feel like an addiction, similarly to how the rating system felt like an addiction to lacey. they’re also both numbers game. i think that when lacey ‘recovered’ from her ed, she just became addicted to something quite similar: the rating system.
The first episode I ever saw from Black Mirror and it's forever my favorite because it's so accurate to some parts of our lives today. And maybe a glimpse into our future....or not, who knows at this point.
Vivian China is doomed. Freedom of speech is illegalize
Vivian Exactly!!
This was one of the scariest episodes because of how real it is
I gave this video a *like* and
immediately felt like an idiot. :/
lol I liked you comment haha
Wait
oh-
Hahaha
unless??
😂😂😂😂
This episode is spot on, can’t tell you how many times I’ve commented something and whoever got offended what I said replied to me “you only got 300 followers” it’s a sad world we live on, especially the low level individuals which are most, unfortunately.
If I was her at the airport I just would have asked some of the people behind me to give me a good rating (being friendly and maybe offering a good rating in exchange) to raise the score just a little bit
Sociopath
Líncol Sáenz no
Yeah but that's the point of the episode. People wouldn't do that. He talked about how Chester was desperate to get a good rating and how Lacie was also desperate at some points, but no one helped them because they didn't have empathy for the lower scored people.
Aya Amirdash people behave differently if they are asked though. You see someone clearly in the rush - do you let them in the line in front of you? Probably not. However, if they come and ask nicely, you probably do.
Anna Jaszczolt Come to LA and you’ll see the reality in interacting with these yuppies. Most likely you’ll hear “why should I let you through when I’ve been standing here longer?” Or some some crap
"If you compare yourself to others, you will never be content." - well said!
Where does he say that?
Fact
The scene that got me was when Lacie was practicing being happy in the mirror. Her mirror was practice before putting on that act for the "black mirror" (her phone).
I keep watching this video and I haven’t taken the time to thank you for putting this all together and breaking it down. Such a fantastic episode
Corona Virus be like: "Just watched that Nosedive episode, think i'm gonna make a pandemic to stop that shit from becoming a reality"
This video will change your mind about that ua-cam.com/video/gMTZu6_TjU8/v-deo.html
i think it went wrong then. lol because the pandemic is causing that type of reality slowly but surely
@@reneepeters5051 private video, hmm
@@topnug7626 oh noo. They removed it. Ugh, this society.
The rating system never made sense to me. Evey vote seems to have huge impact on people's score, but at the same time they're giving each other ratings every 5 seconds. Sure, leaving the exact rules ambiguous is a good move because it would be too complex to figure out how to make this system actually work. Does everyone have one vote per person per day? Per hour? Otherwise why wouldn't everyone just spam 5* ratings to each other?
AKKuura I think it shows how quickly we judge people on first impressions. I do think the rating system was complicated but if you don’t think that much it makes sense
I'd bet that if you gave every one five stars, other people might gang up on you with one stars, therefore losing your influence.
The rating system doesn't actually make sense if you put any real thought into it, and is simply used allegorically in the show.
If the benefits to having a high rating were half as ridiculously over the top as they are in this episode, people would immediately form and join large groups who all 5 star each other as often as possible. In order to lower someone's rating below a 5, there would need to be a coordinated attack by another group targeting that individual, or they would have to say or do something publicly on their social media that offends a massive number of people. The result would be that the average person would have a nearly indestructible 5 star rating that could only be altered by a negative campaign launched by a group larger than the sum of the groups that they belong to. Only famous, polarizing figures (controversial celebrities, political leaders) would have ratings lower than 5, because they would be the only ones to receive enough negative ratings to influence their overall score.
TL;DR: individual interactions like pissing off an uber driver or holding the door for a stranger would not influence your score at all, because everyone would join large rating groups to offset the significance of these interactions and ensure high ratings.
There would probably be some kind of "fatigue system" not allowing for groups that upvote eachother all the time to raise their scores easily (but it does impact you if people you know suddenly gives you a different score, like her brother, or what happened to the guy at the office). So generally the ratings that strangers give to you are more impactful and important (a good reason to focus on physical appearance, false smiles and giving praise).
Also, there's the rings system, so if you have an average score, you won't get near to 5 if you're upvoted by other average users, you'll need votes from high 4s at some point to surpass the cap.
The top rated people are the exception, were they are pretty safe as long as they receive high votes by other upper 4s and 5s, their followers, and their workers. And negative votes from average/low rated people won't affect them as much (so they have some protection from raids).
I thought the exact opposite: Why are people giving high rankings instead of average/lower ones to make themselves feel better?
The red thermos is the red pill, omg how did I not fucking see that! This show is amazing
I know, right?! Love the small details
What does the red pill symbolize?
@@andreafreja7472 freedom, knowledge and the harsh truth of reality
Bryce Edward Brown and what does the blue pill symbolise?
@@Pixie-2077 Blissful ignorance, security and living in an illusion
I would love to see this as a whole series
Same!
Yes indeed
This is why I’ve always failed at social media. Lol. I quit Facebook. It was worth it.
Pink Magic Ali it really is a LinkedIn for more than just your professional life. Fuck that.
I'm active on Facebook, but my activity isn't centered on trying to get 'likes'. I mostly just post things that are on my mind. A mini-essay on an issue that I've been mulling over, or a one-off observation or some one-liner joke I thought of, or share a video that I find personally interesting, but the things I find interesting don't usually have mass appeal. It's usually going to be a video essay or an article I liked, not a cat video or makeup tutorial. I don't talk about anything extremely personal, I don't share my relationship status or name my employers, I mostly resist the temptation to use it as a venting tool, I don't post my location, tag or poke people, I don't post selfies, inspirational messages or pictures of what I'm eating or things I bought, and only occasionally share memes if it's something I really like. I don't friend co-workers or former classmates or casual acquaintances unless there has been an actual relationship. Consequently, my posts rarely get more than 10 likes, tops. One person on some comment thread actually dismissed the relevance of my opinion because I have no followers, and that was weird and pathetic to me. I'm not trying to attract "followers", what do I need followers for? I'm not fucking Jim Jones.
I use fb to post pictures and videos of my daughter for my family that doesn’t get to see her very often.
i go to facebook because it is my source of memes haha
I literally open the Facebook app like twice a month unless I'm using marketplace because I want to sell some stuff.
I don't post very often, but when I do I try to make the post funny and worth seeing or I just try to inform people that I'm still alive and well aha
I also suck at responding to people on there because just opening the app or messenger gives me anxiety.
"If you compare yourself to others, you'll never be content because you'll always think someone has more than or something you don't have." - Standing Ovation for this one, Bryce, because this is so true. When I started my blog I would look at other blogs that had large subscribers and instead of that encouraging me to get to that status, it discouraged me. I've learned that when others are going left, I'm going to go right (not political wise), and when others are going right, I'll left. I'm learning to create my status and goals, meet them and then shoot for news one.
Utlimately your blog is your own interest, your own self talk therapy, an open diary for yourself.
If someone else benefits from it or likes it, great. If it earns profit, awesome !
But hey, YOU BE YOU.
That's what life is all about.
Enjoy your free will ! :-)
Isnt nosedive the name of colin’s game from bandersnatch?
yeah but it’s spelt as nohzdyve
Easter eggggg
i love that fact :D i liked bandersnatch pretty much
Yeah just spelled differently
Yeah that was an Easter egg about this episode, not the other way around
So she's a Barbie girl
In a Barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic?
I think she actually look like a barbie
Cringe