You mean Ilyrian helmets .Greeks are proud for stealing history of other countrie.What a lame county is Greece😂.Greek of nowdays has nothing in common with hellens ,the majority of them are vanished .
This tragic happened because of the shitty Spartan economy. Then Spartans are too concentrated on army forces and ignored economy, their money also was so ugly, rough and stupidly big. Spartan country Somewhat like USSR.
From a tactical point of view it was going from an epic looking bell on your head to what's more like a modern military helmet (I still find the corinthian cooler though
Fascinating. What a development. So one gave way to the other. Any chance you could look into early medieval helmets? I sure would like to know about the development of helmets from the Roman Empire to the Frankish.
Thank you for your contribution to human history. Hopefully you are forever remembered in cyber history same as how we rememeber Herodotus, Xenophon, Sima Qian, and Ibn Khaldun are remembered
Thought we were going to have a face reveal for a second! There's something very phallic about the latter Corinthian helmets. Apologies for lowering the tone.
@Epimetheus I've to say - as someone who is working on a master's thesis about atypical helmets in Greek Art of the 6th and 5th centuries BC - that your video is very well done. I've to say that i'm quite amazed to see such good work on UA-cam about Ancient Greek weapons. I just wanted to add that the Corinthian helmet (as other helmet type) was used all over the Greek world (city states in mainland Greece, Ionian Greeks and their colonies) aswell by other culture like the Etruscans, not only the Spartans. And I would like to know how you can say that the warrior depicted on the red-figure attic vase at 4:10 is a spartan. As we know that there is very little clues that tell us that vase depictions are to be understood as real life representation.
@@tosk2098 Most likely yes, greek helmets were worn by other cultures in contact with Greeks all over the Mediterranean. As far as in the 1960s the archeologist A. Snodgrass claimed that the helmet was from the Peloponnese. And among the circa 350 helmets found in Olympia, 41 are from the illyrian type. But for some reasons the helmet is very rarely depicted on attic vases.
It's the late Byzantium (East Roman Empire) which destroyed hellenism, beginning with the Emperor Constantine. However, the greatest persecutions, torture and executions occurred with the Emperor Theodosius, who also ensured that all temples were desecrated, destroyed and that anyone with the title of Hellene was held accountable if they did not convert to Christianity. The Greeks today are not Christians because they wanted to be, but because they did not want to be. With the banning and closing of academies, high schools and philosophical teachings, knowledge disappeared and dogmatic faith came to the foreground. Histories and school material were deliberately elaborated to hide the Dark Ages, to hide truths, including changes in time and physical facts. In Greece, the pressure was strongest to mentally enslave free Greeks forever. The only thing that exists today are Greeks who live according to the Roman system, both education and religion, of course all in Greek so that it makes sense. Of course, the knowledge is not completely lost, but the Greeks have become too comfortable to bother with it, they accept the life they are used to, so foreigners will rule Greece until the Greeks have learned who they are and what power they have. Our ethnic "religion" was banned by Theodosius about 1700 years ago and is now official again. Either you are a Hellene or a Christian, both are not possible, whether you like it or not is uninteresting.
@@ΈΛΛΗΝ2020 I totally disagree. Eastern Roman Empire didn't destroy hellenic culture. In fact this Empire is the medieval greek state. Greek language, culture and people were dominant. Christianity was a new religion for Greeks. They just accepted Jesus Christ as their God. I didn't said anywhere I don't know about my history. I read history since I was child. I just wrote that I didn't know so much about ancient Greek helmets. Both ancient Greece and Byzantium are our history. And we should be proud of it.
@@greeceballthegreat1350 The schools and universities covers the real history, if you research you will find the right answers. The byzantium destroyed hellenism, the temples, the sculptures... You can find the christian cross on temples or statues, akropolis was transformed to church. We ethnic hellenes know very well what was happened, you realy should research my friend! Only the Graikoi adopted the christianity, that's why these greeks called themselves Ρωμαίοι. After spitting in two parts of the roman empire, the roman greeks settled down in anatolia and created the byzantium, the eagle symbol on the flag is the symbol of the roman empire! Emperor Constantine adopted christianity and threatened everyone to death if they wouldn't accept christianity. He also killed his wife and his son. The ancient libraries were burned down like the library in alexandria. There was NO reason for hellenes to adopt christianity, because they followed a philosophical way, the ΑΡΕΤΉ and they did incredible things with their open minds. Would you change your religion today if someone would explain to you how real his religion is ? Of course not.... We can explain everything, believe me! Search for YSEE and watch some interviews with Rassias.... There are facts you never knew that! It's the wrong education system in Ellas... There are reasons for that!ecer-org.eu/transition-to-christianity-or-crime-against-hellenism/
Hi, I'm from Germany, and for 2 main reasons you don't come across the spartan helmet as a logo for schools, universities or sportsclubs so much. First most institutions here where founded prior to the Renaissance and secondly academics here aren't comfortable with glorifying spartan society, history or ethos because of the nazis obsession for it and how they used it as part of their justification to "purify" the Arian race from the sick, disabled, gay or "inferior races. I greatly enjoy your videos keep up the great work.
@marios gianopoulos Δεν μπορούν καν να παίξουν τραγούδια της Πρωσίας η οποια δεν είχε καμία σχέση με το κίνημα των ναζί.Ειναι τραγική η κατάσταση αλλά είναι και λίγο λογικό αν το σκεφτείς (πρέπει να διατηρήσουν καλή εικόνα κ.τ.λ).
@marios gianopoulos I went to school in 90s Germany. Antiquity was a topic in ONE year, when we were 10/11 years old. The rest of history classes concentrated on Germany from the 30 years war to the 19th century (ww2 and after where a subject of social studies instead). Tldr: education about ancient history was lousy, without ideological reasons
I'm making armor for a drag show haha this video was very useful, thank you for your work! The illustrations are super clear and helpful, I can see which styles would be best for what I'm looking for. Keep up the good work man 🤘
The babiylonians and assyrians used similar helmets with all the bronze age countrys for examble see the mycinian as for the israilite when they reber against the romans the used what they can found greek ones or roman
I attended San Gorgonio High School in San Bernardino, CA and our mascot is a Spartan. I am on the committee for our 50th reunion next year and am looking for decorations, which is what led me to this site. Thank you for the info...it explains a lot.
I don't think the "Spartan helmet" is a common logo elsewhere, certainly not for sports teams. A reason may be because American football is only played in the USA and no other sport uses helmets, at least not as prominently nor elaboratedly. American football is an extremely armored sport without equivalent anywhere else (closest would be rugby but helmets are seldom used and when they are they are mere leather helmets). Another reason may be is that university and sports don't mix that intensely elsewhere: universities are a place for study and research, sports team may exist (or not) but when they exist they are entertainment for students, not a big deal for the university itself, similarly there are no fraternities/sororities nor anything like that, as at least in Europe, people live outside the university campus, which is often close to their family home and accessible by public transport. You go to the university for classes and exams, maybe the occasional extra-curricular activity at most, the rest of the life happens outside (this is also true for lower education levels). As for the name "Spartan", there is one such football (soccer) team named Spartak from Moscow, but I believe the name actually comes from the name Spartacus, the slave revolt leader, adopted by some German communists around 1918. The main feeling "Spartan" may transmit in Europe is probably that of "living an austere life without commodities" rather than "bravest of warriors". There's in general much less cultural enthusiasm for warriors and war anyhow than in the USA: I can barely think of any sort of revered military hero, maybe because we have fought so much against each other and suffered so much from wars that these are seen for what they really are: catastrophes rather than "arenas of honor", as depicted in some movies and such. Maybe the closest thing to warrior heroes we have are little people that fight against the powerful ones, like Robin Hood, Wilhelm Tell or the already mentioned Spartacus. In many cases their names are not even known, like the Basques who defeated Charlemagne at Roncevaux, but they are celebrated every August 15th nevertheless, because we feel they are like us: nameless and weak but still able of great feats thanks to smarts and dare. We're more Athenian or even Arcadian than Spartan, really.
Albanians were Illiryans, in Albania and Kosova (ancient Dardania) you can find people wearing plisi or qeleshe made of wool which reminds the last Illyrian Helmet! Anyways, great job with the video!
I live in central Illinois and we don't have any Spartans but the town about 12 miles south of here has a team called the Trojans and their logo is a classical Corinthian helmet
@@albaniansuperiorshqipetari8055 stop trying to make albanian nationalism happen. You are a mix of everything that came through your land, just like every other country in Europe.
@@matthiasdarrington3271 I would not call a mix of everything if my DNA from Anssestory.co.uk gave me the results saying I'm 97% Albanian . and 3% French. and my whife's DNA is 100% Albanian. you cannot get more pure that that. Sooo dont be jealous
My High school's Rugby team was the Claremont Spartans, and yes, they used the Corinthian Helmet on their logo. Saanich, British Columbia. I played hockey and I preferred to keep my vision clear. I like the Attic style helmet for its unimpeded vision, improving situational awareness.
Just browse "Sea Peoples" in image search: most didn't even use helmets at all but fancy hair-dressing of some sort, others wore them top-only with horns, the Shardana, quite possibly ancient Sardinians. After writing the above, I wonder if they brought the very concept of helmet to the Eastern Mediterranean. But that doesn't make sense, does it? Especially because some other groups did use some sort of chest armor, they were not exactly unarmored... Didn't Epimetheus make a video on the Sea Peoples? Someone did, I watched it discussing the body armor of whoever that ethnicity were.
2:12 Ok seriously what is the evidence for Greeks marching right up to each other and pushing shield-to-shield because it makes no sense and there's no reason to use a spear if you're going to do that. If it's just depictions on pottery and the like, I'd strongly suggest that it's to save space. The same method would have us believe that medieval archers shot at each other from about 6 feet apart. P.S. I'm not saying this never happened but I strongly doubt that it's how they _intended_ to fight (like that nonsense about pike blocks having rugby scrums).
My understanding is that the phalanx, like the Roman maniple depended on spears to be the major threat to an enemy formation. The spears would be held by each person in the formation which resulted in any given measurement across the front of the phalanx would have many spearpoints. Only when the formation was broken or overwhelmed by enemy would the swords be used.
@@ownpetard8379 That makes sense to me (though Roman maniples didn't use spears. They introduced the manipular system at the same time they abandoned spears in favour of the pilum and gladius.)
First let the Germans pay the debt of the WW2 and then we will be able to pay any debt we have, even though the gonverment is the one who is and unfortunately always was shitty with it's people. So please shut da fuck up and understand the value of OUR inventions of OUR history and then come talk again
Currently attending Aurora University so I was glad to see the AU Spartans made it in the opening? Even if I don't really pay attention to our sports teams...
@@dejvidcera2748 εσυ φιλε μου εχεις τοση σχεση με τους ιλλυριους οση εχουν οι σκοπιανοι με την Μακεδονια.... Βρες καπου αλλου να στηριξεις την ανυπαρκτη ιστορια σου... Η γλωσσα σου ,η γραφη σου,η γενεαλογία σου ,η ιστορια σου,ο.τιδηποτε δεν εχει σχεση με τους αρχαιους ιλλυριους. Κατσαπλιαδες ειστε που ψαχνουν να μαγκωθπυν καπου σαν τους σκοπιανους
I was wondering could it still be done as a “ rediscovered craft”? Everyone has that ! How was it done moment! Seeing it done is more satisfying then hearing about it !
The Pilos was also considered assosaieted with Beotian some times, which kinda makes sense if you think about it because if you look at what we call Beotian, it's just a Pilos with back and side extensions for extra protection. There is more things you could cover about the Thracian and Phrygian helmet but good video overall.
What I want to know is, how common was the fan/brush on the top? Researching this has proved to be surprisingly difficult; for a symbol so often portrayed, it seems the mythos of where and why this style came into fashion remains a mystery. You quickly find many of the easy assumptions: for intimidation, etc etc, but first, how often was it used on actual soldiers, and second, how far back does it stretch? If I were to guess I would say it could be placed well into the minoan period and probably proliferated asian minor in the mediterranean, but finding actual archeological evidence with a topic so pop culture flavored in search engine queries seems damn right impossible. May have to go to an actual library for info like that...
4:23 im no expert but im pretty sure the reason why there hamlets where so popular in Sparta at the time was because they were cheep and its the the Perioikoi fighters could afford who where the majority i believe
well judging by the totally historic helmet you have in your hand the ancient greeks were much smaller than I had expected. I never thought the images on the amphorae were life sized haha.
Hello. I made a helmet in fiberglass. Next I made a mould of it. Next I'll do casts in clay. Or in paraphine wax. This can become the model for a lost wax cast in metal. I will also explore electro plating. ua-cam.com/video/qFrK-2UHNHQ/v-deo.html
Hey very fun and interesting videos. What are your thoughts on the language of the illyrians and what modern language would be the closest to them? And maybe the connection of albanians to these tribes ?
If you are writing about "Albanian propaganda," it is important to approach the topic with evidence and logical reasoning. While Wikipedia can be a starting point, it is advisable to consult literature and historians from various perspectives, including Greek, Italian, Austrian, and British, to gain a comprehensive understanding. As for your argument about the helmets, the Pileus being the most recent helmet of the Illyrians, which is symbolically represented by the traditional Albanian hat known as Plis, it is important to provide supporting evidence such as archaeological findings or scholarly references to validate this claim. Regarding the language, stating that the modern Greek language is technical while the language of the Albanians in the mountains closely resembles ancient Illyrian is an interesting assertion. However, it would be helpful to provide linguistic evidence or comparative analysis to support your claim. Furthermore, translating ancient Illyrian names into Albanian can be intriguing, but it would be beneficial to provide linguistic analysis or historical references to demonstrate the linguistic continuity between the two languages. In conclusion, to present a convincing argument, it is important to support your claims with reliable sources, scholarly research, and well-founded evidence.
I like to point out that the mascot of a town near mine is supposed to be a Spartan but wears a Gallic style Roman helmet with Crest. None of then ever have any idea what I'm talking about XD
My favorite? Middle period (500 BCE) Corinthian helmets, preferably of Etruscan manufacture. I have two reproductions, one hand-patinated brass, uncrested (Deepeeka "Early Spartan"): a cherished display piece; one crested, bronze-finished iron (Windlass): a rough-and-ready field piece. The Deepeka is the only wearable reproduction I've come across that TRULY captures the graceful, mysterious, evocative, iconic, and [yes] somewhat creepy look of the original museum pieces I have seen. All these qualities are enhanced by the browning, then verdigris treatments I painstakingly applied to it.
Now an army will say we will make this and can make with a machine 500000 pieces.. Back then it was a person making them and different persons....which gives it a different look every time
It made me mad that spartans in total war rome 2 dont have those classic greek helmets :D Those are honestly the most badass looking helmets of human history, i remember my pops made me such helmet from cardboard, even with that red tail thing on the top and i loved every second while playing soldier in it 😀
@julius sorry bro illyrians has nothing to do with greks they had seperate language seperate closthing,architecture military structure religion etc etc And bthw 75% of illyrian language ist understandable in albanian
@@dardanmaliqi2095 So what? Do you have to be greek to be interesting enough to be studied. I know nothing of them either, except for the very little TWR2 showed me, and would be interested to learn more.
i own 3 Greek helmets! I have a 300 helmet, a late Corinthian, and an early Corinthian. If you want to see them go to my channel and i have some vids on them! Nice Video and i like Early Corinthian the most.
@ Only 80% same dna , continueous history , undisurbed selfidentification through the ages and same language. Now go back to your illyriopelasgothracianetruskovenetodardanotrojan halusinations and leave nations with history wich you are not even able to speak about in peace. Your hands cannot dare to think to reach that high. Illiteral , brainwashed and rude. Bad combination.
Ancient Greek helmets are awesome.
UNLEASHING POTENTIAL - PSYCHOLOGY VIDEOS I am not gonna subscribe
Hahahahahaha the fact that he is farming for views isn't that bad. What is bad is his pseudoscienctific content. That gets on my nerves.
UNLEASHING POTENTIAL - PSYCHOLOGY VIDEOS It seems like the tip of penis though
You mean Ilyrian helmets .Greeks are proud for stealing history of other countrie.What a lame county is Greece😂.Greek of nowdays has nothing in common with hellens ,the majority of them are vanished .
From epic helmet to bucket. Nice job Sparta.
haha...I am sure it was more useful for drinking out of
This tragic happened because of the shitty Spartan economy. Then Spartans are too concentrated on army forces and ignored economy, their money also was so ugly, rough and stupidly big. Spartan country Somewhat like USSR.
From a tactical point of view it was going from an epic looking bell on your head to what's more like a modern military helmet (I still find the corinthian cooler though
Spartan helmet === this Japanese helmet ua-cam.com/video/KqI4Tw8E8KE/v-deo.html the same ugly.
Modern corinthian helmet=== Nazi helmet
You see, economy was dropping
I didn't realize helmets were so interesting.
It would be a change of pace if there was a sports, school, or college name of Athenians instead of always the Spartans.
True
Macedonians would be pretty cool too. You don’t see the Spartans conquering the known world now do you?
Ahem, Thebes
@@Nihilus49 ahahahahahahah
Athenians are gay
The Boeotian and Thracian Helmets are my favorite greek-related helmets
THracians were never greek they are direct ancestors of modern day bulgarians!!!! .....
@@bobifetski Bulgarians is a Slavic people, the Thracian ethnicity died out long before the first Bulgarian arrived there in the first place
all lies... you shall learn the true history of the world soon thieving greeks migrants
@Τυχαίος 'Ελληνας most bulgarians have thracian dna
Slavotatars. For sure zero connection with the Thracians.
Fascinating. What a development. So one gave way to the other.
Any chance you could look into early medieval helmets? I sure would like to know about the development of helmets from the Roman Empire to the Frankish.
I always had the feeling tha Epimetheus was a talking hand.
The force is strong with you
Excellent video ! Never knew how fascinating helmets could be until now.
Thank you for your contribution to human history. Hopefully you are forever remembered in cyber history same as how we rememeber Herodotus, Xenophon, Sima Qian, and Ibn Khaldun are remembered
Thought we were going to have a face reveal for a second! There's something very phallic about the latter Corinthian helmets. Apologies for lowering the tone.
The Atlantean
no his wife is Vietnamese
The Atlantean
stefan Milo's wife is Vietnamese
Considering various parts of ancient Greek culture that may have been entirely intentional
Stefan Milo the Greeks and other cultures considered penises good luck, so in all likelihood it’s 100% intentional.
Please make Chinese Helmets Explained in 5 minutes from the Early Shang Bronze Helmets to the current US influenced M1 Steel and ECH Kevlar Helmets.
no
The chalcidian is personally my favorite for its more open viewing and open hearing while keeping great protection
There are some epic variants of this helmet, realy good ones
My school, McHenry High School, were called the warriors. We also had Greek/ Spartan inspiration for our mascot, Leonidas :))
That is cool that it was Leonidas and not a generic greek warrior
@Epimetheus I've to say - as someone who is working on a master's thesis about atypical helmets in Greek Art of the 6th and 5th centuries BC - that your video is very well done. I've to say that i'm quite amazed to see such good work on UA-cam about Ancient Greek weapons. I just wanted to add that the Corinthian helmet (as other helmet type) was used all over the Greek world (city states in mainland Greece, Ionian Greeks and their colonies) aswell by other culture like the Etruscans, not only the Spartans.
And I would like to know how you can say that the warrior depicted on the red-figure attic vase at 4:10 is a spartan. As we know that there is very little clues that tell us that vase depictions are to be understood as real life representation.
So profi you think also that the Illyrian Helmet is greek?
@@tosk2098 Most likely yes, greek helmets were worn by other cultures in contact with Greeks all over the Mediterranean. As far as in the 1960s the archeologist A. Snodgrass claimed that the helmet was from the Peloponnese. And among the circa 350 helmets found in Olympia, 41 are from the illyrian type. But for some reasons the helmet is very rarely depicted on attic vases.
What a perfect time to post this video, now that AC Odyssey is out. Awesome video bro!
When a non Greek knows more about Greek things than you...😓
It's the late Byzantium (East Roman Empire) which destroyed hellenism, beginning with the Emperor Constantine. However, the greatest persecutions, torture and executions occurred with the Emperor Theodosius, who also ensured that all temples were desecrated, destroyed and that anyone with the title of Hellene was held accountable if they did not convert to Christianity. The Greeks today are not Christians because they wanted to be, but because they did not want to be. With the banning and closing of academies, high schools and philosophical teachings, knowledge disappeared and dogmatic faith came to the foreground. Histories and school material were deliberately elaborated to hide the Dark Ages, to hide truths, including changes in time and physical facts. In Greece, the pressure was strongest to mentally enslave free Greeks forever. The only thing that exists today are Greeks who live according to the Roman system, both education and religion, of course all in Greek so that it makes sense. Of course, the knowledge is not completely lost, but the Greeks have become too comfortable to bother with it, they accept the life they are used to, so foreigners will rule Greece until the Greeks have learned who they are and what power they have. Our ethnic "religion" was banned by Theodosius about 1700 years ago and is now official again. Either you are a Hellene or a Christian, both are not possible, whether you like it or not is uninteresting.
@@ΈΛΛΗΝ2020 I totally disagree. Eastern Roman Empire didn't destroy hellenic culture. In fact this Empire is the medieval greek state. Greek language, culture and people were dominant. Christianity was a new religion for Greeks. They just accepted Jesus Christ as their God. I didn't said anywhere I don't know about my history. I read history since I was child. I just wrote that I didn't know so much about ancient Greek helmets. Both ancient Greece and Byzantium are our history. And we should be proud of it.
@@greeceballthegreat1350 The schools and universities covers the real history, if you research you will find the right answers. The byzantium destroyed hellenism, the temples, the sculptures... You can find the christian cross on temples or statues, akropolis was transformed to church. We ethnic hellenes know very well what was happened, you realy should research my friend! Only the Graikoi adopted the christianity, that's why these greeks called themselves Ρωμαίοι. After spitting in two parts of the roman empire, the roman greeks settled down in anatolia and created the byzantium, the eagle symbol on the flag is the symbol of the roman empire! Emperor Constantine adopted christianity and threatened everyone to death if they wouldn't accept christianity. He also killed his wife and his son. The ancient libraries were burned down like the library in alexandria. There was NO reason for hellenes to adopt christianity, because they followed a philosophical way, the ΑΡΕΤΉ and they did incredible things with their open minds. Would you change your religion today if someone would explain to you how real his religion is ? Of course not.... We can explain everything, believe me! Search for YSEE and watch some interviews with Rassias.... There are facts you never knew that! It's the wrong education system in Ellas... There are reasons for that!ecer-org.eu/transition-to-christianity-or-crime-against-hellenism/
@@greeceballthegreat1350 neoskosmos.com/en/138245/letter-to-the-editor-all-was-not-right-in-the-byzantium/
@@greeceballthegreat1350 www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/books/2017/dec/28/the-darkening-age-the-christian-destruction-of-the-classical-world-by-catherine-nixey
love how they made the later styles look more and more phallic, just goes to show through out the ages humans never really change lmao
its pretty hard for me to believe they weren't intentionally made to look like dicks...
@@VoorTrekker88 considering how much the Greeks loved phallic imagery I don't think it's a stretch to say that it was completely intentional.
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My college team nickname was "Chancellor". We had an old guy with glasses and a robe as mascot.
Hi, I'm from Germany, and for 2 main reasons you don't come across the spartan helmet as a logo for schools, universities or sportsclubs so much. First most institutions here where founded prior to the Renaissance and secondly academics here aren't comfortable with glorifying spartan society, history or ethos because of the nazis obsession for it and how they used it as part of their justification to "purify" the Arian race from the sick, disabled, gay or "inferior races.
I greatly enjoy your videos keep up the great work.
Interesting-Thanks for the great comment!
Nazi bad! >: ^|
@marios gianopoulos So you consider being good at obtaining wealth bad?
@marios gianopoulos Δεν μπορούν καν να παίξουν τραγούδια της Πρωσίας η οποια δεν είχε καμία σχέση με το κίνημα των ναζί.Ειναι τραγική η κατάσταση αλλά είναι και λίγο λογικό αν το σκεφτείς (πρέπει να διατηρήσουν καλή εικόνα κ.τ.λ).
@marios gianopoulos I went to school in 90s Germany. Antiquity was a topic in ONE year, when we were 10/11 years old. The rest of history classes concentrated on Germany from the 30 years war to the 19th century (ww2 and after where a subject of social studies instead).
Tldr: education about ancient history was lousy, without ideological reasons
Would love to see eastern or Iberian helmets next.
And maybe mesoamerican
University of North Carolina at Greensboro, Spartans. Although the half of our gear has Minerva and we have several Minerva statues on campus.
I'm making armor for a drag show haha this video was very useful, thank you for your work! The illustrations are super clear and helpful, I can see which styles would be best for what I'm looking for. Keep up the good work man 🤘
Dude, amazing video
Great video, very interesting. An incredible amount of information you got cooked down into 5 minutes.
THIS IS AWESOME! I wonder what ancient middle eastern civilizations like the Israelites, Babylonian, Assyrians, & etc had as helmets...
Very ugly overall.
Similar to the pylos helmet with cheekplates and neck covers.
@@arturoroldan4839 I'd always assumed they wore pointed pot-shaped helmets...COOL
The babiylonians and assyrians used similar helmets with all the bronze age countrys for examble see the mycinian as for the israilite when they reber against the romans the used what they can found greek ones or roman
The 500 b.c corinthian helmet was the best and the most iconic from my personal view! Great video as always 👍🙏🏻
I attended San Gorgonio High School in San Bernardino, CA and our mascot is a Spartan. I am on the committee for our 50th reunion next year and am looking for decorations, which is what led me to this site. Thank you for the info...it explains a lot.
I don't think the "Spartan helmet" is a common logo elsewhere, certainly not for sports teams. A reason may be because American football is only played in the USA and no other sport uses helmets, at least not as prominently nor elaboratedly. American football is an extremely armored sport without equivalent anywhere else (closest would be rugby but helmets are seldom used and when they are they are mere leather helmets).
Another reason may be is that university and sports don't mix that intensely elsewhere: universities are a place for study and research, sports team may exist (or not) but when they exist they are entertainment for students, not a big deal for the university itself, similarly there are no fraternities/sororities nor anything like that, as at least in Europe, people live outside the university campus, which is often close to their family home and accessible by public transport. You go to the university for classes and exams, maybe the occasional extra-curricular activity at most, the rest of the life happens outside (this is also true for lower education levels).
As for the name "Spartan", there is one such football (soccer) team named Spartak from Moscow, but I believe the name actually comes from the name Spartacus, the slave revolt leader, adopted by some German communists around 1918. The main feeling "Spartan" may transmit in Europe is probably that of "living an austere life without commodities" rather than "bravest of warriors". There's in general much less cultural enthusiasm for warriors and war anyhow than in the USA: I can barely think of any sort of revered military hero, maybe because we have fought so much against each other and suffered so much from wars that these are seen for what they really are: catastrophes rather than "arenas of honor", as depicted in some movies and such. Maybe the closest thing to warrior heroes we have are little people that fight against the powerful ones, like Robin Hood, Wilhelm Tell or the already mentioned Spartacus. In many cases their names are not even known, like the Basques who defeated Charlemagne at Roncevaux, but they are celebrated every August 15th nevertheless, because we feel they are like us: nameless and weak but still able of great feats thanks to smarts and dare.
We're more Athenian or even Arcadian than Spartan, really.
Which is why the Athenian owl is much more common in logos of universities and schools all over Europe.... Exception: www.tu-darmstadt.de
in the netherlands we have a soccer team called sparta.
BaseBall uses a helmet
The catcher only and it's rather a mask than a helmet, right?
@Brick Media: really? Never heard of it, it's not very famous AFAIK.
Why 5 minutes only? Make it 20! I'm not in a hurry.
Its that way cause of the short attention span of the youth.
@@augustineo.6990 Sure it is
And this is why this is why he is a inamoratall
It’s crazy how widespread the helmet design is. I’m at West Point right now, and athena’s helmet is on our crest, which is a Corinthian helmet.
Really nice, funny and I like how you keep it short
very good analysis, thank you
Thanks!
Great video and I loved it , but just one thing . Why haven't you mentioned and shown anything on the MACEDON helmets, and helmets of Alexander ?
Im going to like every single video you upload without seeing it first until you get the attention you deserve.
Albanians were Illiryans, in Albania and Kosova (ancient Dardania) you can find people wearing plisi or qeleshe made of wool which reminds the last Illyrian Helmet! Anyways, great job with the video!
No they weren't, the illyrians were of Hellenic Descent and Origin
End of story
@@Lion-rs2qy yes they were
yapping
the ending and intro are hilarious
I live in central Illinois and we don't have any Spartans but the town about 12 miles south of here has a team called the Trojans and their logo is a classical Corinthian helmet
Tojan are Albanians. Tro jan means the from this land in Albanian = Yllirians helmets are the 1st way b4 Greece even existed.
@@albaniansuperiorshqipetari8055 stop trying to make albanian nationalism happen. You are a mix of everything that came through your land, just like every other country in Europe.
@@matthiasdarrington3271 I would not call a mix of everything if my DNA from Anssestory.co.uk gave me the results saying I'm 97% Albanian . and 3% French. and my whife's DNA is 100% Albanian. you cannot get more pure that that. Sooo dont be jealous
@@albaniansuperiorshqipetari8055 except trojan is an english word and thats not what they were called
My High school's Rugby team was the Claremont Spartans, and yes, they used the Corinthian Helmet on their logo. Saanich, British Columbia. I played hockey and I preferred to keep my vision clear. I like the Attic style helmet for its unimpeded vision, improving situational awareness.
doing great job.. waiting for war related videos
I’m currently in the southern Alberta institute of technology which has a similar helmet
Very informative!
A great review. My thanks for the good info!
Great video mate, really well done.
Reckon you could do a video on the evolution of Western European helmets at some point?
Why is your channel so badass?
Attic Helmet looks pretty cool. Although I wonder what kind of armor other near eastern armies used from bronze age onwards.
Just browse "Sea Peoples" in image search: most didn't even use helmets at all but fancy hair-dressing of some sort, others wore them top-only with horns, the Shardana, quite possibly ancient Sardinians.
After writing the above, I wonder if they brought the very concept of helmet to the Eastern Mediterranean. But that doesn't make sense, does it? Especially because some other groups did use some sort of chest armor, they were not exactly unarmored...
Didn't Epimetheus make a video on the Sea Peoples? Someone did, I watched it discussing the body armor of whoever that ethnicity were.
Thank you for your time and video. Learned exactly what I wanted🤘🏻
Please Aegean, Mycenean and Minoan helmets next
during the peloponessian war sparta still used corinthian helmets but also the new helmet called pylos
Hey have you heard about the crested gecko helmet? I was curious about the story and trace of this helmet which is also a greece helmet.
2:12 Ok seriously what is the evidence for Greeks marching right up to each other and pushing shield-to-shield because it makes no sense and there's no reason to use a spear if you're going to do that. If it's just depictions on pottery and the like, I'd strongly suggest that it's to save space. The same method would have us believe that medieval archers shot at each other from about 6 feet apart.
P.S. I'm not saying this never happened but I strongly doubt that it's how they _intended_ to fight (like that nonsense about pike blocks having rugby scrums).
My understanding is that the phalanx, like the Roman maniple depended on spears to be the major threat to an enemy formation. The spears would be held by each person in the formation which resulted in any given measurement across the front of the phalanx would have many spearpoints. Only when the formation was broken or overwhelmed by enemy would the swords be used.
@@ownpetard8379 That makes sense to me (though Roman maniples didn't use spears. They introduced the manipular system at the same time they abandoned spears in favour of the pilum and gladius.)
When you are Hellenen and you cringe reading the comments
When you are greek and someone comes up with pay debt comments.
Pay debt
Pay debt
what do you even expect from them?
First let the Germans pay the debt of the WW2 and then we will be able to pay any debt we have, even though the gonverment is the one who is and unfortunately always was shitty with it's people. So please shut da fuck up and understand the value of OUR inventions of OUR history and then come talk again
When the NAZI'S, TURKS & EVERYONE ELSE THAT INVADED GREECE pay their debt we'll pay ...
SIMPLE AS THAT ....
Thank you for sharing your extensive knowledge! Great presentation. God bless
Currently attending Aurora University so I was glad to see the AU Spartans made it in the opening? Even if I don't really pay attention to our sports teams...
I am from Greece and you did a pretty good job.
Wraia photo/
Atlantic University Puerto Rico uses a Spartan helmet on its logo
The good ol kettle hat, Greek style.
St Petersburg College Titans, had a man in a Corinthian helmet as their mascot.
No one ever seems to mention that one of the main reasons that helmets were needed was because of a very effective weapon.....the sling.
Hi from Hellas!
Hi!
I love the Pilos helmet design somehow.
The illyrian helmets are so badass 1:10-1:30
Sioux Known as Albanian
@@dejvidcera2748 εσυ φιλε μου εχεις τοση σχεση με τους ιλλυριους οση εχουν οι σκοπιανοι με την Μακεδονια.... Βρες καπου αλλου να στηριξεις την ανυπαρκτη ιστορια σου... Η γλωσσα σου ,η γραφη σου,η γενεαλογία σου ,η ιστορια σου,ο.τιδηποτε δεν εχει σχεση με τους αρχαιους ιλλυριους. Κατσαπλιαδες ειστε που ψαχνουν να μαγκωθπυν καπου σαν τους σκοπιανους
@@tsilitheo11 Γάμησε τα, Θόδωρε Έμαθε και τα κράνη, ο κλεφτοκοτάς...
Because they Albanian helmets 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
ua-cam.com/video/0lhMX6E6pNA/v-deo.html albanian helmet? Yeah right sure
I deployed with the USMC unit MWCS-28, called the Spartans which used the helmet as a logo.
i greatly admire your artwork. what program do u use?
Excellent video. Love the art. Also, I went to a university with a Corinthian helmet logo
the Thracian/Phrygian Helm is the best looking don't dare @ me
Just because it has a beard protector I get you fam. 🧔🏻
any video on Persian helmets?
It would be interesting for sure
I was wondering could it still be done as a “ rediscovered craft”? Everyone has that ! How was it done moment! Seeing it done is more satisfying then hearing about it !
The Pilos was also considered assosaieted with Beotian some times, which kinda makes sense if you think about it because if you look at what we call Beotian, it's just a Pilos with back and side extensions for extra protection. There is more things you could cover about the Thracian and Phrygian helmet but good video overall.
Where on earth did you get that cute little helmet?
Hey Epimethius - you make really good videos. And I'm picky. Just FYI. You should make more.
I like the chalcidian and the attic helmets
What I want to know is, how common was the fan/brush on the top? Researching this has proved to be surprisingly difficult; for a symbol so often portrayed, it seems the mythos of where and why this style came into fashion remains a mystery. You quickly find many of the easy assumptions: for intimidation, etc etc, but first, how often was it used on actual soldiers, and second, how far back does it stretch? If I were to guess I would say it could be placed well into the minoan period and probably proliferated asian minor in the mediterranean, but finding actual archeological evidence with a topic so pop culture flavored in search engine queries seems damn right impossible. May have to go to an actual library for info like that...
Thanks. I did not know that.
4:23 im no expert but im pretty sure the reason why there hamlets where so popular in Sparta at the time was because they were cheep and its the the Perioikoi fighters could afford who where the majority i believe
I went to a high school with a spartan helmet logo
I now want to reenact as a Spartan warrior during the Peloponnesian War they look badass
well judging by the totally historic helmet you have in your hand the ancient greeks were much smaller than I had expected. I never thought the images on the amphorae were life sized haha.
Jeez i thought writing cuneiform with a reed these days was rough. to them it must have been like painting with a 4x4.
0:08 plz tell me what item merchendaise name and where he bought it plz tell me plz plz plz plz plz plz luvvia
Has anyone ever in present day made a Corinthian out of a single piece of bronze ?
you can make everything these days, but would it be practical to make?
Can you locate someone who can do this ?
Manning Imperial but they charge too much for what they worth. Ulbercht makes a decent heavy helmet
I have seen one guy make it somewhere in Alabama U.S years ago..looked really nice but he didnt want to sell it to me
Hello. I made a helmet in fiberglass. Next I made a mould of it. Next I'll do casts in clay. Or in paraphine wax. This can become the model for a lost wax cast in metal. I will also explore electro plating.
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great vids as always. do you do your own art? very good
I do :)
Hey very fun and interesting videos.
What are your thoughts on the language of the illyrians and what modern language would be the closest to them?
And maybe the connection of albanians to these tribes ?
Illyrian language hasn't been discovered so we can't really know, there are many Albanian propaganda but we really don't know
If you are writing about "Albanian propaganda," it is important to approach the topic with evidence and logical reasoning. While Wikipedia can be a starting point, it is advisable to consult literature and historians from various perspectives, including Greek, Italian, Austrian, and British, to gain a comprehensive understanding.
As for your argument about the helmets, the Pileus being the most recent helmet of the Illyrians, which is symbolically represented by the traditional Albanian hat known as Plis, it is important to provide supporting evidence such as archaeological findings or scholarly references to validate this claim.
Regarding the language, stating that the modern Greek language is technical while the language of the Albanians in the mountains closely resembles ancient Illyrian is an interesting assertion. However, it would be helpful to provide linguistic evidence or comparative analysis to support your claim.
Furthermore, translating ancient Illyrian names into Albanian can be intriguing, but it would be beneficial to provide linguistic analysis or historical references to demonstrate the linguistic continuity between the two languages.
In conclusion, to present a convincing argument, it is important to support your claims with reliable sources, scholarly research, and well-founded evidence.
@@nikosx6905hahah what propaganda you have messapic tablets lemnos tablets which can be translatet only with albanian language
I like to point out that the mascot of a town near mine is supposed to be a Spartan but wears a Gallic style Roman helmet with Crest. None of then ever have any idea what I'm talking about XD
but man the Thracian helmet beatiful
Mercurio Bua albanian
@@dritanbakiaj6810 Albanians aren't ancient
My favorite? Middle period (500 BCE) Corinthian helmets, preferably of Etruscan manufacture.
I have two reproductions, one hand-patinated brass, uncrested (Deepeeka "Early Spartan"): a cherished display piece; one crested, bronze-finished iron (Windlass): a rough-and-ready field piece. The Deepeka is the only wearable reproduction I've come across that TRULY captures the graceful, mysterious, evocative, iconic, and [yes] somewhat creepy look of the original museum pieces I have seen. All these qualities are enhanced by the browning, then verdigris treatments I painstakingly applied to it.
Awesome again
Everybody loves a Greek helmet, whilst in Rhodes I experienced several , didn't realise so many shapes and different styles ,
Now an army will say we will make this and can make with a machine 500000 pieces..
Back then it was a person making them and different persons....which gives it a different look every time
It made me mad that spartans in total war rome 2 dont have those classic greek helmets :D Those are honestly the most badass looking helmets of human history, i remember my pops made me such helmet from cardboard, even with that red tail thing on the top and i loved every second while playing soldier in it 😀
Awsomed helmet! also I like the little helmet guy at the end
The attic helmet is my favorite it look cool
XD
Could you do a video explaining Spartan shields?
Can you do an video about the ilyrians.😀
@julius sorry bro illyrians has nothing to do with greks they had seperate language seperate closthing,architecture military structure religion etc etc
And bthw 75% of illyrian language ist understandable in albanian
@@dardanmaliqi2095 So what? Do you have to be greek to be interesting enough to be studied. I know nothing of them either, except for the very little TWR2 showed me, and would be interested to learn more.
@@dardanmaliqi2095 illyrian language lol where ?
Literally 2500 hundred years ago, people were perfecting melee helmets.... holy shit.
i own 3 Greek helmets! I have a 300 helmet, a late Corinthian, and an early Corinthian. If you want to see them go to my channel and i have some vids on them! Nice Video and i like Early Corinthian the most.
give them back thief
nevermind I thought you was a ''collector'' as thieves are called nowdays
lol true
today day greeks have just nothing to do with ancient hellenic people
@
Only 80% same dna , continueous history , undisurbed selfidentification through the ages and same language.
Now go back to your illyriopelasgothracianetruskovenetodardanotrojan halusinations and leave nations with history wich you are not even able to speak about in peace.
Your hands cannot dare to think to reach that high.
Illiteral , brainwashed and rude.
Bad combination.
What did they use for glue?
I prefer these helmets than the modern helmets that have been leaving the original design since the mid 20th century
I would love to see a more in-depth vid or a series of vids on Hellenic equipment.
Thracian helmet; projection for your noggin and your beard.
lol, always thought they looked silly for that reason
A man of culture as well
Haha! I like the helmet at the end! Where did u get it?
Loved the ending 😂