The Big 4 Shonen | Fake Fans #4
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2024
- Our longest episode yet of the Fake Fans Podcast features Peter & Scarra reviewing the Spring 2024 Anicharts, sharing their recent manga reads (our last episode was filmed a while ago!), and covering the manhwa sphere.
⏰ Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
0:07 - Watching Go! Go! Loser Ranger!
0:48 - Anichart Spring 2024
2:00 - KONOSUBA
2:57 - Mushoku Tensei
5:18 - Peter's Recent Manga Reads
6:53 - Frieren
9:32 - Dungeon Meshi
10:24 - Black Clover Is Peak?
14:44 - Kingdom
16:34 - Full Metal Alchemist
17:29 - Mashle
20:04 - My Crush's Crush
20:58 - Kaiju No. 8 Manga
24:26 - Kaiju No. 8 SPOILERS
26:10 - Homunculus
26:47 - SSS Class Suicide Hunter
27:20 - Blue Lock
29:48 - Haikyu!!
32:07 - Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint
32:54 - Double Click
33:53 - Superhuman Era
35:48 - What Is Manhwa?
36:47 - Back to Anichart Spring 2024
37:00 - Demon Slayer
38:48 - Jujutsu Kaisen
40:15 - That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime vs Overlord
43:58 - My Hero Academia
47:30 - Kaiju No. 8 Anime
49:22 - Spice and Wolf
50:56 - Wind Breaker
51:43 - The Misfit of Demon King Academy
53:04 - The Irregular At Magic Highschool
53:40 - I Was Reincarnated as the 7th Prince so I Can Take My Time Perfecting My Magical Ability
54:50 - Diving Into Korean Manhwa
55:26 - Manhwa Art Styles
56:28 - Back to SSS Class Suicide Hunter
1:00:02 - Eleceed
1:01:36 - Scarra's Top 5 Manhwa
1:07:55 - Scarra's Current Manhwa
1:08:23 - Double Click
1:09:19 - Father, Unrivaled
1:09:39 - Return Of The Mount Hua Sect
1:10:30 - Thoughts On Murim Manhwa
1:11:56 - Her Summon
1:13:00 - Manhwa Is Doing Well
1:13:44 - Villaness Genre
1:16:38 - Japanese vs Korean Art Style
1:17:58 - Celine Loves Villaness Manhwa
1:18:59 - Centuria
1:20:31 - Akira Toriyama's Passing
1:25:51 - Outro
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Scarra was just yappin about Haikyuu
I'm so happy to know peener is into romance and villainess genre. I feel like it has to be a hidden guilty pleasure of mine because people just don't discuss it as casually as isekai or Shonen and such.
He also loves any fan service or things with little girls which is a little weird play saying the only anime he's watches konosuba
Just what I needed for my second monitor at work. Side note agree 100% for ORV. Goryeo's First Sword was epic but I feel like I lost some of the vibes the author intended by not being Korean.
i watch alot of podcast and this is probably one of my new faves
Saying it's always the same sects is sort of how western fantasy is always about elves, dwarf, orc it has those sort of "predetermined" lore that basically set the genre
This is true....elf are beautiful with long life, dwarf are short blacksmith etc. Its always the same, but god forbid if tang clan makes poison.
That’s kinda why I fell in love with Martial Peak, there’s not many generic Sect names and it’s got 3700+ chapters of actual good combat and world building. Top 3 picks for manhwa
I'm not trying to sell you on Haikyu I just want to defend it a bit.
I've read and watched Haikyu, it has some flashbacks yes, but not to the degree that you've heard about and they are mainly in the first season. It's also mainly from the main characters, and are included to show you what drives the characters and in Kageyama's case his trauma. The animation isn't bad either, it was mainly an artstyle change that I don't really like either but, however that doesn't make it less enjoyable to watch. It's just a bit jaring. Haikyu is one of those manga/anime that get better the more you read/watch. It's also one of the few sports manga/anime that has every character on the team improving, not just the main characters.
If I was going to have a problem with the series it would be that Hinata doesn't become a good volleyball player until season 4 of the anime (around volume 24-25 of the manga). He starts improving in season 3 (around volume 10), but he earns his place on the court in season 4. That's not bad when you consider it's 45 volumes with 407 chapters, but it's the only problem I personally have.
just binged the first 3 ep and y’all drop another one 😍😋 perfect timing
The Blue Lock discussion WOKE me UP WTF 😅
No wonder it's so popular in Japan for BOTH genders 😮
i cant agree with the haikyuu take... there are a lot less flashbacks compared to sportsanimes like major, captain tsubasa or eyeshield. + the last arc is so hype.
As an anime watcher the only thing I can agree with is I preferred the original animation style. When they do goofy faces in the new style it just don't hit the same haha
gonna listen to this while I decompress from an interview later this afternoon... perfect timing!
Woo perfect timing for listening at work, I like just finished the other 3 episodes too
Great episode! I love that Peter is so into genres that are generally aimed towards women, and I totally agree that they're usually written better just cause they avoid a lot of the bad stuff that comes with men writing it.
If you're looking for suggestions I highly recommend, though they're not romance and do follow younger people, both Witch Hat Atelier and Magus of the Library for their amazing world building and art. Two of my all time favourites.
I also really like The Case Study of Vanitas and Majo to Yajuu as well.
As for manhwa I think My Life as an Internet Novel and Regressor Instruction Manual are both good recommends if you haven't tried them. There's also The World After the Fall for a more tropy pick-up.
I think most of the other suggestions I would make you've already read or wouldn't enjoy (Dandadan, tBAtE, unOrdinary among others).
The discourse around Mushoku Tensei is interesting and something I feel is conflicting. I find the world really interesting and the story pretty good, but it does carry with it a really unlikable main character that has a big, glaring issue. It's such a bummer cause it puts such an ick on an otherwise good story and also makes it hard to recommend to other people. Same story with Made In Abyss which I love.
I personally really enjoy rudeus as a character, he actually puts to test the idea of a character not being good but not being bad and forces you to look at him in a more complex way (atleast for me)
That's what I get out of the series, I think the focus on his past life makes it all the more interesting and wouldn't wish for this series to be without it
Loving this podcast so far! You guys have got me obsessed with 20th Century Boys I'm 120+ chapters in after like 3 days. Loving the takes as I am also a Fake Fan in the same way
The Breaker has 3 series now
The original 'The Breaker',
'The Breaker: New Waves", and now 'The Breaker: Eternal Force' which is still in serialisation
I was wondering where it went.
Ok, I take back half my compliment. Y'all sometimes talking just to hear yourself talk. I have been watching Black Clover, been loving it, and Peter remarked that he really liked it, but added that "it got good after the boring elf arc." Well I was mostly through the elf arc, and loving that, so I looked forward to what came next. BRUH. The entire series is 170 episodes. The elf arc ends at about episode 125, so according to Peter the only good part must be the last 45 episodes. Except the next 20+ episodes ends up being almost solely FILLER episodes. I am now at episode 155 (of only 170) and it is still a training arc at best. I never say opinions are wrong, but brotha that is as objectively wrong as any opinion could ever be.
Love this podcast because I'm a big webnovel reader so it's great to hear about some of the things I've been reading but not from an anime perspective. Also scarra with the big recommendations that feel fresh after reading xianxia for the 10th time.
Slime was one of the first webnovels it's honestly kinda hard to reread but it was fresh at the time. The end was great, and the fact that it has an end is rare by itself, even it it's at this point it's a pretty standard way to end that style of super long webnovel.
It's kinda wild to watch this because I'm a layer deeper than manga/manhwa for some things. Like I can't imagine reading ORV in manhwa because it references so many webnovel tropes and really plays into that as a webnovel itself.
The greatest estate developer is a peak manhwa. It's literally god-tier entertainment, and definitely one of my top 10 manhwas out there.
I love how this podcast caters perfectly to my tastes in manga
Never forget The Cape. Without it, we wouldn't have 6 seasons and a movie.
Loving the podcast fellas
Superhuman Era is actually really really good! It’s still ongoing and has a lot of relevant stuff still left (isn’t running on fumes and making up plot points for no reason like some other manhwa)
Peerless dad is so goated, first time ive heard someone else talk about it.
I love the manhwa discussion hope you guys discuss it more
"jungle juice" is pretty good too with nice art and a different take on powers
Love this shit, glad to see new episode
I hecking love the villainess genre, definitely my guilty pleasure with a few incredible titles
a classmate in school passed me a volume of dragon ball and said "hey you know about goku?". The rest was history, I started drawing, and manga collecting, watching anime, all that jazz. Toriyama's name was ingrained in my generation of kids. GG. get toast on the show so we can talk about one piece next. Also read sakamoto days.
34:45 Big respect to Scarra for the Worm shoutout, It's so good that it's kinda ruined other superhero media for me cause I'll just compare it to Worm and nothing else is even close to hitting as good.
I'm also almost through book 1 of wandering inn and enjoying it a lot so that's good taste.
What do yall think of the beginning after the end?
The first Manhwa I ever read was the first volume of Blade of Heaven. It was pretty damn old too by the time I read it, which was close to 15 years ago!
They really hyper focused on the pervy side of mushoku tensei but ignoring Rudy's development as a character through the series
so consistent upload schedule. unlike some others i know of.
My sign to finish reading Worm and The Wandering Inn. I'm not sure if scarra has read Mother of Learning, but that's peak as well.
i think solo farming in the tower and homeless are my fav manwha currently, big mouthed flower has been pretty good too.
What was the anime scarra mentioned before eyeshield 21 at 29:41 ?? i tried to find it but cant get the name right
hikaru no go
"This is why we're called fake fans..." still gonna be said in episode 400
have you guys given legend of the northern blade , barbarian quest, lazy lord masters the sword a try?
where is the patron link
Dude, I love Blue Lock so much that it's my first set of physical mangas. I have Books 1-11 right now!
One of my favorite podcasts
Spice and Wolf is cute. In human form, she talks about being comfortable naked but he insits that she wears clothes to fit in. I haven't kept my eye on the reboot since I want to finish the og.
I’m enjoying this podcast
58:09 I think it's generally okay if they use luck and convenience to start off a manga/manhwa, because it's like how are they going to even kick start it without this, and if you think about it in a way where you view his situation as one in a million, then you can read it as the rare story of an individual of a unique world. Also to be fair they don't really use the "regression" trope or info from the future later into the series and I think it's more of a "tower climber" than a "regression".
Yooo, I have been reading Double Click as well, that is sick
what do you use to read manga?
Peter saying he likes BC makes me feel validated for liking it since my friend introduces me to it after finishing fairy tail.
Sometimes you just want to have that power of friendship, plot armour so thick it shakes the earth with each chapter it takes, super determination protag story.
I LOVE DOUBLE CLICK YES SCARRA. I read a ton of manhwa. Superhuman Era and ORV are really good. I would try Leveling with the Gods. It is one of my favorites. Reaper of the Drifting Moon is really good. Mercenary Enrollment is also peak. I also really enjoy Arcane Sniper.
"She's a Thousand Years Old, btw osifer" 🤣🤣🤣
Centuria! It's like Vinland Saga meets Berserk. I hope the story goes on strong for a long time.
the manga of misfit of the demon king academy (Maou gakuen no futekigosha) stopped because the artist died
maybe im built different or some bullshit but i have no trouble remembering the numerous characters in My Hero
I don't even watch anime / read manga but still love listening to them
Have u guys try manager kim?
I don't think Peter's summary of FFF-class suicide hunter does not do the story justice. There are so many themes of envy, human connection, and empathy. Pleaaaase if you haven't, get to the Murim arc, it is so beautiful. Scarra talked about it.
Got into ORV coz of Garnt's/Gigguk's video as well. That manhwa is lit 🔥. Scarra, you might like How to Live as the Enemy Prince, The Perks of Being an S-Class Heroine (give it a few chap, I promise!), Purple Hyacinth (Bungou Stray Dogs-esque). For Peter, I think you for like Lady Wants to Rest, Seduce the Villain's Father, I'm No Heroine!. For heavier story try The Fantasie of a Stepmother, The Golden Forest, How to Win My Husband Over.
My top 5 cultivation manhwa recommendations.
1. The Heavenly Demon can’t live a normal life
2. Martial Peak
3. Logging 10000 years into the future
4. Rooftop Sword Master
5. Volcanic Age
Drop some suggestions for more good reads
Can somebody help me find a manhwa?
From what I remember, mc finds out he has terrible karma. A business reaches out to him and eventually he dives into a virtual/not so virtual world where he takes on the life of someone and has to find closure or a different ending or something. By completing the jobs his bad karma can go down.
It's been a while since I've read it, but could it possibly be:
Dimensional Mercenary
@@stitch603 HOLY! I think this is it!! thank you
@@urahakat 😃
My Kings are back
i did not expect a double click mention, i kinda dropped that manhwa but it was good
Also, to add on scarra's manhwa analaysis, theres one more main category, which is MMO, stuff like overgeared/strongest troll/sleeping ranker
As a current reader of Blue Lock I think the flashbacks from Haikyuu is one of its strong points. While Blue Lock is hype I feel more conmected to the characters in Haikyuu and I'm sort of missing that in Blue Lock. I really hope they actually do that formula in the next arc.
among the manwha im reading i love double click as scarra said others are:
the boxer
maybe meant to be(for peter)
weak hero
teenage mercenary
nanomachine
descended from divinity
hanlim gym
freaking romance(again for peter)
unholy blood
Had no idea Scarra read Worm, knew he had good taste. I do actually think they’ll enjoy steins;gate if they actually finish it, in retrospect I do remember the first half being massively slow but it makes sense to me since it’s based off a VN and Fate anime are very similar, you get like 12 episodes of buildup before it all comes together
I Hope Peter continues SSS Class Suicide Hunter, It's surprised me with the depth it went into with the romance in the arc scarra talked about.
Don't think he was talking about the romance arc bro. It was the murim arc.
I read a lot of isekai/regression Manhwa but the only famous one I can't seem to read continuously is SSS suicide hunter I don't know why maybe because it's story is just slow for me because of it's Save Point mechanic
Im so happy that Spice and Wolf got a reboot. The og anime is still one of my top 5 and the light novels are goated. My unsolicited take is i will vouch for anyone who wants to watch Spice and Wolf its a slow burn but so worth it.
What do yall think about one punch man? Its the only time (aside from Hunter x Hunter) that I started reading manga to see what happens after an anime stops!
Hi Scarra and Peter, here's some recommendations:
I'm Really Not The Demon God's Lackey
Arte
Mercenary Enrollment
The Strongest Florist
I'm Actually a Cultivation Bigshot
Tale of a Scribe Who Retires to the Countryside
Reformation of the Deadbeat Noble
The Legendary Moonlight Sculptor
Kaichou wa Maid-Sama
Based on what you said, I feel like you could enjoy some of those.
Ive read all of these except the first one LOL
@@scarra Give it a go.
It's in the "clearly trash, but I'm reading hundreds of chapters of it anyways" category.
Based on what you said in the four podcasts, I think you and I have very similar tastes hahaha!
@@scarra Give Dungeon Odyssey it's different than the others manhwa adaptation that are mostly 1 to 1 from their source material, also the art is pretty unique
@@yuwubai345I like this one kinda unique with the Rts-ish feel to it
If you guys haven’t read Oyasumi Punpun yet you guys should read it. I want to see your review
Woohoo! Another one.
as a big manga manhwa reader i LOVE this podcast so much
i’ve already rewatched the last episodes
imo "Legend of the Northern Blade" and "Reaper of the Drifting Moon" - one of the better ones Murim manhwas (and I think both of them based on the web novels of one author). Also "Chronicles Of The Martial God’s Return" is pretty fun read with cutest kid to protect.
So scarra have you ever read regression manhwa but for office job? Like The Man, Chaebol youngest son, Be the Actor, 100 year old top chef?
Keep it up!
I recommend reading The worlds greatest estate developer! One of my favorite's!
Can you guys talk about the landscape of vtuber now versus back when they started? More specifically, is there chance that another huge vtuber will ever come out?
I don't watch anime or read manga, but I just love listening to them talk lol
Scarra is the first one I've seen talking about Her Summon and he did an atrocious job selling the premise lol. Go read it, it's the best Manhwa i've read
mushoku tensei anime is great, especially season one, the studio was literally made for the series, and full new languages were formed, shits insane.
Yeah, so disappointed with season 2's production and direction. Show went from great to mediocre. I read both the WN & LN, the issue isn't the story. I even watched a couple episodes of the idolmaster show that the season 1 director got poached for, and it was great. It could have been an all time classic.
@@saintyoo praying to god that the staff who came back for s2 part 2 can work some magic but season 1 really was something special
Fun fact: They continued The Breaker in webtoon form. Not sure if it's worth the read. I need to give it a try.
Going to recommend Legend of the Northern Blade, Is a Manhwa and set in murim, so it has some of those tropes. But the Art is great and I enjoyed the story.
Honestly, call yourselves Fake Fans if ya will, but the anime opinions y'all have given align with my own far more than the Trash Taste boys tend to. If ya watched Garnt vote on the Crunchyroll awards, it is rather easy to see that he prefers the less popular shows. It feels ironic to say, but I find it refreshing to have an anime podcast willing to admit that some of the popular anime is popular for a reason, and not just hating on it purely because it reached mainstream success.
Speaking of which, I am on episode 100 of the Black Clover anime I started recently, and I agree, there are very few episodes I have not enjoyed watching, and I am excited to hear that it only gets better from the Elves arc I am currently enjoying.
Reaper of the Drifting Moon is my one Murim Manhwa am reading, the art is good and the story is diffrent than other Murim Manhaw.
If you look for interesting manhwa i would say The beginning after the end(interesting power system, isekai but done good in my opinion) and nano machine(diferent look on Murim with system)
If they haven’t I pray y’all check out Dungeon Odyssey that manwha is peak dungeon exploring
Day 2 of asking fake fans if they read Blame!, its so unique.
31:30 Scarra casually spoiling what's happening after 150 Chapters of Blue Lock
I so wish someone talked about the Fable even if you hate it lol
The Couple Breaker
I think they will have a Game themed topic in the future
The problem with a lot of manhwa is that they're adaptations of pre-existing novels, and that kind of messes up the pacing of the whole thing, cause a lot of the details and nuances of the original work are kind of missed. I'd suggest y'all to read the novel versions of any of the manhwa that you're on the fence about, cause they're probably going to be better.
Yeah, read ORV's novel a few chapters after the Manhwa started, an it was so much better than SL. The Japan bashing is still annoying though even if there's historical reasons to it, not that it's unique to ORV
You need to watch the konosuba movie before watching season 3, not that recommended but if you wanna understand what's going on for like the 1st quarter of season 3 ep 1 then watch the movie
Haikyu never fell off - I can see if you stopped in the middle of a training arc but it never stopped getting more and more awesome. And the anime does a great job. Also one of the few mangas where I actually loved the ending.
"Names change overtime"
-Scarra 2024
Overlord is a great series prefer it to most of the isekais out there, have you guys heard of the Toaru series it’s my favorite next to the monogatari series also it focuses on all of the characters and the world building is great hope you guys talk about it sometime
Hot take: Dragonball GT is the best of any of the series because of it's AMAZING ending. Alot of the series was so so BUT in the end it paid homage to Goku and respected his legacy in a true send off to not just him but all the characters.
the Viral Hit anime?
Thoughts on unOrdinary
Have yall read the reincarnated assassin is a genius swordsman?
Pick Me up, infinite gacha, my daughter is the final boss, or star embracing swordmaster. These are all newer relatively speaking
To be honest, that's a pretty mediocre manhwa. This manhwa is so generic and predictable. And the art isn't even that good.
no idea about anime but supporting this nevertheless
Double click - The one where the MC was the reason why the first game fall off. He was the one creating the new metas and is dominating the cheaters arena with a potato pc on the old game One Sword.